Rangers Banter Archive September 05 2012

05 Sep 2012 22:01:18
Do yous wounded bears think sallys played a blinder here with his shares from greene?as if he wasnt on the ebt list, he must have been royaly pi$$ed off that so many made millions,&he being superally never got nothing,so hes making sure hes got his nest egg,when all goes pear shaped????stevo..(mind its a banter page!)

It is a banter page and you know that it is so why are you on it posting absolute drivel?
P.O.B.

Lets be honest ally has enough money, he has stuck through the toughest time in our history, could of walked at any point he is a rangers man ....... people say he aint the best manager maybe not but i tell u what that diving header he scored against u lot will live with me forever and the way he has stuck with us.
craig+babybear

P.O.B your right up for a fight son, chill out.......it's a banter page!

Soon as the mention of EBT's come up you go ape at everyone! It was David Murray and that dodgy Porn star that thought them up mate! Not Celtic

Scottish clubs, whether SPL or SFL, didn't kill your club Whyte and D&P did. Stop blaming the world for your own probs.

Be happy you've got a club to follow, in the same stadium with the same strips.

If Celtic fans wanna come on here for "the craic" banter wae them mate, don't bite their noses off.

You'll be back, unlike Third Lanark, Claydebank, Aidrieonians!

DazzaBhoy (Champs 2012-)

Here dazza u.better believe we will be back to bite yous.in the arse

I don't doubt Newco will challenge us in afew years time. But your friend POB needs a wee lie down like!

DazzaBHoy

Lolol the only time newco will challenge celtic Is in the masters

Lenny

Lenny lol how can we play you in masters were a new team we don't have any masters according to that assumption but I must admit I love a Celtic fan who contradicts himself

Bring back the Tennent's Sixes!

DazzaBhoy (Champions 2012-)

05 Sep 2012 20:55:48
if rangers win the 3 rd,then 2nd,then1st division, then big league. 4 years on the trotsky.I wonder if the top 4leagues have been won in a row, in uk or abroad by anyone. Ii think wimbledon may have won 3,or at least got promoted 3 times. not the top league though. anyone know?

If they don't win 3rd, 2nd and 1st, it'll be an embarrassment. With the amount of money spent on the squad it'll be an expectation to win them and not much to gloat about, given the alternative.

This was posted last night also by an untagged poster.
Are you trying again since nobody bit?
P.O.B.

Nobody has done it and nobody is going to do it.even though your embargo was suspended because you were crying you never had a team to compete against part timers.so you will never go a full season without being allowed to buy players.always feeling the victim but have everyone bending over backwards .

Nobody bit......cause no-one cares if you win three successive leagues.....with the squad you have you should be winning the 1st 2nd and 3rd!

DazzaBhoy

@3. Celtic fans accusing us of being victims......you're having a laugh surely.

@4
yea just as you should be top of the SPL after all your Manager reckons you can compete with Barca the Difference in class between the Celtic squad and the rest of the Spl dross is about the same as the Rangers squad and the rest of the Sfl 3


Lochaber Bear

Eye test for Dazza, the OP clearly stated four titles in a row...not three.

7) I dont need an eyetest son, you aint winning the SPL when you first come up,,,,,of that i'm 125% positive

DazzaBhoy

@8. How do you know we won't win then? No doubt your chairman (A.K.A - Head of the SFA)will make sure of that.

By the time you are, finally back in the SPl (unless your going to boycott the SPL altogrhter) Celtic will have had the opportunity to compete inthree/four successive Champions League campaigns......that means we could bring in £25m a year. Our younger players will be more experienced and we'll be able, with the help of John Park) to unearth new gems.

Go to any bookies and ask them if Newco will win the 3rd, then 2nd, then 1st, then SPL and tell me what odds he gives you! Bet he just laughs at you!

DazzaBhoy

Dazzabhoy he's a bookie and a professional he will do the figures give you a price then take your money. The only people who laugh are ignorant Celtic fans just because you don't want it to happen it doesn't mean it won't. Yes you are right Celtic will have made money from the cl but this money will only be used to keep debt down and pay your massive wage bill not to buy super players you are now a selling club end of. Now I know you will laugh at this cause your ignorant rangers will only bring in free signings or players up to a value of a mill till we get back to the spl then cg says there will be a war chest of 30/40 mil to build a team capable of winning the spl

Great post. i think we have every chance. we have signed not bad players even in the 3rd division in a couple of years back im spl, we will have more and better. i agree we will win spl in four years, if only through hate of all the other clubs,for puting the boot in. in 5 years we will be flying in champs league.minimum quarter finals

Looked this up on google. and didnt get a definative. as far as i can see tho, mo one has worked there way through 4leagues, winning all including premier. so i think as usual we will be setting a new world record when it happens. we will be back bigger and better

11) I appreciate how a bookies run young man. How exactly are we ignorant? My brain tells me that when you have been promoted to the SPL Celtic will have five or six new players brought through by John Park. The players we have now may be gone (for way more than purchased). In selling Ki we have got rid of most of our debt, which is underwritten by Desmont anyway! Your mob only got rid of your debt by liquidating RFC!

Where is this warchest coming from? Tell me one man prepared to put SERIOUS money into Scottish Football these days? Anyone?

Desmont Dermond has 1.35billion yet won't throw money at Celtic as it aint worth it for what you get back......and David Murray attempted it and killed RFC!

DazzaBhoy (Champions 2012-)

Wait a minute here, just noticed i missed this epic post! Wait for it "5 years we will be flying in champs league.minimum quarter finals"!

Lets take a minute to think about that, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man United, Man City, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Bayern Munich must be shacking in their boots......Newco rangers are coming in 5 years! Will Real, Barce, Inter be able to cope!

Your needing to give up the glue sniffing, alcohol or class A drugs!

DazzaBhoy

Dazzabhoy I never said it would definetley happen I said it could your working on the assumption it can't I don't know you don't know no one knows let's wait and see

05 Sep 2012 19:08:14
hope scotland lose all their games thats the only way to get rid of 2 face levein the mans a loser

C'mon lads stop this crap about us not supporting Scotland.I have supported the Gers and Scotland all my life and have seen many great Rangers players playing for their country and manage and captain them as well. As I have stated before it not the SPL or SFA that put us where we are but SDM and whyte

It's not crap.... its up to the individual to decide, and i hope Scotland get well pumped in every game.

I am rangers supporter will support scotland but think levein is useless

@1. But it WAS the SPL/SFA who put the boot in. I've never been one before not to support my country, but now i couldn't care less. I will not purchase a ticket or financially benefit the SFA in any way.

Well said that man...col

05 Sep 2012 15:35:00
Must say, as a season ticket holding rangers fan (and a member of the Tartan Army), I am really disappointed with all the anti National Team chat on here. I love the gers, but we were caught doing wrong and were therefor punished. It has absolutely nothing to do with the 11 men on the park in Scotland Jersey's. I think all these eejits rebelling against the national team need to take a look at themselves as it is really quite pathetic.

This has nothing to do with being a Rangers fan. And all to do with the Scotland manager Craig Levein. Please see the post made earlier and you will see where all the bad feeling is coming from.

Amazingly for some it's all the SPL/SFA's fault we are where we are. David Murray must be having a laugh at them.

You all must be damned ashamed of yourselves.Okay you don't need to go.That's
your prerogrative,but don't run your national
team down wishing we get beat.
Whether you blame it on Levein or the SFA
you should grow up and stop behaving like
spoilt wee wains.

I am not particularily against the football team ie the players. But sitting or standing beside other Scotland fans who voted against Rangers and threatened their own clubs just so that Rangers would be punished, and others who have taken great pleasure in what has happend, they can go and get stuffed.
My first World cup finals were the 1982 Spain and have followed Scotland on numerous occaisions.
This support Scotland caper is all about getting the local fans to Hampden to get along on the midweek games and to get thier money, nothing more.
Am sure if you add up the SPL fans and SFL fans Hampden will be full, even with some smeltic fans thrown in.
They don't want us, they don't need us.

Rangers fans harped on about how the club and company where two separate things,so why are national side and the sfa deemed as one and the same?just a thought...werent rangers fc incorporated as the company?was club and company the same?

We were caught doing wrong? Why the hell does this come up all the time - what have we done wrong as far as I knew we are innocent till proven otherwise - oh wait not in this part of the world!

Gers1986

Never have and never will follow scotland it should be an united kingdom team

Just listened to SSB tonight.First 2 callers
really greetin about their poor undertrod club and how they are boycotting Scotland
and SPL games.Sad,sad people indeed.I
thought gers fans were very happy where
they are.So lets hope you stay there.

As a season ticket holder, as well, the problem lies within the SFA, Simple question----- Were the full[wing] back replacements recently brought into the Scotland squad better than Lee Wallace or was it another directive?

I've never followed Scotland. My preference is club football, I do watch some international matches. I very rarely watch Scotland matches though. I have no interest whatsoever.

TTG

Re:post 6 - oh my god, you are in for a serious shock. The level of denial you are operating at is nothing short of breathtaking. It's defcon 1 level denial. whatever gets you a sleep at night.

Ffs get it into your heads, for one final time, nobody is to blame for your troubles but yourselves, stop trying to blame the rest of Scottish football for you racking up millions of pounds of debt. This rubbish "they voted us out of spl " what? you must surely realise a newco must start in div 3 and there shouldn't have been a vote......Stevie

6. Do you actually believe Craig Whyte maybe never done nuthin wrong?

You give Gers fans a bad name coming out with stuff like that.

@5 if you dont know the difference between a club team and a national team then there is not really any hope for you, no more words are required

JG

@6 what have you done wrong eeehhh not paid her majesty's tax's, have you been living on the moon
Tam

05 Sep 2012 13:28:38
How much did we pay for Tempelton?

Rory

700K a think

A reported 800,000,

Somewhere in the region of £800,000

When is that due?

DazzaBhoy

@4 hearts were quick enough to go back to doing business with us, maybe you should start a campaign to boycott them

JG

Why would we boycott anyone? Were not bitter and twisted.....if Herats are daft enough to give you tic for two different players hell mend them. All i was asking was when is the Templeton money due? Did you pay it up front? Or will it be the same deal as Wallace and Jelavic.....pay in a years time? Simple question....no need for silly answers!

DazzaBhoy

"Why would we boycott anyone? We're not bitter and twisted..."

Seriously DazzaBhoy? Were your own fans not going to boycott their own club unless they refused Rangers re-entry into the SPL and steadfastly refused to buy season tickets until it was confirmed? Were there not also calls to boycott any SPL team that supported Rangers re-entry? Kilmarnock got it seriously tight for simply having the audacity to abstain from voting on the Celtic pages if memory serves, and all sorts of punitive actions against them were being called for at the time. You personally may not be "bitter and twisted" but you are certainly conflicted and delusional if you believe your fellow fans wouldn't boycott (or at least threaten to) anyone to get their own way. Pot and kettle, mate.

In answer to your question, I have no idea. Maybe one of the Ed's know and can shed some light on it? TBH I was surprised they dealt with us again in a financial sense so soon after the Wallace shennanigans. I can only assume that the SPL paid them up for Wallace from the withheld league money from last season.

Brian {Ed001's Note - the FFP ruling now restricts the length of time that transfers can be paid over, I think (off the top of my head) that all fees now have to be paid up within two seasons. With the SFA now looking to, or maybe it has even been done by now, I haven't been able to keep track on it over the transfer window, change their rules, regarding admin, with regards to football creditors, to the same system that the English FA use, I guess Hearts feels safer dealing with Rangers.}

A wing of our supporters were threatning to boycott Celtic Park if a Newco was allowed into the SPL. RFC gained that place in the league and in your hearts by winning and playing in the top divisions. Howvere that club is dead.

Sevco/Newco/The Rangers have not earned that place in the top leagues, when they do then Celtic will not be boycotting ibrox..... whereas your lot have been talking about boycotting Queens PArk (just cause they happen to play at Hampden) Your also advocating for Scotland players to effectivley retire from playing for scotland as your upset, denying players caps as Murray and Whyte killed your club? Really!

DazzaBhoy

Cheers Ed001! Sorry about the length of reply.

DazzaBhoy. We are covering old ground here and we will always disagree on the key points but for Rangers fans only the Company will be liquidated, the football club itself will always be there as it is the fans that constitute the essence of a club and not money grabbing suits in boardrooms whether they are legally or illegally syphoning off the clubs funds. You are of course free to voice your own thoughts on it (they appear pretty clear with the continued Sevco/Newco reference which is really getting old and petty now - however, if you can show me a current bonafide SFA approved league table that lists Sevco as a member club occupying a league position then I will apologise and agree wholeheartedly with you) but at least be COMPLETELY honest about them when you do.

Celtic fans weren't refusing to renew season tickets on the basis that a Newco was seeking admittance into the SPL, they were refusing to renew their season tickets as an allegedly 'debt free' Rangers would effectively be re-entering the SPL without receiving any real punishment (potential future sanctions aside) for the appalling financial mismanagement under previous stewardships. If it was any other SPL club applying having similarly entered liquidation then I seriously doubt that the reaction to it would have been so vociferous. Obviously there is the argument that any other club would not have been afforded the luxury of re-applying but Rangers were the first SPL club to enter liquidation and as the SPL and SFL are separate entities with separate rules even that argument is contentious at best (although Celtic would undoubtedly have received the same options open to Rangers had the roles been reversed either way).

The bottom line is we are where we are and in my opinion we deserve to be there. I have never agreed with the talk of boycotts from either side for any reason as I feel they are counter-productive and bad for the game and what remains of our already tarnished global image, but fan power is clearly in the ascendancy in Scotland and every supporter is entitled to their own views on the matter. If they choose to vote with their feet then they are free to do so, attendance isn't compulsory and I, for one, won't shout them down for it. They can spend their money as they see fit.

As for the not having earned our place I can only assume you mean the admission process for entry into the SFL and needless to say I disagree with you there too. We retained/transferred (depends upon which side of the fence you sit) our original SFA membership so we were not strictly applying as a new club would do - we were accepted into the SFL (entirely within the existing rules - which was the first vote taken at the meeting) by all of its member clubs bar Clyde, having previously been refused entry into the SPL (which was originally pushed by both the SPL and SFA boards incidentally, which has already been conveniently forgotten). The only decision they then had to make was which Division for us to start in as we already met all the criteria within the existing guidelines. No three years of accounts etc (the normal argument against) were then necessary by this juncture.

In relation to your other points unfortunately we have our lunatic fringes just as you have yours yet they are just as entitled to hold their own opinion on these matters as we are. personally, I will continue to support Scotland and will cheer on the team no matter what club the player happens to play for as, for me, the national and domestic teams are entirely separate and domestic loyalty aside we should always support our country (which, to be completely clear, is Scotland - not Ireland OR England).

Long winded, I know, but you did raise and cover a lot of points and it isn't the longest post I have ever placed on here, lol.

Brian

05 Sep 2012 09:06:22
I see we have a new green and White eejit to annoy us. Binman u are on a par with stevo n miko already

Binman is such a fitting name though!

1} your right very apt name for dealing with the rubbish on this site. shamrock

@2. And you lot post the majority of it.

If you're not happy wi the rubbish Shamsham, than stop posting it!

05 Sep 2012 00:51:08
I can't believe why fellow Gers are so up beat. Yes we have an ok team for the lower leagues but some of us are talking as if we are great. I watched on Sunday and I was embarrassed at some of the optimism . We were just ok. We beat Elgin . A part time outfit who were knacked after 20 min. Now it is ' we are gonna wap Motherwell ' I just hope we get real and know our limitations. I read somewhere that some of us would love to get septic. My god if we played them at the moment that 7 - 1 game they sing about might become 8

Thank our lucky stars we are still around with an ok team. Good enough to go up hopefully. But get real

Agree mate 100%.
Too early to beat Celtic...maybe?
Nothing wrong with a touch of optimism,it's about time we were upbeat after what we've been through but i take your point.
CFC aren't that good a team let's not over hype them.
P.O.B.

I take it sir, your glass is half empty? Theres nothing wrong with some positivity. After the last 6 months us Bears have had, by god we need somethin to smile about so get of your negative high horse. Rtid

I don't know what game you watched at the weekend?

Do you realise this is a rangers forum?

I agree our defence is p..h not really had much attacking against s at home.come up against a team who has more of ball for instance attack us more i dread to think hope we can bring on some young defenders cribari is a donkey

We have a better squad than motherwell even straurt mccall adminted it 2 days ago

I'm not being negative . Just know there is a need for a bit of realism. Yes there is a reason to smile but we are not champions league material yet. Some of us think we a great. Again it was Elgin we beat 5-1 .Maybe the game against Motherwell will help ground us a bit!

Calm doon min the whole of Scottish fitbaw is mince rangers should have no pros beating Motherwell at ibrox. Every player in our team is still of spl standard. Celtic I will give you it might be a bad result if we get drawn against them it might not. Imagine if we get to the final against them they might Sh,te themselves at the prospect of getting beat by a third I've team we all know there bottle crashes but if we get pumped by them ah well we're a third div team

Pob we humped you 3-0 in the last ever old firm game. since then you have lost i think 17 of the best you had. and replaced them with mince. we are maybe not that good , as you say. but bring it on , the sooner the better. and remember we will be practicing against the best in europe., while you play part timers week after week.. shamrock

@5. McCall is an unambitious idiot. At the weekend when told on BBC Scotland that a win could put him top he said something along the lines of let's not think that way. He then said his ambition was only to finish in the top six. How can that be motivational to the players. Had he been a bit more positive last season, his team might have finished second.
Al

Hail Hail Shamrock.

P.O.B we gubbed you several times prior to you's changing clubs and players. It may well be five years before your fit to worry Celtic. Get real, Sheils was a failure at Hibs and Doncaster! Sandaza wasn't the best at Dundee United or Brighton! And lets not get started on McCulloch.......hardly a football player is he. More like some battering ram, how Ally rates that man i'll never know. I've played against better in Pub leagues.

Elgin were extremely poor on Sunday and yet they still managed to score at ibrox! Your team are stumbling around div3 like a drunk chasing a balloon....... Ally aint the answer!

DazzaBhoy

Im quite sure its mind games with mccall, he will be telling the players different lines behind closed doors im sure, Motherwell are a tough side to beat, dont get too carried away bears. jj

@10 - Lol -Your inane ramblings aren't the answer either DB.
Need to up your game considerably me old mucka.
P.O.B.

So P.O.B are you trying to tell me that McCulloch would start every week if you were playing in Europe? If you are the you young man are needing medicated.

DazzaBhoy

04 Sep 2012 22:41:41
Why haven 't secco told us what fans have decided to call Murray park. I think it was either Moses McNeil academy or davies cooper academy do you know ed

FS - and you say you are not obsessed, i bet you woke up this morning and that was the first thing that came into your head?

JG

Firstly who are secco? Secondly, the voting papers went out with the original ST renewal forms which were cancelled, for the time being Murray Park is being called Auchenhowie.

Another Green lie, I've come to believe anyone that has ever been on the board of the old club and now this new club tells lies.
If we bought season tickets we were getting two name options to choose from.
Guess he's been ordered to back track and it's to remain named after the goodly knight.

04 Sep 2012 23:26:45
Come on I really like big jig But he's a 34 yr old who's on 10-12 grand a week and clearly settled up here why would he wnt to leave? He was bought for 2.25 million and never really hit the heights and was one of our highest earners and was contracted to gers till 2013 before liq,he owes rangers loyalty. Gman

Op there is no way he is earning any where near what you say and no players owe loyalty to any clubs these days. however jig would run through a brick wall just to play with us (anywhere he is asked), his actions and attitude during our troubles more than compensates for other areas where he may be slightly lacking,
he is also the right man for the captains job at this time to teach new players what playing for rangers is all about and to pass his experience to young players coming through

he may not be up there with the greatest most skillful players but he will go down as a rangers legend for his attitude and service to the club


JG

So obv when jungle jims postin, jig offered to play for free also was first to come out sayin hes goin nowhere and would play anywhere the gers end up
will go down in history as a gers legend i see a coachin roll for jig at gers in the future

He hasnt hit the heights? scored a few in the CL against Lyon etc, also scored a few against Smeltic. He has done a good job for Gers in my opinion.

J

He stayed loyal to the fans and club. I know he is being paid to play football, but he did offer to play for nothing not so long ago. He could have jumped ship but chose not to, and for that we applaud his loyalty.