Rangers Banter Archive August 06 2014

 

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06 Aug 2014 22:14:08
Last night was pay at the gate, the game was on BBC ALBA, also a midweek game, reasons for low attendence, full house for hearts expected

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A lot of fans staying a away due to the atrocious football being played

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Think Sunday will give us a fair view of the crowds for the coming season

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I think £22 is a bit much for these kind of games.

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Of course ibrox will be full for the first game [maybe] to see flag go up but I will take a wager with any of yous the crowds will dwindle and dwindle what supporter will pay to watch this dross for a full season there is better more competitive games being played at jnr football than there is at ibrox and its been this way since last xmas

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06 Aug 2014 22:04:11
If that is the best that scottish football has to offer then we have declined as a nation even more drastically than one could imagine. Anyhow with the decent european cup over and the spfl premiership wrapped up, focus will surely be on the most competive title race in spfl history - the championship! Mon the Gers!

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Gaz after watching celtic play so far this season I would not be so sure about them winning the leauge next season not that it matters to us but cause you said they will win it

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06 Aug 2014 18:46:47
Is the reason we get rid of mccoist, we can't afford to

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Mcc - if performances drive crowds down this season, we might not be able to afford not too,

we need fans to buy match day tickets and we also need at least two if not three decent cup runs to bring in much needed cash

Much has been said about green, but I think he would have bumped ally by now if he was still calling the shots, remember he was critical of performances way back in the 12/13
season

JG

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Going to need to be struggling badly in the league before the board would think of getting rid of mccoist

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At 2. Johncass, you need to waken up and think. That move, alone, would give them some street cred, but I agree with both Mcc and JG finance will dictate his fate.

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The board have backed mccoist with transfers, the board are perfectly happy with mccoist as manager, he ain't going anywhere boys.

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After listening to the celtic game I heard the rangers board had originally tried to raise 10 million on the new shares issue but have now dropped it to 4 million but according to bbc commentaters they are strugling to raise the 4 million from bph and magarita thoughts bears especially your own thought jg

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Supported him with transfers to boost the season ticket sales lol

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@5. re: struggling to raise 4 million. Bears, remember when we needed 1.5 million to get to the end of the season? Stands to reason if they can't raise 4 million BEFORE the season starts. RFC are in the sh*t already. These really are clowns running our club.

If they don't raise the cash via a conventional share issue. they will need to go down the road of the high interest corporate loan sharks (whom no doubt they have links to and shares in) which will compound the problem once the repayments are due.

If RFC do win the League this year, that would mean going back into the top league (assuming we have funds to the end of the season) in a worse position than we are currently.

I'm starting to believe that there is a "Rangers Man" out there waiting to pick up the club once it is on the brink of ruin once again, and the SPIVS shares are worthless.

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We won't get rid of him because he is doing the job he is paid to do - winning leagues.

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Ayr bear I think like yourself that is what's on the cards also have you not posted for a while or am I thinking of another

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@8. . great post ( and stupid) so. . by your logic if he fails to win SPL when we go up, he should go?. . after all he is paid to win leagues. glad you agree Ally must go.

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@9. tmwnn, I have been selective in my posts recently as I don't want to keep saying the same things as the majority of the good bears on this forum. namely. The 3 stooges must go.

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Jg charliboy is still calling the shots still waiting on your reply to my post at n5 what's up has the cat got your tongue lol

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06 Aug 2014 12:40:06
watched the game last night, we are just awful, very slow. boring down the wings and team just look shocking in my mind, think its time ther club do something. I feel there are no tactic's at all and they yeam have penitration at all

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06 Aug 2014 13:14:50
mccoist keeps saying we can play better this is what we have heard all pre season mccoist is the manager so why is the players not performing for him there must be a reason or could it just be not playing right tactics or the right players something ain't right and needs sorting hearts will be different opposition come the weekend

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Take it we lost last night then? You are right that Hearts will be different opposition though.

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06 Aug 2014 09:48:43
Has anyone ever thought the reason for poor performance's is that teams are not afraid of us anymore and are right in our faces from the start & no longer sit back. Let's face it the players are mediocre at best and would never be there now if the problems had never happened.
r. f

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Its nothing to do with whether teams fear uus or not its all down to coaching and tactics both are abysmal go through the majority of signings they start well but go back the way even lee wallace has went back we play with outdated tactics and woeful coaching anyone who can't see this is on planet ally

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06 Aug 2014 16:35:50
Totally different comment from your post further down wull 61 "we were not as bad as I feared" you can't change your mind after you've read other comments
r.f

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06 Aug 2014 17:38:30
Of course it matters how many times have u heard in the past that Ibrox is a fortress and teams fear coming hear but the fact is we don't have the players that other teams would fear or dare I say it after last night the support .
r.f

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R. f. , For the level we play at, the players should be more than adequate. Our biggest problem is your overpaid, hopeless idol that couldn't organise a booze up in a brewery, unless it was paid for and served up by others.

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Rf I have not changed my mind they were not as bad but hibs played better football and we played a bit more of a passing game but the tactics and coaching are abysmal as is team selection

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07 Aug 2014 09:35:26
He's asking players to adapt to a knew system 3-5-2 & maybe if all u boycott fans went to games & let your feelings known u might get your wish staying away only damages the club u say u love . and by the way ally can organise a fantastic booze up .
r.f

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Op the teams don't fear us anymore cause they know we ain't like rangers teams of old plus opposition know half our players are playing in unfamiliar possitions due to bad managment bad tactics and overall our players look unfit

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06 Aug 2014 00:45:00
The standard of football at our club just now is shocking! As much of a legend Ally is, he's no manager. He's got to go.

There's a squad full of talented, albeit some are ageing, players there and he makes them look like amateurs with his tactics.

Take tonight for example.

The idea of the 3-5-2 is fine but you've got to have to wing backs who are going to burst a gut to get up and down the park all night to create the width in the system. Wallace can do that but Foster either can't or is too lazy too. So the system falls apart there. And the Midfield 3 can't all sit back in that system. Surely you adapt the system and change to a 3-4-1-2, allowing the holding midfielder (Black) to sit, the box-to-box midfielder (Law) to get up and down the park and make runs beyond the front two and then allow the No. 10 (MacLeod) to link up with the front two.

It's hardly rocket science. Every midfield 3 should have a holding players, a b2b player and a creator. Ours just seem to sit back and contribute nothing. This leaves the two up front with no support. You give Boyd support, he'll bang the goals in!

You got to question what they do fitness wise in pre-season. They looked extremely jaded out there and it's only start of the season. To play a 3-4-1-2 you have to have a team of very fit players or the system falls apart. Look at what LVG is doing at United.

The same applies for other formations.

Say you go to a 4-4-2 diamond. You have a holding midfielder, 2 box-to-box midfielders and a creator. Then the two full backs provide the width.

Even a 4-3-3. The usual midfield applied as stated above. You have two pacey wingers to get balls into the box and Boyd will finish them!

I'm not a great fan of the traditional 4-4-2. I think it can be worked out pretty easily and stopped. Although I reckon with Hibs down to ten men tonight, if we had put on Aird for one of the CM's then it would have worked.

However, the main point that leads to all these systems working is, keeping the ball on the deck! Can't watch another season of punting it up the park.

Transfer wise:

If we can find enough money to get in another CB and another winger, preferably right sided then I'd be happy with that. I'd like a RB but I can't see that happening. Out should go Moshni, Peralta, Daly and possibly Crawford (don't rate the boy). Oh and Cribrari if he's still here!

Banter please Ed! Thanks.

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I continually read, game after game, " we weren't at our best, we can play better and we will. " If we're never at our best how do we know what that measurement is?

I think we've got a good enough squad but the problem lies in the selection of the starting eleven and this isn't going to change or go away. McCoist says he wants more players in but who's he going to replace? Not the ones the majority of fans want, that's seems sure.

The continual rant of playing for Rangers is a scary proposition and the opposition always raise their game is becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. Time to cut it out. If a player's good enough, just give him the jersey and tell him to get on the park and do his stuff. We played one home grown player last night and that's not good enough. Bet Hibs drove home last night saying " we'll take them next time. "

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G95, I think that no matter what tactics are decided at the outset of a game the key to actioning them is mobility and flexibility. A manager must tweek the system as the game dictates. This is where we fall down as we appear too rigid in our approach.
Football is a simple game, sometimes over-complicated by the systems being operated. Width and pace are the key with the ball doing the work. The core of the team must be mobile and flexible with players than can adapt to the things that the game throws at them.
Your overall appraisal is spot on, but we might disagree on the ins and outs. That's why we love the game.
I stopped going a while ago because I didn't like the product on show and from what I view on tv at present it is going downhill.
I miss the banter at the game where at the end of the day we will probably agree to disagree, but there are few things better than to watch the Glasgow Rangers in full flow. This will not happen unless radical changes are made.

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06 Aug 2014 11:46:08
@g95 top post mate sums it up pretty well

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Billyb,

I agree that we must be able to adapt the system and tactics during the game if they are not working or if an opportunity arises to change them, i. e. A red card. The thing is Ally doesn't even know how to set the team up from the start never mind change during the game.

I'll continue to go to all the home games although not for the actual football just now. I've sat in the same seat for 15 years and I love the banter you get at the football. Most of all I love the club and will go till I, or the club, die.

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G95, Enjoy the banter and, I hope, the football. The current scenario cannot continue and crowds like last night might just tip the scales. From the 50's I have seen many great players/teams, proud captains, honourable managers and genuine owners, but now we only have memories of what was. Being totally honest I feel that these days are gone for good, but who knows?

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06 Aug 2014 17:30:05
OP the fitness of the squad has been an issue for a couple of years now and you would have expected the full time training would win out in the second half against largely part time teams.
I think a couple of the more mature posters mentioned the sand dunes at Gullane near North Berwick which bears in the olden days used to have to run up and down until Sargeant Major Wallace knew the basic core fitness was in place.

Hard work ye cannae whack it -maybe it's time to revisit the seaside.

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Well in guys must agree with all above posts

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06 Aug 2014 00:01:23
one big plus from tonights game - when we stopped punting and played a passing game, it was much better to watch.

on the minus side, the attendance 18,000 is very poor and we need a lot more to sustain the club and keep away from the vultures.

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What game were u watching? We were rank rotten tonight and had no creativity in midfield once again. Had Hibs had someone who could finish we would have been well beaten. The stupid starting formation clearly didn't work and it was only when Templeton came on and started running at players did Rangers look dangerous. Can't believe u think that was good to watch tonight

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Too late, the vultures are in the club, and have been for a long time now!!

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As far as I saw we were not as bad as I feared we even played more of a passing game but hibs looked the better team it was only when templeton was brought on did we look anythihg like it and cannyone tell me is cribari still rhere and who else has gone

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06 Aug 2014 12:23:28
Only Templeton had the urgency and drive when he came on, too large a gap between Midfield and Strikers, no overlapping attacking wing back play from Foster. Players didn't look fit, Not good enough

Wullie

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Stewie - the point I was trying to make was that when we took the ball forward, albeit not very often, it was much better than booting it up field in the hope of winning something in the air, Boyd made no impact on that score, looks unfit, and you are right about Templeton and you are right again about the formation. Utter garbage from the most inept manager in British football. He hasn't a clue

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The only difference was we did'nt punt the ball so often. But when Templeton came on why was no Rangers player ever closer than about 30 yds to him, he often had to beat 2 defenders before he could make a pass. To have no width when you have Boyd in the team is criminal & why Black & McCulloch ever in the same team. Said it before, baffling tactics & team selection!. On another note why were the prices so steep last night? surely £15 for adults & £5 for accompanied Kids would have been enough? it's still school hols and the superstore could have made a few bob (plus if the kids misbehaved the parents could have threatened to bring them to the next game)

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Youngwinston my thoughts exactly mate good post

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Agree about the prices totally ridiculous for such a game. As you say £20 should have been the price for both an adult and a child

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