Rangers Banter Archive January 05 2015

05 Jan 2015 19:03:02
think bout time sfa grow a pair and haul ashley up immediately he is taking the mick out us the fans and them the sfa the meeting should be called forward think he can do what he wants king and 3 bears make your next move cause this board have just proven they can not be allowed time to get a plan in place

Some folks need to grasp reality,

the sfa don't have a leg to stand on here,

RIFC have just held a properly constituted AGM where the majority of shareholders (not MA) elected the board of directors to run the company for the next 12 months, that board have just appointed a new finance director which is within their right to do so, that's how plc companies work

Tell me how the sfa are going to determine all this was done under the influence of a guy who owns 8. 9% of shares

JG

The sfa have had years to investigate this cancerous mob, but to date not done much, as Ashley is riding roughshot over there agreement of no more than 10% involvement, really concerned that this has got to the stage, surely someone from higher legal authority can see this isn't right

05 Jan 2015 18:19:44
I just don't get it we're having to get a loan today to get us through 2/3 days according to an stv report just now then at the end of report they finish with news just reaching them that ashleys man Barry leach has just been appointed finance director??? Another wage added on to wage bill we are already struggling to meet.
r. f

05 Jan 2015 18:53:10
this lot are a disgrace to the club I think the fans now have a big part to play cause Ashley ain't going they are going secure more loans against assets sell players ect time for the fans to unite together and plan a mass demonstration against these people at a home game this will grab media attention and let investors no we are not happy if 50000 fans stood up to these money grabers outside ibrox and sayed not a penny more they would take notice then this only way forward for the fans

Dont bother with what is in papers about finances there is no chance of the cclub going skint there are 2 many people with a vested interest in the club but the boycott should end because the continual strive for cash will take a lot of unravelling at the end of the day with assets to be released from guarntees etc

05 Jan 2015 21:44:43
i see your point where you are coming from BIGWULL at this point and time there is no boycott just fans wising up but we can deal with all that when there is a deal signed and sealed with 3 bears king ect the fans will fill the stadium at this point and time we are getting tain for mugs and they will not move on untill fans stop giving them money this is reason they are still there cause they still getting money even just for one game it would be good for all fans to unite for once and show them what the club means to us this would never be allowed to happen at another football club yet we sit back and take it

05 Jan 2015 17:30:58
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Sandy Easdale provides further loan as Sarver Rangers interest is confirmed

05 Jan 2015 15:37:03
BB scotland running stories that aren't true
Daily change the record printing stories that aren't true
They are all on the take
Believe that

05 Jan 2015 20:26:14
Gordy:Is it true the government are reptilian mutants?

05 Jan 2015 14:15:19
Rangers in clear over ni claims, another blatant lie that nearly came back to bite us. Time for a complete boycott to rid the club of this disease

05 Jan 2015 13:05:25
I think we all welcome the involvement of Letham, Park, King etc and I don't know anything about this American other than what is in the papers/radio etc.

The question I have is how come Ashley is so powerful. What is the make up of votes, surely between them, king, park, Letham, fans, (Ally) have more than enough to get short of him.

Why don't they get together give him his.3 million then his@9percent are useless.

If there was a vote tomorrow on investment be it carver or anyone else who holds the power! Who ever it is we should make our feelings known.

More twists and turns than a twisty turny thing! I hope things improve, not looking for millions and champions league next week just a club running well, playing good football and working our way to challenge at the top!

05 Jan 2015 11:48:19
This Robert sarver guy has a degree in business administration so by my watch that degree helps non profit businesses grow and be stable so I don't think this guy will be investing heavily into Rangers he has built banks up and sold them for profit so he ain't what we need by any means our best bet is to get park letham and Taylor and king in as the main men at rangers

{Ed001's Note - surely that is exactly what you need? Bizarre comment.}

Aye but what I am getting at he ain't gonney be pumping millions into Rangers so we will still be struggling with the dross we have at the moment we need Rangers men pumping money in for us to be challenging for league titles and qualifying for the champions league in maybe 2 years

{Ed001's Note - surely it is time to grow up and start worrying about just having a club to support and stop the delusions about challenging for titles in the short term? Ungrateful some of you are! So greedy. Never satisfied. Always wanting more. It is tiresome. Live within your means and make sure this never happens again, like Hearts are doing.}

Really!all I want is the club to be run as a profitable business. who cares if he isn't going to pump millions in. think some fans need a reality check

Ok just let's sit back and watch the rest earn millions and for us to be a mediocre team fine if your happy with that then that's fine eh let Celtic win 20 in a row and qualify for Europe every year

{Ed001's Note - Rangers and Celtic have a much bigger support than any other team in Scotland, so living within your means should still put you in the title fight every year! You really need to just be thankful for what you have and stop worrying about other teams.}

Ed you are spot on, posters like south side bear and gers09 are persons that are dreaming in some blue grass coloured and sugardaddy mad world they still live in, thankfully the more intelligent majority of Rangers fans can see exactly as you point out is the future akin to Hearts we live within our means and avoid every going into Administration or worse liquidation ever again.
Celtic are thankfully not the force they could be as they have not developed their side at all and seem to have a pretty poor manager in charge I actually think the sheep and the arabs will give them a reasonable run in league this year. When we rid ourselves of this board and sign up a young clever tactically aware manager we will always attract at least 60% of kids growing up in Scotland which means we get access to over half the best young talent and our wage structure even when on new sensible lines will stilll far exceed every team outside Celtic especially when we do enter Europe and have top division level sponsorship. Ashley's con kit deal has to run out at some point then we have the most saleable football kit in Scotland and one of top selling kits in the world so income from shirt sponsor and kit sales are huge when we are being run as a proper functioning business. Walter smith ran Rangers on minimal spending plus restrictions from the TSB but still won us three in a row against a much better celtic team and took us to a UEFA Cup Final so there is no reason we cannot achieve all this again whilst remaining on a successful business model and not going millions into debt like our crazy past.

So get real you persons or do you want us to go out of existence for EVER trying to meet unattainable deluded fan demands?

Thankfully these decisions will be taken by a board of sensible businessmen and voted on by a Rangers fan ownership shareholding that we will have in the near future with King & 3 Bears plus fan investment money we won't have this type of person involved in the decision making process thank god ;-)

redsox555

South side have you not read we were 7 days from being wound up by hmrc. we can have a club that is run profitably while building a team within a realistic budget to challenge for trophys but it might take a few years. that's the price we have to pay for charlatans running our club unfortunately

05 Jan 2015 13:31:28
Nobody going to throw millions at building us back it won't make money open yer eyes folk are lookin at as a business not a play thing like murray we r on our arse competing with celtic is the least of our worries the ed is right get real

OP "built banks up and sold them for profit" sounds too much like the pedigree Vladimir Romanov had when he came to Hearts and look how that ended up

05 Jan 2015 13:41:01
Ssb) re-sitting back and watching that mob win 20 in a row at the moment not guaranteed to win it this year from what I've seen the sheep are the best of a bad lot. Come on Hamilton.

Resox555

You obviously had a good new year and the alcohol is still clearly flowing within your system. Intelligent you say, I have my doubts - how much did Walter spend on players when he came back? Restricted budget my ar&e - see below and take the blue coloured specs off. Get your facts right before coming on an open forum and making a t!t of yourself.

Rangers Transfers Under Walter Smith 2007/08and 2008/09


Transfers In
Thomson Jan-07£2,000,000
Ugo EhioguJan-07£0
WeirJan-07£0
CuelarJun-07£2, 370,000
CarrolAug-07£0
Faye Aug-07£0
BroadfootAug-07£0
GowAug-07£0
BeasleyAug-07£700,000
DarchevillkeAug-07£0
Whittaker Aug-07£2,000,000
NaismithAug-07£1, 900,000
MCCullochJul-07£2, 250,000
CousinsAug-07£750,000

Spent Total 07 £11, 970,000 and the spending continued in 08

Gers09

2008/9, 2009/10 and 2010/11 we won all three leagues and the total spent and total sales just about exactly balanced approx 16million spent and 15million brought in

When you are trying to post facts try and include all the facts

Include he sales of players aswell as the purchases that way you avoid looking like a diddy again

Walter worked on the tightest budget possible on approval by our bankers TSB to work a miracle winning 3 titles

You conveniently forget to mention the fortunes he brought in by winning these titles and success in Europe bringing a 60million pounds debt down to a manageable 18million by the time he left

Get YOUR facts right before you try to be clever

redsox555

Redsox555

Below is a full breakdown of 07/08 Signings in and out. Check your nearest mirror for a diddy. Try to at least have an adult conversation without resorting to childish insults.
60 million from European run - don't make me laugh. Uefa cup not champions league. Would also check your debt level claim of £16 m.
CHECK YOUR FACTS - it only makes you look foolish.
Your original point was that Walter was restricted with his transfer budget the below proves otherwise.
I actually agree with most of your other posts- but give it a rest!

Our club is a disaster at the moment and we need to concentrate on getting rid of the board.

Rangers Transfers Under Walter Smith 2007/08and 2008/09


Transfers In Transfers Out
Thomson Jan-07£2,000,000
Ugo EhioguJan-07£0
WeirJan-07£0
CuelarJun-07£2, 370,000
CarrolAug-07£0
Faye Aug-07£0
BroadfootAug-07£0
GowAug-07£0
BeasleyAug-07£700,000
DarchevillkeAug-07£0
Whittaker Aug-07£2,000,000
NaismithAug-07£1, 900,000
MCCullochJul-07£2, 250,000
CousinsAug-07£750,000

Spent Total 07 £11, 970,000

AlexanderJan-08£0
DalyJan-08£0
WebsterJun-08£0
VelickaJul-08£1,000,000
Miller Jun-08£1, 900,000
LaffertyJun-08£3, 500,000 ---------------------------- Out HuttonJan-08£8, 700,000
BougerrhaJul-08£2, 500,000 ---------------------------- Out CuellarAug-08£7, 800,000
Davis Aug-08£3,000,000 ---------------------------- Out CousinsSep-08£3,000,000
EduAug-08£2, 500,000
MendezAug-08£3,000,000
Niguez£0

Spent Total 08 £17, 400,000

Received £19, 500,000

Spent Total 07/08 £29, 370,000

Net spend 07/08
£9, 870,000

Debt levels

2007£17Million
2008£22Million
2009£31Million
2010£27Million

05 Jan 2015 08:51:15
hopefully good news regarding robert sarver looking to invest, ideally he will take 50% and king and the 3 bears will take the other 50% and then we will be ready to rock. my worry is my fellow fans starting on him like they did with bill miller and drive him away with anti american racism and "yanks out " banners. this man could be our last chance of survival and if he turns out to be the real deal but is still driven away then I am finished with the club, it won't be mccoist or ashley or the easdales that end my interest as a fan but but my fellow supporters, we need serious investment to survive and king and the others don't have that type of wealth. last chance saloon bears, decision time. thank you. e. pierson darlington loyal

My first impression of this is it sounds a bit suspiscious to me, I have been expecting a move by Ashley/Easedales then all of a sudden up pops an offer from nowhere by a random guy we have never heard of and makes me wonder could this be it? I hope I am wrong and it all works out for the better of our club.

Wullie I agree 100%! I tried to post this last night! We need a proper investigation by King and 3 Bears into Sarver (if he is even considered as a partner) and have a legal document drawn up that Ashley has nothing to do with this offer by funding it privately, whilst Sarver appears the honest caring front man. I think Ashley being abroad at present and staying silent on the whole SFA issue is highly suspicious and this is exactly how business men like him do back door deals - think of Charles Green and the mysterious list of backers he managed to draw from round the globe which has led us to the state we are in now.
I hope he is as honest and straight talking as his background suggests but any non Rangers 'loving' business person coming in out the blue if you pardon the phrase has to be at the least vetted very closely we know what not checking a persons background cost us with "Billionaire" craig whyte!!!

redsox555

05 Jan 2015 07:25:33
For me the next Rangers manager needs to be Michael laudrup no questions asked what do fellow bears think

On a fortunę in dubai? Emirates? And the stories about his Time in swansea are not very good, not training in the rain, training methods suspect etc. although would be better than most.

Southside your posts re priceless try thinking. then typing

redsox555

04 Jan 2015 23:26:26
If Ashley gives up his share issue and keeps the rights to merchandise then we should stop the purchase of any official products. Just buy the BLACK AND RED strip.

Totally agree if we can get him out of any chance influence the board in any way or damage us in any form then starve the fat person out just buy zero products and he will have to give up the deal or renegotiate. redsox555

Careful now, Ashley is owner or has loans secured on most of our major assets. Start getting nasty and he could shut us down in a heartbeat.

He can't "shut us down" we would need funding to pay him off that is all! Are you saying that if Ashley threatens to pull loans and wants immediate payment that the newly 34% invested Bears and King will let Rangers go Admin before paying him off? That would make zero business sense apart from the fact they love our club

redsox555

Sure, and we're rolling in funding. If he calls the loans now, we're screwed.