Rangers Banter Archive August 07 2011

07 Aug 2011 23:20:21
ed nothing to do with transfer but i was just wondering if u know what that song was called rangers fan sing when they turn around and do a type of huddle for a minute or so coz im sure we are not supposed to be singing that song just incase u know the name of it or anyone else ? {Ed003's Note - Errrm,not sure if I'm allowed to let you know }

Aye i know what the song the rangers fans sing, mate, its called "money's to tight to mention" by craig whyte and not simply red lol

bigstevie

07 Aug 2011 23:14:29
Just want to say cheers for the rangers fans who posted on the Celtic site wishing izzy a speedy recovery.

GaryBhoy88

True....Miko

07 Aug 2011 23:06:41
07 Aug 2011 22:08:26
Den Haag have just accepted a 2.2 million bid from Rangers. Looks like reports from Holland were premature and that he'll move to Scotland now. Source:Ado Den Haag website

Copied and pasted from the notts forrest page. Hope its true

Just checked both sites. Nonsense mate.

NJ

FUNNY I COULDNT SEE IT TRY SSN THEY ARE SAYIN MEDICAL TOM....AT NOTTS FOR I WISH IT WAS TRUE THOUGH

Just checked the Forrest page - nothing there

Also check ADO page - its Dutch so couldn't make anything out

I smell bs

Why have you posted this exact same thing on nottingham forrests rumour page as well , and doesnt say anything of this on Ado Den Haag website , why post this tosh really give your self a shake, at least back it up with a link

Bulls**t nothing on either page

Lies not there

07 Aug 2011 22:51:27
I seriously think rangers fans are sick of being lied to by both manager and chairman alike
ver hoek has gone to forrest apparently

Forest have agreed 2million euros deal. I think if we outbid them he'll come to us cos WERE SIMPLY THE BEST LOL. Dunkie Bear

Seriously is there any chance that we will outbid , it comes across that were just making bids for sake of it without any real intention of being successful, well that's the way it looks from outside anyway .

07 Aug 2011 22:48:07
Ref
Well if you get ur specs on and look ull see were 5th and only played 2 games anyway haha

You said it pal, not me, lol.......5th
As Yogi said to booboo on a number of occasions, I'm smarter than the average bear Hail Hail....Miko

Ed you allow that halfwit miko the timmy to make comments slagging rangers but you will not allow gers fans right of reply to this celtic person are you a secret tim yourself i, m on to you WATP ALWAYS READY
{Ed047's Note - Not responsible for these posts above. i wasn't online at that time, however I will always allow Miko and Timalloy to post here AND I will always allow Bears to respond so long as it isn't abusive. Next time you accuse me of being a Bhoy I'll edit your posts to make it look like you're a bigger Bhoy than Miko

07 Aug 2011 22:40:48
yous are doing my head in yous don't have faith in whyte well a do and when wee win the league you are gonna be eating your words f***sake get behind the guy and support him

Are u actually craig whyte

YOU DO REALISE WE HAVE LOST A STUNNING PLAYER FOR 150K TO GO TO NOTTS FOR, TOTAL BALLS, IM BEHIND COISTY ALL THE WAY , WHYTE IS HE BEHIND COISTY

Cant even think of what to say except you've obviousley been on the super super strength eccy's

No a totally agree about verhoek he is a really good player but all am saying is give him a chance and am sure wee will get in good players whyte is already saying wee need fresh blood in so just give him a chance and for super ally he will do a brilliant job cmon the gers 4 in a row

07 Aug 2011 22:36:06
Verhoek due in Nottingham tomorrow for his medical sky sports news another one bites the dust all because we wouldn't go the extra couple of hundred thousand. I dont know about anyone else but I'm getting well pi""Ed off with this. I see miller was off to a flyer today for Cardiff and Goodwillie scored for Blackburn

Hope this gives whyte the kick up the ass thats needed conway also looked comfortable, losing good players for not a lot of money potential matchwinners, which we are seriously short of WATP

For the sake of £400k we lost miller, for the sake of £300k we will lose verhoek, for the sake of £300k we lost goody. £1m has cost us CL. And we are meant to believe that there is £10m available, my @rse

07 Aug 2011 22:25:53
Really annoyed by the fact we're messing around in the transfer market offering peanuts for quality players that are actually affordable to us. Right now I fear the worst for the Gers as we're playing poor football and the squad is bare. Before anyone jumps down my throat I know it's early in the season and there's plenty of time left to buy players in this window, but we just appear to be desperate in all fronts at the moment. Dunkie Bear

07 Aug 2011 22:18:18
Verhoek having medical at Notts Forest tomorrow sky sports news

07 Aug 2011 21:27:46
Wish we'd just pay the sum for Juhasz, the guy clearly has a desire to play for the bears, something I think we're lacking at the moment. The Dutch boy seems just as keen, this is what we need, too many passengers at Rangers just now.
Also think we should reserve judgement on Ortiz until he gets a few games out on the right, his natural position. I understand my fellow bears frustrations, but we just need to stick by our team. That's what we should be doing no matter what happens Yes our voices should be heard, and they will be, but come on bears, stand together.
W.A.T.P

07 Aug 2011 21:11:46
apart from jelavic and davis and wallace can anyone think of an outfield player who has played well for us this season?

Papac

Steven whitaker

Emmmm naisy ffs

Wallace......cause he's new? played well against St jOHNSTONE now that is world class, did he do better than Papac?

07 Aug 2011 21:05:36
SIGN VERHOEK NOW OR WE WIL NOT SCARE ANY TEAM THIS SEASON.

HOW CAN THEY NOT SEE THAT HE IS EXACTLY THE PLAYER WE BLOODY NEED?

GET HIM OR GET CRAP

Aye mate coz shouting that on here is going to make craig whyte pay the money haha whyte is a person he wont spend any big money we only need 3 players juhasz, verhoek and murphy and then either bedoya just now or in january

Couldn't have said it better myself

Aye, good shout, but the point is, we'll not get Verhoek or juhasz ya daftie....it's 'kid on' bids have you not realised that yet.

07 Aug 2011 21:02:13
Does anyone know how long till Lafferty's back? never heard how his operation went

07 Aug 2011 20:57:39
Was really impressed with bendiksen when he came on on Saturday, he's had a really bad time with injuries so good luck to the lad this season, also thought Hutton played well, thought Macmillan had a good game but felt he would b better at centre half. Broadfoot must go, can't believe he had the gaul to come out and demand first team football

He had one decent touch then faded, lets not get carried away.
BR

07 Aug 2011 20:43:12
ED;how much have we bid {Ed024's Note - For which player?

07 Aug 2011 20:35:26
RANGERSNEWS ,
Wesley verhoek will join nottingham forest in the next 48 hours after a medical , around 2m another target missed out on? ASWEDE...

Why can't we just pay for him- He would be great {Ed024's Note - Rangers bid £1.7m in installments plus add ons, I don't think Whyte has any faith in Ally's player choices so wants to be careful with the limited funds we have. Have you seen him play?

Is mr Whyte trying to sicken the fans we are told we are after this one and that one but we won't pay the asking price so we don't get our targets we are getting fed up with it all (I'm a season ticket holder)

I have seen him play a few times one wee thing bothering me is Napoli bid 8mill for him last year why havent they come back in 2-3 mill nust be a bargain for somebody you thought was worth 8

07 Aug 2011 20:25:12
Roland Juhasz wants to be a Rangers player by tomorrow night according to Sky Sports news......Rangers target Roland Juhasz hopes a fee can be agreed in time for the UEFA Europa League registration deadline.

The 28-year-old Hungarian defender is on Ally McCoist's wish-list but current club Anderlecht are said to want �5million (£4.4m) for his services.

Juhasz would like to move to Glasgow and hopes a deal can be done in time to meet the Europa League registration deadline of 11pm on Monday evening.

He told www.origo.hu: "I can feel that Rangers want me very much, the two clubs' standpoints are now not far off each other.

"I hope they will agree by Monday. I would like to sign to another club because I need a new challenge after my six years at Anderlecht."
Future

Juhasz added he would like to sign a three or four year contract for McCoist's side - and he would also like to play in England in future.

"Money is not important for me. If money was the motivation then I could've signed to another club but then my international career would be over, " he added.

"At the age of 28 the most important thing for me is to play in the national team and to play in a club which fights for the championship title.

"But my next station won't be my final station. In the future I could also sign to a club in England which is an easier task from Glasgow than from Brussels."
RFC1873....Get this one in Rangers.

07 Aug 2011 20:17:43
my mate was in hospitality at fir park today hes a well fan he said he spoke to ally mccoist who was there with mcdowell and sitting nxt to joe jordan my mate sat in seat right behind them and also in players lounge after game mccoist was in there for around 30 mins having a blether with stuart mccall ... maybe looking at murphy who knows but my mate said he made a joke to ally that he needs to get his cheque book out if he wants murphy as he played a blinder today . ally just laughed .... my mate is well in with people at fir park is a big well fan

07 Aug 2011 20:00:19
Anyone else think that the players we are publicly declaring an interest in are just a distraction so we can pursue our real targets - I mean with the actual signings we have made there were very little rumors made b4 they were announced.

Bring on 4iar

BlantyreGer

Here's hoping

07 Aug 2011 19:56:24
seen that swansea have put 2.1 million bid in for dutch boy wesley verhoek , another bites the dust?

07 Aug 2011 19:55:16
Can anyone explain to me, why the young lad Hemmings, who was flung on to save our champions league future on Wednesday night, despite never having featured in the SPL (which i thought was a crazy substitution), never even got a minute of action against Chelsea, despite not having Whittaker, Mc Culloch, Bougerra Papac in the squad either.....if this was the guy who was meant to save our Euro tie, surely you would expect to see him in a friendly, as he also needs match time......Ally's sub decisions are a joke so far, against Hearts, Malmo home and away and even in the friendly yesterday. {Ed024's Note - Ally clutching at straws

You've got a point there

07 Aug 2011 19:44:31
rangers will match den haags £2m asking price for wesley we are £300k short from our last offer

07 Aug 2011 19:36:36
We dnt have any money guys it's obvious, why bid more for Goodwillie once he is a Blackburn taking medical? It's to make it look like we have money - whyte knew the deal was gone. If we lose verhoek it's really pathetic. We have spent next to nothing when you factor in Bougy and Adam money.

Whyte - go away, ur not wanted, we want someone who will actually invest in out club and not buy us for a £1. The debt is still there we owe Craig whyte's company. I really dnt know what his game is

07 Aug 2011 19:15:22
verhoek going to fulham

07 Aug 2011 19:05:25
Hi ed is there s dead line to sign someone for Europe if so we should move for 3 players they are juhasz, templeton , and Murphy what do you think ed {Ed003's Note - Not sure,think it's 24hrs before 1st leg,I'll put up a post when I find out mate}

07 Aug 2011 18:53:53
I honestly find it difficult to believe any player would want to go to a midtable championship team over the Scottish Champs. I've not looked into the rumours on this page, but has he said that he wants to go to Nott's over us (regardless of the fact we haven't had a bid accepted). Obviously the chance of promotion into the premier league is understandable. But Forest aren't going to get promoted and we have a good chance of winning the league. How can players be so unambitious? watp

Maybe because mid championship is far far better quality than the s**t we have up here week in week out.

27, 000 at Derby County yesterday and they are 'very' mid table

He has ambitions, that's why he wants to go to Forest We made the playoffs the last 2 seasons with an average side, we have added quality and still adding to it. We will be there or there abouts this season. You play in a league that only 2 teams can win, you play each team 4 times. Shall I carry on. And I don't actually think you have the funds, Goodwillie now Verhoek....

07 Aug 2011 18:39:51
Evening. Not on the wind-up here (Celtic fan) but what are your thoughts on Rangers trying to sign this McKay guy from Australia? I'm not talking about ability - I doubt many people know much about him and like Kayal and Izaguirre who were total unknowns he could turn out to be a good bit of business and he was Australian player of the year so he can't be that bad.

My main point is about the fact that he needs a work permit and Rangers are chasing him with less than a week until the Europa League registration deadline. We signed Wanyama and it took a number of weeks to get a permit (on appeal) but McKay might also need an appeal (which can be fast-tracked but isn't always quick enough). Obviously missing the deadline wouldn't be the end of the world if Rangers qualify as registration can be done later but surely this is just another example of Rangers' currently farcical signing (or attempts at the signing) of players? The guy seems a bit "blue-chip" with little interest elsewhere, so surely it'd make more sense to target and tie down other players that wouldn't need a permit to ensure they have signings for going into the playoff? Just find it to be yet another daft move by Rangers in the transfer window. Thoughts?

Got a point. I know he's been reccomended, so maybe they're not getting him in with just the Europa League deadline in mind. However, the Aussie league is about half as decent as ours, so despite him being their best player last year, shouldn't we be looking for a more experienced lad for midfield? Just a though. I'm not too keen on him, the youtube video only looks OK and considering its against fairly poor teams...

Nothing surprises me at Ibrox we are about to lose out on a very good player in Verhoek yet we persist in offering money for Davidson that could be used to boost the offer for Verhoek mindboggling stuff but if these are Ally`s decisions then he will have to live with them and so will we

I am sad as gers fan to agree with you, so far the new owner and manager have not looked too clever in the transfer market but i will judge them at the end of the transfer window lets face the team from last year should have been able to see off malmo and we could still get players in and if mckay does sign will be another addittion to the squad .but if we are depending on this signing then you are perfectly correct

07 Aug 2011 18:28:59
I really am astonished after the goodwillie
fiasco that we are about to lose out on verhoek. These are both players that ally wanted badly and yet again the money men have failed miserably. They made their best offer for goodwill only when he was having a medical. For weeks they have been chasing verhoek and a realistic bid in the first instance would have secured him. I am all for trying to get a bargain but this really is unbelievable. Any one of goody, verhoek or miller may have seen us in cl, now we are likely not to even make the Europa. I would not be surprised if ally walks after this and you could hardly blame him. He is a legend and must be given every chance to succeed, for the sake of a few hundred grand we have missed out on all 3. I have been willing to back whyte but it won't be long till the boo boys are out and I might be joining them.

07 Aug 2011 18:07:26
If we lose out on vorhoek to forest it is a joke why can't Craig tight just pay the 2 million euros needed we offered more for goodwillie when it was too late too much smoke and mirror stuff happening at the champagne for my liking we need world class players and to get them you have to pay what they're worth stop penny pinching whyte and give the fans what they want and deserve

Champions not champange

07 Aug 2011 17:54:33
I know wiki can be edited, but it states under verhoek that he is undergoing medical at notts forest and expected to sign before Tuesday. Another one gone perhaps.

07 Aug 2011 17:48:16
looks like we have lost verhoek to forest.

well done everyone swap a great player for an average aussie sounds good to me

i hope he does crap at forest.

this is beyond a joke now

He's not going to do crap is he? He looks quality.

Its a bad day when we cant afford a player and nottingham forrest can

07 Aug 2011 17:31:38
First post here. The most distressing aspect of Gers' new era of management is the complete lack of a commercial learning curve. We lose out on six or seven players by serial under-bidding, ending in the surrealist farce over Goodwillie. Now, barely a week later, we are at it again with the Dutch boy, a potential game-changing player in precisely the position required.

If he goes elsewhere, the fans this time have a right to be upset and angry. CW is supposedly deep in business acumen. And like every fair-minded Gers fan, I embraced the new footbal and financial start post-Walter, and give him and Ally my absolute support. But to continue on such a lethally foolish transfer strategy can mean only one of two things. Mr. Whyte has put the wrong people at the helm who cannot change gear and grasp how to amend this transer lunacy, or, as I fear, the man simply doesn't have the money he claims - at least certainly not to invest in Rangers. We have highly promising kids, have made or are on the cusp of making some good buys like Wallace, and McKay, but we need two, probably three, players on a higher level of class, like Verhoek, Juhasz and young Murphy, players who can make a genuine difference. This unedifying under-bidding will not only fail to get our current targets, but will deter players and agents from taking Rangers seriously as a career option. {Ed047's Note - welcome and thanks for your first post. Valid point. We need to be shrewd in the market, the gung-ho days of for every fiver they spend we'll spend a tenner are long gone but we do need to be realistic and you are correct. If we continue to bid excessively low and up the ante in dribs and drabs clubs and agents will avoid us like the plague. We must find a balance and find it soon

100% mate
i posted last week, that Whyte is too used to being a venture capitalist, where you pick things up on the cheap, then sell it on and make a few bob......he can't get away from that theory.

I'ts like you having a business worth 1m, and me offering you 300k, then 350, then 400, then 450, you have no f***** chance of getting it, but maybe a realistic bid of say 900k, then you're serious.

No one has a problem with Whyte trying to get the best deal, but we are now getting a name for ourselves for submitting ridiculous and unrealistic bids.

Total nonsense...

07 Aug 2011 16:48:36
mc coist is on the end of whytes leash, if ally wanted the players he could get him to pay, ally knew this was going to happen and just goes out and smooths it all over, it will be dragged out till the end of the transfer window and we will end up with a load of donkeys from the other side of the globe, every day they are putting out feelers testing the water with a snide bid, mark my words we will end up with nobody decent, and dont think for a minute we wil be able to carry on with who we have got, , , , , we wont, , , , ,

Garbage, ally will get players in, we will also retain the title.keep the faith lads, we are 3 games into the season.who won the league for the last 3 seasons?exactly.

Squad we have just now is good enuff to beat them they are powderpuff in attack/ midfield ok on the ball clueless off it/ defence looks suspect to ball over top of monsterbitch with Wilson looks like he will be Jelvic`s pet defender and Goalie is a bag of nerves only threat to us would be young forrester(spelling)

We havn, t started the season on fire either or have you forgotten, we all have faith but its so annoying when we lose out on player who would make us stronger because Whyte thinks he is playing some sort of game, why not pay the bloody money and get us the dutch winger??

07 Aug 2011 16:22:20
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07 Aug 2011 16:12:10
Rangers should look at midfielders just as Vacek, Matejovsky from Sparta Prague and Roman Eremenko (Alexei's brother) of Dynamo Kiev. Roman is so much better than Alexei. Had most assists in Europa League last season.

07 Aug 2011 15:44:47
I think signing McKay could be a shrewd move on Ally's part. . good box to box player coming highly recommended. Getting him on the cheap and also giving Ally the chance to play ortiz in his natural position on the right. . in my opinion a good aquisition if he signs

Honestly? Are yoou happy with this signing? A 28 year old from a poor league. If he was good would he not have been picked up sooner. Sites are being lowered all the time. If he was 20 -22 I could see the point.

Im not saying this guy is set the footballing world alight but i do feel he would be a usefull player to have within our squad and would make our overall shape more tactically sound {Ed047's Note - I doubt we'd be in a position to sign someone who would set the footballing world alight, some fans have to be a bit more realistic. If he does as you say I think we should be happy with that

Our league isn't much better

Correct our league isnt much better however that doesnt mean Rangers should be signing average players from worse leagues.

07 Aug 2011 15:24:54
if john fleck lost weight he would be the answer to our creative midfield problems.

Wot? if a young lad at 18 needs to loose w8 then the staff at murry park need the sack
he is not good enough he needs to go on loan n play every week sumwer for a year i fink that would do him the world of good.

gbear {Ed047's Note - he's 20 but I get your point

He's actually 19
{Ed047's Note - you're actually very pedantic. He's actually 20 in just over two weeks

He does need to lose weight but could be a gers legend if he does.

07 Aug 2011 15:22:35
What happened to the chat about Brett Holman, the australian guy that keeps Mackay out of the Oz team?

I would prefer to see him tbh, or both would be good

Players we have been linked to i would like to see...(NOT SAYING WE WILL)
Brett Holman
Marcelo Estigaribbia
Tim Matavz

07 Aug 2011 14:39:10
what the f*** are u people on ppl keep writing that some of our young players are world class lol go get some fresh air.
hutton played ok yesterday not amazing not out of this world jst ok
ness did well when he came on
fleck was ok
as was bendiksen
the only player out of this lot with a proper shot at the gers team is ness i fink in time not now but in time he could be the real deal. fleck needs to go out on loan n play every week and if im being honest hutton reminds me of bob malcolm decent player but never gona be a first team player in the long run
naismith is better in midfield running from deep
ortiz should be playing on the right
the right bk area is a problem as its a ball over the top thats beating us all the time there nomatter whose playn there
clubfoot is......that bad i dont even know wot 2 say

And on to all the fans who are giving ally a hard time
u ppl make me sick hes had 4 games n already ppl are calln for his head give him time to do his own fing with the team for me he gets this season even if we dnt win anyfin and finish second ill still support him i fink every manager should have time to build a team with their own ideas granted ill be gutted and annoyed but im a gers fan and fans support n thats wot ill be doin for ally and the team.

cmon whyte back the manager n the fans will do the same.

gbear {Ed047's Note - I think with emotions running high, as they have over the last few weeks, any positivity is likely to be exaggerated a bit. When we talk about Rangers and world class people like Davie Cooper, Jim Baxter etc spring to mind

Why doesnt ALLY play Ortiz at right back that was his natural position when he played in spain

Hutton made about 2 forward passes the whole game all square balls to the side or giving it bk to defense

Potential is the key here they will never be world class playing in the spl but they could be very good i think theres alot of talent in ness, hutton, wylde, hemmings and the lad cole all should add something to the 1st team wether they`ll hold down a birth in the team is questionable but they can only get better and better and they have a good chance of becoming key players of the future-in the past weve let very good youing players leave by not giving then a chance-but yet we dont want to wait to watch talent nurture and grow most of you scream the house down if we dont win every game come on here slag the management off and want this and that guy bought for x amount of pounds -we are now seeing the fruits of murray park give the lads a chance they wont be good every game but in time they could be gers legends of the future, hutton might not be great going forward or capable of making the killer ball but it comes and he`ll develope that part of his game- look at fabregas when he added goals to his game barca started knocking down wengers door

07 Aug 2011 14:26:06
How dire did the sheep s look? They created nothn against a poor celtic team Bet it would b a different story if we were playn them All the best wishes for that izugurre, don't like to see players picking up bad injuries like that no matter wot team he plays for Rab

Agreed - its not good to see inuries like that - regardless or the team

According to sky sports news twitter, lennons confirmed its a broken leg not ankle {Ed047's Note - the ankle is still part of the leg and while most of us (me included) think of a broken leg as anywhere above the ankle, some people will just call an ankle break a leg break. We'll know more in due course. Either way it's not good

Met him in my local park couple of days ago and was really nice signed autographs for wee cuzins all the best to him

07 Aug 2011 14:16:10
I wonder what all the other players make of the joke that is our approach to transfers? Your Jelas, mcGregors, Davises and Naismiths? If Rangers don't get their finger out their bum and actually start offering reasonable sums for reasonable players I can see these sorts of players wanting away rather than staying in an unhappy team that can't compete at the level it should because of the strange antics of the owner. They must be asking themselves wtf is going on, like most reasonable people.

The sad part is we actually have the nucleus of a very strong side there, with a raft of very promising youth players to add it would only take a few signings of real quality to get a very decent side and certainly one easily capable of 4IAR.

This is all very frustrating. If the dutch winger moves to forest over Rangers it's a new low. I really don't know what the big idea is??

Randolph True Blue {Ed047's Note - I've no doubt in my mind when they were negotiating they would have been advised of the plans for the future and it won't go down well if we don't get players in

07 Aug 2011 13:56:00
Don't think we should get too disheartened. Watching the Aberdden -v- Celtic game at present and they are far from good. Don't think we have that much to worry about.

What we do need though is the fans, or so called fans, to stop slagging McCoist and Whyte and get behind them.

I want us to sign decent players and get on with winning the chamionship, it's a clean entry into the C/L next season, so get the players we need NOW WHYTE or it's curtains. We win this and we wil be miles ahead for the next few years in Scotland imo

07 Aug 2011 13:43:39
Watching Kenny Miller play for Cardiff, I'm glad McCoist didn't bring him back. He's dire.

Thats exactly what i was thinking. conway doesn't look to great either

Miller for not doing so good at cardiff he's just scored? mark.

Were you slagging miller last year? dina bloody think so. Small memory

07 Aug 2011 13:28:01
why spend 500k on davidson give bendikson a run what do you think

They are different players so i dont no how you can compare them plus bendiksen has struggled with injuries over the past 3 years

One can kick a ball and Davidson cant SIMPLES

07 Aug 2011 13:13:58
The only good thing to come out of yesterday was the performance of the young boys. Even fleck looks a player if he is played in the centre

07 Aug 2011 13:02:51
izzaguirre suffers broken ankle v aberdeen. dont think they'll be getting £10mil for him this transfer window {Ed047's Note - was in two minds to post or delete but I'll post with this comment. Are we sinking that low that we gloat at an individuals misfortune? I will leave this comment for others to see for a bit. I hope for his sake it's not broken, but it seems it is. are we so poor we rely on our challengers to lose players to make it easier for us to succeed? First abusive comment regarding this injury and I'll delete the whole thread (incidentally, Larsson suffered one of the worst injuries I've ever seen and he was over 30 at the time (I think) and was a better, stronger player when he came back

Don't want to see any player injured no matter who they play for, looked like a sore one for the lad

Andy
{Ed047's Note - I didn't see it but I'm sure I will. Hopefully it won't be too bad

Grow up mate, football doesnt need folk like you, after breaking my leg over a year ago and its still knackered comments like yours are sickening, not something to make up jokes about, shamefull comment, rant over ed. {Ed047's Note - never broken a bone in my body but damaged my ligaments in my ankle twice. As a result I stopped playing at the age of 35 and limited to kick about with my 10 year old son

Never want to see anyone getting broken legs etc even if they play with them

Brilliant talent and seemed happy at Celtic, I honestly believed he could have got much much better too as he had a lot more potential. {Ed047's Note - he's broken his ankle mate. He'll be back this season hopefully. biggest concern is a loss of confidence after these injuries. Seen a few players with potential / quality disappear after bad injuries.

WELL SAID ED. RANGERS THROUGH AND THROUGH BUT SEEING SOMEBODY GETTING SERIOUSLY INJURED AINT GOOD NO MATTER WHO THEY PLAY FOR...

Doesnt matter what team the guy plays for not nice to see someone get hurt ....there is rivalry and just being nasty {Ed047's Note - yes there is a big difference between the two

Larsson was 28 when he broke his leg Ed.


Bobby {Ed047's Note - thanks mate. Thought he was a bit older

Ed, broke my leg in 2 places, like i said its still knackered, like yourself thats me finished with football, the five-a-side team have lost a talent, the worst bit when you have a full plaster cast on and your peg starts itching, thats when my old girls knitting needles came in handy. {Ed047's Note - lol, been there as a kid, lying in hospital and my maw producing a knitting needle from her bag!

I'm the op and i was not gloating about the injury just posting the info and i honestly thought celtic would sell him for big money this season. never put any sarcastic comment so i dont no why you think i was gloating but apologies if it comes accross that way (also agree with eds comments) {Ed047's Note - strange that a guy breaks his ankle and the first thing you think about is 'they won't get £10m now' My thoughts were for the player. Not for Celtic, not for Rangers and not for money. Please think twice before posting about such issues in future.Apology accepted mate

Thank god for that ed, thought i was the only daftie that used knitting needles to cure the itch lol {Ed047's Note - that's what knitting needles are for! there's nothing else can do the job.

Doesnt seem like the apology is accepted judging by you comments. like i said i wasnt gloating so i'm only apologising for how it looks/reads to others not for the post. i was big enough to apoligise for that and didnt think your other comments were needed. you dont need to post this ed but hope you understand there was no ill intent behind the op. cheers {Ed047's Note - Sorry for not going down on my knees but I stand by what I said. Why would you mention they won't be getting £10m now? At the time I never even thought about his transfer value. I have accepted your apology. If I say it's accepted then it's accepted, I don't say things for the sake of it. Move on

I dont like injuries either, but i remember how much they laughed their arse off when jelevic got injured last year {Ed047's Note - and you think it's ok to go to that level? Two wrongs don't make a right.

07 Aug 2011 12:31:36
According to bbc sport Bouhgerra only went for 1.7m not 3m but 3m dollars

07 Aug 2011 11:50:59
Just pay the 2 million for Verhoek

2 Millions a bargain

Agreed but we wont and he ll go to forest or fulham

07 Aug 2011 10:52:57
Where are all the celtic fans getting this crap that jela is away to man u? Think they are living in hope coz they know he will score 20+ goals this season.

Oh and to the guy who sent banter on here saying it was boys against men playing chelsea Haha christ mate its a team that each season are in the last 8 of champ league Get a grip and calm down dear Think we did ok against a team that spent close wto 100 million last while.

Wrt.

07 Aug 2011 10:27:53
My source was right.....Den Hag reject new Rangers bid for Verhoek(spelling). This is beyond a joke I ain't going to pretend I have faith in Craig Whyte anymore, I have given up now. I have never conceded the league to the mhanky mhob but the way things are going....we will be lucky to challenge them this season. Our bench is dire and have no game-changing players. It is madness what has happened at Ibrox Ally McCoist will hit panic stations now and bring in more loan players.

I feel for McCoist, I really do, he is getting the blame for the dire state Rangers are in and he can't do anything about it.

I apologise for the negative Ed and my other fellow Bears, but it is looking pretty gloom at Ibrox.

TonytheGer

TonytheGer?

Is Ger short for Gerbil?

Watch the door doesn't batter yer arse on the way out.

It begs the question though; even if Super Ally's hands were or currently are tied, why does he not use the resources he has to the best of his ability? Ness, Wydle, Hutton and Bendisken are every bit as good as Edu for example...Edu is strong and has a bit of pace at times but the only thing he has over these lads is experience. Bendiksen has skill, flare and creativity something we're crying out for...Hutton is strong, can tackle and is ready to play and get stuck in...Ness is just a brilliant young prospect... Hell, most of those young boys are good enough for 20 mins or even 45 mins here and there.

Yet Ally goes and bids for Murray Davidson? Stupid and pointless expendature but we won't bid an extra 500K on a player we want, need and whom wants to come to us. WTF.

He won't play subs when they are needed, targets players worse than what we have and just generally ain't using the resources he has to the best of his currently questioned ability. No point having fancy shoes if ye hae no feet.

I totaly agree with you tony, were a laughing stock now and ive just about given up now. it dos, nt look good

07 Aug 2011 10:17:07
anybody else heard this crap G SPEIRS is supposedly written that sheriffs officers are going to ibrox tomorrow and that the s**t is going to hit the fan at rangers ....what is it with this guy he makes a living out of writing s**t about rangers its about time he was banned from stepping anywhere near ibrox oh and the other s**te about davis and jelavic leaving and fall outs with players n manager more anti rangers propaganda in the media ...ban the lot of them i say ....bigt

I posted this yesterday after reading it in twitter. Spiers repilied to this guy from ireland saying he had heard the rumours but could not comment. I suppose tomorrow will tell all.

07 Aug 2011 09:51:50
To the guys who called me a bull shi**er when I posted the link to the Verhoek offer being rejected, check STV webpage New offer rejected, not last weeks offer

GCUK

07 Aug 2011 09:23:18
Another bid for the boy Verhoek booted out. This is because Rangers once again cannot bid the £2mil asking price, what the f**k is this all about ? HERE WE F**KING GO AGAIN It is a total embarrassment. Even saying that McCoist wants to try and use some of the money from the sale of Bougherra............. absolutely pathetic, this is so shameful and I believe that A. Johnson was 100% correct when tried to warn everyone about this charlatan. We will be going for loans, and players which are not fit to wear the Rangers shirt, from lower league clubs. At best we will get loanees, where are the 6 bids Whyte ? and what is the point of going round amd round the f**king garden when you KNOW that a club will not accept bids UNDER the valuation ? This is absolutely desperate................... pathetic. Source ; Sunday papers

07 Aug 2011 08:59:21
Surely if craig whyte is plannin 2 put a sub standard team on the park then season ticket prices shd drop, plus matchday prices 28 pound is a joke I wouldnt pay 20 pound to watch the crap we have, what u think ed?

I think you're spot on.....Miko

Go away Miko

07 Aug 2011 07:12:23
Hope Ally goes his own way in management. I had a cold shiver down my spine when I heard him talking about "following Sinatra" to be honest. We can look back with rose tints but I think a lot of times we were successful in spite of Walter. This issue that's been brewing at cb for a long time for example. The disinterested Bougherra beside old Davie was always gonna drop Ally in the s**t this year for a kick off. Why would Wilson do anything other than leave for Liverpool to double or triple his wage (whatever it was) sitting on the bench at anfield instead of sitting on the bench at Ibrox watching a 40 year old? That's no what I would describe of "management" of the resources of a football club in any sense.

Youth players were only ever given a chance as a final resort- no a fair crack like they get at clubs of a stature of a man utd or a barca. If they can bring players on how come we can't? Walter ran the team into the ground the first time with Barry Ferguson no getting a chance, but being one of the star men as soon as person arrives and puts together that awesome side- so it's no surprise. Walter clearly wasn't much of a judge of a youth player. A player like Fleck's stagnation could obviously be down to the player himself, or the mismanagement of his development by a clueless manager. Hopefully Ally is better in this department. You clearly have to believe in and trust youths and have and pass on the attitutde: you're no just a youth player playing as a last resort as there ain't no one else here (Walter), you're a Rangers FC player. Has to be the strategy if Whyte won't back him in the transfer market and a squad that has become depleted over recent years remains so thin. As top "targets" get missed you're inevitably then looking at choices further down the list. Maybe it's better to just go with your own once you slip so far. False economy to just buy mince for the sake of buying- e.g. Murray Davidson coming in and nae doubt hindering the development of Hutton or Ness.

Hopefully "following Sinatra" does no mean playing ultra-cautious against distinctly average teams, watching them play because you have zero faith in your own abilities. E.g. way we went out of Europa league last year and round before when we were lucky to get through against Sporting. Sporting Lisbon are not Barcelona. They only look like it if you stand and watch them. Carrying on playing Mcl in beside Edu would characterise this for me. The irony of course is, you go "cautious" and average teams rip you to bits if you let them play just like jambos in opener. You can clearly forgive an error or two early but I hope he learns quick. The success Walter enjoyed often playing duff football might no help.

If it were me, if I were to fail, I'd want to do it making my own mistakes, no repeating somebody else's. Be your own man Ally. Plenty would be very happy if you don't just blindly copy ALL OF what went before.

Randolph True Blue

Could not have put it better myself, what's the use of having a fantastic set up like Murray park and not playing the fruits of there labours Ness Hutton Kerkar Perry FLECK and the boy Bendiksen who i thought really good as well as Little who did was just as good as Whittaker well that wouldnae be hard. IN ALLY WE TRUST

07 Aug 2011 02:28:42
Not a rumour, just trying to put 2 and 2 together here.
1) McCoist said he was talking to Villas-Boas before the game and was going to go and have another chat with him after the game, and also said would be silly not to use his contacts.
2) We are still after a striker after missing out on Goodwillie.
3) Villas-Boas said in the post match interview that Sturridge will be a valuble member of the team this year, so he wont be joining us.
4) Chelsea have just signed a young keeper for £7 million and sent him straight on loan to Atletico Madrid.
5) Chelsea are just about to sign Lukaku from Anderlecht.

Maybe, just Maybe Villas-Boas would like him to get a taste of regular British style football for experience and send him on loan to us?

We are now going cap in hand and asking any spare players? How humiliating it is for me I am a season ticket holder and have to listen to that other mob crowing about how well things are for them

You're staying up too late pal, you should get to your bed earlier because you're obviously suffering from sleep depravation.......Miko

07 Aug 2011 00:38:35
i think rangers need juhasz and a striker and a center midfielder but i also think wee neeed a left mid, i think someone like lee martin would do it

agreee?

Lee martin is???????? {Ed047's Note - Lee Martin is the guy we had on loan with Phil Bardsley around 2005/06 when he was at Man Utd. Now at Ipswich but I don't think he's the answer

07 Aug 2011 00:22:08
After wed match ally said we wood have 2 players in next 48 hours more lies?

06 Aug 2011 23:39:37
is it common knowledge that lampard is a rangers fan?, he got a round of applause from rangers and chelsea fans when he got subbed today and he clapped the whole stadium, i knew he was a rangers fan coz it was on soccer am about 6 yrs ago when he was a guest and they did a whole section on spl football and he told tim lovejoy he was a rangers fan, and that he goes up to watch them wen he can with some chelsea boys and west ham youth players he grew up with class player, maybe he can play his last yr for us lol

I'd never heard Lampard was a Bear but I always clap for players going on and off the field regardless of what team they're on unless they are Celtic players lol. He was probably just showing good sportmanship.

Lampard is a gers fan he comes up to games regularly he said last time he played up here that gers fans where some of the best hes played in front of

I have said on previous post that Lampard is a big Rangers Fan. He was at the Europa Cup Final, and has been to watch us against the Mancky mob. Was surprised to see John Terry clap the Copland road end at the start of the second half, A post recently stated he was a follower of the great unwashed.Joe cole also follows the Bears. I spoke to him in Liverpool recently.

06 Aug 2011 23:14:08
if we can have this team for september then i think we have a good squad

mcgregor

whittaker
juhasz
juan
papac

naismith
bedoya/bartley
davis
wallace/murphy

lafferty
jelavic

WHIT?

06 Aug 2011 23:01:21
is cw thinking of upgrading the east enclosure ? because the food kiosks are a joke , takes about 30mins to get to the front