Rangers Banter Archive September 06 2013

06 Sep 2013 21:37:54
Lee Wallace is a far better left back than Steven Whittaker, I don't care what league he's playing in, Whittaker is garbage.

Whittaker is not a left back, never has been. Being played out of position. Not unusual for a Scotland player.

@1 he's a terrible right back aswell.

06 Sep 2013 22:24:07
I don't believe Whittaker is any kind of player, i'm not saying he, s terrible, altho he certainly can be, but i'm saying he isn't a team player, never was at Rangers, always looking for that big strike, is capable of scoring a peach occasionally, but got us put out of Europe by trying to dribble out of defence, (remember him turning back with the ball when it simply needed to be passed to a defender 10 yrds from him ) very arrogant player, not what you want in a team like scotland, he's one of those players who have made a great living out of football because he is very naturally fit, thus is able to run up and down big parks for 90 mins, many simply can't do that, Tommyblue

I'm a better left-back than Whittaker, but then everyone is.

Blueice

Whittaker is one of the poorest defenders I have ever seen at Ibrox and I have been going since the late seventies. How Strachan plays him let alone out of position is beyond me and its no surprising that in the last 2 internationals the weak link was left back. Staggering that a professional footballer can have no positional sense and can't tackle gets a game in one I the best leagues in Europe and for his national team.

Would you lot be saying this if Whittaker had typed over? Doubt it! Wallace knew his international fate when he decided to play lower league football!

"Wallace knew his international fate when he decided to play lower league football!", What a load of s****, I would much prefer to play a player who is getting picked every week for his team and getting "MATCH FIT" (even in the lower league's) than one who is signed for a team playing in a much bigger league but can't even make the bench never mind the pitch. So what is being said is if Wallace had signed for a premiership team but couldn't get a game that he would be a better player and would be first pick for Scotland. It cannot even be said that the player in the higher league is training at a higher level because Wallace is training at one of the best facilities in the UK, and is training as part of one of the best squads in Scotland regardless of what league they play in. There's to much politics in Scottish football and I thought with the appointment of Strachan that he would rise above it, but it seems that he has been swallowed up by it and welcome back the SAME SCOTLAND, brave fighting nearly men.

07 Sep 2013 01:19:40
Come on people be fair yes whitaker isn't a left back but garbage he is not, would people be saying this if he hadn't left Rangers and still played for us? I can't help think there is a bit of sour grapes out there, sorry but just my opinion!

07 Sep 2013 00:29:39
@6, ERM yes actually, most of us were saying this way before he left Rangers, try and get over your hate and post sensibly m8, or don't bother, its not clever simply to say the same things over and over again, again the answer to your silly question is YES
tommyblue

Wallace is a decent player and one of the best Scottish full backs playing in Scotland


WGS has made a judgement that he is behind two inconsistant eejits in his selection process - where does that leave Wallace.

@8 Whittaker and mo edu were the 2 biggest waste of spaces at ibrox at that time imo.

I say let Wallace stay on the bench. Keep him fighting fit for the more important matters like rfc. This qualifying campaign ended before it started practically. Don't want Wallace being injured on int duty.

@9 wind your neck in its all about opinion or if I don't agree with you it's not sensible no hate involved discussion pleb!

Lee wallace is in the top 2 left backs in the uk

@14 what you been drinking, don't think clubs were rushing to Ibrox in the transfer window to sign him.

@14 he's good but not that good mate. Cole, Clichy, Baines, Evra, Vertongen Luke Shaw probably even Danny Rose are all better.

Larky Bear

07 Sep 2013 20:55:11
Wallace is a great left back, and for all you lot shouting about not playing a player from lower league, I didn't hear any complaints when Hutton was playing for Scotland but had not played a game for his team in a full season so stop the crap if u play well then u should have a chance to prove u r good enough at international level look at the English league 1 players in the Scotland team?? WATP

07 Sep 2013 22:40:22
@13, sorry? its about opinion is it? I don't recall you giving an opinion m8? I recall, and its here in type, That you said "would you all say that if he hadnt tuped over ", apart from the fact you made an arse of the spelling, you never gave any opinion,? you made an accusation, while asking a question, which was rather nasty, so get your facts straight pal before telling us its about opinions, some of us know that, you didn't give one, and as for pleb,? well "typed over "? do you know what the word pleb is? and again most gers people where never convinced by Whittaker ok, just my opinion like,
tommyblue {The Ed039's Note - I am glad your rant is over Tommy, but what is the big nasty against Whittaker, the guy is no world beater but I think he is a very decent player and worthy of doing a job but I do agree that Wallace is better than him)

For the moment Wallace is a third tier full back. If he has any ambition he would have left for a bigger clud. Come to think of it who wanted to sign him- answer no one

08 Sep 2013 05:29:01
Ed soz for the rant, I never said Whittaker was rubbish, I said he can be, and that many gers fans were never convinced by him, I think it had a lot to do with him forever looking to shoot when a cross was required, I don't think he, s crap, just not a great LB
cheers

@19 how do you know no one wanted to sign him?

Personally I always thought Whits was undervalued at Rangers some of his goals were amazing Sporting Lisbon away win brilliant, ok not the best defender we had but a talented and as Walter Smith proved invaluable squad man. I do not believe we should be slagging any former greats I AM WITH Mr Crozier 100% on the support thing. george

Whittaker is a former great now is he?

21)
The desparate finances at Govan mean that any interest in the boy would be welcome

He is a half decent prospect, and the jewel in Allys crown - but any bid that gives hard cash into the coffers and takes out a high earner (12k - 15k + per week) is going to be jumped at.

06 Sep 2013 10:05:18
A lot of comments are going on around doing just enough in this and no more - nonsense!

Ally is not really bringing in players for this season but next - we all know we will win this league - that is a given. It is however how we win it that the cogent point - nothing else matters!

We must win this league with such conviction, such commitment; such passion and such a large margin.

We now have to show the world who we are, and that we are on our way back. We need to try and take maximum points from all our games.

We now must make the next league take notice and start looking over their shoulders.

Ally is building a team not for today, tomorrow or next week but for the SPFL - this team will continue to evolve, change and improve.

Onwards and Upwards!

I AM Rangers!

Simples.

Wil take another IPO to buy a team to challenge in the top league and qualify for Europe. Rangers directors on record saying so.

OP, more head in the sand stuff. Are you not aware that some league reconstruction took place over the summer. Your team are already in the SPFL.
As for the signings, my take on them is that Ally's main ability as a manager is to realise that he is not a good manager and needs a SPFL Premiership (keep up) level squad to guarantee winning the SPFL League 1 (still with me?).
Poster 2 is also correct. With Ally's managerial abilities, another IPO would be required to buy an EPL quality side to allow him to compete in the SPFL premiership because Ally's tactical know how is limited to using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

Al (the original one)

At least 3 years before we need to worry about Europe. the increase in revenue and seasons books over the next couple of years will be enough to co0mpete in and win spfl premier.
considering celtic sell their team every year just to survive.
we don't need to so therefor a dawdle.

barebum.

Ive said before that the rangers team in september is as good as any team in the top flight

@5 I take it you never meant Celtic?

@3 Do you know something we don't
as your comment says a EPL quality
side? lol
billy h

Youre right as usual Matt. I am an international spy and my worldwide contacts tell me that Palauan peasants, Venezuelan villagers and Angolan agriculturalists to name but few are scanning their local papers and surfing the net to see how Scotland's newest team are faring in their second season.

@4 Argha, Pmsl, Lol, he, I have not laughed so much you have really made my wknd, Pure comedy gold.

4)
barearse - unlike Rangers - who did not sell any players

And did not survive!

Mind the gap

@10 mind the gap? That saying is as old as my granny, give us some new material cause that is garbage.

@7 Try reading my post again before lol-ing. The point is that Ally knows he can't compete on a managerial level against anyone else (even against SFL3 managers as was the case last season) and has to spend above his means in order to compete (sounds like another club that used to play at Ibrox). Therefore, in order to compete in the SPFL premiership he would need a team a level of quality above what he is playing against, e. g. EPL. I could easily have said La Liga or Bundeslige. If you are happy with the club spending more money that they make season after season, then that's fine with me.

Al (the original one)

p. s. If you want me to spell out any other posts in simple terms you can understand, just let me know.

Al here again. In case the pedants jump on my back, 'that' should read 'than' in post 12; i. e. ". more money than they make. ".

N12 how could he not compete with managers last season his team won the league by somme distance ya dafty

@14, read my post again before calling me a dafty. I am well aware that he won the league, but so could I have with the team he had and the silly money wages for a bottom tier club, compared to the opposition.
That is my point, in order to win that league he used overkill, as he is doing this season.
Anyone up for a share issue this December to cover players' wages?

Al

Celtic ; gate income and sponsorship income way above any team in Scotland. 25 million cl income and 27 million transfer income in last year. 6 New players who would walk into any team in Scotland bought for about 8 million. Qualified for cl group stages again guaranteeing 15 million more. I make that income at about 107 million over the 2 years since rangers bankruptcy. That's the size of the gap. So you will be hearing plenty more of it. Brown said 160 million to celtic thru rangers bankruptcy. More like 300 million. And celtic fans watch ac milan, barcelona, Ajax, juventus etc while you watch forfar and brechin and your directors embarrass you arguing over 80 grand in public.
What's not to like?

06 Sep 2013 01:58:16
Hi my fellow bears, just a quick thought here are we all being gullible here with Zalukas, with everybody thinking right that's our new signing the cb ally has been crying out for? After all he is only training with us and let's all think back to the last 6 months to a year all the players that have trained with us even had trials with us and nothing has happened with these players and am not on about a few there has been at least 15 plus probably more and that's not including the novo's miller's boyd's lovenkrands just to name a small few, don't get me wrong if we can't get pandza I would more than welcome Zalukas but I just think we are just jumping the gun a bit with players training supposed to be joining and nothing happening, what does my fellow bears think about this? PB plz

My bet is to go with what we have for now till January Alex and wait and see what is available and how things upstairs are then, who knows some of the younger players might just improve rapidly in a higher class of football, we sometimes forget the division we were in has always been basically junior level, and pretty brutal too, and that maybe wasnt the place to develop for these young guys, its only an opinion, we should hang fire for now Tommyblue

Moshni was a trialist n he's done no too bad.

So you'd have liked us just to take everyone we have on trial on board? That's why they get Trials to check them out & I think many bears are Happy with Zaluikas like you said, so it could very well happen but I believe Gasparrotto deserves a chance now before Cribari & possibly even Jig at the back, it's his natural position & it comes very natural to the Lad. I know that this will not be the case though & the boy won't see much action this season. Mohsni, Faure, Jig & Cribari have those places nailed down. When you look at it what is the need for a new Defender I know we were crying out for them but i'd say its covered & there's competition there. Wait till next season get the right one in. Faure & Mohsni could be the guys to do it for us though congrats Seb Faure Keep it up big man you've proved your doubters wrong early this season me being one of the biggest haters long may it continue.

Larky Bear