Rangers Banter Archive August 07 2017

 

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07 Aug 2017 22:25:25
You can just tell that Dorrans is a Bear and loved watching him celebrate! After watching him I think it would be a brilliant idea to eventually make him Captain but the sooner the better.
Also think that Windass really wants to show the Support he is a Player! But as Pedro says he needs to take care of the defensive side of his game.



07 Aug 2017 19:49:03
Can someone please tell me WHY for some Transfers the Fee etc is known but for others its a disclosed Fee?
Thats Wags, AND Garner gone for disclosed Fee's. There's plenty of opinions on how much these guys went for but we know NOTHING!
I just wonder which Club wanted the deal to be private?
I do hope that overall we have at least broke even combining the latest Transfers. To me that's 4 Transfers and 2 Loans out Yeah?



07 Aug 2017 21:04:13
does it really matter how much they went for? main thing is there gone after all that's what most fans wanted anyway.



07 Aug 2017 22:24:21
Can be either rangers don't want other clubs knowing what money they have so we can't be pushed for more obey for player i. e. Walker or we have got rubbish money for them and don't want too show that either.

But maybe it's Ipswich that has said they don't want it known. But will we not find out when the accounts are published?



07 Aug 2017 18:58:33
Poll time Ed.
Should Ailnwick get picked for Lge Cup games (all) instead of Fods?



{Ed033's Note -


Ailnwick, Fods Poll

07 Aug 2017 18:34:50
See waghorns off as well a tad worried from what I seen yesterday from our current strikers don't seem better than what we had, Herrera does the same as garner use to do barge into players but least garner found the net on occasion hope there another proven goal scorer in this window and I don't mean walker even tho I take him as well great result yesterday and great save at the end from wes saved us dropping 2 points.



07 Aug 2017 18:55:04
Give the lad a break . We've only played 1 league game . He was unlucky with a header yesterday. Give him some time to adapt to playing in Scotland . I am more concerned about big Wes, IMO has always been a bombscare. Great shot stopper but cross balls he's all over the place .



07 Aug 2017 19:32:44
He's played in 3 friendlies and came on in the euro game and has done nothing a hope am wrong but he's rank rotten from what I've saw! garner would have been more suited to this formation we are playing just now



07 Aug 2017 20:07:18
So now you are judging him by a few friendly matches. Lol . Get a grip sir! I watched the sheff wed game and he played well. Give the guy a chance



07 Aug 2017 21:02:55
other players need to pass the ball to him for him to shoot, look at windass yes he was good, but he could have cut the ball back to him.



07 Aug 2017 21:05:11
Moult would bang them in for us, have to agree that herrera and morelos have done nothing to suggest that they will be top players for us.



07 Aug 2017 22:32:23
If a Rngers player performed like Moult did yesterday you would have been whining about his performance Coldo.



07 Aug 2017 21:45:00
At least Garner won headers. I saw Herrera win one header yesterday and that was a defensive one. Here's hoping he comes good but I saw absolutely nothing to suggest he'll score goals.



07 Aug 2017 22:24:53
how long was coisty hated before he won us over. you lot are amazing, what's wrong with getting behind your team.



08 Aug 2017 00:55:41
Rangeken, agree moult did not have a good game, however he is a proven goal scorer in our league. Herrera and morelos have not had a sniff at goal in any game they have played. Obv I hope they come good. Moult for me tho.



08 Aug 2017 12:04:27
Judging a player from 1 competitive outing is ludicrous. Imagine teams gave up on diego forlan when he couldn't score for man Utd in what was it? 30 games or something? He then went on to win the world cup golden boot and best player awards as well as regularly scoring over 15/ 20/ 25 goals a season for Villarreal and athletico Madrid.



07 Aug 2017 15:59:42
Now wags away i can see forest coming in for tav?



07 Aug 2017 17:50:54
If forest come in for tavs I say let him go, I want a defender who can defend



07 Aug 2017 18:47:23
The problems came from both flanks, right back more so, we have to stop reams exploiting this, I know Wallace is not long back but a good right back would be good to have though I doubt this will happen unless somebody comes in fr tav.



07 Aug 2017 18:49:20
Yeah could see Warbs doing something like putting in a good bid for Tavs especially after getting McKay so cheap!
But do we think Ped will have Players not only in mind for certain positions BUT will have already came to an agreement with Club and Player in the event of needing to bring in quickly as like I said I could see Warbs putting in a bid near tge end of the Window!



07 Aug 2017 21:02:55
I think they will keep tav for the now, I would bring walker in the now. I think it was a great bit of business getting 1 million for waghorn, hat off to the guy tried his hardest but simply didn't cut it last season. I think the forwards we have at the moment will do a job for us



07 Aug 2017 20:48:55
Now Waghorn has also left, I think we need to bring in players in the position of any player who could leave before we actually let them go , last thing we need is leaving ourselves a bit short in certain areas if players r allowed to leave and no suitable replacement is found, who would people like to be bought in as a full back say tav does go?



07 Aug 2017 21:36:37
Ped MAY have Abella lined up but its down to getting a work permit and I don't know if that would be straight forward. I do think Hodson is an adequate replacement but he does not offer an attacking threat.
How much do we think Warbs would offer for Tavs that would turn our eye? For me a bid of around 1.5m would prob do it and I think that's about how much Abella would cost (I think)



07 Aug 2017 15:15:33
What is going on in our club we can't even get our players shirts spelling correct, DOORANS, it just makes us look stupid along with last years kit!



07 Aug 2017 15:22:06
Really?
Is this your biggest concern for the upcoming season m spelling and last years kit getting a second run?



07 Aug 2017 16:06:02
Have to admit tho, it pathetic! surley they can get some brain surgeon to work out how to spell the guys name!



07 Aug 2017 17:01:26
It's just a silly wee mistake nothing more nothing less.



07 Aug 2017 18:42:43
Just a mistake. Doesn't look good, considering he is a marquee signing lol but worse things have happened



07 Aug 2017 19:37:10
Ally, "surley" you shouldn't be pointing out spelling errors 😂.



07 Aug 2017 14:59:06
If you had a choice:

Moult for £500k

or Walker for £750k-1m?



07 Aug 2017 15:47:04
Both lol. Could we afford it though.



07 Aug 2017 15:48:20
Walker all day long



07 Aug 2017 17:38:12
we need both

even if only in terms of numbers we need another winger and a striker

in wide areas makay and ohalloran have left and although it's early doors the lad dalcio looks pretty average so we need another winger and for me walker must now come in

up front garner and waggy have left and dodoo is out of favour so we need another striker - moult scored almost 1 in
2 for a poor m'well side so with out service he should flourish



07 Aug 2017 17:43:36
Don't need moult in my opinion. I believe between miller, Herrera, Morelos and dodoo we have plenty of goals.

Not sure what the situation is with dodoo but from what I've seen he's a goal Predator



07 Aug 2017 17:52:58
Neither. There's better out there. I'll never understand this Walker hysteria.



07 Aug 2017 18:42:10
Walker



07 Aug 2017 18:45:24
Walker aye but moult is rank



07 Aug 2017 18:50:36
Both, already bidding 600k for walker, so we must have that plus the million for waghorn, we can tap into that for the rest.



07 Aug 2017 18:52:07
Decent spl striker not rangers class for me



07 Aug 2017 18:55:16
Moult could be good for us if he cleaned up his act. I like the rough and tumble target men who can actually play a bit and Moult certainly fits the bill. Walker? Yes, all day long. I think he will do very well for us.



07 Aug 2017 14:41:10
Result better than the performance yesterday- Will take 3 points.

5 Lessons learned

We were very lucky, need to tighten up at back

Wes in danger of being nicknamed Dracula - terrified of crosses

Herrera - seen milk turn quicker- need to give him service if he has any chance of scoring

Our fitness was better- lasted 90 mins

We would have drawn/ lost that game last season

With the cash from Waggy, need to get a striker on board ASAP. Hibs game will be a cracker- looking forward to a packed Ibrox!



07 Aug 2017 14:31:43
All the best waggy. You came here and gave it your best but mostly it wasn't enough. Hope things work out for you.

Can't help thinking however the way we line up now would suit garners style of play but onwards n upwards. Get a good moral boosting win on Wednesday and hammer hibs on Saturday. Three tough opening league games. If we get full points I'll be delighted with that.



07 Aug 2017 14:08:05
With Garner, Jeirnan, and now Waghorn overnight we hear of interest bish bosh, next day deal done player gone and signed
6 weeks ago we are told of Final, last ever, not to be repeated bid for Jamie Walker going in then zilch, nada, hee haw nuthin.
Someone please tell me has there ever been a bid for Walker let alone a last bid, and why is it taking so long.



07 Aug 2017 14:55:27
Would make sense that we had to get rid of these players to free up the funds for a proper bid for walker



07 Aug 2017 22:30:34
maybe just maybe someone at rangers doesn't want walker at 1m plus



07 Aug 2017 13:56:35
For me, Morelos must get a start against dunfermline, he must be itching to show what he has to offer and for some reason ped won't give him a lot of minutes, i have the feeling ped will stick with herrera though just to see if he can finally get a goal and lift his confidence a bit, with windass aswell, i think i would keep him as a second half player, bring him on at half time because for me he was exhausted after one half yesterday



07 Aug 2017 14:10:06
Morelos almost got himself in trouble with the ref on his debut against the Luxembourg mob, putting his head into the defenders face. He was then subbed off for the second half of the match. I imagine he has been disciplined behind closed doors for his actions and warned that sort of behaviour is not what the manager needs.

Thats probably why Herrera had the nod over him for the opener, just reading between the lines I could be wrong.



07 Aug 2017 14:52:54
I would play the same starting 11 against Dunfermline that started yesterday to get them to gel quicker yesterday's game was the only the 3rd time that team had played together playbyour best team and get a strong result in the cup



07 Aug 2017 18:45:56
Would make 2 definite changes in Ailnwick and Morelos giving Miller a rest but on bench.
Would like to see Rossiter or Barjonas involved. I understand the whole playing our strongest team but some of our so called back up players should be good enough to take on Dunfermline!
My Team against Dunfermline 4-4-2

Ailnwick
Hodson
Cardoso
Alves
Wallace
Candieas
Dorrans
Barjonas
Windass
Herrera
Morelos

If Ped does go with the same 11 that played against Well then I would still like to see Barjonas Morelos and poss Hardie or Beerman introduced ONLY if we have a solid scoreline in the bag



07 Aug 2017 18:58:26
Barjonas won't play. Don't see why the rest won't happen though.



07 Aug 2017 19:41:24
Don't see why we should rest players this early in the season I say go strongest 11 get the 3 points in the bag by half time then with 20 30 mins to go give Pena morelos and rossiter a run out build their fitness plus this team is geling gives the team more minutes together anything else is a bonus I'm not under estimating Dunfermline either they have a solid championship side and will prove a bit tricky just hope we score early on and kick on from their also yesterday first half up to their goal which was sloppy on our part we where attacking down both flanks with purpose and looked dangerous from all over the park best first half in a league game I can remember and it's early doors only gets better from here.



07 Aug 2017 13:56:20
Been having a chat with some of the Notts F fans, they won first game 1 0 but it appears they could have lost 3 or 4 goals, there appears to be questions about the defence, and how the midfielders give the ball away so cheaply. There is also concern about the system that leaves the lone striker completely isolated from the midfield, any of this sound familiar bears?
I hope forest fans don't get the "we will learn from this treatment".



07 Aug 2017 14:12:31
I watched the highlights on youtube to see Mckays goal and that was exactly what happened going from them. The only highlights for Notts was Mckays goal followed by Millwall missing chance after chance after chance.



07 Aug 2017 13:22:24
Best of luck Waggy. One of the nicest blokes at Rangers. I hope your new start brings with it a boost in confidence that helps you succeed at your new club.



07 Aug 2017 15:21:34
Nice post Cambiger
Waggy will always be welcome at Ibrox!



07 Aug 2017 18:37:43
Best of luck, Couldn't fault the effort from waggy, trying too hard at times!



07 Aug 2017 12:56:54
I agree with posts about needing a decent keeper, but for all we know we may already have one? Problem is that second and third choice keepers don't get the opportunities they need to show how good they might be. Surely before spending anything, Alnwick and Kelly should be given serious game time, only then will we know.



07 Aug 2017 13:04:47
GK surely isn't our priority position to fill at the minute



07 Aug 2017 13:18:02
Always said fod was liability specially back passes etc alwick should be giving a chance more often but we don't see how they are in training etc

if foderingham does go i like to see odd goalie brought in rossbach norwegian keeper or alwick giving more games so we can he how he performs weekly basis instead of once every 2 month



07 Aug 2017 18:36:43
Ailnwick must surely be given a chance using the League Cup.
Would like to see Morelos start and maybe give one of the young lads a start.
Would love to see Pena even for 1/ 2 hr but don't think it will happen.



07 Aug 2017 12:52:10
Rangers website sayin waghorn has gone . let's get walker signed up asap



07 Aug 2017 13:19:04
He has ipswich rangers confirmed it and it on sky



07 Aug 2017 11:30:44
Not a rumour just a suggestion. With around a million coming I'm for Waghorn why not go for Louis moult and Chris Cadden from Motherwell the 2 would cost around a million. Cadden is great up and down the wings and he could also provide cover for Right back and moult is s proven scorer in Scotland.



07 Aug 2017 11:48:32
Personally, I think we should aim for a higher standard than these guys. I'd take quality of quantity any day.



07 Aug 2017 12:01:34
I think moult would be a good signing. If we got him and walker we would be strong going forward. I thought candias and windass had good games yesterday aswel.



07 Aug 2017 12:06:49
Agree with your sentiment ally however, I don't feel we are quite at that point yet. The two players gs mentioned would imo be good additions to our squad, both being proven at this level, which is where we are operating, this season anyway. Moult is a very good out ball and focal point and Cadden can't half put a good ball in the box.
On a side note, I have watched our pre season games and thought yesterday wasn't a patch on them. Not sure if it was nerves or what but you can't tell me that (no disrespect meant) Motherwell are a better team than those three teams?
A couple of more wins and I think you may just see us relaxing a bit and starting to take these kind of games in our stride as I believe the ability is there.



07 Aug 2017 18:28:10
I would definitely take cadden. Good young prospect at only 20, already has a lot of spfl experience and has the potential to be sold on for a profit.



07 Aug 2017 18:43:01
mult would be in the game every game and he scores for motherwell 20 plus goals in the last two seasons in the league we want to win for me moult and walker should be added before the end of the week if not we will have been stupid to not only strengthen ourselves but to weaken our opposition aswell



07 Aug 2017 10:03:25
With the news that Waghorn could be on his way, it looks as though we will make a collective transfer profit from McKay, Waghorn, Garner, Crooks, and Kiernan.



07 Aug 2017 10:29:27
Gr8 business if we can get guts of a million for him. Seems a bit much for a non prolific striker in last year of contract tho. A bit like hearts valuation of walker



07 Aug 2017 18:22:31
walker scored 15 last year and set up even more and that's a whole lot better than waggy did. but i'd take what we can get and pay hearts the money i know they need money but we need a winger as candias didn't look up to much yesterday.

i know he was dirty against us but moult would be a good shout for us.
if we get moult and walker i'd fancy usd finishing within 9 points of them but without them i'm not sure.

id recall beerman aswell as waldo for me isn't the player he was and he either needs to up his game of get dropped for a bit



07 Aug 2017 09:56:27
It's just my opinion and I know I'll get shot down for it but I'm still suspect about big Wes. Yes he made a great save towards the end and has made some good saves throughout his time at the club but modern day goalkeeping is a lot more than just shot stopping. I think his commanding of his area especially the 6 yard box is poor - example see yesterdays goal and his positional sense at times isn't poor - see both semi final goals against Celtic. Don't know anything about Alnwick as a keeper but I think a new keeper should be considered, at the right price obviously.



07 Aug 2017 11:20:45
The cross from Motherwell is one of the best you'll find this season. Not many Goalkeeper would have came from that cross it would be way to risky. If its anyones fault its hodson's he let heneghen get in-between him and cardoso.

On a side note i thought Wes came out for more crosses and looked more comfortable than he did all last season.



07 Aug 2017 11:47:18
I agree with James, although Wes played well last season, his command of his box is poor he won't leave his line for anything, maybe some coaching in this area would help him, it would make him a better keeper, great save at the end though



07 Aug 2017 18:23:52
he looks suspect and when u have the fear every time the ball comes in the box u know u need a better keeper



07 Aug 2017 18:30:14
@callamR. Nonsense mate, any decent keeper would have came out for that cross, if wes comes out and punches they don't score, great shot stopper but really needs to command his area a lot more.



07 Aug 2017 06:52:43
Encouraging display, Need a goal threat, I'd give Hardie 90 mins V Dunfermline.



07 Aug 2017 09:26:30
Jo Dodoo is the best natural finisher at the club, play him and we will see goals.



07 Aug 2017 09:43:05
Dodoo murder man he's no the answer but definitely need walker and a striker probably from the scottish league's as there to pricy down south.
One million for waggys a good bit of buisness for us



07 Aug 2017 11:24:12
Millers First touch and decisions at times are brutal but we need his workrate and he rarely does he miss those chances like the one he had yesterday.



07 Aug 2017 18:20:23
Dodoo is a shocking player surely the next one to leave



07 Aug 2017 00:24:47
Strange how all players we have let go have had smashing debuts and also scored Martyn Waghorn can be another player going for 1m Are we replacing those players with better? Is Herrera better than Joe Garner as with Candeias better than McKay?



07 Aug 2017 01:55:21
Know who had a smashing debut? Dorrans. Dorrans had a smashing debut.



07 Aug 2017 03:52:16
best of luck waggy in your new adventure simply not good enough for spfl and rangers



07 Aug 2017 09:59:12
DC isn't scared to put a foot in, track back or take on his man 100% of the time so in my eyes yes DC's better than McKay. Mckay was living off that goal against Celtic the boy was a passenger 75% of the time



07 Aug 2017 18:25:08
i agree mckay was not the player he should have been but the boy had bags of talent and we could have got a lot more for him



07 Aug 2017 18:27:11
Plus DC can cross a ball with both feet. McKay's final ball was woeful.



07 Aug 2017 18:31:21
windass for me was in with a shout for motm



06 Aug 2017 23:50:30
So we've now played and won our first league game, away from home. I was at the match, incidentally. Tonight I've been on various Gers sites and the general opinion seems to be that we were great, we did quite well, we were poor or we were rotten (honestly) .

And according to all the experts, we'll be fine once we get a new goalkeeper/ right back/ left back/ attacking midfielder, striker, left winger/ Naismith, Walker and maybe Stevie May or Moult. If there was a trophy for the most fickle, hyper-critical, whimsical fans we'd be world champions. Today we were not bad at all and we're getting better.



07 Aug 2017 08:49:42
I watched game again this morning and we did ok. Defensively we were poor and will be punished by a better side. Windass is as good as McKay and at least goes forward we just need to score goals. For all his effort I do think miller is a weak link as does not have the passing ability of some and a poor control. Morales needs game time starting against pars to get goal and confidence



07 Aug 2017 18:16:12
Majority of the game we played well, however how motherwell never scored in the last 10mins of the game is beyond me, they should have scored. We were very edgy and all over the place in the last 10min, that has to improve as the better spl sides would have scored no bother against us in that situation. Big wes, great shot stopper but needs to command his area. Should have came for that ball and if he does, they don't score. Yip we should have been at least 4 up if we took our chances. but as I said the defending has to improve, no doubt. Great win tho.



07 Aug 2017 18:28:06
id play miller every game before herrera as at least miller gets involved and morelos will score goals for us he just needs game time.
pena is our most expensive and i don't know whey he hasn't been playing but whatever the reason, we should be getting an explanation



06 Aug 2017 23:53:45
Three pre-season friendlies and one SPL match and three wins out of four. Main concern must be goalscoring, just like last season. Maybe Garner could/ should have stayed but let's give the new strikers a chance. We could/ should have scored five or six against Motherwell. I'd like to see Rossiter fit and playing and yet again, what about Hardie if the goals aren't flying in? As long as we gub Lennon next week!



07 Aug 2017 18:26:08
Yep, but Motherwell could have scored the same against us.



07 Aug 2017 18:27:33
this game against hibs is one of upmost importance and if we can get past that game and the hearts game our team will start playing more freely and with more confidence and better finishing i honestly believe and have said it since the fixtures came out that if we win the first three then its game on and we will challange for the title but we need to go on a run of good wins to put fear into the rest of the league



06 Aug 2017 23:51:40
This is the best football I've seen from a Rangers team for a long time. On today's evidence if Pena and Morelos turn out to be good then with a few additions we will be back somewhere close to where we want to be. It will still take a transfer window or 2 with the same spending but here's hoping that we can continue to improve. It would be nice to get to a transfer window and say 'We need to spend the £ on two good quality transfers'. Oh remember that?!?



07 Aug 2017 18:25:28
Exactly we still have Pena and moralos to come good kranjcar to come in to the side also i think rossiter will come good and of course couple more signings so add that to the team of yesterday we are looking good



07 Aug 2017 18:32:43
those where the days!



 
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