Rangers Banter Archive February 04 2013

 

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04 Feb 2013 22:55:06
Though shirt maker and sponsor was to be announced today? Surley not another lie from Green.

Briggs

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Did you have that marked on your calendar? I don't believe you lot at times

JG

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@1: Green did say within ten days. That was a while ago now.

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@2 CG has a lot to learn about life in the goldfish bowl and maybe he should make less statements, there seems to be a lot of obsessed people hanging on everything he says
Could be the deals for kit and sponsorship are taking longer than originally thought to finalise but why the panic?
we are six months away from a new season, I can't remember a new strip ever being released in February before

JG

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@3: strips aren't usually released in February but kit deals are announced early.

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04 Feb 2013 21:15:13
Ally to be sacked in the next 48 hours

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Would not be a shock, but replacement could be.

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I tell you what I hope so bring in the butcher he plays ATTACKING MINDED football and get laudrup or amo as the assistant I know it probably won't happen but that's my opinion and it stays that oh yes and ed have you read anything about ally getting sackee
AndyBear98

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Amaroooooso you having a laugh

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Butcher wouldn't leave for a championship team what makes you think he will come to a division 3 club.

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If Ally goes Mculloch would be given a role in new set up.

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Re 2] yes Butcher may be interesred but there is no way Laudrup or Amo would have an interest.

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@4 did you see the crowd caley had a killie on sat, he would definitely leave for rangers without a doubt, would green have him though? Green looking for a puppet like mccoist.

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@7: why do you think Caley had so few fans on Saturday/

Hint: have a look at their last few fixtures and the weather.

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@7 the year we got to the UEFA cup we had 6 games in 18 days, each one we sold out our allocation.

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@8 look at the weather?

Is the weather not the same for all supporters?

JG

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@10: you do know that the weather isn't the same all over Scotland?

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04 Feb 2013 20:28:11
Sad to hear of Gazza and his fight with the demon
drink. It seems that so many of the true great
footballers succumb to this horrible disease.

The likes of Maradona, George Best, and Jim Baxter,
True football geniuses who seem to have this death
wish.

I have to say that as far as Gazza is concerned, I think
everybody suspected that this may be the outcome
after fis football days were over. Whilst he is clearly a loose cannon I find it incredible that the "football family" have
not done more to help him, surely somebody of his
talent could find a job. A once worshiped national
hero and look at the state he is in. I would even
suggest that he should be given a coaching role
at Ibrox, maybe some of the kids could be taught
how to really play the game.

I for one wish him and anybody else in this position
the very best of luck in kicking the habit.

I will also never forget some of his performances in
the light blue jersey, particularly his hat trick against
Aberdeen, one of the best displays I have ever seen.

Good luck Gazza. {The Ed039's Note - great post)

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Agree with ed, great post. Gazza one of my fav players and its so sad to see the state he is in just. I hope he gets he help and support he needs.
Good luck gazza - proves every genius has his flaws
The tiger

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His friends have arranged for rehab. I hope he takes this chance as I fear he won't get another one. A sad lesson to all young bears. CheltBlue

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Would love to see Gazza offered some kind of coaching position at Rangers. Would hopefully give him something to concentrate on and look forward to. Getting involved in the football set up again could really benefit him and us.

Rangers1

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@3: he's been given that many times before and failed - coaching, management, even playing didn't help him concentrate. {The Ed039's Note - Do you suggest just abandoning him altogether then. The guy need some serious professional and PROLONGED help or he will end up just another tragic statistic. I hope he finds whatever it is he needs before its too late)

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@4 Gazza is a legend in my eyes and the Rangers fans will always adore him and I'd gladly welcome him back. Maybe previous jobs haven't worked out for him but Gazza himself has said he had the happiest period of his life at Rangers. Gazza served us well and gave us many many happy memories so I'd like to see the club give him something back by inviting him back to Rangers in some capacity. Would hopefully help him get his life back on track knowing he was back at a club where he was loved.

Rangers1

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05 Feb 2013 17:22:03
@Ed. I didn't mean not to give him help, just that coaching etc. hasn't helped in the past. It's proper medical help he needs. {The Ed039's Note - I know that mate, he needs prolonged help though, and again, its the kind of help that is probably isnt extended to wee Joe Bloggs on the street, but his celebrity profile means he will get it just so long as he is sticking to it)

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05 Feb 2013 17:22:03
@Ed. I didn't mean not to give him help, just that coaching etc. hasn't helped in the past. It's proper medical help he needs.

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He can only save himself!& professional guidance is urgently needed, great m8s he has in his hours of need, they just cadged along, living the good life, now he's on his ar$e where are they? {The Ed039's Note - I edited your post as you will see, the stuff you typed after that will not be put on this site! As for your question where are his friends, it is Lineker, Ronny Irani, Chris Evans and some other friends who are paying for his rehab, so his friends think plenty of him)

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The guy needs sectioned, he has clear mental health issues demonised by his drinking habits and hangers on he accumulated at every club he played for, he needs sectioned, commenced on Librium, not paraded around like some trophy for all and sundry to laugh at, what the hell were those persons who dragged him on stage thinking about, the way he is going, I doubt he will see 2014.

Ska bhoy

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04 Feb 2013 18:49:57
I have been one of mccoists biggest fans but even I can see that standards are slipping. This may seem to most a small thing but why is mccoist not wearing a suit and tie on match day. Every rangers manager I can remember wears a suit. Wearing a tracksuit looks sloppy and is well short of the standard a rangers manager should be setting his players. Granto

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Good god! It does not matter what he wears if the team are moving forward and playing good football.

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The club went bust leaving a trail of financial mayhem and you think standards have dropped because the manager does not dress in a collar and tie!

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This has to be the most stupid post of all time. We have been liquidated owing £millions, we have a CEO who wants to fight with everyone and we are in a semi-pro/amature league and your concerned about Ally's dress sense.

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Aye right, I'm sure the guys run on to the park and look at the dugout and think where's the boss, s suit and brown brogues. He looks sloppy. I'm not going to try today. Gok Wan for manager. . DH

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Iv not seen many 3rd division managers wearing suits. but the bit that sums him up is hearing him on the touch line shouting instructions to his players " C, MOAN SON UP THE WING " how schoolboy stuff is that

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4. I'm beginning to think Gok Wan might do as a good a job in the cups as Ally has.

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04 Feb 2013 16:40:21
Would just like to make a point about the current squad and coaching staff at rangers,

We have got some of the best SPL players of last season outwits the Old Firm, Templeton, Shiels, Sandaza (at times) was great for St Johnstone. So why are they now under performing at Ibrox? Maybe the problem doesn't lay with the players but the coaching, training and tactics getting fed to them. The performances this season have been shocking both individuality and collectively.

Maybe it's not new players we need nor a new scouting system, maybe the biggest problem at Rangers the now is the coaches. We currently cannot sign any players but what's stopping us investing in the best proven coaches availabe? I see this as the main problem and we could actually save money in the long term by investing in better coaching which in turn will get the best out of the players and development of the younger lads. What does everyone else think about this?

Jas {The Ed039's Note - With the salaries the coaching team there actually collect you could invest in better coaches for less money)

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Could it be that the players you mention were big fish in a small pond? that's the difference between Rangers and Celtic players, they have to show every game, the fans demand it.

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The guys that came from outwith the SPL are all terrible to be honest I'd love us to get back upto the SPL with a team made up of British players with the majority Scottish would be nice to see look at the Dundee Utd team to be fair they've seriously underachieved this season but a lot of there players would walk into our side!

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I said yesterday I thought the likes of Sheils, Templeton, Black & Sandaza all looked better players before they came to Ibrox and you would have thought that at a bigger club with a better paid coaching staff at the country's best coaching facility they would have IMPROVED as players even in a lower division.

As for Ally saying that cups aren't important I wish he'd told me that before I spent good money attending matches in the Ramsdens Cup, the League Cup and the Scottish Cup.

Note to Ally --- every competitive game Rangers play is important!

Very Angry Bear

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I think that the current squad and the manager and the coaching staff at Rangers are poor in doing their jobs. Sorry Ally, nice lad but he is not to the level he is up the level.

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It is easy to have a go at Ally's signings but I have to say I was surprised and delighted when Black, Sandaza & Shiels signed. I thought it was astonishing that these players signed for a team in div three. They are no world beaters but they were better than I thought we would get. However they have been truely awful, and the question has to be asked why. I don't buy this excuse about having no time in div three, anybody with any class would find time in div three. Is it the coaching, I am afraid it might be. Is it lack of motivation, probably. Either way the buck stops at Ally's door.

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04 Feb 2013 20:46:12
@3 good post from genuine fan.
My bear pals too were told when renewing season tickets that the cup competitions were important, not just for prestige but also as a way of raising additional funds both in gates and prize money.
By going out of Ramsdens, CIS and Scottish Cups I estimate your club has maybe lost about £2m in possible revenue, at a time when you clearly need every penny that is a lot to forfeit. Timalloy

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The players you mentioned have all proved that they can play at a higher level and performed well with their previous clubs.
Motivation and tactical awareness might have a lot to do with these players under achieving at Rangers and the fact the defence is constantly pulled all over the place which does not exactly inspire confidence through out the whole team

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Good players don't need coaching. You can't tell me Ian black needs to to be coached how to tackle and pass at his age. You can't tell me sandaza needs coaching on how to finish if they can't do it now they never will. It's a confidrnce thing and the negativity from fans recently is a great help. Not.

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As the old saying goes. you can lead a horse to water buy you can't make it drink it. that's exactly what the big salaries have achieved

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Cups are not important. what happened to " cup games against spl sides like motherwell are like big champions league games "

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@8 all players need coaching or clubs wouldn't have them, I do agree that if black can't do the basics by now then he never will, a good coaching staff is vital to getting the best out of players
DB77

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04 Feb 2013 23:47:07
@9 I agree. They're earning good money and obviously hate it in d3 so not trying. They look completely unmotivated. Ally can't manage them on or off the pitch

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04 Feb 2013 16:25:37
Whispers that some of greenes backers pulled out& charlie starting to panic, he's of to dubai. think the roller coaster of last feb too this one is about too get rolling, hmrc appealling the verdict also, years&years of bdo& tax investigations will drag on. Just someone with concrete evidence tell who has the deeds too ibrox, get the pr spin from traynor, he's out for fast buck also, dark clouds on horizon. . Sm {The Ed039's Note - He is off to Dubai to attend the annual ECA conference so the scaremongering begins)

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The eca have no relevance, just all idle talk, just like when had the g8 for the top teams in europe. a jaunt away from the flack about to come his way. wheres the addisa deal?wheres the dallas cowboys connection etc& as said why not come clean *& show or explain the title deeds, something not rite& will no doubt surface when end of season comes, there's no income to be made in the lower leagues, so 1or2 more years of the level at present, sorry but all going to go pear shaped, serious questions need answerd, is the 22million pledges in the bank from the moneymen. sm

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Greens backers can pull out anytime they want, they sell their shares. Then somebody else buys them. It makes no difference to Green now.

Sounds like you are trying to stir it but don't understand what you are lying about.

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@ 2 you seem to be getting mixed up between share holders who bought shares and original backers who put up the loan for green to buy the club that money wasnt for buying shares it was a loan and needs to be paid back with interest

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Just a short note re the poor Rangers at 1st level. We are quite poor. However, I watch the Youth System for kids aged 12-17. And I believe the young kids are exceptional.! Be positive about the kids!

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04 Feb 2013 16:21:54
What's you opinion on the Rangers travelling support going to the game at tannadice for me I do not have a problem I am a season ticket holder and if Charlie Blue wanted a boycott he should have withdrawn from the competition Manchester United withdrew from the FA cup 10 years ago to attend the world club championships. I believe we must all stick together as Rangers supporters wether they were there or not the last thing we need right now is a fraction between supporters this will play into others hands. WATP

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Not entirely sure of the rules, but would be very surprised if the team could withdraw from national competition due to bad feeling between clubs. Its over now anyway, long road ahead. Expect more hatred and hostility with every celtic prophecy that does not come to pass.

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The FA told Utd to withdraw.

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Like what has been posted previously, we are being filled by mouth Mcoist lies day in day out --- he says he bought in top SPL players to win cups - now he has managed AGAIN to get us out of every cup his theory is to concentrate on the league! - your a joke Mccoist and the sooner you go the better it will be for our club!

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Green boycotted because the fans told him to, stop blaming him.

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The fans told him to boycott? Which fans, I know plenty that thought the boycott was wrong.

And the money due to Rangers for the game is going to a charity of Ranger's choice so why the criticism of the fans that went to Tannadice?

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04 Feb 2013 16:10:50
HRMC granted leave to appeal the FTT. Now moves to STT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21326039

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Moves 2 UTTT, and what a waste of tax payers money, funny tho, coincides wy nimo and sphell kangaroo court, defo dark side involved in all of these organisations, faster we get 100,000 signitures for e-petition the better, time flush this garbage out

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STT is second tier tribunal, and therefore is class an Upper tier tribunal - which appeals a First Tier Tribunal decision.

Big issue is what is the form of defense MIH will be able to raise, given the FACTS (undisputed) in the FTT - that MIH staff trying to undermine the tribunal by giving a witness documents as they come off plane, so witness can say they did have them. how poor.

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Was always destined for the Supreme Court, HMRC need a definitive judgment that can't be appealed so they can do settlements with all the other companies who enjoyed the use of EBTs.

This has a long way to travel yet.

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@1 course its all the dark side. ?

Scooby-doo defense next, why did rangers just not pay tax, and be done. Celtic paid tax on thier EBT - and all fine.

Rangers (mih) buried head in sand, say no issue here, then agreed 30 at fault, and won reprieve on 50+ - so now appeal on a point of law - that's all that's needed to overturn decision, just one point of law.

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So many boring comments "why didn't they pay tax" when every single person would happily avoid tax legally, which rangers have done here

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No they did not

The "wee tax case" went against Rangers - they were found guilty- but went into administration followed by liquidation. meaning they went bust before the payment was made!

Five of the appealed cases were also conceded by MIM - they admitted they were guilty

Where do Rangers supporters get the idea that the club/company/holding company are innocent in this matter - they are guilty both by verdict and admission

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Even the ones they admitted to bring in breach?

Paddy Malarkey

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Do you think your a qc get back to the unwashed site

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8) and found not guilty, oh forget that did you?

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04 Feb 2013 15:28:48
HMRC have just announced they are to appeal the tribunal decisions over EBT's. Get ready for another round of guilty before trial.

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Rangers may face a winding up order over an unpaid bill. You heard about this ED? {The Ed039's Note - Ed007 was just telling me there are stories that an Asian investor isnt happy with CG and is ready to serve a winding up order, but I have just asked how an investor does that? Only HMRC or creditors can do it, thats all I know of)

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Ed039 - RFC is now on AIM and so subject to those rules and regs - so it can be suspended or fined under the various laws.

Winding orders can be raised by any unpaid bill except in small claims court.

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Depends what undertakings Green & Co have entered into with thier "unknown investors" - if any require payment on due date then that's when things get interesting.

Is the Hearts final payment (in full) that Green tried to get 50% of now due this month?

Also any other football debts now due, and potential fines.

Also AIM raise money (£17 million) - not just pledges need to be lodged. ?

Green off to dubia very convenient, out of the country in the darkest week for RiFC - out of cup, LNS decision pending, bills due. .

Anniversity of Feb 14 coming, and green away.

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Well said ed, so many non professionals on here, couldn'y do a tax return if they were advised by HMRC

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HMRC would have to be a creditor to issue a winding up notice. A shareholder can also apply for a winding up order if the club is trading insolvently, or indeed for a number of other instances. The actual order is issued by the court and not all applications are granted.

Thought you bears would be clued up on this by now.

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ED039; I think you have to petition the courts for a winding up order but it is a pretty long drawn out affair.

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7) in Engerland you can get high court writ to seize assets to value of money owed (although what you could seize as assets from RFC. ?). no need to go as far as winding up order. is it same in Scotland?

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04 Feb 2013 14:01:10
the problem ain't just with the manager if green had the guts when he came into rangers he would have reshaped this club top to bottom and started a fresh instead its full of dead wood scouts coaches manager players and wages are far to high that's our problems we will not move forward untill this happens look at lennon at celtic he brought in all the people he wanted scouts his assitants and coaches you need good youth coaches to get the best out of the youngsters and we have none of this reshape needed

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Its not that he didn't have the guts, he just doesn't have the ability or nous. he thought he was buying a going concern for peanuts, that would waltz back to the top. methinks he is realising he has bought a dud! andy

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04 Feb 2013 13:10:19
HMRC have lodged their appeal against the EBT ruling. And on it goes!

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Worst HRMC given leave to appeal, they lodged in Dec2012 - now appeal granted.

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04 Feb 2013 12:43:19
when sept comes I think there will be players getting moved on, our 2 centre backs from sat should be the 1st ones out. there must be 2 boys in the 2nd or 1st div who can do a job for us for probably half the salary that these guys are on!

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Whos going to take these duds on the wages they get and why woul they leave so looks like yer stuck with them till their contract runs out chortle chortle

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04 Feb 2013 12:00:08
The entire Rangers selection, and the man who has assembled them, didn't do themselves any favours. Rangers have a £7 million wage bill - double that of United - precisely to be competitive in cup ties such as yesterday's, even if their manager now prefers to say winning a league they simply couldn't fail to win is their focus. That isn't why Dean Shiels, David Templeton, Francisco Sandaza and Black were brought to the club.

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£7m b******* not a chance

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Yes you're right I had forgotten Ally saying at the start of the season he had built a squad to compete in the cups! - makes a mockary of his weekend comment of cups aren't important, he's beginning to sound like a bullsh----r.
JMG

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The old saying to be a good liar you have got to have a good memory, ally hasn't a clue in any of these departments as well as managing doug t. s. o

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Ally has contradicted himself several times in past 18 months. Appearing confused at times.

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In his defence, its been a rough ride. he's obviously not going to be a manager but the confusion probably comes from having microphones shoved in your face every day. what if he went and green had a puppet in there and could get on with filling his pockets?

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04 Feb 2013 11:59:12
Rangers supporters insist they are the same club post-liquidation. On the evidence of such a gulf between what they were not so long ago and what they are now, you wonder why they don't want to create distance. Their team do that on the park, and lagged miles behind a sharp, energised home team, with the most notable contributions the straight red card to Kal Naismith for a horrible lunge on Willo Flood late on and the dismissal that quickly followed for Ian Black, who could have had two yellows long before he inevitably did.

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Aye, a sharp, energised team that will do as it normally does and fall on it's erchie in the next big game. United's players flatter as much as ours. that's why they are where they are in the league. and shock, horror, fouls were committed. well dodgy penalties were given and goals that were but weren't given have also been seen over the last two weeks. what's your point mate?

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04 Feb 2013 11:30:13
The Rangers operate with the second highest wage bill in Scottish football - a hefty £7m - and will run at a loss merely for the reward of skooshing a league otherwise composed of part-time teams with, on average, a 28th of their budget.

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The 28th of their budget would be all the teams put together I take it?

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Yep. agreed. Do you not think there is something funny going on here. Another scam? Why would I throw millions into winning Division 3? Perhaps because my name is CG and I put not a pound in, but am able to take plenty out. Being taken for fools.

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04 Feb 2013 10:43:26
Charles Green -not a genius. Putting a manager in a position that he can not afford to fire him from. It will cost more to fire Ally than to hire a new team.

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Greene is a liability, He will move Ally upstairs and bring in possibly McInnes, but I question Walter Smiths, judgement in keeping Ally as manager, it was alright when Wattie was pulling the strings, but Ally has been found wanting when it matters, the club has a long way to go, it won't be easy in the 1st, 2nd Divs,

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Make no mistake about it, Walter is advising Ally plus he instructed him for 6 years. Walter is to blame for Ally as his mentor.

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No 2 did you ever think ally could be the dunce of the class, he could be told umpteen times but it doesn't seem to register maybe he thinks his name is ally mc neil doug t. s. o

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04 Feb 2013 06:45:19
As we all sat there, the Dundee United fans sang their ditties of abuse: about liquidation, zombies, "you're not Rangers anymore" and the rest. Given the traumatic last 12 months, this is the sort of stuff the Rangers support is going to have to get used to, and live with, for years to come.

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You dish out abuse to other teams, so when they have some ammunition you have to expect to get it back. Its the way it is. D'you think Celtic fans will ever leave the dead Rangers patter alone? No chance mate. Rangers never ever stopped with the chants, so why would Celtic now they have ammunition?

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Well we will need to dish it back out a bit stronger then, works both ways doesn't it, dundee utd will get their day and it won't be too far away till the smirks are wiped off their faces doug t. s. o

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Doug; Care to back that up with some facts? They will sell Russel and Mckay Steven for around £2m in the summer while reducing their wage bill. They also seem to have a manager who actually knows what he is doing. His clever subs killed the game.

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So you expect to dish it out for year and get nothing in return? Wow the voice of the sadly dilluded! This whole episode in your old club and now new club has highlighted the arrogance that has proved to be your downfall, because in your time of need nobody wanted to help you! And the fact that your club is sailing in to the abyss once more is going robe even more enjoyable the second time around for the normal fans of every other team in Scotland!
Administration and liquidation, twice in a year! That must be new world record lol we all can't wait bitter bears, cannot wait!

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@3 great post mate! But totally wasted on his like! Bitter and twisted to the end! And it's people like that who have destroyed the game in our country with that same pathetic attitude!

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Well why have russell and mckay steven not been snapped up? I rate the 2 of them but would they cut it down in england? both teams on saturday were full time teams supposedly, like matt mc kay the australian said gers don't do proper training, take this lot out to gullane sands and show them what real training is gers looked 2nd best to every ball at the weekend, nothing to do with clever subs coming on doug t. s. o

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Bitter and twisted? no 5 I've seen the other side of the coin first hand and I know where the bitterness and chips on the shoulders lie, put your name to your post or go back to your own slimy site and spike it with your crap doug t. s. o

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@6 Doug; I would think the Russell to celtic rumour might have some substance and McKay Steven had a bit to prove, but I would expect him to move in summer having done so. As for them cutting it in England I would say yes, at what level who knows? Your Gullane mention has some merit, as the players have looked off the pace since the first game but it is now Feb! All down to Ally i'm afraid. Bad manager.

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Don't know what the OP expected after Rangers fans decided to boycott the match. Get real and learn to take it on the chin, have you never heard us dishing out abuse?

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How can you call it abuse? It was just song they made up to have a go at you maybe if you had fans there you could have have it back but you weren't. If that is abusive songs then what do you call the songs that you sing that has no place in football or any where? Double standards with you as always, they were just singing the truth for you are not rangers as that club is in Liqudation (as the other song) grow up if you don't like it maybe you should be mad at your legends that did that to your club instead of the people just having clean fun.

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No 8 yes murder hill and big jock was the right medicine for the team got guys like alex mc donald super fit and could run all day, yes ally is a bad manager and loves the lime light of the big stage but he will not go easily his ego is as big as david murrays doug t. s. o

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#4 I think its very interesting that only 3 fans have disagreed with your comment but what's even more interesting is that nobody has commented on it! just sayin.

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I thought this game was suppose to be about wiping the smurks of uniteds face? was the boycott not suppose to be punishing united for wrong doings to your club and now it backfired and left your club a bit red in the face you now want revenge because your revenge plan was a total disaster. get a grip of yourselfs

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04 Feb 2013 00:26:18
My goodness how times have changed, I am afraid
that I think Ally's number is up.

But it seems the names being banded about - McInnes, Davies, and I don't understand why we would possibly
want either. McInnes did ok at St Johnstone, and
quickly lost his job in the championship. This record
hardly makes him a prime candidate. Davies is another,
I can't remember any of his numerous teams being any
good and he has been sacked by all of them. Really does
this warrant being managerial material.

Two years ago we would have never considered these
people. I think the only man for the job is one WS.

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Celtic fan here

Butcher would be a great appointment if you could get him, personally I think he would jump at the chance to manage Rangers and I think he would really galvanise you. He has never ever had the luxury of a big wage budget yet he has done very well at Motherwell considering the mess they were in and he is doing a fantastic job at Caley thistle. He would have the players spilling blood for the shirt.

Listen nobody seems to have considered the fact Charles Green might already be a step ahead of you and is planning to get a new man in next year. The Rangers job is a far more appealing one to a potential new manager when it is one step closer to the SPL and is again able to sign players. So it may suit him to stick by McCoist just now, pleasing the hardcore McCoist fans by giving a fair crack at it, then stating Ally's record the reason for relieving him of his duties and getting a new man in. Its plausible.

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Not sure that Butcher would go. He wrote some not very enthusiastic comments about Rangers and their fans in his book (not quite criticism but enough to suggest that he would think twice about going back). Also if he was after money he could have moved to Doncaster or what ever earlier this year. He loves the life style in inverness and he ain't goint to ge that in glasgow, particularly if he gets Newco back into the SPL. Not suggesting that he would get the same treatment as Lennon but certainly be enought to give pause.

Also he has a chance to really make something at Inverness. At Ibrox all be can do is chase after past glory.

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