Rangers Banter Archive October 06 2018

 

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06 Oct 2018 20:17:38
Nothing will change how I feel about dk, but if SG and the team can produce the goods, as they did on Thursday, then I am a happy man. I still, and always will not trust dk, but he would appear to have got one thing right. In SG I trust.



06 Oct 2018 20:35:56
So Sad!

So we win the league, get to the semi in the europa, show a £5m profit next season and you still won’t change your mind about Dave King?

Did he rob your sweeties from you at school?



06 Oct 2018 21:19:21
Can't believe the stick that some aim at king. The man ousted ashley and his rats out our club, continues to fight for our club in courts against the rats, has backed every manager financially, he has cleaned our club to the core. Some people astound me🙃👍.



06 Oct 2018 21:42:52
Not a dig Billy but

Who would you trust Murray, Green, Whyte or maybe even Ashley?

I think a wee bit of credit for

Appointed Mark Allen (huge for me)
Appointed Stevie G (and team often forgotten)
Invested in youth set up
Hopefully got rid of fat Ashley
Found funds to invest quite heavily in squad (probably as much as Celtic last 2 years)
Would imagine has made us profitable this year.

There wasn't a list of people who would or will take over or invest but we might be a better prospect than when he took over

Point being as long as someone hides the microphone from him I'm happy for him to keep pushing us in the same direction. Hopefully he's right about Celtics pack of cards though.



06 Oct 2018 22:26:56
Coldo, there are one or two on here who have set out there stall against DK and cannot bear to admit they may have got it wrong.

Seems that they would actually prefer that we fail than to support DK.



06 Oct 2018 22:29:18
Simple fact is good business men are ruthless and dodgy, that's why they are good in business. Rightly said he has backed every manager and continues to do so, we are in the best shape since we were dropped into the 3rd division and in the Europa league group stages. I expect the league standings to look very different by the time we get to Christmas, we have to be more patient and we can't constantly over exaggerate good or bad results. We are improving and getting back to what we should be. We may not win the league but even if we don't I don't think we will be too far off it. Having said that we do need to send out a we message tomorrow.



06 Oct 2018 22:29:59
I don’t know where to begin with that, awful thread to start, Dave King is not everyone’s cup of tea I know but his loyalties and sentiment cannot be doubted. His methods are open to debate however what he has delivered both financially and the flack he has shouldered on our way from Jan15 with Llambias/ Summers is absolutely admiral and shame on you for not respecting the man! Furthermore he has delivered a manger who no one thought plausible when first suggested that we were ridiculed for even thinking it possible. remember that night DK was spotted at Anfield and the rumours started? This ridicule soon turned to acute fear and a propaganda campaign of which we have never seen the like. Stevie G, a flawed and reckless appointment blah, blah, blah. Well, we are one transfer window in and we are so far ahead of the curve that some of the Loyal are expecting the title however we are a fair bit off it as yet I feel, the mitigating factor here is that Celtic have gave us a sniff after another summer hoarding the biscuit tin and I’d say it isn’t impossible with what's on display every Saturday big I’m not yet shouting it from the rooftops. One thing o would say is that I’m encouraged by what I’ve seen so far and we are only 5 months in, Celtic are 4 transfer windows in and all I see is a Ronny Deila team playing in a Brendan Rodgers Style.

As eluded to earlier, DK style will not suit everyone but his experience of dragging things out for donkeys years through the courts will not change overnight and it seems he will seeoff some extremely big vultures on our behalf and for that I applaud you Sir!



06 Oct 2018 22:46:21
I am delighted how things are going on the park and would rather focus on that to be honest. What I would say is that it's the supporters who have put in most into the club.



07 Oct 2018 01:33:34
Get a grip . Some folk are never happy.



07 Oct 2018 01:54:49
Ye very true coldo if it wasn’t for king the fat man would still be draining our club also iit was down to him sg came to club personally meeting him and giving him assurances they want to give the guy a break.



07 Oct 2018 07:45:57
DK17 you must be deluded if you think rangers will get to the Europa semi final. I still believe we will go out at the group stages.



07 Oct 2018 14:12:34
Sweep think you have read that wrong he means the semi to the cup and it’s the negativity from people
Like you we don’t need so why do you think we will go out at the group stages.



06 Oct 2018
New image uploaded to the
Rangers Player Sightings page entitled, King George V presents Pte George McIntosh with his Victoria Cross at Ibrox Park Sept 1917. Great to see our club still support our military no matter their faith.



07 Oct 2018 07:35:45
Folks I have had many a debate with billy b and iom they like us r entitled to there opinion just like us.
I think we are progressing well but king also makes some mistakes ie kit deal.



07 Oct 2018 07:37:04
What do you mean " no matter their faith "?



07 Oct 2018 14:10:43
What faith is he? And more to the point, I don't think the club had ever had problems with a person's faith, it's some of the fans that do.



07 Oct 2018 12:14:52
Jyf, who you referring to re no matter their faith.



08 Oct 2018 16:21:30
Jboy21, what exactly did DK do wrong on the kit deal?

A short delay in selling the shirts after the £3m buyout and we are free from Ashley - worth it IMO.



06 Oct 2018 17:06:05
Very long season ahead, but domestically it has been a very poor start and we really must kick start that again 2moro. Nothing less than 3 points would be good enough. Hope gerrard does not tinker with side to much. Although worral had a good game on Thursday i would still prefer Katic in there. And he MUST go with morelos and 2 wide men. Cannot play lafferty and morelos together. Kent starting to cement his place in starting 11. Would like to see greza starting to break into side also. Ryan jack also back in swuad i think.



06 Oct 2018 18:17:48
Defo depends who’s back, If fit I’d like to see:

McGregor
Tavernier / Katic / Goldson / Barasic
Jack / Coulibaly
Kent / Dorrans / Grezda
Morelos

With Lafferty, Rossiter and Middleton from the bench, agree it’s a massive game mainly due to all the points dropped so far but also to lay a marker down. Defeat to Celtic going into the last international break was absolutely awful, anything less than a win tomorrow will feel like this wee spell between international breaks was disappointing however a win would make it a great spell!

My gut says 3-1 us, let's GO!



06 Oct 2018 19:19:52
Maybe tempted not to make too many changes think it's great to rotate the squad but got a big performance Thursday so keep the team relatively the same.

Definitely would use Lafferty against them at some point though.



07 Oct 2018 07:47:12
Flanagan is a better defender than tav and barasic.



07 Oct 2018 11:15:02
International break coming up, no need to rest guys, but if Stevie thinks he needs to rotate some players I've no problem with that, it keeps the team fresh.
Only thing that is important this weekend is to take 3 points off the leaders, and move on.



06 Oct 2018 14:20:54
whats your opinions on the new top?
my son just got his today and reckons its poor, too tight and sleeves too short.



06 Oct 2018 14:37:34
I personally think our new hummel home top is a cracking top mate. It is small made, as i had to move up a size from large to xl. Apart from that the top is cracking, IMHO!



06 Oct 2018 14:53:43
Get a bigger a size👍.



06 Oct 2018 14:53:51
Sounds like he needs to order a bigger one.



06 Oct 2018 14:54:36
Get a bigger size.



06 Oct 2018 16:24:49
Think he should maybe return it and get a bigger size 😃.



06 Oct 2018 17:25:42
yes the point being its small made and he reckons the quality isn't as good as past tops.



06 Oct 2018 18:33:58
Nothing wrong with the quality in my eyes, mbb21.Its small made, like a lot of manufactures! Just the way its made with the side panel inserts! Even the hummel training gear is very smart indeed!



06 Oct 2018 19:30:25
scares me now mines will need to move up a couple of xxes to fit my expanding size since i bought my last one.



06 Oct 2018 19:54:45
I got my top on Thursday and wore it for the first time and think it’s smart and is a great fit. I like the design too.

Only negative has been how long it took to arrive but It was worth the wait, ordered it online vie Gers store.



06 Oct 2018 21:23:11
Ordered mine 2 weeks ago still no delivery man.



06 Oct 2018 13:48:52
Anybody watching the Leeds v brentford gsme? The holding midfielder for Brentford mokotjo (no12) looks outstanding. Not saw him misplace a pass yet and winning every loose ball, Brentford are a cracking team to watch never punt it always looking for wee passes into feet couple of players worth keeping an eye on.



06 Oct 2018 14:27:14
Just had a flashback to the warburton days 😰😓.



06 Oct 2018 14:39:06
Dean smith the brentford manager is a good manager and has his players playing football, the proper day!



06 Oct 2018 16:53:58
Really pleasing on the eye coops.



06 Oct 2018 12:30:04
Wish hearts game was today as I'm very confident of a win. Very early stages of league but this win is a must. We can't be having a good euro run and forget about our bread and butter. League to me is more important.



06 Oct 2018 16:50:56
A win is a must or we are 7th place.



06 Oct 2018 16:58:46
Quite happy with our game tomorrow Cf, but starting to worry as Dons, Hibs, Motherwell all winning easy so far specially Livie getting beat after beating us.



06 Oct 2018 19:38:35
Livingston never got beat.



06 Oct 2018 22:55:54
We only move up 1 place if we win tomorrow, it's the next few months that have to be good starting with tomorrow we have to be relentless and put together 5, 6,7 wins and start getting real momentum and prove that we should be feared.



06 Oct 2018 23:56:22
Motherwell 'won easy' and Livingston got beat? That'll be my coupon beat then, I had them to draw with each other.



07 Oct 2018 14:15:36
Hi What nonsense, I know now they never got beat, but look at my post time it was before half time. Even then they only drew at full time, sorry for that. let's hope we turn the domestic corner on top of the table Hearts today, cause apart from the money the Europa league is a hindrance to us in my opinion.



07 Oct 2018 14:16:45
Sorry dutycalls, your coupon's OK, was saying "SO FAR" as I posted before half time before they drew. Take it you saw the Dons an Hives full time scores tho. But up an at em Hearts today I HOPE.



06 Oct 2018 12:16:44
Hi Bears,
Not wanting to put a dampener on the result, now the dust has sort of settled let's take a look at the game with level heads, with pros and cons.

Cons:
1. Arfield was dreadful.
2. Worrall, slow to clear with the ball at his feet. Katic!
3. Tav, countless wasted deliveries.
4. Ojaria, lost position in dangerous positions and final pass was questionable.
5. Lots of incorrect decision and passes in the final third from all, not enough shooting.
6. They nearly scored a header early on and had a couple of scrappy skirmishes in our box.
7. Candias - out muscled.

Pros:
1. Our fitness is 120% eg the third goal and RV had effectively given up at 65 mins, they were done.
2. Fredo was world class
3. Goldson was outstanding
4. Coulaby was back to his game.
5. Kent was terrific.
6. Tav, 1 perfect delivery and balls of steel penalty=2 goals. Okay will put up with him❤ but Kents delivery from corners at the start of the season, left or right were wicked, should be allowed to offer in that area.
The rest were good enough to play for Rangers. (thats the minimum standard)
All i'm trying to say is Rapid are not the best team right now and that result, great that it was, might lull us and the team into a false sense of security as Hearts will be a tougher opponent at the weekend. I will hopefully eat my word come Monday.

We are in danger of underestimating SPL opposition and over estimating Europa league opponents.

I still "fear" the Hearts game as a born and bread Ranger for 46 years, that's NOT RIGHT!



06 Oct 2018 13:23:08
You fear the hearts game? All the ibrox performances have been great, it's the away form that needs to improve.



06 Oct 2018 13:34:12
Are you having a laugh, arfield never stopped driving us forwardown, Worrall was outstanding only behind Kent n morelos for mom in my eyes. EjarIa outstanding always probing did u see turn n pass for pen decision? For point 6 it's Europe they are all good teams n going to get half chances. And candies work rate was outstanding did you not see him chasing down his own clearance winding it backnowledged and putting morelos through for 3rd in injury time? I worry about what people on here watch sometimes.



06 Oct 2018 13:50:45
😂😂😂😂 starts off with a list of cons.

Never known such a negative support in my life. It’s gettif worse the better we get.



06 Oct 2018 14:41:29
TJBB best make a docs appointment and get the meds upped. Never read such shoite👍, candieas out muscled? Did you not see our 3rd goal? Tav countless wasted deliveries? Did you not see our 1st goal? Ejaria wasted passes? Did you not see our 2nd goal? We had 9 shots scoring 3 of them and the keeper made a great save from ejaria which tav delivered, 77% pass accuracy, 55% possession, we won 74% of the tackles👍 not bad from a team from pot 4👍. As I said, never read so much shoite👍👏😂.



06 Oct 2018 14:59:22
TJBB

WTF were you watching? You need to get a grip - as I've said before, 5 years olds have an opinion on everything but in the big boy's world it doesn't count for much!

I prefer to listen to our managers view of the players.



06 Oct 2018 15:05:45
Well said BearMode91 you beat me to it why create a cons list after our best performance of the season, unbelievable!

Probably same person who said worrrall was f&@king horrible after one poor game against Livingston.



06 Oct 2018 16:02:03
FFS, can never please some people
What would be required to earn credit?
Team did really well against good opposition
Let’s just be proud now the dust has settled.



06 Oct 2018 16:09:54
I agree that there was faults in the vienna game but there is faults in all games that we win or lose. Why go to such length to pick out the negatives especially when it's such a great result. . Take the result and celebrate it. The manager will deal with any faults. I'm certainly not feart of the hearts game. I think it will be comfortable for us. If away then I would feel different. Gerrard next step is to start winning away as well. Get that right and we will win the league.



06 Oct 2018 16:35:11
1. Arfield was not dreadful and never stopped running and moving and showing for the team, he wasnt outstanding but not dreadful.
2. Worral was outstanding, you go on to praise Goldson but Worrall was better than him, even though Goldson did fine.
3. Tavs deliveries were poor over all on the night but he did lay the opener on a plate for the buffalo, he played a great ball for Ejaria which their keeper did well to save and the penalty was top notch.
4. Ojaria had a questionable first half but his link up play in particular with Kent in the second have was outstanding and he grew and grew the longer the game went on.
5. I agree i'd like us to have a pop at goal from outside the box once in a while, the fact we rarely do it makes us a bit predictable.
6. Mcgregor had so little to do he popped over and gave an Austrian lassie his number for after the game, one half chance header and a goal that shouldn't have been allowed - they created nothing else.
7. Candeias doesn't get the credit he deserves, Tav can't be as useful going forward without the selfless work rate and movement of this guy and his awareness and skill setting up the 3rd goal was genius.

Our Supporters have to get a grip on reality, after all the years of suffering we are on the up and all we hear is negative drivel.

perfect example is Morelos so far this season we have had - Scores (worth 10 million) scores again (worth 15 million) gets sent of (we should have took 7 million) scores (worth 20 million) doesn't score (get him to **** play lafferty) scores (world class) - ten hThe guy behind me in the main stand on Thursday night said Ejaria was "the worst he had ever seen in a Rangers Jersey" (I promise he did say that)

Get behind the team.



06 Oct 2018 16:42:54
Can we just enjoy the result what's the point in starting post with a list of negatives which IMO are wrong not sure what game you're reviewing.



06 Oct 2018 21:27:18
The only reason I posted this was Gerrard and support said this was our best performance and all 11 were an 8+. I disagree we have performed better in previous games and some players were -8. I spent the first half of that game shouting at the players and frustrated, RV were pish, don't forget that. The post was a critic from my point of view, worthless I know.

All good teams look for ways to perfect there play and not rest, SG's mantra was be obsessed and look for ways to improve, if you as a support think that was perfect, we are in trouble. I would have hoped for some decent replies on our weaknesses and what you think might improve us. Livine will have watched that and picked it a part just as our whole management team will. Even Barcelona can improve. don't you think we can improve. WATCH IT BACK I STAND BY MY COMMENTS 100%.



06 Oct 2018 22:37:43
And I stand by my comments, you are still talking 100% shoite👍.



06 Oct 2018 23:09:20
I do think Arfield was average, I think he has played like that a few times. Then I think maybe it's because I want him to be taking shots beating men and slipping little balls through, is that his game though? Probably not, therefore we need someone who can do that. Maybe we are being a little unfair on him as he does work very hard, he is also capable of nice through balls just doesn't do it enough and I too would like to see us shoot more. We are always looking for an extra touch or an extra pass but that's in general not specifically about the rapid game. Make no mistake they may not be a great outfit but they certainly aren't a poor side, that was a very good result we just need to produce that type of result more consistently especially away from home.



07 Oct 2018 00:27:43
Rapid Vienna are far from pish mate. We are in the group stages of europa league there's no Diddy teams in it they are all there on merit. I think Gerrard got it spot I reckon an 8 for every player was about right. Do you expect teams not to have chances or shots on goal against us because that's just stupidity, trust me we play as well as that the rest of season we will be hard to stop.



06 Oct 2018 11:18:02
A good performance on Thursday even though with all the possession we still didn't create a lot of chances, the atmosphere was excellent and really pushed the team on I only wish it was like that in the league because the atmosphere can be poor.



06 Oct 2018 17:19:00
Wow . we've all waited a long long time for the European nights to come back to ibrox. Let's not pick it apart facts are we won, we played well enough said. We move our focus to hearts and just take things one game at a time . Look at where we are and where we were. Enjoy the great times and appreciate them.



07 Oct 2018 14:05:12
great post gallows 83, we have done really well to get to europa league, look at where we were. finally club making money instead of losing money. the rangers name back in Europe. great nights at Ibrox again. if we qualify from group stages fantastic what an achievement on the budget Gerrard has worked with.

maybe our league form has suffered because of heavy schedule. you can see the improvement under Gerrard. were not going to win europa league so let's enjoy the moment.



06 Oct 2018 09:12:10
when was the last time rangers went 10 games unbeaten in europe?
great night on thursday what a finish to a game.



06 Oct 2018 11:47:35
If we keep getting the results in Europe then it will do our co-efficient no harm at all, Scotland NEEDS a strong Rangers, let's hope we get one.



06 Oct 2018 12:27:35
I'd rather we went 10 or more unbeaten on the domestic front mbb21. Not complaining though.



06 Oct 2018 21:46:28
4 disagrees to we’ve waited a long time and we should enjoy it?



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06 Oct 2018 08:05:06
Is it just me or was that run that Ryan Kent made into the box against rapid vienna "messiesque"? I was alittle sceptical about him first few games but recently he has been excellent and should be one of the first names on the team sheet along with McGregor and goldson. We will have ups and downs but what a difference Gerrard has made in such a short space of time! It finally feels good to be a rangers fan again. A good win against hearts and we are right back in the mix for the league aswell. Happy days! 🇬🇧🔴⚪🔵🇬🇧.



06 Oct 2018 08:01:40
Teams progressing to group stage from UEFA Europa League first qualifying round
Fulham (2011/ 12), Rosenborg (2012/ 13, 2015/ 16), Twente (2012/ 13), Tromsø (2013/ 14), Gabala (2015/ 16, 2016/ 17), Crvena zvezda (2017/ 18), Maccabi Tel-Aviv (2016/ 17, 2017/ 18), Skënderbeu (2017/ 18), Apollon Limassol (2018/ 19), København (2018/ 19), Rangers (2018/ 19), Sarpsborg (2018/ 19)

From this list only Crvena zvezda (Red Star Belgrade) made it out of group stages but didn't get past round of 32.

Getting ahead of myself as we still have a lot of work to do to get out of group but just shows how much SG and players have achieved already. What an achievement it would be to get us out of the group stages!

Another little fact 23 matches for us if a miracle happened and we made it all the way. You only needed 9 back in old European cup format. Begs the question would a Scottish team winning Europa league now better anything achieved previously in Europe?



06 Oct 2018 08:17:48
T increase in games came about from a suggestion by Rangers Secretary Campbell Ogilvie; me games =more money even if you didn't win a single game.
You are right fewer games makes it easier same as Celtic's 9 in a row they only had to play the team (s) likeliest to beat them twice had to take on teams four times.



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06 Oct 2018 06:04:42
€3.5 already banked
€560k For win
€190k For draw
€1.5m to qualify as group winners or €1m to qualify extra.



06 Oct 2018 05:35:16
Does anyone know how much Rangers get for a win / draw in the Europa ?



06 Oct 2018 05:58:42
For a win its €560.000 and a draw as i can remember €190.000 an extra €1.000.000 guarented For qulification with a extra carrot of €500.000 For group winners 10 points will win group so say 1.87m + 0.5m + 1m = 3.37m on top of 3.5m we have already banked in euros.



06 Oct 2018 08:10:03
Not to mention gate receipts of around £1.5 million per home match.



06 Oct 2018 08:19:45
Pdot
I know you said not to mention gate money but I will -do we keep all home gate or have to share it?



06 Oct 2018 11:21:25
Not a share gate money is ours as far as I'm led to believe can't see anything saying it is shared.



06 Oct 2018 11:25:24
50,000 x 35= 1.75 m per game x3 home games so over 5m in gates just in group stage in well needed revenue. Hopefully if stevi g wants a striker in jan, which I personally think we need for squad depth then he will get it. He's certainly earned it by getting us there.



06 Oct 2018 12:29:53
Fb too simplistic your sums. Concessions and kids much cheaper.
some tickets dearer for non season ticket holders, so average 30 a ticket. Still 4.5 circa, plus prize money.

Four qualifiers made us approx 4 million in gate money, 2 million for qualifying for group, add 670k prize money plus tv deals we get for home ties.
BT deal only kicked in group stages
So anything between 12- 15 million till December.
I feel we will qualify so more money to be made.
Add in strip money and share issue we are progressing.



 
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