Rangers Banter Archive July 06 2013

 

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06 Jul 2013 23:13:45
Rangers want to sign 2 new centre halfs, they've targeted 4 good centre halfs, (berra, pandza, zaliukas & mohsni), which 2 do my fellow rangers supporters want as our new centre half partnership?I'm very interested to see you're replys

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Gasparotto should be used in my opinion

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It will be moshni and pandza they want to be here are good players and not on sky high wages.

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Pandza and mosnhi

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07 Jul 2013 10:57:52
Im the same pandza and mohsni, the boy that on trail is supposedly really impressing mohsni, I think the pandza deal nearly done according pandza himself. Berra deal is dead though I was told.

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06 Jul 2013 23:00:46
This may not be popular as I know a lot of people don't like him, but I think we could see a much improved Ian Black this year.

He was poor last year for sure, but he always impressed me when he came to Ibrox as an opposing player even though he was a nasty piece of work at times. I think if he is told to just sit and protect the back four, not be too extravagant on the ball, keep things simple and just allow MacLeod, Law, Templeton, Shiels etc to make things happen going forward then he can be a good player for us. He also got the short straw last year from refs imo. I know he is painted as a hard man and he moaned about tackles, but he was justified. Some of the challenges on him could have ended his career but because he's supposed to be a hard man he gets told to get on with it. I hope he turns it round as I'm convinced he has a part to play. I was delighted when we signed him so I'm sure there is still a decent player in there somewhere.

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06 Jul 2013 20:25:14
No wonder Jabba the judas made such a u turn regarding the history debate. Just seen in Tam Cowans collum in the Daily Record that the useless person is getting £200,000 a year no wonder were in such a finacial state paying they wages. Our own chairmen said it and so has ex players such as Gough and Naismith just let's give the whole history debate a rest and trying focusing on the club getting back to the top flight and yes I am a season ticket holder and proud of it

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Aw don't be stupid 200 k a year go away timmy

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A season ticket holder!
And yet you read Tam Cowan's column in the record?!
Hmmm something's not right here.

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In reply to post 1 and 2 get a grip of yourselfs and get your blue tinted glasses off. Just because somebody says something that you don't like they get accused of being timmy. You two are so far back in the dark ages its unreal. Bet you both don't even have season tickets and listen to games on the radio so don't judge us true fans

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07 Jul 2013 09:36:54
Reply to post 1. Its well documented that the guy is on a fortune and not doing a great doing a great deal either. No need to call other Gers fans timmy is there. I like many other gers fans are deeply uncomfortable with that guy at are club. He is vastly over paid and very poisonous

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06 Jul 2013 18:59:51
If you take the average comment on this page you get two centre backs in Gasparatto and Pondza and that's a pretty good indication of the fans' preference and it's not a bad one by a long shot.

So where to McCullouch? Daly and Clarke got the strikers roles covered. Anybody up to it to admit that his time is up too? And forget midfield for those who say what about there. And Bell's a better keeper.

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06 Jul 2013 17:26:37
It's a big squad but half are 21 or under. Also we have signed 6 guys on an average of 5k a week it's only 1.5m a year less kyle, sandaza and Alexander it'll be net £1m per year so what's the problem, the squad was desperate for fresh faces.

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@OP: the point is, why spend all that money to win this division, especially if the money isn't actually there, and no-one really knows if it is.

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N1 I don't think this squad is for coming season ide imagine am sees this as the team to get us back to top league

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The point is can we afford to take a chance on promotion? I'd rather we were heavy stacked in depth and quality and made sure than take a chance with teenagers etc and possibly miss out. All this anyone can win div1/2 with good tactics just doesn't wash. Were showing an imm ense respect to other clubs by signing quality players. Why sign div1/2 players and then In a year be left with players who may not be good enough. It'll be same story as this summer. Paying off players who can't cut it. ( cribari ; goian; agiriou, faire)

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@3 seriously? Where are the quality players? You really do live in a fantasy world if you believe that!

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@4. No, no you live in denial old boy. The signings we made aren't going to win european footballer of the year by a few miles. But they are much better than 11 SPL clubs signings. Fact. Considering the position we are in I feel that bell Daly Clark and law are admirable signings for us to rise the divisions. Quality is gauged in many ways. Messi and ronaldo they ain't, quality signings for rangers they are. Now go back to your colouring in there's a good lad!

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06 Jul 2013 15:44:26
Hate to say this, and make no mistake its the same on both sides of the divide, but the animals marching along George st next to my work are a complete and utter embarrassment to our great club, NOT the Order members themselves, but the persons who can hardly walk and the women are worse, jesus please, I pray none of these people actually go to ibrox, almost all covered in rangers flags or tattoos, none with half a brain and with kids with them, it would make you cry looking at these peiople with our teams colours on, and I stress again, I have seen it on both sides, I hope my fellow gers are in agreement, Tommyblue

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Unfortunately these are the people who think because they support Rangers they should follow the Orange walk. They have no idea about anything apart from hating Catholics. More to it than that.
Seen plenty of incidents over the years, but quite rightly it is the woman who are worse. It speaks volumes with the kids in tow with their bottles of wine/vodka under the pram.
Welcome to the West Of scotland

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Unfortunately this is why this element will always be there Tommy. Filling the heads of kids with hatred and bile will ensure the cycle of hate continues. I can only hope there are more of us who are not hard of thinking who are teaching our kids tolerance and respect. somehow I doubt it.

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If you took these people out of the equation, there would only be the bands, marchers and a few hundred others. It's an anachronism and an irrelevance and I don't see what it brings to Rangers.

Paddy Malarkey

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Glad to see that there is an acceptance on the state of religious bigotry in scotland, we all know it is there, but for too long ignored, I hope mr salmond reads this, bigotry starts at home not at school or football matches, if he really wants to address this issue, ban all parades then there is no breeding ground for hatred

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I'll 2nd that. You would thing rangers were playing today, goes for both sides there's a Celtic song with the words 'if you know your history'. History, do half of these clowns really have any idea? Never saw Celtic or rangers back the war between Northern/southern Ireland. If you read both sides of the story and still believe what your marching for then batter in but it's more than what team you support. And your right, welcome to west of Scotland. Sadly be with us for years and years.

Lenny

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Some good posts there. Of course the orange order has the right to demonstrate as all citizens do, but as we move forward its to be hoped the clubs can continue to work towards removing this aspect. Be a while though. It's a blight on the society altogether. Respect to the posters.

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Divide and Rule, silly some are still falling for it.

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@6 what exactly do they have to protest about? All they are doing is promoting religious intolerance and feeding the knuckle draggers need for hatred (that includes both sides if the divide!).
Fact is we are in the 21st century and the Neanderthal who march with these marches are celebrating what? Did all of your hero William of orange ever march through glasgow? Or even elderslie? No he didn't! So the quicker we get rid of these low lifes we can start to move on!

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It's increasingly embarrassing to see these people parade the streets in honour of something that they are too ignorant to understand. The whole thing is ridiculous and all the people who dress up in those uniforms should look in the mirror and realise how silly they look. All the march does is antagonise people and its long overdue being banned. As long as this sort of thing is celebrated then we will always have a sectarian issue in th west

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I remember having an English mate (apologies) up on leave with me and we were on the piss in Glasgow and he saw the walk. Appalled didn't cover it. Until then he had an idealistic view of Scotland / Glasgow and I have to say I, and my mate Bear where thoroughly ashamed that day. How do you answer "you let your kids see this?' Progress is being made but we all need to stick at it. Posted here or on the other site before I'm am expat, and one very big reason for that is that I don't want my boy anywhere near the sectarian crap, I don't want him to know anything about it. The thought of him getting the same abuse (or giving it) liek we did as children shames me.
Nada. It's in the past. HH joe.

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Time for the councils to ban the marches or make them do it on a public park after paying to hire it for the day.

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This is the most sense I have ever read on here ban ALL religious marches

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Respect to all these posts. in ref to 6 I think everyone has right to air their views but demonstrate is the wrong wording. be interesting to find out the police costs, numbers jailed, A&E stats etc and the overall cost to the public purse for these marches. I also think the time for this kind of nonsense marching through the streets is due to end. restrict movement to one park or something. btw I admit freely am a celtic supporter and all of the above is for both sides of the fence this nonsense has held back both clubs for years #timetogetagrip

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I agreevto most of the posts I find it all a bit boring grown men marching about in uniform that don't even fit them protesting about things that should have been laid to rest years ago and as for the hangers on well they are a disgrace to Scotland but ban the march? I think it would inflame it and even more people would be out staggering along the road education is the way and in the home it must start my kids have been brought up to respect all and by the way I've been a season ticket holder for over thirty years you don't need all this crap to be a good Rangers supporter so come on you lot join us in 2013 don't live in the past

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@7 you just hit the nail on the head mate. How people cannot see they are being manipulated to hate friends and neighbours, all because they like a different football team is beyond me. Start hating the people who are responsible for disabled folk thrown out a job, or out their house because they have an extra bedroom. All this is still happening because when we are bitching at each other about this, we take our eyes off of the ball to what is happening to our society. Could you imagine what could be achieved if Rangers and Celtic supporters stood together and said enough is enough.
Alex M

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06 Jul 2013 11:07:23
With all the talk of a cash crisis and Rangers signing all these players but does anyone know if they are getting paid just now? Surely they can't be. When the season starts they will only be able to play as trialists so I can't see how you can pay them a wage as a trialists. Hopefully by the 1st of September when these guys start to earn we will have offloaded at least 5 or 6 other players reducing the wage bill. {Ed001's Note - I would be shocked if any were paid their wages prior to starting their contract, which will be after the embargo is lifted.}

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They will be getting paid. It just won't be as 'wages'. As a trialist they will be due any expenses, let's just assume their expenses will be pricey. then when the contract can be registered a hefty signing on fee to make up the difference.

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I highly doubt they are getting paid anythin before september. MYbe they will get a large sign on fee, but not a penny before

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They prob are getting paid. We are under an embargo for registering new players, however there is no stipulation re hiring employees of rangers football club. So they will prob be employed by the club in some capacity with a view to being registered as a player come September.

Parky

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N1 I don't agree with your heavy signing on fee part

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07 Jul 2013 11:05:26
@4: why not? Signing on fees are part and parcel of bosman deals. Or do you know something we don't?

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06 Jul 2013 10:03:34
Rangers need to sign an out & out no nonsense centre half (ie. a stopper), we are very interested in 2 I would class in that mould, marius zaliukas & boris pandza, I personally rate both these rugged centre halfs and wouldn't mind which one we signed as long as we signed 1 of them, so here's the question to my fellow rangers supporters, which 1 would you rather we signed, zaliukas or pandza?

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06 Jul 2013 11:25:36
I would pick the Pandza because he is younger, has more potential, and would command a sell on fee, once the time comes to move him on

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@1/ A sell on fee? He will be 32-33 after a three year deal. Not much re-sale there.

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@2 He is 26 just now so I can't see how you got to 32/ 33 after 3 years. If he did sign and if he did well in the SPL hopefully then he would command a sell on fee- 29 year old international stopper- RFC should get a few bob

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06 Jul 2013 13:38:07
32 after 3 years u obviously can't count pandza 26, next time u have a smart comment check the facts

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If he turns out to be as good a signing as Papac then everyone will be happy.

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06 Jul 2013 00:51:09
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ALL BEARS!

My fellow gers fans, armagedon is upon us, another cash crisis on the brink. all I can ask is everyone that sees this message buys a season ticket and donates to the fighting fund, our club needs out fantastic support again this season, watp

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Thanks for that Ally but why would anyone buy a ST for a club that might be back in insolvency at any time? pay at the gate do not invest your money in these charlatans running the club, will all or any of these new signings materialise? this has been on the cards for ages but it seems the majority of Rangers fans are easily duped with talks of signing players we don't need and can't afford, surely now is the time for McCoist, Smith or any of the other supposed Rangers men to voice the truth if they are not implicit in the whole sorry affair.

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Surely its not such a surpise all the money being given out in wages and bonuses, all the money that cannot be afforded, from day 1 rangers priority should have been stadium repairs and youth policy implemented, but no all we got was this totally ruinous attitude of win win win at any cost, well all you so called rangers men thanks for nothing, the following statement will stick in our throats but I fear its true, we should follow celtics example and handle our money like they do

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Here's an idea why don't we band together create a honourable & respectable supporters group other than those plums in the RST. Then go an ask some serious questions? Or we can sit back & watch as these tw@ts pick our club apart peace by peace again?

Larky Bear

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@2 well said mate I think a lot of fans don't want to admit that we're getting shafted again

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Is there no limits they will go to to try and get ST's sold:

Bragging - Look how well we're doing, buy a ST.
Poverty - We really need your money, buy a ST.
Spending - Look at all the new players, buy a ST.
Hatred - Nobody like's us, we don't care. Buy a ST.

How's about running the club properly and managing the team properly. Confidence in the top brass and a bit of skill on the pitch and the ST's would be sold out. But with all this uncertainty and uneasy silence I say pay at the gate. Unless several players are going soon you are risking the club to win a division that any half decent manager could have done with a 5th of the resources.

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@3 mate totally agree the fans groups don't seem that interested in what's going on they should be ashamed of themselves the fans who bought shares thru the rst should be demanding these muppets to do something

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All this was said last year as well. why cant. moaning. minies accept how far we have come in the last year. after being on the brink. we will continue to progress now. doom mongerers are not required

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@ 3 Again I totally agree and would pay a few quid into an inclusive proactive tolerant representative fans group but how will we get this up and running. We are great at talking on these Rangers sites but not good at following through and producing the goods. But good aspiration let's hope it comes to fruition

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OP. Excellent stuff. let's all give the board more of our hard earned cash and hope for the best and if it disappears like £14,000,000 from the Share Issue seems to have then we can all put our hands in our pockets and hope for the best yet again.

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@7 mate am no a doom Mongerer am just lookin without my blue tinted glasses the only real money that's coming into rangers is the st money which is roughly between 8-9 million so we wer operating at a loss last season so now with a bigger squad plus paying boca and goian off do you think that st money is going to cover all of this plus if when we win the league you got all the vulctures bonuses no so I ask the question how how much share moneys left so the first 6 months of last season we had spent 7 million and all the old debt we payed off plus green and ahmad payoff plus the rest of the wages and manager and director bonuses so there really can't be that much money left in the club account

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Why don't we ask a good legal firm to look into Mr Greens takeover and what he did with the cash, also the companies he has put in place, a lying devious toad, like we never seen before, or maybe we have, I have a feeling he will take us for everything, and retire a rich and happy man, I certainly hope not, and don't give me any s**** about saving us,

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Why does anyone on this site you deviates from the party line of blind ignorance get jumped on or accused of being one of us? I don't get it. HH. Joe

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