Rangers Banter Archive May 06 2015

 

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06 May 2015 20:11:59
Hope we stand up to the league and let the fans in and don't back down. Feel like a money machine for them as per

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06 May 2015 22:53:01
What do you mean stand up to the league? Do you mean blatantly break the rules?

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07 May 2015 00:19:39
I dunno if you read much Spring but several threads below you might find out why it is not comparable to Hibs, money machine or not Rangers signed up to it. And I would imagine they are pretty grateful that the very rule that gave us this 50% pot share also gave Championship teams a further avenue of progress to the SPL, yes? Indeed, I thought so too.

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07 May 2015 07:21:42
Surely it should be up to the club of how much to charge there fans.

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07 May 2015 08:37:47
Or we can just pay our way like every other team? yes the situation isn't right but Rangers voted for it end of. Season tickets do not include for these games, so I personally don't think you should get in for free or less. it's annoying how much money could be made from us however we voted for it, it's that simple.

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07 May 2015 10:08:24
Twice in a day onlyshow, wtf is happening? :)

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07 May 2015 10:51:54
Get a room you 2, when rangers voted for it, I'm sure the club & supporters never thought they'd be in this position, and wouldn't have cared and took the extra money coming.

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07 May 2015 15:42:22
totally agree we voted for the rules we should stick by it

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06 May 2015 19:04:48
Anyone wondering if we are holding off on a ticket announcement for QOS till the idiots at the SFA make an announcement on Dave King F&P? Just wondering what's going on now.

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{Ed039's Note - The ticketing is do with the SPFL and the F&P is do with the SFA so I doubt it, I think it would have more to do with Rangers intent on allowing season ticket holders into the match)

07 May 2015 01:34:26
The same idiots who break there own rules to let Paul Murray On Board &_DK just shortly due to there disgretions, the same idiots who granted rfc a temporary licence ( Unheard of but bent the rules by there discretion ) to play in the Cup game before rfc played there first ever game in lower league football. So there not all that bad after altering there very own rules by there discretion again.

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07 May 2015 09:01:38
Oh aye, the associations have been nothing but helpful over the past three years. Bless their little cotton socks

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06 May 2015 11:37:34
I was fully behind Rangers saying they wanted to let season ticket holders into the play-offs for free. The precedent had been set by Hibs the year before etc etc.

But as ever the devil is in the detail and I don't know how many of you are fully aware of why it was different for Hibs last year.

As far as I can see the play-offs for the SPL were first confirmed on May 7th 2013. Hibs had been selling season tickets for the next season from that March. Now I agree optimistically this may impact 2,000 folk or so at best but nonetheless these people bought a season ticket under one understanding and then events moved on from that standpoint. That is not the case this year, Rangers, Hibs, QOS and even Motherwell or Ross County all knew how this season's end would play out long before season tickets went on sale.

So this isn't anti Rangers, one rule for Hibs another for yourselves, the reality is some Hibs fans had a good shout about the goalposts being moved, that isn't the case here. Technically you haven't got a leg to stand on and moaning about it without an understanding of the reasons behind it is just plain daft.

Believable6 Unbelievable4

06 May 2015 12:05:08
I agree matem hence why I am not complaining

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06 May 2015 13:24:22
Changed my mind to some extent on this one myself as the cases of Rangers this time round does differ significantly from Hibs last year.

The time who complain was long before now although I still think Doncaster and co are robbing all the clubs by taking fifty percent of the gate money.

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06 May 2015 13:33:51
I can understand why rangers want to let fans in after a torrid season. As a reward and to get full houses for the home games.

If you don't ask you don't get

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06 May 2015 13:52:51
But L3mst3r the cash gets divided up between all the clubs, rules are rules and it is not any other club's fault that Rangers have underachieved and therefore the fans merit a freebie or whatever. Reduce season tickets/game prices next season if they want to offer an apology for this season's efforts. As far as I'm concerned this could have been put to bed long before now and why are board pursuing it, to get you on board maybe? Good board - bad authority figures, hasn't that been the standard nonsense of the past few years? Just saying.

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06 May 2015 18:02:29
I always try and look at things from the view of the other party and I absolutely guarantee that if the roles were reversed and Celtic were in our shoes in the same situation, the sound of squealing coming from the East End would be deafening. Though considering Lawwell has both Doncaster and Regan in his pocket, the situation wouldn't even arise in the first place.

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06 May 2015 19:40:47
gaz I completely agree it's good for the other clubs and Scottish football that this money goes to them. The board are looking at number one and trying to do their job by giving us the best chance to qualify. But to be honest, every single one of those club took their chance to kick us while we were down. I don't have an us vs them mentality and don't get me wrong I am for sharing the money and charging the tickets, but I just think nobody does Rangers football club or fans a favour, why play the sporting integrity and good for Scottish football card For every other club. We get zero back. So from me a big F U to all those clubs that hate us coming back, all those clubs that voted to put us in the third division, all those clubs that slated us publically and do enjoy the Rangers comeback :)

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06 May 2015 20:02:58
L3 - couldn't have put it better myself. I agree 100%

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07 May 2015 00:15:56
Sure L3 but you said after a torrid season and as a reward, why should Rangers paying their way on something they signed up to be impacted by the team being utter crap for the better part of 9 months? Is that anyone else's fault? And as I said earlier why not have it impacting Rangers income sources next season when it's their own money and not a collectives? I've no problem with you guys being rewarded for your support this season, god knows it's merited but it should be done with Rangers cash not league cash. And as for that thing they signed up for, let's face it this season would be an unmitigated disaster without the play-offs, play-offs that evidently came at a price. A price that Rangers are now trying (with no logic) to welch out of paying. This just might be why the old "no one likes us" has some truth. Thing is, by the endless bleating I can see some of you really do care. :)

As for Noddy maybe Lawwell would complain, I don't know. I know I'd probably have been miffed till I furnished myself with the facts, then appreciated that it wasn't exactly in the same category as Hibs and you'd like to think at some point the Rangers board got well enough into the nuts and bolts of the story to appreciate the difference too. But then you think, hang on, a Rangers board getting the fans onside by making a few noises at the powers that be, no, that has never ever happened before. I'll save some of you the effort, that was sarcasm!

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07 May 2015 07:32:20
Think the term is 'kick me when I'm down'. We can all afford to act high and mighty and spouting rules and metaphorically caning Rangers ' arse yet again. I just wonder how many more obstacles will be put in this clyb's way under the guise of 'sporting integrity'. I'm not saying we've not been mince this season and we have the Gid given right to go up. What I'm saying is why not give us the chance to reward long suffering fans the way Hibs were allowed to do last year without any undue hoo-haa. Wonder what the decision would have been had Rangers been in Hibs ' position last year? I think we all know that though eh Gaz?

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07 May 2015 08:59:20
The point is Noddy YOU ARE NOT IN HIBS POSITION. So what you know (allegedly) doesn't really matter a damn, the situations are different, Hibs fans were already buying season tickets when the play-offs were announced, Rangers fans this season were not, everyone involved knew the structure, I dare say most of us didn't anticipate Rangers needing it, myself included. But just because they've been utter garbage doesn't mean everyone else gets a reduced amount to appease some of you. By all means reward it, reward it with Rangers finances not anyone else's. Is that so hard to accept? Even though the club signed up for it? It's remarkable, oh we've been crap, we want a chunk of the pie back, get real.

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07 May 2015 12:22:21
Only saying if we'd been in Hibs position last year and made the same application as they did to allow season ticket holders into their play off match against Hamilton for free, it wouldn't have been sanctioned. They only bend over for certain clubs. Only making a point (I know I'm stealing your paranoid thunder) - there's one rule for some clubs etc etc

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07 May 2015 14:03:46
That pesky word if. Man it gets in the way of so much. Because you can pretty much write any nonsense with it attached, as you just proved Noddy.

You don't know that, you can't prove it and what you've said isn't a point it's an opinion, a point is a fact, your nonsense isn't. IF only you knew the difference.

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07 May 2015 16:57:50
If you want to split hairs overs facts and opinions then ok, ya got me! So if I had included 'in my opinion' it wouldn't have been nonsense?
Ok - in my opinion, roles reversed, Rangers would not have been allowed to let season ticket holders in for free last year - in my opinion.

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07 May 2015 20:14:22
My only point on this was the money that was intended for most have us a kick when we were in a bad place. They have benefitted from our games and fans so in my bubble it evens out. Rules have been bent to accommodate other teams with regards to changing games etc but anytime we make a request it flatly gets rejected. True we agreed to it, we thought the proposal as a whole was acceptable maybe not every part.

I signed a contract at work last week, did I agree with every point - No. Have I broken some of the terms - Yes.

From a Rangers fan only point of view, do you think Rangers fans deserve a little back after the last 3 years? This was not just for this seasons bad performance but everything we have all been through and believe me sometimes it felt as if I was grieving with how much we all care for the club. It's not just a case of "we have had a shit season - let's take money from other clubs"

That isn't even the biggest reason they done it, look at the statement. They want more fans in to help the club through the playoffs. That is their job, to commercially look after Rangers best interests. Every club in Scotland looks after number 1. Why would the jeopardise our promotion for other clubs? We signed because we had too.

Anyways moot point because the board have played a blinder. Ibrox will be packed for the home game next Sunday and I look forward to seeing the blue sea of Ibrox with my fellow bears. Small victory against a blundering excuse for a footballing authority.

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07 May 2015 20:38:02
L3 a Rangers board making the authorities out to be the bad guy while in reality actually not doing very much, hmmm ring a bell? You could argue that £5 is underselling it and by rights not in the club's best interests, but what does anyone else know compared to the financial geniuses that have been been Rangers board members pretty much ad nauseum lately. So an early PR gesture with the authorities as the villains and the club in essence losing cash, yeah I'd be getting worried round about now, for some reason the song blinded by the light just jumped into my head too. Enjoy. :)

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07 May 2015 20:59:41
L3 I don't grudge you long suffering guys anything but look after the club's best commercial interests, this has been costed therefore? It's been worked out that say 40,000 @ £5 even 50,000 @ £5 is the top whack this can generate? £250k, no consideration for 30,000 @ £10m, 25,000 @ £15, anyone recall the price for the Scottish Cup and the attendance? Arguably less meaningful than this. It's a PR story to make the board look good the authorities bad and it makes Rangers bugger all cash, in other words it's no different from anything Whyte, Green etc etc etc have been doing for years.

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08 May 2015 00:43:16
Gaz, I need to first make 2 points. 1) I don't think the Authorities are the bad guy here as 2) They are well within their rights and considering the money goes into the clubs rather than them they are in the right.

I also really don't think this is a PR stunt, the current board will not work in the media and would prefer to get the standards back to the level they were before. An effort to get fans onside? more likely.

Rangers only made the request, the request was rejected and they subsequently charged. It was the media that made out rangers were defying the SFA, refer to the last statement from Rangers.

Commercial interests for 1 a one off game in comparison to 1 season in the SPL? no brainer, give the team the best possible chance to make that happen is looking after commercial interests and at the same time showing the board are not there to sponge from the fans. They will finance the club, rest assured.This is the only motive for the board, to get promotion and give something to the fans (the board are also fans) whilst not breaking the rules. The board have shown a lot of respect to the SPFL and the SFA in their short tenure.

As much as you would love The current board to be the same as the previous, this is just not true. They are fans, ex board members and part of other groups to take control from the beginning.

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