Rangers Banter Archive March 05 2017

05 Mar 2017 20:24:18
I have to say I still like what Murty has to say and how he says it. I would keep him in charge until the end of the season. There is a chance of a wee run, big challenge I know next week but it could unsettle us again with a new man.

If a new man comes in I hope Murty has a big role to play. I love how he is conscious of getting Gilmour involved also. Thinking about the bigger picture and perhaps keeping the vultures away.

Good honest approach to his business. Not the stale crap that Warburton came out with week on week.

05 Mar 2017 16:17:19
if anyone is happy for ashley to take over the are off there head. twoyears ago money was being paid out on fat cats in the boardroom bonus while the team struggled on the park. he gave us 5 players from newcastle only 1 played any all others were injured or ill we had people running the club who only had intrest in money and that profit was being taken from the club. it was a starting point for our club which should have started 5 years ago but due to charles green the deals with ashley the club has struggled to go without revenue from merchandise with a club of this size so if he took over would he change the deal not at all so the club would still not recieve any money
i know they say times a healer but surely not makes people this stupid.

05 Mar 2017 16:36:23
Ashley does not have a problem with Rangers, it's King he has an issue with. Would things improve if King was removed?

05 Mar 2017 16:56:02
LMFAO really

05 Mar 2017 17:26:00
Enough with the ashely pish how can any bear even consider this guy he's a disgusting human being with no respect for any other human being mans a rat

05 Mar 2017 17:31:32
I know who I would trust the most between Dave King and mike Ashley and it ain't the fat man.

05 Mar 2017 18:19:19
I have no idea if King is the right man. What I do know is things have improved in the 2 tears since he took over. Ashley is the one who got us tied to these onerous and unfair deals. If he gets control I will not renew my 19 year season ticket, which I know is trivial compared to a real bear who posted earlier with his 50 year + ticket.

05 Mar 2017 19:27:15
Really you would trust the fat man enough said who pays all his workers peanuts zero hour contracts wake up fat mans not the answer

05 Mar 2017 19:49:19
In an ideal world we wouldn't have either of them anywhere near the Club. Ashley is a Businessman but has showed no intent when he was in Power at Rangers previously to suggest that he would do what is needed to get us back on top; King is full of bullshit and to date has not invested the necessary funds in the playing side of the club. He has also done more to aggravate the situation with Ashley than to resolve matters.

What we need is a consortium or someone that McColl that has the money and the intent to get us back to the top of Scottish Football.

05 Mar 2017 19:49:20
Well said stewarty

05 Mar 2017 17:08:40
You're a smart guy, Gor. What do you think?

05 Mar 2017 18:01:30
Ashley has had his chance, he only interested in lining his pockets! Not to mention the tit for tat court cases and agms etc!, he can do one.

05 Mar 2017 18:15:45
Its like asking what pinkie nail you want a needle stuck behind first.

05 Mar 2017 18:35:00
Rangers will go bust again within the next 24 months. If they do not qualify for european football this season why would the 3 bears continue to give them money. Money they will never get back. Its Ashley or bust.

07 Mar 2017 13:20:51
If you consider what has happened at Newcastle - relegated, then given a substantial parachute payment, Ashley then invests in team who look certs to be promoted back to EPL (another substantial payment) . Meanwhile the team are successful, 50,000+ happy fans turn up every week (more cash and less hostility) and they are never off the TV (along with Sports Direct's advertising hoardings) . Some might say its a cunning business strategy

05 Mar 2017 10:50:31
Just an idea on the Asswipe take over bid?
If he did get control would it not stop all the legal fights currently going on against him and his cronies?
Just maybe cheaper to try and buy us out than face the wrath of the law.
Dounebear.

05 Mar 2017 12:01:07
I can see where you are going with this but you have to wonder how life would be with a man willing to starve a club of revenue, out of personal spite, in control?

The guy has contracts which have had a massive part in causing our funding situation.

It's a bit like me taking chocolate from my kids, then feeling sorry for them and offering to buy as many bars as they want? Makes no sense.

He obviously sees a chance to grab control of our club and supporters money.

I wouldn't be happy with him having control of our finances and ultimately our club.

05 Mar 2017 13:20:27
I don't personally want This guy back however I do believe that we are suffering because of the personal vendetta between Ashley and King and I don't have much respect for him either. He is full of bullshit and empty promises!

05 Mar 2017 13:46:33
Who, s to say he would not have invested money before King got involved.

05 Mar 2017 13:17:50
Dont know f it would be cheaper him but Rangers (under Ashley) could agree to drop all legals against anyone.

Does any supporter think we would be better off as a club under Ashley?
Could we ever trust a transfer deal or any contract again?

If he puts £ 30M into the club and get the ground, Auchenhowie and the opportunity to sell any NFC donkey to us for £ 25M he would soon recover his outlay and we would be dust.

05 Mar 2017 13:23:37
Ashley can only get more shares if somebody is willing to sell.

His action by saying he wants control will force hands by others to invest more cash, increasing our chances of progressing to the europa league group stages, therefore giving sports direct the coverage in europe that he wants.

Its more like a game of chess with these 2 at the moment.

05 Mar 2017 14:01:34
RAFBOB
I agree with your post and I do believe Ashley is being petty and vindictive as he is not used to getting what he wants and DK stopped that.

05 Mar 2017 14:56:31
King is not much better, making promises that he can't or won't keep. Personally I would prefer to see both of them gone and a new Regime with serious investment, at the club

05 Mar 2017 07:13:41
Please say this is a wind up Ashley coming back? Whether is the right man to take us forward or not Ashley certainly isn't he has proved that already surely people don't believe he is good for this club, his interests are in Newcastle he is about to get them promoted and get premier league money back

05 Mar 2017 10:57:13
I know this will be a unpopular post but just opinion, I would rather have a wealthy Ashley, that could bankroll the type of transfers needed to stop 10 in a row . Than anonymous King who barely has spent. And living off soft loans like we're on the dole.

We could at least get a nomad again. We're stuck with him anyway at least this way we could have a chance of stopping 10 in a row. This Rangers team and board is unbareable.

If he could maybe re- evelute the merchandise deal as a sign of goodwill and really give us a transfer kitty.
Then I would rather have him. He just doesn't want to work with King, which I can't really see what he does or brings to the table?

Again this is just a alternative opinion.

05 Mar 2017 11:37:08
I do understand people wanting someone different but that man was poison all you have to do is look at Newcastle he has no interest in the club only in his own pocket, I live down south and the amount of Newcastle fans that were begging Ashley to leave and buy into us was embarrassing, I'm not saying king is the man to save us but I do believe he is better than the man who kicked us while we were down and took advantage of us when we needed help just my opinion on it

05 Mar 2017 12:09:31
It wouldn't have to be Ashley, but I just don't think it should be king either, King stating that he has spent vast amounts like 18 million I think he said.

I'm sorry but 18 million is not enough, even if true!
He needs to sell us on to someone with some clout or my worst fears will come true and we're going to struggle for years!

05 Mar 2017 12:49:43
Yeah I don't think king has any intention of being a long term owner of rangers from what I read about kings takeover was he wanted to take control of the club and over 4 years invest 30 million to sort the club out then sell us on to investors he did say at the agm that he has experienced problems that were unexpected and things has cost more than expected I. e the details of the Ashley contracts, repairs to Murray park and probably other things I wouldn't even begin to understand
I do think king is trying to help but can also understand the counter arguments against him, just think this link with Ashley is another embarrassing story for us to be mocked and ridiculed about

05 Mar 2017 13:21:35
Good point, what is kings long term plan?
I don't believe neither him or the other directors at this moment have the cash to take us were we need to be!

I mean he has been in since 2015 - and tbh I have been completely underwhelmed.
And worried more than anything . The first team are so poor they can barely compete with Aberdeen never mind Celtic.
And I bet the transfers in the summer will either be free transfers or bargain basement stuff. And if we won't a competitive team we're going to have spend a few quid especially on 2 decent defenders.

05 Mar 2017 11:27:30
I thought Ashley couldn't own more than 10 percent of the shares? Did the SFA not rule on that?

05 Mar 2017 12:09:29
He is maybe the only option. bringing in a new manager and a DOF won't make up a 33 point difference. The club needs serious investment or wait 5 years to build from the bottom up. In that time Celtic will have made 100mill in profits and be out of sight. Everyone has a choice. Back Ashley or stick with King. Stop hoping that a new manager is the answer. Need to start with a new board of directors then the rest will follow.

05 Mar 2017 13:07:44
If he owns the club and bankrolls transfers etc he can do what he likes with the merchandising deal. The merchandising deal on its own isn't significant enough to fund what Rangers need. Needs significantly more than that.

05 Mar 2017 13:05:33
Jeseca by the sounds of it if Craig Whyte offered money you would take it.
This man has raped rangers for money and you would take him back?

05 Mar 2017 14:40:25
From what I have read might be wrong or someone may know better but from what I read king plans on stabilising the club getting rid of people who have damaged the club (Ashley) and then when we are stabilised selling majority shares to someone who can offer "heavy investment"

I think Celtic went through a time like this aswell thou where they weren't spending money on players to try compete with us but they built the sorta structure they have now

I do agree the gap between us and them is unacceptable but it is expected maybe not by this much but let's remember warburton did bring in 11 players and almost all weren't suited to the way he wanted to play football and haven't cut the mustard when given a chance

Haliday was pushed as mr rangers and unfortunately he isn't good enough to fill that role I wish he was think he has the passion to be that man but not the ability

05 Mar 2017 14:52:36
Ashley won't bankroll anything, all this saying he will put 30mill + 30 mill into the club is nonsense
he just turns it into club debt and makes it look like he's the one spending.
newcastle are in an obscene amount of debt but because it looks like he's taken it on its not.
they will get 100mill for promotion and better coverage of his brand and the same will go for us. he'll use us for a marketing tool and no more.
hes looking if he gets full control that people will now buy the merchandise as it looks like he's now intrested in us.
50,000 + supporters buying tops/ kits. etc = millions all for him

05 Mar 2017 15:24:49
Stunngun all I'm saying is we need serious cash, of course it matters who it is and the conditions of there actions.
But King has not put up yet, when he said he would.
And at a time when we're looking for something positive to grab on too. I fear we're just to far behind now.
We need money, more than a supposed poxy -18 million.
You actually think that's going to go anywhere, make us better. Challenging for titles. NO, NO NO

06 Mar 2017 13:34:35
GArner should have saved his tackle for Scott Brown next sunday

05 Mar 2017 05:15:10
I see papers are reporting that Ashley is back in the frame with a takeover bid. Right or wrong then he needs to be given a platform to discuss his plans for the club should it be accepted. If he genuinely is interested he should address the retail contract and clarify for the fans. I am desperate to buy this seasons kit but refuse due to the nature of that contract. It is clear that we need significant financial investment to the first team if we are to compete with Celtic and the European stage, I am not saying MA is the man to do it but with his apparent interest I am hoping that it may pull other interested parties out in the open. I am not condoning his role in the last couple of years but I am willing to listen to what he has to say, if this is true.

05 Mar 2017 08:55:09
Not this again Ashley took away the soul of the club when him and his gangsters where in charge last time. people have short memory's. he's promised to invest if you let me back in mans a shyster don't let him any where near doesn't do anything if there not something in it for him

05 Mar 2017 13:02:47
Again our club is made to look like a complete joke with Ashley now wanting back with money to invest, I just think it's Ashley playing games with Dave King as they clearly don't get on in the slightest, so come on Dave it's your move now step up and tell us all what you plan on doing with our club, we deserve the right to know!

05 Mar 2017 15:36:37
I agree with both comments and as I said in my original post I believe this will be a stimulus for other investors to come forward. We have only ever heard noise come from DK about MA, maybe it is time for MA to come forward and say why now.

05 Mar 2017 20:04:08
Is there any one out there that would invest in the club and leave King as Chairman, personally I doubt it!

05 Mar 2017 02:39:08
We are now where near celtic unfortunately. But todays result proves we can do well. Our two loan players hyndman (what a player he has been since he joined) and toral who had a great game today. Can make the difference in big games (and today was a big game) its a shame garner is suspended for the old firm as I think he could do a job. The best we can hope for is a draw? And a good performance? If we do that and get a decent manager in next season? Then why can't we challenge for the league? Dembelle will be away. and big brenda will stay for another season at most. And what is the chance of them signing another dembelle for £500,000? Nae chance. Next season will be closer. We can only hope. Keep believing! Big marv.

05 Mar 2017 06:21:35
Dunoonbluebear they don't need to buy another dembele for £500,000 if he goes. you forget they have the money to buy a striker for x millions if need be. People laughed on here at them spending 3.5 million on a nobody from Aston villa ( sinclair) 17 goals later and excellent performances shows what you get for that money. You say a new manager will have us close . not without a clear out and new players which we cannot afford as I said to you on the celtic posts take off the blue specs and see where we are and how far we have to go to be close and that's without them strengthening which they will. they paid millions for a young guy in Jan and he is a future project if we spend anything he has got to be good enough to walk into the team and make a big big impact and you don't get that with the money we can spend

05 Mar 2017 11:01:08
Let's face it no one can mock any team buying a player for) £500k and potentially selling for £40m especially in Scotland that money will transform that team and last for years plus for the rest of the teams maybe we can sell our own players for a higher price, remember gattuso leaving we only got £2.5m within a couple of months he was £8m and that was because he played in Scotland and no one rated us plus they knew we need cash so there was no leverage for us to get more, so when I see what is happening at celtic with dembele only the most bitter or stupid would not see that as one of if not the greatest bits of transfer business in our country. If we signed the guy and could make that cash we would be wetting ourselves at the thought could you imagine the bull rumours of what we could do with that cash. Me I'm an optimist and I hope that maybe the next manager can find a few gems, maybe get more out of the team and guys like mackay, windass, rossiter and young Gilmour will become more valuable as our league will be in the shop window and with a higher profile. Players like snodgrass who hasn't just held his own but been a standout for his team over the last few years and even though Burke never played here he is still Scottish and they will make people maybe take an interest in buying our players. It will be a long road but selling players for decent cash if the way ahead for Scottish football. The one thing that holds us back is the anti old firm stance from other clubs and especially the media, we have our troubles but when celtic had theirs the media used to treat them just as bad, the BBC in Scotland would have Peter Pawlett and the likes rated higher than dembele, mackay or Gilmour and that kind of nonsense is one of the things that devalues our players that and their hatred of successful teams.

05 Mar 2017 09:56:42
JohnnyG,

If you look at the clubs Sinclair has played for he is hardly a nobody.

05 Mar 2017 14:38:16
Stewie25 the point I was making was on here people laughed at celtic spending big money on sinclair and big wages on dembele where as we were picking up gems via the hats contacts and the joke was we will destroy them with a team costing less than 1 of their players. well I am saying the joke was on us. Rossiter was wanted by epl teams but we got him for 250,000 bargain. played 3 games who the hell wanted him? All our bargain signings are just that. 1.8 my for garner 7 goals not a justifiable return. these players either have to improve drastically or move on but who will pay the money for them? Where do we get the money for replacements?

05 Mar 2017 02:20:08
I see claims of Ashley coming back in and buying the club out right and pumping money in for transfers. As a fan I don't want him near our club. If he cared so much why is he screwing us with the merchandise? Don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I know King isn't honest but he's better than Ashley.

05 Mar 2017 12:03:24
i agree with what your saying remember the state of ibrox and murray park and all the staff thatt was payed off with Ashley's cronnies
maybe just maybe Ashley being interested might get king and the board to start spending some serious cash because if they don't they know Ashley won't go away

05 Mar 2017 11:37:51
Your right Mathew94 King isn't honest