Rangers Banter Archive July 05 2011

05 Jul 2011 22:53:16
Steven sh*ttaker on 24 grand a week. My god I don't know whether To laugh or cry, what is ally playing at, paying over the odds for an very average player. The guy below was right it open season now at rangers , everyone will be wanting more than him to sign a new contract.

And when did Whittaker or Rangers show you the contract?

05 Jul 2011 22:34:45
hi ed? can i ask why u are allowing a celtic fan to post negative messages on this page? i find it real insuilting as theres been a few times i have posted messages that havent been posted on the page, but u obviously find celtic fans distastefull posts more apealing u will probably sweep this post under the carpet to


{Ed010's Note -firstly my friend, this site is called Rangers Rumours and Banter and is here for anything related to Rangers. That includes the good, the bad and the ugly. It is not here for the sole use of Rangers fans, which is the same rule for every other club pages.

I do not think that you should find anything insulting about that but do agree that you may feel frustrated if your posts appear to be being overlooked.

If you are prepared to supply an email address with your posts, I can at least then link a post to a name and if there is a problem with the content, then I am more than willing to contact you and advise you where the problem lies. Regards Ed10

There's plenty of bluenoses on Celts forum on the wind up and it's taken in good humour.

Ed10 is correct, he's an Editor of an open, inclusive forum and is therefore obliged to publish comments that aren't offensive.

I got total pelters off G@rs fans in response to my last post and dealt with it, so dry yer eyes What have I said that's insulted you? (this will be interesting).....Miko

Not u.. the ed insuilted me when he bins peoples posts but allows we fannys like u to send posts to wind up the gers fans on here, i tottaly dont agrea with it, distastefull posts like urs shud be the posts that are binned, not the constructive ones like so many others ya get me? {Ed001's Note - oh well, perhaps you should grow up a little and not be so sensitive then? Only all you have done here is post crap, this would have been binned if I wasn't just pointing out that it is crap so you will know in future. You have made no point, there is no humour involved, nothing but whines about posts being deleted. If this is what you have posted in the past what do you expect?}

Hehe, well said Ed10, at least you run this forum with integrity, you should be commended for that.

And to this chap, how can you not be referring to me? You said my posts were distasteful, which would imply you're offended by my comments, eh? So tell me, what's distasteful/offensive about my posts?

Yep, I am on the wind-up sometimes, however it's part of the Old Firm rivalry.....so DRY YER EYES....Miko

05 Jul 2011 22:17:54
Ed what chance of Fergie coming back on the cheap? Great player would love him back where he belongs


{Ed010's Note -not a chance in my opinion. Newcastle are interested and I wouldn't be surprised if Aston Villa don't make a move as well

She seems happy enough in the "Black-eyed Peas "

05 Jul 2011 21:22:38
Hehe, you guys took the bait, PMSL. In the case of insolvency, this is a real possibility. You seem to think that the debt is paid off - wrong

Whyte has taken on the debt, and will write off the debt, providing the club wins its HMRC case. Rangers are accused of off-shore supplementary payments to players who are/were employed and work(ed) in this country - this is called tax evasion

Make no mistake, this investigation is ongoing with serious consequences for your club. Rangers are in a dire financial state and there's no way they'll win their case, if there was a loophole that enabled them to make these off-shore payments then why didn't they consult HMRC in the first instance to clarify this was indeed legal??? Premiership clubs are watching this case with baited breath

This is a result of years of irresponsible spending which Murray has to be held accountable for, now he's f*cked off clicking his heels and left this with some guy called Whyte. Makes a mockery of Rangers' 9 in a row, does it not?

He'll demolish Ibrox for real estate and the Gers can ground share with the Thistle

Enjoy Ladies x
Miko

Dont worry Miko all us gers fans will just do what all the seltik fans did and donate our meccano sets to the cause and build a stadium just like yours ya clown

Tam-Sir 1873 doesnt care for seltik fans and there comfort blanketssss...

And all the while we'll be pumpin your mob, just like we've been doin for the last 3 years i CAN NOT WAIT

Namba

Hahaha miko get a life and worry about the runners up portsmouth won a similar case a couple of years ago bye bye now

Guys, you're tying up existing first teamers on mega deals which is eating up your £5m budget for the year.

Portsmouth did not win a similar case against HMRC, Portsmouth moved into administration, which HMRC accepted.....same potenetial scenario for your club sweetheart xx....Miko

Some people have no idea about tax evasion and i am one of them , but i would expect this is not a problem for Rangers but if true will be a problem for the accountancy company and there again they are insured for situations like this and for the director that signs off the accounts

Haha, aye tell that to Portsmouth....Miko

Eh? There's no logic in that

05 Jul 2011 19:48:55
looks like jaun manuel ortiz has signed....on his wiki page. anyone have a scooby what the boy plays like?


{Ed010's Note -don't use Wiki as a source of "confirmation" my friend. It can be edited by anyone at any time.

05 Jul 2011 19:32:33
'To the septic fan that say's all ortiz has done is score 1 goal and nobody has heard of him, I would like to ask did he know anythin about kayal or izzy wots his name before they came to his club?'

Can't help myself but I keep going back to Rafael Shi'te. (I'm sure that's close to the right spelling lol) Didn't they sign him on the strength of a video tape or summit?

Just to let you know Miko put out the bait and caught 32 of you including ed0010 haha timalloy are you man enough to post this ed0010 on our site its called good humour on yours you retort with bile


{Ed010's Note -my friend, we all knew that Miko was at the wind up, including Ed010, that is why there were 32 replies, we love a bit of banter on here.

I will however give Miko his due, he did send in a post that could be published. I just wish there were more posts from Celtic fans like Miko and yourself. You are welcome at any time. Regards

05 Jul 2011 18:59:13
alright eds, good job guys.was wonderin if you fellas had any idea where David Vaughan ended up, if anywhere yet?
W.A.T.P. R.T.I.D.
drumlad.


{Ed010's Note -this is the latest info for Vaughan

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2011/07/05/albion-sweat-on-david-vaughans-decision/

Cheers mate.wonder if we offered him a contract or if his wage demands knocked that one on the head straight away?

05 Jul 2011 18:28:05
Alright Ed. Hearing that Bellamy might be up to sign for Celtic and reading a few guys responses on here. Lot of Gers fans saying he's rubbish, he's past it, he's this and that, he done nothing last time. When the truth, in my opinion, is that Bellamy is a very good footballer. He done very well last time and scored a good goal at Ibrox also. While I agree that we should not be scared of Bellamy (or anyone else Celtic sign), I think anyone who ise honest would accept that he will pose a threat to us and the rest of the SPL and that he would be a major coup for Celtic.

What's your thoughts Ed?


{Ed010's Note - I have read several reports that several EPL clubs are interested in signing him on a permanent basis but are baulking at his £80k-£90k a week wages. Manchester City are desperate to get rid of Bellamy and have reduced their valuation to around £4m, to take his wages into account. What is for sure, is that Man City will not pay a single penny towards any of his wages should any club offer to take him on loan, so if Celtic or any other club agree to do so, that is a huge drain on any club's finances and in particular, a club in the SPL.

Craig Bellamy's greatest attribute throughout his career to date, has been his blistering pace but he seems to have lost that extra yard, over the last couple of seasons. In the SPL, he would still be considered as "rapid", so with that in mind, any player with pace is always a good addition to any squad. I have no doubt that if Bellamy were to regain his fitness, he would score a few goals over the season.

Now that I answered your question, are you a Celtic supporter in disguise ? lol

05 Jul 2011 18:07:01
The champs in for mile jedinak...oz internationalist..on a free. Sky sports.

05 Jul 2011 15:46:39
Just a wee question to all the people that have posted a rumour then FACT after it... where are all of these FACT signings? Or even better, "He's signing tomorrow FACT"..just stop it. Also, how did the Santa Cruz rumour come about? Just because he doesnt get a game means he's going to us on loan? I've never seen anything anywhere to say we are linked with him. The only people that know who our shortlist are the board, not your GF's uncle that played Golf with Martin Bain 3 years ago.

05 Jul 2011 15:29:55
All this talk of deals between Spurs and the Gers is making me nervous. I would avoid anything to do with Arry' Red when it comes to deals. As a Rangers supporter and a follower of Pompey I'm well aware of the dodgey dealings that float around this geezer. He has made a lot of signings and sales of players over the years, a number of which have been rumoured to be a bit suspect. He's always there when financial scandles in football are concerned and has also had a bit of form with the taxman too. It wasn't so long ago (2007) that Rangers got dragged into unsavoury stories when we signed Amdy Faye from the toon who had went there from Portsmouth when Arry was in charge. Turned out the original transfer from Pompey to the Toon was less than transparent. I'd sooner get palyers from Del Boy and Rodney to be honest.

05 Jul 2011 15:22:01
I am gutted that we have offered Whittaker a 4th Contract which he has signed. Fair enough if he was offered peanuts but the 3rd offer was £20k which he rejected
He is an average player who is versatile that equates to £10-15k max If we offered £12k which was double and he rejected it he should get tae F***.
He is hardly a Jelavic, McGregor or Steve Davis so to act like he is during negotiations riles me - he got skinned time and again from izadaftie and davie templeton to name a cpl
I hope this new boy (Ortiz) who can play either side and as a wing back or winger relegates s**ttaker to bench and we punt him in January for a cpl of million.
Ideally I would have signed Ortiz as a replacement for £500k and swapped s**ttaker with Kenny Miller who would run through brick walls for club and would set up all sorts for Jela not to mention the old firm goals he brings, forget about Badwillie and use cash saved to get King Carlos back.
Gwak1873

Name some more that skinned him u can't, yes he was skinned a few times but he also set up alot of chances with his runs forward and also he had a few bad games so what davis was s**te apart from the last 7 or 8 games of season but u would give him a new contract so where's the difference and I have already said on this site SUPER ALLY gave him his new contract if he didn't think he was worth it he would have sold him or let him see out his contract so SUPER ALLY must like him as a player so I will trust him rather than u

The first 2 contract offers he turned down was due to money and 3yr contract. The other time he turned it down was down to how many years that was on offer.

Gwak1873 everything is a matter of opinion i agree 16grand a week player but coistys looking at players to be versatile ie playing different positions he can do that and all the players that come in this year imo will be able to do that 4iar my friend but it will be close again if
unless we rotate players early doors of league & sfa cup big rab by the way

05 Jul 2011 12:42:05
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05 Jul 2011 08:37:46
Bears, can I please have a list of reasons and any answers as to why Timothy is ALWAYS on here, always trying to peek through our window and always looking over his shoulder at us, bringing down our club and players ? remember ed, this is just banter, just a love of RANGERS here..... Rangers 'til I die

I for one welcome them over here. As long as the banter is light hearted and no nastiness/bigotry.

I have had a look on their site too on a dull day

Whats wrong with checking out the opposition. We welcome the chase remember

What they gonna say to hurt us

OOOOH your still skint - Yeah we're still champions too

The taxman is coming to get you - Boo hoo Its a sad day when the taxman is scarier than every other club in the country

You have a small squad - As oppose to a great depth of people who dont know how to win when it matters?

If you cant handle a bit of banter and slagging it is you who should not enter into public forums

Bluegenius - Welcoming the banter and the chase

Calm doon Bluegenius, did the question not spark some banter ? , as it was intended. I just can't understand the Dhims obsession, and it is obsessive behaviour toward us. take a chill pill. rangers 'til I die

05 Jul 2011 11:57:09
Anyone know how much we're paying for the spanish dude?

500,000 im hearing

Fee is believed to be in region of £500,000 according to various sources

Only figure Ive seen mentioned is 500k

Bluegenius

500k m8 good player

How do you now he's a good player? watch lots of spanish second division football? where he has spent most of his career

05 Jul 2011 11:19:22
danny hated playing for the gers, he is a diehard celtic fan and couldnt have got away from ibrox quick enough. There is not even the slightest chance he is coming back.

Wot a load of p**h wilson stated earlier in the year when he was linked to the dark side that he would never play for them as he had spent so long with rangers he may well have supported them as a youngster but things change

Load of rubbish. There's a picture I have on my wall when big Jig scored the equaliser at Celtic Park last January, Danny Wilson is right behind him, jumping all over him and the look of joy on his face there dismisses this garbage you've written. The lad had the chance to move to a stronger team, making more money and training with and playing against better players which will improve him no end. So if that makes him a sell out that couldn't get away quick enough in your eyes then I ask this, wouldn't you have done the same? Course you would. I wished him all the best at the time and still do. He will go on to be a great centre half for Liverpool and Scotland, and if that means coming back to Ibrox for a year, I'd be delighted. What you think ed?


{Ed010's Note -in the modern era, most footballers go where the money is, regardless of who they or their family support or supported. Danny Wilson had the chance to move to Liverpool and he decided that it was the right move for him. Given the chance to return to Rangers, I would think that he would jump at the chance. For anyone to suggest that he wouldn't, simply because he is a Celtic fan, is totally naive in my opinion and they don't undertand the mentality of the modern day footballer. If Danny Wilson was such a "diehard" Celtic fan, he would never have agreed to join Rangers, let alone play for us, if he was filled with such deep rooted hatred. The fact that he did, suggests that the arguement is deeply flawed.

Most players nowadays supported massive wages fc when they were kids

05 Jul 2011 08:05:39
As i said a couple of weeks ago, Rangers had signings in mind & the players who were mentioned was just a smokescreen. We put in low bids for certain players knowing the bids would never be accepted but we were actually looking at other players anyway.

Smokescreen?these guys where in for signing talks in the hope of signing them on low wages, it simply never worked.

And what position do you hold on the Ibrox board of directors.

Why would Rangers waste their time with such nonsense.

Can't understand why someone has disagreed, Rangers have made names public probably to see if Celtic would be interested in those players aswell & guess what, they were, lol.

05 Jul 2011 03:40:27
Ed, do you think Kyle walker will be a first team player next season because he looks a great young prospect.

If he was available for a loan like last season at villa and qpr he would be a great signing.

Also I thought if he was a first team regular is there any chance we could get Hutton back. I heard rumours that he fell out with redknapp and that they were looking to sell but still owed us some money

TrueBlue96


{Ed010's Note -I agree with you about Kyle Walker being a good loan signing but given his performances on loan at Aston Villa, I'm sure there will be many suitors in the EPL, as well as the Championship.

The Spurs editor was telling me earlier, that he thought that Alan Hutton, was Rangers bound. No official source on that view but just the word on the street as it were. Personally, I think wages could be a stumbling block, so if it were a possibility, then Hutton would need to come for his "love" of Rangers and not for the "love" of money.

Cheers Ed, hope this is true. Do you think Livermore and Khumalo would be good addition?
I just feel that there are better players out there to loan from the EPL. Is it true that rangers tried to sign Stuttgart last year because i'm sure I read Durrant say something about this in the paper.

TrueBlue96


{Ed010's Note -if I may refer to the conversation with the Spurs Ed, he was not overly impressed with either of them. He thinks that Livermore is the better prospect but who really knows, the Khumalo guy could turn out to be another Kyle Bartley. In reality, I just don't know if either of them, are so much better than the youth players that we already have. I do think that there are better "loan" targets out there but as always, getting them here may represent more of a problem.

Would cancel out a move for big Bartley, imo, and that would be a shame. I think we can afford to wait until he proves his fitness, and then rely on Arsene giving us the green light. Better the devil you know, ed ?


{Ed010's Note -as I said my friend, it's only the word on the street around White Hart Lane and may just be like most other rumours, without substance. Personally, even if Hutton did come, I could still see a place for Kyle Bartley in our team.

05 Jul 2011 01:33:41
Rangers could do a lot worse than take Gary Kenneth and play him alongside big Davie Weir, so that the Big Yin could iron out GK's deficiencies. Get shot of Boughie and release some cash for Goodwillie and get Davis a decent 5 year contract.
Should also have bid for Shane Long from Reading or Mickaill-Smith to replace that tube Lafferty alongside Jelavic.
My team would be:
Macgregor
Edu (def. not a midfielder - lacks pace&awareness)
Kenneth
Weir
Papac
Whittaker (obviously a midfielder wasted at R/B)
Davis
Naismith
Long/Mickaill-Smith
Jelavic
Wylde

Back-ups
Alexander (G/K)
Foster
Ness
Fleck
McCulloch

Also need to think long-term about LB - Papac wont last forever.

I see where you are coming from about Kenneth but how slow would our defence be and to be honest I think Kenneth just isn't good enough. A better player IMO is Mark Reynolds.
Getting rid of Bougherra would b a mistake IMO. Our squad is small enough without selling our best cb. I say let him run his contract out or see if he makes a u turn and signs a new contract.
Shane long is estimated at around £10 by reading and CMS has signed fog Brighton.
Also I'm sick of people slagging off Lafferty. He's a diehard ger and gives 100% every game. He was looking great up top with Jelavic because that's where he actually plays. I agree with your point about Edu but I would like to see us give Cole a chance as he looks a great young talent. Also Whittaker cannot defend and is slightly better at going forward. Great shout about Naismith in the middle of the park, he would be perfect alongside Davis.

TrueBlue96

Garry Kennith. You must be taking the piss. He is utter rubbish and the only reason he is playing is because his size. I played against him a number of times when I was playing football and he was junk then and not much better now. He is simply a big clubber and any decent forward would take him to the cleaners. You must be one of the ones who is supporting the Wallace move also.

Whittaker wasted at rb ur having a laugh he is shi#e he can defend

Gary Kenneth Are you seriously havin' a laugh? He is just as bad as Zander Diamond and possibly a bigger die-hard Timothy than Zander Diamond. And Makail-Smith has signed for Brighton and Shane Long is a dumpling who had one good season. You should do some research before you post gumph Timothy

Garry fecking Kenneth :D hope he signs for you lot and no chance of mckail smith who signed for brighton and long who is valued at 7 million :D:D

04 Jul 2011 22:50:30
Rangers should sign this guy, Daryl 'Messi' Murphy even better goal Celtic vs Dundee United

www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dG9FGBo2U&feature=related

Daryl Murphy would not want to play for the Champs. He would be best staying at the Chumps and slogging it out for one of the cups...

That you lot are so happy to win?

04 Jul 2011 22:58:42
us bears were very rightly worried at the lack of transfer movement but by the fact that we knew nothing of the transfer until he arrived at murray park would suggest that rangers are doing a lot behind the scenes, remember, newspapers don't know everything.

the future is bright, the future is whyte
WATP