Rangers Banter Archive August 04 2014

 

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04 Aug 2014 20:24:34
maybe a silly question ed but why were we training at Ibrox today and not MP

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{Ed039's Note - Because they havent played on the surface yet and they are playing on it tomorrow night)

04 Aug 2014 17:08:05
It ain't half doom and gloom on here! I'm as sick of it all as everyone but I still can't wait for tomorrow night and the weekend. Predictions?? I'm going for two wins, not sure on scores, give us a bit of confidence. Please ally play two up front!

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LS hope you haven't been on the Clarkston Bud. I have no idea what the results will be- start of the season is always difficult to predict but I would be astonished if wee Ally plays two up front. This is potentially the last chance to win the Ramsden's Cup and probably even Ally would realise he should win the cup only availabe to the bottom divisions to avoid more derision for our club and hence I expect more caution than ever.

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04 Aug 2014 20:34:19
There's nbear at it again hahaha brilliant off of u! A hope your a real happy guy at heart mate so a do, every single post you post on here's, either slating rangers, or slating your "bested" pal super ally! Now EVERYBODY has an opinion, but you my friend, you must have an ally dartboard in the house or something, if you take a drink, you should maybe just chill out for once, take a couple of deep breaths, have a few beers, and just enjoy life, all this negativity against rangers and super ally isn't good for you mate, NOW ano this is a website for "us rangers supporrters" to vent our comments, have a wee debate here and then, but your always got the knifes out for super ally!! See if you don't mean to come across the way you come across in EVERY SINGLE POST, well I apologise, but you just sound totally bitter towards rangers and more so super ally!!

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04 Aug 2014 21:04:24
There he goes Colin MacDonald the laughing bear.Super Ally blah blah ha ha blah. Change the record yourself or actually go to a game but this time open your eyes. And for 50 years I have been to Ibrox supporting my club and I don't need lessons on it from the visually impaired or intellectually challenged super Ally lah lah land dwellers. But you want a wee debate so come ahead with you. What exactly is so Super about Ally's management that leaves you in such hysterical raptures?
You can apologise for the bitter towards Rangers comment but I am guilty as charged about McCoist I want him out now.
Noo bring it on laddie

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Colin, Nbear will be the first to admit he's at a 'funny' age, but like it or lump it, he states it as it is. It is difficult to justify the manager's team selection tactics etc. , thus the negativity.
The biggest problem that we have is that the product on the park is poor and the buck can only stop at one door.
You refer to negativity and that is the one thing the team's tactics have in abundance.
Don't doubt poster's credentials as bluenoses because they criticise Ally. so maybe you should reflect on what he has given for what he has received.

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Colin bear is just stating hip opinion, and the opinion of most rangers fans. Under mc court we are going backwards we can't keep possession of the ball for more than five passes, we play long ball football, we have singed old men and we don't give youth a chance! How can you possibly still back mccoist as manager

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Nbear got to agree with you mate good honest post at n1

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From one col to another. i'm afraid if you read posts from most on here we all have the same opinion on "super ally".
Great ranger terrible manager. its as plain as the bluenose on your face. doesn't make me love the bears any less or want them to fail. I like most hope and pray we go out tonight and give the hi bees a right doing.
I await with baited breath!!

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Colin every post on here seems to agree with nbear maybe if you took some time to work out why people are in agreement with nbear you would find out the answer as much as we all support rangers and all want us to win every game you must except the whole lot of happenings at our club are wrong

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05 Aug 2014 08:04:44
My points exactly r, has any other manager had to put up with mcCoist has? The answers NO, uz bang on about bringing thru youth, yeah all good on paper, but am not wanting to head up to Ibrox to watch young boys getting bet against experience opposition, then uz bang on about buying in youth, we've NO money for that, so that's ANOTHER no no, and I have as well, iv been to games and also watched games on the telly, and thought to myself, ally what u doing here pal, but we r where we r at this moment in time, it's about being real, some of the posts on here r, people think we're the same rangers we where a few years back, same club, totally different team, totally different position as well, a love ally, but I no if we where the way we where a few years ago, he wouldn't have been the manager, but am sticking by him, this is a big season for us, and this year, am looking for more than just the league, he's brought in a decent standard of player, so there should b no excuses!

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Colin, I have both feet firmly in Nbear's camp on this. I'm not sure what your loyalty to ally, the manager, is based on. His record as a player speaks for itself, he was a hero of mine and I would expect most, if not all, on here. That is now history. We are now in the present and he is to be judged on his current role as manager. This is where it all goes wrong. There are numerous posts regarding his tactical ineptness, refusal to play youth, even AFTER the league was won, the product on the park, the after match comments/excuses, etc, etc and the final nail should have been the Albion Rovers farce. These are the reasons he should no longer be in his position and the comments on here from supporters stating their disapproval. Again, what is your loyalty based on? Is it his past as I cannot think of any other reason.

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I would rather be positive about all things Rangers. But! (you all knew that was coming) the pre-season has not filled me with confidence & given that Ally's report card for cup ties says "F" more times than a tourettes sufferer & his usual tactics! & baffling team selections, I reckon I might be listening to the gaelic commetator on TV whilst quaffing a beer in the Loudon because I have had enough and left at half-time. But Then again! maybe just maybe.

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Nice one, Colin! Too many 'Ally bashers' on here. C'mon the Gers.

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A few so called fans on here would like to see rangers getting beat though. We will beat hibs tonight, and we will see many actually praise the team or who moans for the sake of it.

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Colin I'll try and answer some of your points.
I totally agree that ally has had to put up with a lot more than managing the team. I firmly believe he was gutted what happened to the club no doubt. my grievance is if he loved the club so much why didn't he reduce his vastly over inflated salary. that would have been a great gesture in my eyes.
On your youth argument well I see it differently from you. I would have loved to have gone along to ibrox and watched 11 hungry, proud young boys give there all for the jersey, win lose or draw. also we didn't have to buy other clubs young talent. I think I'm right in saying all we would needed to have paid was a development fee.
The amount we have wasted on wages for guys like cribari, simmosen etc would have more than covered and fees incurred. lastly if you wish to blindly back ally that is entirely your porogotive but I as most people on here have lost faith in ally as a manager. he is never going to walk but if the next few games don't go according to plan the pressure on him might just be too much. so Colin stop picking on a pensioner!

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Point is they are coaching staff, one and all.

You see the same mistakes and errors at end of season as it was at start. That is why coaching staff and Ally as leader have to go.

There is no coaching being done. It is obvious!!

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05 Aug 2014 16:48:11
Cheers geo the ger & lexlau! And decent post bigcol, at the end of the day, there's one thing here, not unless there's a few impostors on this webpage, and am hoping there's not, because that would b sad, we all want rangers to do well at the end of the day, and we all want, what's best for the club, so c'mon the teddy bears tonight, and put on a good show!!

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05 Aug 2014 17:09:27
@ caller 9 well a bit of respect- you have come back for a discussion but the problem is with you super Ally people is it's generally only subjective guff with absolutely no proof.
Your opening line to be true had to have the qualification no Rangers manager. I seem to remember Dundee FC finishing second in one of the lower divisions with a 25 point penalty circa 2007 after administration and the same manager leading them to promotion the following year but on a shoestring?
However HERE IS A FACT NO MANAGER IN THE WORLD HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO SPEND £7 MILLION a year on a football budget after administration and liquidation.
Ally's football budget has been 70 times that of his competition.
Sources - our accounts and the Then Alloa Manager now Dundee Manager Paul Hartley on the national radio station last season the "average football budget for a Championship side is £100.000. a year - 70 times less than that of Ally.

How about this FACT for you "The Club have blown £67million in 18 months to beat shoestring opponents" source Mr Wallace chief executive RFC.

Are you seeing the difference between facts and opinions. You cannot argue with facts no matter how loudly you try and shout your opinions.

Auchenhowie was built at a cost of circa £14 million It was built to produce our own youth not just to be a training ground.
I'm an engineer and I could have built the club a superb training ground for £1million.
The extra £13million spend was demanded by Wee Dick Advocatt when he blackmailed David Murray and was pure and simply for devloping our own youth players to prevent us ever repeating the folly of a £12million waste of money on a big gangly Chelsea reserve.
Non super Ally people on here have never asked for 11 youths but have asked for 11 affordable players who are a mix of experience and youth.
Other clubs without a £14million custom built facility can bring through youths but also sell on youths at spectacular profits and that includes teams who are currently superior to us.
A reasonable man would reasonably assume if a company go bust one of the first business essentials for the new company or re-born company would be to live within it's means. We haven't done that and on the footballing side we haven't come near doing that and that almost as much as the poor football which is emptying Ibrox is behind the frustration by the non Ally devotees.
You have your opinion we have ours but when your opinions are backed by facts they will gain more respect and this will lift them from the level of hot air.

One last fact here is Gretna won successive promotions from divison 3 to the premier division plus the reached the Scottish Cup Final in 2005 when they were in the second division- losing to Hearts.

Let me finish with 3 facts.
! Ally after his not looking at his contract and not knowing he was on £825,000 has no currency left with me.
Ally has currency left with you and your fellow super Ally men.

But both camps - had enough of Ally and we're still behind Ally want the Gers to win tonight.
Its the start of the season I haven't seen Hibs so I have no idea what the score will be.

You say it will be easy peasy 3-0 now do you know that for a fact or is it just guff?

You might be correct without facts but that is rarely the case- tonight I hope you are right- there's a first time for everything

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Colin nothing would please me or the dug more than to come on here and praise ally and the team for producing a cintelating display. we'll just wait and see on that one, but I'm with you that we all want what's best whether differing views or not.
Nbear all I can say you must have typers cramp!!lol
C'mon let's stop all the childish name calling and get back to making this forum enjoyable again. "we are the people"the best fans in the world bar none.

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Great post Nbear but alas, I'm pretty sure the pro ally brigade will chose to ignore the FACTS as it doesn't fit with their agenda. Just can't fathom out what their loyalty is based on but, as has been said many times, we are all entitled to an opinion.

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05 Aug 2014 22:37:41
Ooooooooff that was heavy weather there, hibs looked decent! Probably the better team until they went down to 10 men, they got their goal out of nothing, defensive effor from mcgregor, that lad was shocking throughout the game, straight ball down the middle of the park with no pressure on, STILL seemed too much for him to deal with, really disappointed with that lad tonight, McLeod played well, took his goal well, law needed that goal, he was bad as well, but 2-1 nevertheless, and through to the next round, ended up a good result, the whole of the extra time, there was only one winner, and that was us! Now for hearts, let's hope after a few games we'll b looking much better!

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05 Aug 2014 23:25:05
Well said bigcol1872, I do agree, my points have always been defending mcCoist and the team regardless, but I do agree with most posts on here about the way the teams been playing and mcCoist etc!! A love the bears mate, and although it wasn't great tonight, it was a decent result overall, I'd a took that result before the game!

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Nbear after reading your post at 17 I've now had second thoughts of taking your place for two weeks I could never in a month of sundays come into your league mate the job is still yours lol

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06 Aug 2014 00:23:38
Okay Bigcol and Blue Velvet that's out my system but here is another thing that is bothering me.
Today's revelation that in the same month as Shyte bought Rangers HMRC were close to bankrupting him for nearly £4million in outstanding taxes

Now I'm not one of these bears that looks around to blame every one else for our demise but does this not bring out a whole series of other questions for you?

There was a special board set up to look into Shyte and they said he was unsuitable.
Murray said he was duped
Murray and the Bank ignored the advice of the board about Shyte

Did HMRC think they would now get money due to them if a serial rogue was in charge of a football club that already owed them money?

Could it all have been different if the selik fan who worked for HMRC and started leaking all the confidential tax affairs had been a bear and had leaked the fact that Shyte owed the tax man £4million and did not have off the radar wealth?
Would this leak have made any difference to eg the SFA in the category of "suitable person"?

Somewhere amongst all this wreckage there is one giant class action if bears fans can organise themselves and agree for once.

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Nbear we aren't talking about alloa, Dundee, Paul hartley, Gretna or hearts, talking about ally mccoist and the rangers team. You have wrote a lot but nothing regarding ally or the team. Do you beileve £67m has been spent on the team?

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06 Aug 2014 02:08:58
tmwnn I look forward to the day when all we want to talk about is what is the best team. And "he had a great game but if we tried this formation" etc etc but we are far from there yet.
What I would say though if there ever has been a better left back for the Gers than Lee Wallace then he has completely slipped my mind.

Over to you now mate because I'm off

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Nbear if the hmrc man was a bluenose them at hmrc would have made sure these stories would not have been allowed to be leaked / I've seen on another site how this was all one big case of trying to finish rangers fc / people are shouting for public inquiry with the same names croping up again and again lots of toilet rolls being sold in the east end seeminly

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06 Aug 2014 10:22:28
@24 Your right John- THE END!

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04 Aug 2014 16:59:36
Mohsni will be banned for the first 2 games against hibs and hearts after the sfa uphold the ban received after his sending off against derby

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Some good news at last.

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04 Aug 2014 13:13:27
I'm in Norway on holiday at the moment and just finished this week end is the Lyngdal cup held in Lyngdal and the Norway cup held in Opslo the later is the biggest football tournament in the World. This from a nation the same size as us shown on national tv and the football was a joy to watch! My star player and one to watch out for in years to come a wee guy called OSCAR BOB, outstanding! They appear to be years ahead of us!

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04 Aug 2014 17:57:49
Is he better than his brother Sideshow? Sorry -Bongo but even if he was an outstanding talent- would he flourish under our management team?

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No chance I failed to mention these teams are all under 16 enough said on that one But the skills these teams were showing was different from what I've seen in Scotland enjoy the game tomorrow mon the Gers!

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Bongo enough said right enough lol

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04 Aug 2014 12:21:36
Hearts 4-0 win over St Johnstone in a testimonial game has started alarm bells ringing for me! I really don't think the Championship is going to be won easily by Rangers, if at all. That is, unless McCoist is replaced. If we can't have a go at this league playing two strikers in every game then what is it all about? Hearts and Hibs have new management structures in place and will be raring to go. I think we'll know by Christmas if we are likely to win the title and then action would have to follow if it doesn't look on the cards.

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End of September we will know. Endof October ALLY will be history.

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