Rangers Banter Archive April 04 2012

 

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04 Apr 2012 23:38:42
What I dont understand is, where were all these bidders when SDM tried to sell the club before? Why now are they suddenly interested when the club is in a worse ftate financially?

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They didn't want the debt then and they won't want it now! Liquidation is inevitable!

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04 Apr 2012 23:30:57
how rich is aeg wat wealth do they have backers etc

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There worth billions and billions but if there plan to liquidation a don't want them anywhere near if they want to keep us away from liquidation and invest a lot of money in to rangers i will welcome them with open arms

campbell

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04 Apr 2012 22:30:35
Club 9 Sports statement on RFC

http://www.club9sports.com/uploads/Statement_from_CLUB_9_SPORTS.pdf

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04 Apr 2012 22:08:41
just a thought with bringing in 50000 plus fans every week and the chance to compete in europe (once again after administration) every year surely with the way clubs are getting bought up these days i.e paris saint germain etc rangers must be up there with a good viable interest in competing on the European stage as buyers want... the way forward for us must be youth development with a mix of experienced players already we are showing good signs of youth development with the lads coming through ..all our club needs is financial stability the rest will fall into place i know we have this tax case and ticketus but even that we could come to some sort of agreement and get this club the most successful domestic team on the planet back on the road we can not let this club die fight for what you love people
greig the drum

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Barca,Madrid,Milan,Man utd,Liverpool etc NOT as successful as a cheating Scottish mob.....HILARIOUS!

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See celtic were not included in your list

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I think what the poster was trying to say was the most successful club in domestic competition Ie within their own domestic league. If that is what he meant then he was stating a FACT.

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04 Apr 2012 22:03:59
RITE BEARS AW A NO IZ THIT AH WAANT MA POUND BAK THAEM BSTDS DUFF duffur huv goan aw quiet oan ma £ 1 bid bid ah telt thum ah waant CHANGE!
wee pat

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Ed we need a translation please. {Ed001's Note - I really have absolutely no idea what it says, but my head hurts after trying to figure it out if that helps?}

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I think he's saying "Some bears have written to Duff asking to change a £1 note to help with their lovemaking."

Must be something to do with Edinburgh's pandas!

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04 Apr 2012 21:23:18
Once again the wounded bears are drooling& salivatating over takeovers,have just read some off your posts......great news backers behind us millions to spend be 10in a row watp..!..we be playing in champions league next season.......the dawn of a new era.....american billionaires,germans with wealth of the radar!!....nfl games at ibrox....pmsl at least last one close,will be the govan dodgers!up to our knees in ebts..est2012...stevo..p.s. keep up the comedy gold!!!

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Same as last year when wee whyte appeared on the scene...world domination.

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I'm with you stevo. Comedy gold lmao a few bids go in and they think that's them saved. Kick back and just keep watching, the best laugh has yet to come....all is not as it seems.

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Comedy gold, is the celtic defence the last couple of weeks and if we do go out of business at least i'll know that the last time we played we played your lot, we pumped you's silly !!

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Having read the posts from around 1700 the only person salivating and spouting absolute p**h is you Stevo. For me the only comedy gold on here is you and the continual rubbish you post. I think the expression once bitten.....applies to most Rangers supporters and most wont be getting carried away until there is new owners in place, there plan is made public and Craig Whyte is gone. So do us all a favour, click open a new tab and go to your own site PB

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Comedy gold pumped by a patched up team in admin.....put to the sword by a team with some fight and bottle something you lot will never have......

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PB you've read 1700 posts you sad little man ... btw Stevo's above post states exactly the p*** thats been spouted on here tonight, well done Stevo best post of the night......Stevie

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U wer superb against the 9 men we had left on the park tht still managed 2 goals against you

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Pmsl,hit a nerve on some wounded bears me thinks.....once bitten???more like chewed up& spat out..put to the sword?aye very good V 9men win buy 1 goal,lmao..look at the league table,did yous get 18points for that game????up to youre knees in ebts rangers tax dodgers 2012....

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Comedy gold p6 haha dnt think anybody counts there posts but a think he means 1700 as in 5 oclock buddy haaaa, back to your colouring book

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Luv how idiots come on here n say sh##e like "best laught of all still to come" but then leave no name....if you are so certain in your point then why not back it up by leaving ur name so u can either come back n say "told ye so" or so we can add you to the list of bullsh*****s from the dark side.
J1985

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Ha ha @9 can't believe your that gullable, then you go onto explain my joke.... *unbelievable........Stevie

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Stevie there all on the meths m8...more comedy on its way today....heavy backers with millions to throw at us....multi millionaires onwards and upwards,pmsl,feckin superman..pb gies a laugh...dodo fc 2012,or govan taxdodgers2012..stevo

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04 Apr 2012 21:08:49
Duff n phelps stated publicly today that all 4 bids are structured differently but all are very positive and neither of them involve liquidation!

Daryl king has no clue!

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Aw ah no is
1.poundland
2 poundstrechur
3 a pounds a pound
4 the 50 pence shoap
5 an amerikin co called 50 cents
6 an ausie co called skippy.................
so its hee haw fae me................

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04 Apr 2012 20:19:35
Heard the German bid is from David Mcallister, googled him and he is a politician, so the expenses claim could be heavy.

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Its not him, BBC website.

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04 Apr 2012 20:11:23
with whyte the only show in town the last time the club was up for sale one question remains,with the exception of paul murray why did none of the new bidders make a bid last year?they could have bought rangers for a pound back then....how much will they pay for the club now?

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Nothing their bids will be well short

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04 Apr 2012 19:55:44
lets hear what and who the bids are from before we all get carried away with ourselfs ,people start making things up on hear and yeh i do know its a rumour sight but lets wait and hear what will be said and who from ,firstly we need Rangers history kept alive no matter what, and yes who ever gets our club they nrrd to know what the club means to so many people world wide so lets all hope its great news to come out.

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Agreed, we need to keep the history, no matter what...

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04 Apr 2012 19:54:23
Craig whyte is apparently looking for upwards of 30 mil for control of the club. How can he still have the right to decide on the future of rangers?

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Did snowy the dug tell u that ??


TB

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04 Apr 2012 19:46:54
Not a bad day, just hopefully gets better in the next few weeks/month out of administration a new good trust worthy owner, that will spend a bit of cash, and allow to play in Champions League next season because we will come 2nd

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We wont be allowed to play in champs league next year why wont people get that thru there thick heids

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And still the delusion reigns...

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Plus even if uz were allowed do u honestly think Rangers would get thru 3 qualifying rounds dafty?

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That actually wrong, apparently there is a 14 day grace from the 31st March so we have until the 13th to come out of administration!

J

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04 Apr 2012 19:46:43
No Europe next year.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/302538-rangers-will-not-get-uefa-club-licence-insist-scottish-fa/

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04 Apr 2012 19:24:49
As per the Rangers app Duff and Phelps have confirmed there is 4 offers on the table! Fingers crossed its the dawn of a new era and the club rightfully restored to its full potential

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04 Apr 2012 19:16:48
hoping these are the americans
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04 Apr 2012 19:13:02
D & F spokesman described 4 bids as positive and constructive, positive and constructive = Sh1t.

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04 Apr 2012 19:04:56
Anschutz Entertainment Group

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04 Apr 2012 19:01:27
Anschutz Entertainment Group....ARE THEY GERMAN ?????....jsm {Ed001's Note - American.}

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That's the guy with billions upon billions , is that who a bids off ed ?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - it does look likely, that was who I was told were one of the interested parties right at the start. Despite public denials of interest and bids, it has been very clear they have been keeping an eye on things. I believe (and 002 does too) that it is them who are the US based bid.}

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Interesting... Any idea when we can expect to hear who gets the preferred bidder status ed?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I don't know, it depends how long it takes the admin team to look through them and then make a decision.}

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If they do get control we could be having NFL games at ibrox , big name concerts , don't no if anything could be done at Murray park , I'm sure they have thought of something though.
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I did say in the past about the possibility of using it for MLB games, I think that is the likely possibility.}

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MLB games at Murray park eh ed ? Wonder what sort of attendance they could get that up to ? I would defo go to an MLB game, I've been to the skydome (if it's still called that) in Toronto , special !
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I have no idea, I just know the idea has been floated around the MLB to try games in Europe, like the NFL does. AEG have been involved in the discussions about holding games, I was told that was the reason for Rangers being of interest. Not just could they use Ibrox for NFL games, but they could hold MLB games at Murray Park due to the wide open spaces. I don't know how true it is or how it would work, other than being temporary stands. It sounds feasible on paper, I am sure, if it is true, they would do all kinds of research to find out if it would be possible. It certainly explains why they would be interested in Rangers, having the two facilities up for grabs would be the prime interest.}

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@4, it is now called the rogers centre... this is coming from Canada, i dont see the mlb going anywhere near Scotland for now any ways, for i havnt heard of anything over hear unless the ed has special info, however the nfl are trying to have an impact in europe. mlb are focused right now in Japan(dont know why because it is already big there) and seem to be trying to build the game there for they had its opening season game there. i just cant see mlb haveing anything to do with ibrok because the weather is not rly mlb weather for all the teams go to flordia and sunshine, unless they just see yous as haveing excepitions to make some money {Ed001's Note - they held discussions with the NFL about how they have gone about breaking into the European market. That's where my info comes from. I don't know enough about the sport to dispute it or back the talk, but I was told suitable stadiums to hold games in was a major difficulty. I am not sure what kind of space it needs myself though, I thought in Japan they could fit baseball and football into the same stadium?}

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Anshucz are they no catholics

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04 Apr 2012 19:01:22
I see lord sugar laughing off the bids for us ..Makes me wonder why

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Ah thanx for reminding me the apprentice is on tonight ....jsm

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RFC your fired Ha Ha.

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04 Apr 2012 18:59:08
A wee funny story to lighten your day
bears, did you see a colour blind
painter has painted the Louden Tavern
a lovely shade of Green! But don't
worry barmen are serving Creme De Menthe
and have stocked up on Limeade and
also Mint for the pub lunches and also
all meals come with plenty of Greens
LOL Timalloy

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No need to lighten up the day timbo, just the thought of the smeltic in another title game, all the sad faces at the full time whistle. How many is that this season...so far? Cannae have more bottles that crash, splish splash in yir boots.
Must be the pressure of your first title in 4 years, surely this time, ah mean surely it's only Killie!
Away back to your goldfish bowl.

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That lovely shade of green as you put it, will be encompassed by a beautiful shade of Royal blue and you will never know it was there. Bit like football really.

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04 Apr 2012 18:55:34
In the press today SDM writing off his last Rangers-related debts. Article says he "lost" £100m in write-offs to Rangers.

Is it right to criticise him?

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D murray made more from rangers than he ever put in, how do you think we ended up with 90m debt under his stewardship.

when ever he wanted money he borrowed from the bank and did not spend any of his own money !!

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04 Apr 2012 18:49:06
hello fellow bears , does anyone know anything about the Germany or Singapore bids ? not much being said about them.

.markky!x

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04 Apr 2012 18:37:38
Ed, is there a magic password for getting your post on the site!! FM. {Ed001's Note - yes, but I can't tell you it or everyone would know....}

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You first have to declare your live for Ed001 ! ;) {Ed001's Note - sod that, credit card details are far more important!}

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04 Apr 2012 18:08:07
There are four bids on the table for Rangers.

TBK, Singapore, American & a German bid.

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The germans,knew the queen would rescue us.

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Agree. But I think everyone should note that apart from TBK the other three bidders did not do their business in public. They prefer to get on with their business away from the spotlight and no doubt if the time comes they will emerge. That certainly sounds like business people.
Using the media for press statements etc as a tool can sway the public's opinion for or against you but it keeps you in the public eye.
Neil Lennon is an ace at that and takes every opportunity to plead his team plight, apart from during the 26 game run right enough.
I'll be preparing myself for the onslaught of the tims with stories about the 3 other bids in an attempt to rubbish them off, hitting us with so called facts and figures and finally saying that the people behind the bids will be crooks. They are going to liquidate and if all else fails hit us with the Tax Tribunal bill. All this tick tock mince since Feb. I mean it's Wednesday and we are meant to have been liquidated today!
I suppose it keeps them occupied and away from shop lifting.
Now the bids are in I can look forward to the footie at the weekend. Another title game for the smeltic fans, 1pt away from the title, first title in 4 yrs, surely this time bhoys ah mean it's only Killie!
'I luv the sound of breaking glass' Nick Lowe.

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04 Apr 2012 17:18:49
with ticketus trying to jump in with tbk as new owners,does anyone think while lending whyte the cash to buy rangers ticketus knew exactly what was being planned all along?are whyte,ticketus,david murray and paul murray all in this together?does whytes father have anything to do with ticketus(octopus)?

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I've not heard of any link between Whyte snr and Octopus. Not sure it's relevant anyway, unless the Whytes are ripping off Ticketus as much as they are Rangers.

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04 Apr 2012 17:18:21
ed it is past 5 o'clock deadline is there any other bids been put in yet

campbell {Ed001's Note - I am still trying to find out for sure, but right now it looks like there have been no more. Only the admin know for sure though, someone could easily have bid under the radar.}

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Cheers ed 1 more question if it is only the blue knight that have put a bid in today does that mean nobody else can put a bid in because of the deadline was at 5 o'clock so blue knight will be front runners do do a takeover

campbell {Ed001's Note - it really depends on the bid being acceptable. If it is found to be acceptable, then it will proceed onto the next step and, so long as there are no issues found, will eventually end up with them taking over. If it is unacceptable, then the bidding process would have to begin all over again. Though, they are now claiming 4 bids, so they have a choice, if more than one is acceptable.}

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Dont think so ,any bidder has to be Rangers daft or just plain daft as it is throwing good money after bad

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Aye, and that's why your not a millionaire ya goat!

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Not matter who takes over as long as club is run better than it was and NO liquidation get the club on the level again ... Kenny bluenose

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04 Apr 2012 17:04:29
D&P know liquidation regs inside out now wrt SPL and SFA.

Craig Whyte has protected the footballing assets from liquidators and creditors.

It's Liquidation.

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So on the final final final day..judgement day for the bids,how many are there?also there were pledges nearing the 12million mark,how much did the rfff raise?when does the acctual list of ALL creditors get reveled ED???stevo {Ed001's Note - I am not sure it will ever become public information to be perfectly honest. It doesn't tend to be released into the public domain, though some bits and pieces tend to filter through.}

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04 Apr 2012 16:56:29
where is these 4 or 5 bids its now very near deadline and still only 1 bid in think we are getting string alone hear deadline is 5pm so if no other bids in by this time the deadline should not be extended and club should be sold to blue nights

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04 Apr 2012 16:55:38
Look 10 minutes to go and what's happening is D&P are acting as selling agents for Whyte.
D&P will discuss with winning bidder how much of their bid will go to Whyte for his shares. Whytes target is £10million.

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04 Apr 2012 16:30:42
Ed out of rangers an Celtic , what two players would you take personally for Liverpool if you HAD to choose ? Come on big chap let's hear it straight ?
Lenny Murdoch {Ed001's Note - I am not sure I would take any, outside of kids I have not seen enough of to judge properly. Reina is not playing well, but McGregor comes with off field issues and Forster simply isn't good enough for me. The other main needs are right wing and striker, that only really means Naismith, whose injury record worries me. Hooper simply is far too lazy, Stokes, Healy etc nowhere near good enough. Liverpool have such good youth to come through, that I would not want to buy someone to block their route into the team. I would rather just give them a chance myself, unless the players being bought are really top class players. Though I may just be missing someone when I am thinking through the squads!}

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This can't be so ed ? I thought Liverpool were after half celtics squad with millions upon millions on hand for their great players? pmsl
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - we did look at a few of their players, but no more than taking a look, apparently none were deemed to be of interest. The gaps in our squad just don't match up with the strengths of the players in Scotland to be honest. It helps that Liverpool's current youth crop is exceptionally strong, so many are good enough to play at the top level, I can't remember it ever being this strong in the past. Mind that doesn't mean they will all make it, most of them fail at the final stage of pushing through to the first team.}

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Ed001 Naismith would walk into the Liverpool team when he is fit and Davis is better than any MF at Liverpool. Lafferty is twice the player Carroll is and you bid £9 million for Jelavic last summer. Shagger would bet #1 at any EPL club,he is the best keeper in Britain and one of the best in Europe. {Ed001's Note - yes, Naismith when fit, but he isn't fit. Davis is not good enough, he was very poor in the Prem and he is certainly not fit to lace Lucas's boots. He is on a par with Spearing, who is a back up player at best, so why would I want to take him? Lafferty is not good enough, that is delusional to suggest and we never bid for Jelavic or you would have taken it! Why do people still believe that nonsense??? There was only ever one club in Liverpool interested in him and they eventually signed him and never ever bid anywhere near 9m. McGregor, I agree is a good keeper, but he comes with baggage, so no thank you, I would rather have a player without the baggage.}

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10 years ago the best old firm players would walk into a team like Liverpool. But the standards have moved in opposite directions since then.

Old firm players won't find top Premier teams after their signature. Look at the teams that they've been moving to recently, like Cardiff and Middlesborough. A better player might make an established mid-table Premier club like Fulham or Villa but that's about it. The SPL standard has slipped unfortunately.

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Come on ed , Gregs an baggage ? What is a man no allowed a wee slap an tickle now an again , lol , I would hardly call that baggage mate.
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - there is a lot more than that mate, he needs to remember he is a professional athlete and live like one.}

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04 Apr 2012 16:48:06
Sick of hearing about the poor players
having to sell their big hooses and do
a bit of car sharing. Poor souls. As a
fan who survives on the minimum
wage 52 weeks a year my heart is
bleeding.

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04 Apr 2012 16:23:34
Tips for the Masters now available - follow the link:

www.footballrumoursbets.co.uk/sportsbets.php

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04 Apr 2012 16:18:02
Ed- final bids - any news? {Ed001's Note - nothing yet, but I am not expecting much, most of the possibles seem to be watching and waiting to try and pick it up even cheaper following liquidation.}

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What are you saying now then ed ? That liquidation is looking more of a cert mate?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - no, it is just that the administrators are overplaying things to try and tempt people out of the woodwork.}

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04 Apr 2012 16:08:12
IF THE WORST HAPPENS. IE LIQUIDISATION

You true Bear fans need to step forward and be counted. the fans should start a new co - not your current waste of space fan associations; but a new democratic one. YOU DONT NEED THE SUITS. A club for the people by the people : wasn't that the original idea? Get back your pride and write a new chapter- keep it real and the club can be there for generations to come. man up Bears and truely the best of luck

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04 Apr 2012 15:56:34
Rusty the tim here!!o the famous Glasgow rangers auction today between the hours of 09.00 to 17.00!1hr to go and only 1 bid!c'mon people where are you??I take it rangers aren't as big as you's thought muppets!pm is only getting the backing from ticketus prayin pm gets to take charge for there money for every1 knows it's liquidation and the money won't be that great to split!!ibrox=£5mil Craig whyte park=£2.5mil playing staff combined £23mil o the rangers are dead!!fans get your giro's together get down to ibrox via post office to cash them and buy your club!! Glasgow Celtic champions!!Craig whyte is a tim and rumours are he painted the louden tavern green for he knows the country should be green and White!!hail hail rusty the tim

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Rusty ring sting - bolt back to the default champs page :-)

J

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Rusty.....funny that's the condition of the spl trophy after one season in your lots filthy possession before we get ot back 12/13.
A selik fan slagging rangers fans about giros??c'mon pal i passed a post office on giro day last week n i thought henrick larsson was doing an autograph signing from the post office there was that many selik taps!!
Like the first lad said away back to your default champions page ya roaster.
J1985

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We are currently champions Rusty the dhim wit. Always celebrating b4 you actually win anything, the treble (ha ha) helicopter sundae ( a true jelly and ice cream moment) and the last 3 years. Chortle Chortle. Let's just wait for today's outcome.

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Rusty shot his bolt again! There's a trend emerging!

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04 Apr 2012 15:33:43
Glasgow rangers were around before we were all born and will still be around when we're all dead, I've been goin to ibrox all my adult life and it has giving me great memories! So I would say to every1 don't panic our club will never die!

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The past owners of this once great institution called Rangers F.C. who nursed this club through two world wars and umpteen recessions would be spinning in their graves if they knew what these swindlers had done,,I pray the likes of Struth an Lawrence are lokking down on us to help us in our time of need.GstQ

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Your deluded man

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Comical ally still in denial in post 1...be as extinct as the dodo soon......

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Fortress/AEG joint bid far from dead only question we should be asking is would Messi and Ronaldo be able to play together or should we give em one week on one week off

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Main post who is glasgow rangers ??


Last time i checked it was rangers fc mate

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04 Apr 2012 15:15:33
blue knights are the first to put bid in for rangers

campbell

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I have posted this a few times already, but again let me say the U.S. bidders are very confident of being first choice according to friends in the U.S. The major stumbling block to all however is the disgrace in Monaco.

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04 Apr 2012 15:02:36
Can this shambles of an administration get any worse? I posted soon after they started that i could not understand why they never lost some big earners in the first three days.The much vaunted players wage reduction will now cause more debt in May when the wages have to be paid up to date.Rangers are trapped in a vortex of debt,and now owe their own players over 1m combined,why? There was nothing to play for when administration started so why not let two or three big earners go,save the wages,and start a rebuild with plenty time till next season? If that had been done the Blue Knights might be,by now,close to gaining control.Of the other bidders i think Kennedy might just like the press,cloud 9,judging by their statement, are not really interested,and the rest we dont know enough about.If,as reported,D&P have contacted the SPL and SFA regarding the implications of liquidation then that is the most worrying development so far.The "L" word has been whispered for weeks but this is the administrators openly using it,so why will they not come out and tell the fans the real probability of this? The people i feel sorry for are the ones who have pledged money through various schemes,as much worth as burning fivers i think.Supporters groups also need to have a long hard look at themselves,have they done enough? No.Why did they back the idea of a fans fighting fund without speaking to D&P? Every thing must be opened up for the fans to discuss and decide,debt,player deals,projected costs against projected income the lot.My own thoughts are liquidation is inevitable regardless of who takes over,and lest we forget Mr Whyte lurking in the shadows.Your thoughts gers?

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Whyte has played a great game
the fans have looked around waiting for someone to lead them,no one has stepped up to the plate,to many guilty men perhaps?
no one has even asked the fans for money ie a share issue
but its the BTC its left everyone frozen to the spot
i know myself i,m prepared to invest a big sum from a man working in a poor paid job
but need to wait on the question
the way things are going its not being talked about much looks like the want to steady the ship before they ask
so we need to leave it to the money men before the real fans, step up and play,......les

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The reason we didnt lose big earners was because they are major assets for sale if needed. The first thing that should have been done is the immediate cancelling of season tickets getting us working capital and also getting pro Rangers creditors would have been harsh on the fans but would have made business sense

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04 Apr 2012 14:27:19
Just passing on what I read earlier today, Wully 1690

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04 Apr 2012 14:25:31
with the club in administration,creditors looking for cash,fans digging deep and players on huge wage cuts should rangers have accepted the reported bid for naisy from wba?take into consideration naisy is getting paid for sitting in the stands and might not come back from injury the same player he once was.

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No they were right to reject the bid, getting rid of your top players would put off prospective buyers. The new owners will want some assets.

GovanFR

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Naismith will come back better mate, he's the best Scottish born player in a generation, an west brom would of offered p!sh, keep him till January , he plays the way he can , he will be worth 5mill. That won't happen though an he will probably leave for pittance !
PaulRFC

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The diver the best player of his generation you having a laugh.henke7

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Post 2.what you been snorting???pmsl,the comedy gold is getting better each passing day!!he had good start to the season fair enough,but best scots player in a generation??/??....saying that goian was 1 the best defenders in europe after about 6games,lmao....2million tops for him...stevo

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Away an chase yourselves man , how much did brown cost you lot , how much did kayal cost you , not one player in your squad could wash ( never mind lace) naismiths boots !
PaulRFC

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You dhims ARE aware what a generation means? Or are you ? Name one Scottish born player playing right now who's better than Naismith ? @2 agree

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Paulrfc,rangers offered p!sh for every single player they duped the fans into believing they where trying to sign,on past form(pre injury) rangers would be lucky to get 3.5 for him he,needs to cut out the diving and his constant petulance aimed at referees.squad player at best if he ever moved to a wba,sunderland or bolton etc

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Naismith was head n shoulders above any player in the spl when fit this season n as for last season he was also a standout......thats right tims 2 seasons in a row a player from rangers has performed unlike 10 million pound rated kayal n izaguire!!!
J1985

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Another over rated player,naismith is a petulant moaning diving little runt..ask yourelf why is he out for the season....???.ohhh thats it DIVED into a tackle trying to get revenge on abdeen player...kayal forrest izzy ki wanyama all worth more than 2 dodgy knees ,lol,hes like a hitler youth poster boy

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@7 a Bolton squad player at best , your in an unknown planet to me sweetheart ! Where does that put the players in your squad then ? For Scotland to get through this next qualifying group we need a fully fit Naismith. The prices I've heard you lot spout about your team , don't make me laugh.
PaulRFC

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@6 I'm still waiting to hear what Scottish born player playing right now is better than naisy aswell
L

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Steven fletcher,robert snodgrass,justin rhodes.theres three

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Paulrfc,the unknown planet is called earth,come and join us.Please enlighten us on the top english clubs running up the marble staircase for his signature.Seeing as the discussion is about naismith,why are other clubs players values being mentioned?You appear to be as petulant and childish as your hero.

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Any Scottish player just now is better than Naiknees...the stupid thug is out injured so he's not playing. Here is a list of players better than the wee ned (btw I am a Bear)

Steven Fletcher
Barry Bannan
James McArthur
James Forrest
David Goodwillie
Robert Snodgrass
James Morrison
Islam Feruz
Craig Mackail-Smith
Kenny Miller
Graham Dorrans

Just to name a few.....

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You like that word eh ? Petulant , ooo, tally ho old boy, I don't think I list of heroes would have a footballer on it now do you, you want to see "petulance" look at your so called "captain", what's wrong dhims have I upset you by stating fact that a fully fit Naismith is better than any player you have. Who's been "petulant" now ? Tally ho
PaulRFC

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Paulrfc,its a nice word,describes naismith to a t,remember a fully fit petulant naismith wouldnt cut it in the top flight,your petulance is stopping you from admitting it,once again you bring up another players name but it doesnt hide the fact naismith would be a squad at bolton,eh pet.

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Again forrest-one season
goodwillie-hardly on fire, same to be said for mcarthur.
Bannan-good
fletcher-outstanding
dorrans-decent
snodgrass-no better than mccormack or burke in championship
morrison-on par with naisy at best
as for faruz or whatever his name is......prospect but ur judging him on reputation alone.....2 words john fleck.
J1985

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04 Apr 2012 14:18:42
I personally have no idea how a administrator works, I have had to deal with other companies in admin before but thankfully, touch wood, not myself. So when DP get all the bids in, i would have thought they would stick highest bid at the top of the pile. I would as a company watching an other company in admin that owes me money, rather see a buyer who is coming in with a large cash injection and maybe a cva deal, not a small cash injection with a cva deal and a 5 year plan. Cause I would laugh off the 5 year plan.
Don

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04 Apr 2012 14:13:56
Got to go with you mate. I have given this whole sordid deal a lot of thought and I must say I am drained of reading about what all these money grabbers are going to do for our beloved club, however first and foremost they are business people and they want to make lots of money off our back’s so I like you do believe that Kennedy would be at this point at best the lesser of the evils.
Roll on the good times lads.
Rosehearty True Blue.
It’s great being a bear.

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04 Apr 2012 14:10:17
The whole thing stinks and it has done from the start of administration on Feb 14th. D&P are totally out of their depth. Remember, they were chosen by CW himself. I reckon he still has a big part to play in this whole affair. He will not go lightly, and with that I mean with his wallet laden with cash from whatever the outcome may be.
Outwith TBK, no one else really has Rangers at heart. And, unfortunately, TBK seem to have very little cash to splash.
Even Brian Kennedy, he put in an early bid which by all accounts was well short of D&P's expectations. This guy is just in it for the limelight. To enhance his profile up here and should not be taken seriously. If he was a contender then his opening bid should have at least been enough to keep him in the running. Now he is back, looking for martyrdom, and wants another pop at it.
Its sad times, but it's LIQUIDATION in some form.
I for one will not back a Newco.

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Fans wanted glory hunters need not apply

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04 Apr 2012 13:59:35
All bids today (maybe three) will depend on EBTs and big tax case. Nobody will own Rangers before end of May. If at all.

D&P are now completely familiar with SFA and SPL regulations concerning Liquidation and have received no special concessions for Rangers.

No Europe next season confirmed.

SFA pay £35k of TV revenue to Dun Utd after withholding funds from Rangers. SFA paying our debts to other SPL clubs is shameful, I thought the RFFF was for this. {Ed001's Note - hardly shameful, it is the best thing, it is done automatically in England, it ensures they are paid and stops any arguing. The RFFF can now be put towards paying other creditors.}

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Of course it's shameful , where were you dragged up? Pay their own way, that's what any fan wants if his club, it's being mercenary that caused this mess {Ed001's Note - they are paying their own way. It is money the club has made. Shameful would be not paying it. What is happening now is that all the bills are taken out before being given the left over money. There is nothing wrong with that and it should be done automatically, TV and prize money should only be given to the club after any outstanding debts owed to other football clubs has been taken out of it and paid to them.}

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Just get them paid, who cares where it's from, I honestly can't stand utd , so this should shut them up for while , or atleast untill mouthpiece Thompson wants some attention or more money for his sh!t hole club who can only fill seagull stadium once in a BLUE moon.
PaulRFC

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Final comment Ed, it's shameful that we are not trusted to hand over money we owe. Not that it's not rangers money. {Ed001's Note - ah got you, I can understand what you are saying.}

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04 Apr 2012 13:04:48
There is no bigotry in Scotland why does anyone need to bring this up, personaly i dont care who Rangers win against!

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Really? what planet are you from.?

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04 Apr 2012 12:26:04
Just heard that if Rangers go into liquidation the Rangers Rumours may fold as well! Seriously Ed, what happens to the site if the worst happens to Rangers - carry on with new compaany? {Ed001's Note - I have no idea to be honest. We haven't really thought about it, I suppose we will just keep it for any newco. Really depends on the users of the site, we only started all the individual ones because people asked us to, so if people still want to use them they will stay.}

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04 Apr 2012 11:17:28
the Singapore bid has been shrouded in mystery, leading to speculation it favours the liquidation option but last night a British-based source close to the group revealed a CVA is part of their business plan.
He said: “Ng is a seriously wealthy individual. He feels Rangers represent a fantastic marketing opportunity.
“He would take the brand out of Europe and across the globe but, in particular, to the Far East where there is serious money to be made.
“Not only Rangers would benefit. Scottish football would be taken to these new markets.
“The people behind this don’t want to conduct their business in the public eye, which is why they have not been as vocal as some of the bidders. But they are serious and honourable, respected business people.

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04 Apr 2012 10:49:02
I get a much better vibe from Brian Kennedy than anyone else, this includes the Blue Knightts . He genuinely APPEARS to have the best interests of the club at heart. Also, his rhetoric is clear and to the point. Club 9 couldn,t even land Tranmere, thankfully they seem out of the picture. Good luck Brian.

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I think we all need to get real here.No matter who takes us over we are going into liquidation .Murray &BK don't have enough cash 10million even if Kennedy goes in with them or on his own still not enough Why do you think D&P have been going on about liquidation waken up everyone

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04 Apr 2012 10:41:28
Club 9 not bidding for Gers. Not sure if this is simply mis-understood statements or if its accurate.

"However, Club 9 CEO Jon Pritchett put out a further clarification of his company’s position on social networking site Twitter in the early hours of Wednesday.

He wrote: "Club 9 Sports was not bidding on Rangers FC & is not bidding. Because we were working on the deal w/others, people assumed we were leading.

"To further clarify, the US/UK group with whom we were working is not going to bid for Rangers."

STV

Hopefully this is good news, although all guess worka t the moment.

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04 Apr 2012 10:39:11
can anyone explain what happens to the current players contracts if the club goes into liquidation? if they are declared null and void then surely d@p would have taken the bid for naisey from wba. the only reason they didnt take the bid is because there is no chance of us being liquidated and they are using scare tactics to get the best bid!!!

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Do you really believe West Brom would have bid for a player just back in light training, having had such an injury? Is he going to return to the form that he had prior to the injury? Is he going to suffer the same injury again soon?

The bid never happened, just like the un-named bid for Jelavic in the summer. But you keep lapping up the crap the spout. Some of it may even be true.

Darren

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04 Apr 2012 09:45:39
In your honest opinion ed. who do you think will be the best option for us as you will no more than me as I don't read the news on it all anymore too much garbage going around? {Ed001's Note - I don't think there is a best option, just a less bad option, if you get what I mean? Those with money to invest are going to invest as little as possible, and those without it don't have it to invest. It is going to be a case of making the best of a bad situation.}

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04 Apr 2012 09:28:27
Looking back at history do you think that G.Sounes cost Rangers 10 in a row by not playing A.McCoist MBE. As the Rolling Stones said You cant always blame our we Walter.

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No walters 10 in a row team bottled it.

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What had this got to do with not wining 10 in a row? souness left after 3! Wattys team bottled it as they did in europe..

J

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Disagree Murray scuppered it by telling them they were all for the ofski at the end of the season in mid season hardly a pep talk

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04 Apr 2012 09:17:27
Im going for Brian Kennedy to be the man to take control today or tomorrrow!
As much as i hate Jehova Wittnesses preaching to me they have strong values and do not rip people of.
We had Souness sign the first Catholic that changed bigitory in Scotland would it not be greast for the club to be run by a Jehova?

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Changed the bigotry in Scotland?? Aye you keep believing that pal. If thats the case, you want to stop singing your songs what you might be up to your knees in?

Joeshmo1888

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Maybe Celtic support should stop singing about mccourts army and using the word they find offensive if sung by other supporters

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C T Russell and Judge Rutherford who started the Jehova's Witness'es where 33 Degree masons, so its all good...

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Aye up to wer knees in jelly and ice cream it must have turned by now cmon the killie for the double this weekend doug

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2) Their argument was our song was loud and scary theirs isnt lol

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Loud an scary ooooooh im tremblin here

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04 Apr 2012 08:41:22
Hi,

My friend is a shareholder at Ibrox and sent me a text this morning saying that Club 9 Sports and the group they represent are not going to be bidding for rangers and that the administrators were talking them up to get more money from the Blue Knights and kennedy. There CEO Jon Pritchett tweeted late last night and also sent this email to the Secretary of the RST at 1:30am last night:

"Thank you for your e-mail and introduction. We have purposely avoided and public comments until today because we didn't see the benefit in talking until we knew more about where we were internally. At an early stage, there really is not much value in public statements.

Unfortunately, that did not keep people from talking about us. We read with some humor many of the stories, opinions and rumors about Club 9 Sports. Some of it was accurate, much of it was fictional or factually inaccurate. Regardless, as you may have seen, we were never going to bid on the club ourselves. We were working with a group of people in the US and UK for a few weeks to take a hard look at the deal but that group decided not to move forward.

I just wanted to thank you for reaching out and to say that any smart owner (no matter which side of the pond) will most certainly want to work with your group and others to ensure the fans, supporters and followers are an integral part of the plans for rangers. After all, they are the most important asset of the club

Warm Regards,
Job

Jon L. Pritchett
CEO/Operating Partner
Club 9 Sports, LLC"

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04 Apr 2012 01:22:49
Ed is liquidation looking like the only way now mate, have you heard anything from reliable sources, I'm struggling to separate quotes from opinions from just pure p!sh !
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware nothing is certain, it still seems most likely an agreement will be reached to me.}

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Nothing ever seems certain at our club anymore mate, the only thing certain is there is far more lies buried just waiting to be dug up, what about ticketus ed ? That seems to good a deal to me , 17mill off , no interest, no payment for 2 yr , what do you make of that talk ed ?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - but they will still be involved, with a part ownership of the club and little money is being invested by that consortium. In fact they seem to be reliant on Ticketus to provide working capital, that has to be a worry.}

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Of course u r going 2 get liqud the addmin team said the other week friday was deadline for bids now we have a new deadline now we have a statement from sports 9 saying no bid was made and if the mighty knights get in how r they going 2 pay all the debt cause he does not have the money why do u think his bid was turned down last week the only diffr on his new bid is he says he has a deal with ticktus how is he going 2 pay 15mill outstanding 2 tax man and big tax case when that comes if he was such a good option he would have got the club from day 1 not white the only way forward is liqud and start newco

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I posted the same the other day mate but i actually feel now that we could come out with a cva, but as you said above i cant understand some of the stuff going on.. maybe we should just go to ibrox sit back and have a couple of beers with the big screens on .. i think there will be good and bad news all day, its gonna be some ride today and tom i think.
craig+babybear

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04 Apr 2012 01:18:00
I am nore confused than ever, who is really to blame ? is Whyte a middleman brought in to manage the company into administration and then into the hands of Paul Murray and the Blue Knights. You couldn't write this stuff, its beyond fiction.

What is Craig Whyte at, is he making it more difficult for Ranger to go into Liquidation or is he gonna force the creditors and HMRC to put them into Liquidation. Why doesn't he just cooperate, why doesn't he give the millions back and hand the shareholding over to the receivers.

I can't see what he's at but he taking a mighty risk and I think its gonna end in tears for us all. The HMRC must hate Craig Whyte he's done them over so many times so the less they see and hear from him the better for the club but he still there stirring things up, making everybody mad, nobody should give a penny to Rangers until he's off the scene!

HMRC are the biggest debtors they are owed at least 70 million they are calling the shots so don't piss them off! or liquidations calling.

If they thinks hes up to no good they will lose patience and make an example of Rangers!

Also I am worried because I don't think any of the bidders will have 10 million to put up front, there all looking for a bargain and once in control liquidate, their business people and there is no other option!.

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HMRC are only potentially the biggest creditors. The verdict on the BTC has yet to be read. There are degrees of success (or lack off) to this but if found in our favour, the HMRC debt would stand at approx 15 mil and regardless of what you've been hearing, a CVA is still very possible.

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Since when did rangers owe 70 million quid mate.

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