Rangers Banter Archive February 07 2016

07 Feb 2016 19:56:11
Hearing stories from various sources tonight that when we play kilmarnock In our scottish cup replay a week on tuesday we will be going against our former manager ally mccoist as he is poised to be appointed the new kilmarnock manager before the end of the week, I only hope we afford super ally the same reception as lee mcculloch got at ibrox yesterday, none of us will never really know what coisty had to endure during his tenure as rangers manager, especially the last 2 years of it, we may only find out if ally writes a book of what went on behind the scenes, I hope he does, what a read that would be, he always will be a glasgow rangers legend in my eyes and it just didn't work out for him as rangers manager which has happened to many big name legends at football clubs in many countries, mccoist certainly made mistakes as our manager but he's one of our own and always will be as far as I'm concerned, we're the greatest fans in the world as ally himself has said on many, many occasions, if he does get the killie job I wish him all the very best but of course not against us, if he is the killie manager against us on tuesday the 16th let's show all the prying eyes that we undoubtedly are the greatest fans in the world and give one of our own the reception he deserves, that's the rangers way and the way we treat anyone who playedfor or managed our great institutional football club!

07 Feb 2016 21:34:35
It might be a decent book but we've all got a fair idea what went on behind the scenes. Not ideal conditions no doubt, but I'm sure the 18 grand a week made it that wee bit more bearable. A legend in my eyes as a player and always will be.

07 Feb 2016 21:40:22
Well said. there's only 1 super ally.

07 Feb 2016 22:16:00
The picture in my blue room is of coisty after scoring the diving header against celtic amazing times nothing but respect for the guy as a person as well met him tons of times and loved talking rangers and would take time to do so, the money does leave a bad taste but tbh if he never got it they crooks would have and he's done more for us than them could ever even if they nailed each other to crosses and burned themselves in a public execution.
Love the guy and it would be a standing ovation from me.

07 Feb 2016 22:37:20
Mccoist took the money made no stand on behalf of the fans his only stand was on his own wages he was a great player but as a manager I believe he went had in hand with the board and did nothing but make matters worse he was a spineless yes man who only cared about money and that includes wasting it as some of his signs were crazy and over priced I'm glad he is gone I do feel sorry for the killie fans if he gets the job get ready to go down the leagues and probably of business clueless at coaching with non existent tactics. After everything that our club went through and was nearly heading back to he still took the money endorsed the board time and time again even when it was obvious things weren't right the man just looked like a rat and if he had not have been a playing legend then I'm sure plenty of fans would hate him as I do.

07 Feb 2016 22:58:01
Why on earth would Killie want McCoist as manager?

He actually made Ronny Delia look competent.

Well said Gary75. He set our club back years and was happy to encourage fans to spend money on shares that would never show a profit while he got his at a penny a time. What's more when Donald Findlay said we were a new club Ally said nothing but happily had a drink with him. Utterly pathetic.

Thank God we now have a man like Mark Warburton in charge.

07 Feb 2016 23:12:22
StmonkeyRFC, I have a similar signed picture of coisty scoring against celtic at hampden in the cup semi-final when we beat them 1-0,our lb davie robertson was sent off early in the game that night, I was at the game into the bargain, the signed picture is only one of 100 made and hangs on my wall, the great celebrations and memories super ally gave me over the years will live with me to the grave, some 'gers fans have short memories but the majority still and always will love coisty! Legend forever and was given a working contract like anyone else whether he made a good manager or not, did many great things for our wonderful football club and is a cracking guy as I've also been in his company many times, coisty also gave his voting rights and shares to the east kilbride true blues rsc, which was the club he was a member of when he was a boy going to watch his beloved rangers, says it all about the mark of the man really, people forget about mostly all the brilliant things he did for glasgow rangers, I call these fans fickle 'gers fans with selected, short memories!

08 Feb 2016 00:45:57
McCoist is and always will be a legend.

07 Feb 2016 23:32:57
Not being one of you lot, but just a passing observer, and the way I see it there has been a lot of shenanigans and subterfuge going on and of field for the last few years and it is still going on, the difference now you have a proper manager, who is looking after the best interests of the team, it seems ludicrous now that a team struggling financially would stay at Turnberry, to break the trip to stranraer, or stop at Glenegles, to break the trip to forfar, if only fatsalary had did walking away at the start and you had got Warburton in then, you're club would be in a better position now, even if Charlie Green would still be around.

08 Feb 2016 03:40:19
Mcoist is a legend end of. Being a bad manager doesn't change that. No manager should have to go through what he went through. Also his players let him down badly I always felt. Most fans would have to admit that they were happy when he was signing SPFL players for the 3rd division. How stupid we were.

08 Feb 2016 06:05:10
Mcoist a legend simple as. ok he never had good spell as manager. could any manager fill walter smiths boots. mcoist one of our legends let's all don't be as low as the east end manky mob and give him a heros welcome just like we did with big jig. i'm quite sure there will be a huge roar if he is kilmarnock manager and all the best of luck to him but just not against us.

08 Feb 2016 07:43:50
What were all these terrible things he went through, recbob? We, the fans, went through worse. We just weren't handsomely rewarded for it. Poor Ally.

08 Feb 2016 07:48:01
Absolutely spot on. I got moaned at for defending him last year but he will ALWAYS be a legend. Well said everybody.

08 Feb 2016 08:09:17
Pro's and cons but still above all a goal scoring footballing legend, warbs15 I drove up for that semi final, one of the many great memories Super Ally and Rangers have given me, I also remember having to drive back to Southampton straight after the game in my boxer shorts after getting a drenching throughout the match happy days indeed.

08 Feb 2016 07:43:50
What were all these terrible things he went through, recbob? We, the fans, went through worse. We just weren't handsomely rewarded for it. Poor Ally.

08 Feb 2016 07:48:01
Absolutely spot on. I got moaned at for defending him last year but he will ALWAYS be a legend. Well said everybody.

08 Feb 2016 08:09:17
Pro's and cons but still above all a goal scoring footballing legend, warbs15 I drove up for that semi final, one of the many great memories Super Ally and Rangers have given me, I also remember having to drive back to Southampton straight after the game in my boxer shorts after getting a drenching throughout the match happy days indeed.

08 Feb 2016 09:09:10
mcoist was very well-paid for what he went through
and the fans were treated to some of the worst football
in our history
the same mcoist only managed to become a legend as most
of the players he played along with were international class players.

08 Feb 2016 12:19:20
Ally was a useless manager who could not maintain discipline or get the players performing and out of honour should have walked.
He was a playing legend and on that basis deserves a cheer if he comes back against us def not for managing regardless of the background problems.

08 Feb 2016 13:42:26
Ally was and is a legend, that man gave me some of my best memories as a Rangers fan growing up, will always be a legend in my eyes, who could forget the diving header against Leeds!

08 Feb 2016 16:54:30
As a player he was a legend. As a manager he was simply out his depth in a situation even the best of managers would have struggled in.

However reality is that he was paid well over the odds to keep him in the role as green knew that he could exploit his popularity with the fans and use it as a smoke screen. He was hopeless as a manager and made several key mistakes that were exposed last season.

1. Building a team full of over paid experienced pros rather than building a young team. Because he feared that if he took a chance on youth that he would fail.

2. He failed to stand up to green etc when staff who had worked at ibrox for years were booted out.

3. He lacked authority and the team lacked discipline under him.

4. His team was not trained properly and was unfit.

5. He hung on and got every penny he was due. This he was within his rights but to take close to 300k for nothing is little better than many of the other dubious characters that have drained our club.

6. He was tactically inept. We had no style of play or gameplan during his reign.

7. He alone was in a position where he could see first hand what was happening. Whatever his reasons he choose not to make a stand.


Probably more but I can not be bothered. Enough said.

08 Feb 2016 14:28:20
I can remember when he was surrounded by duds, bowmac.
Far from international players and put that mob to the sword many a time. In the pre-Souness days. As I've stated I'll always love the guy but spare me the hard done by bit.

07 Feb 2016 18:59:37
Here's a new topic guys, warbs wants 4-6 new players for next season. who would you like to see us sign in the summer?

07 Feb 2016 19:25:44
Sam Nicholson hearts
Kane Hemmings Dundee
Adam Rooney Aberdeen
Alex Pritchard Spurs
Will Vaulks Falkirk
Mikel Arteta Arsenal.

07 Feb 2016 19:39:27
Patterson
Hayes. Rooney
Kemar Roofe
Vaulks.

07 Feb 2016 20:18:06
Pritchard, Hayes and Vaulks I would happily take but I don't think we have a chance with either.

The others mentioned, for me, are no better than what we have already with the exception of Arteta, who I don't see coming back to us.

I am hoping that our new scouting system uncovers a couple of gems from the lower leagues in England or from Europe!

07 Feb 2016 20:18:11
Vaulks would be class but since Crooks is coming in I can't really see it, but would like to be proven wrong!

Callum Paterson
Sam Nicholson
Jason Cummings
Alan Judge
Blair Spittal.

07 Feb 2016 21:42:31
Defenitly cummings and callum patterson.

08 Feb 2016 09:20:02
Kane Hemmings
Alan McGregor
Blair Alston.

08 Feb 2016 09:23:49
Agree with most, I'd go for
Hayes (Aberdeen)
Paterson (hearts)
Stewart (Dundee)
Gauld (Lisbon, probably a loan deal)
Cummings (hibs)

08 Feb 2016 10:11:32
Cummings doesn't deserve to play for rangers no matter how good he is.

Jackson Irvine/ will vaulks
Kane hemmings
Korey Smith
Sam Nicholson
Danny batth
Do like Paterson a lot but we have tav.

08 Feb 2016 12:44:42
How does he not deserve to play for us? He's quality and we would take him in a heartbeat if he was available.

08 Feb 2016 13:26:04
I think the level of player banded about here is low in terms of quality some are ok but Jackson Irvine I've seen a few times and the boy can't take a touch without it being a 3 yrd pass for himself and kane hemmings why because he having 1 decent season I would hope we looked at players with better technical ability and fitness levels we see in England etc unearthed gems that can progress I can't see that with some of the names mentioned above.

08 Feb 2016 15:02:11
Cummings is a tadger. No doubt about it behaves worse than griffiths. Wouldn't survive in Glasgow, we don't need little divas like him. And Kane hemmings isn't having 1 good season since he left every season has been good. Irvine isn't there to pass the ball he's there to win it. Just like Scott Brown.

08 Feb 2016 19:27:47
Yeah cee that's the way to look at a modern day footballer Jackson Irvine isn't there to pass it he is there to win it . so what does he do once he wins it does he pick it up and look at it or maybe he just stands there taking selfies after winning it there is no way he would pass it dear oh dear modern day footballers the ones we want gers to sign should be able to be technically good win the ball see a pass and be able to play it we want rangers to sign players that will win the spl and compete in Europe eventually.

07 Feb 2016 15:00:13
there isn't half some drivel posted on here by aspiring football "experts" disguised as fans. !

can we not all start to look at the positives and stop finding fault with players, management and other clubs.

remember where we were 2 seasons ago and look as us now, top of the championship, still in the scottish cup, and in the petrofac cup final. On top of all that we have decent attendances, a scouting system, improvements at Ibrox and murray park ongoing, and most of all a decent management team.
Lets get POSITIVE guys, not negative.

07 Feb 2016 15:31:05
Wee Bill

People are entitled to give their opinion both good and bad and you having a cheap dig at them is poor. These forums are for all us Rangers fans to put forward our views and discuss and not for you to have a go at them. Is no one allowed to have an opinion that you don't like?

07 Feb 2016 15:41:12
biffo316 i agree with you that its all about opinions, My current opinion is that there is a lot of us, me included, that are too ready to pick holes instead of giving praise where due.
I never said I don't like the posts, it would just be nicer to see less negativity and more constructive viewpoints.
We are going in the right direction, let's not lose sight of the sh*t we have been dealt in the last few years,

07 Feb 2016 15:57:31
Wee Bill

I am just concerned with how the team will get on in the top division. I really hope that money will be spent during the close season and that we can bring in better players. Celtic are rotten however they are still better than we are and you can bet should we go up whoever their manager is will get cash to spend. Yeah the football we are playing is much better but we are in the 2nd tier and there is a difference in class from the championship to the premiership.

07 Feb 2016 16:34:03
Bill, we are all well aware of the past and what we have went through and where we are now. That said most of the negative posts I have read are constructive in the fact that they have solutions. We all know we are doing well and playing good stuff but the fact is bill if we don't have the penalty box goal scorer to take the chances we create then we will struggle against the "bigger teams". I think we also need a bit of muscle in midfield and a CB with experience. That's my opinion, now people might agree or disagree with me but like everyone else on here I'm entitled to have my say. A club like ours will always have certain expectations and we as fans expect the club to settle for nothing less than high expectations. To be honest bill it sounds as though you are happy to settle for less? . There is no point saying we should have won 3-0 yesterday and settle on the positives. We never won and must improve in front of goal. We are Rangers and we expect to win.

07 Feb 2016 16:49:45
Coldo

Best post on this site for a while mate. Couldn't agree more.

07 Feb 2016 16:49:49
I think waggy is superb but would be superber if we had a hateley type target man, he would pick up the scraps and with his undoubted skill dribbling and the like he will get 25 plus in the premier next year.

07 Feb 2016 17:25:12
Cheers biffo, waggy is top drawer but always vacates the centre when asked to play there and we end up with nothing through the middle. Hope ohalloran remit is stay in the box and play off the shoulder of the cb's. He's rapid and quite physical so hope he converts the chances we create. Also lads what is it with these short corners! We have to give teams something else to think about.

07 Feb 2016 17:30:06
I reckon that Coldo has hit the nail on the head

I am not so sure that there is that much difference between the SPL and the Championship and equally there is not much between ourselves, Hibs and Falkirk.

All of the above said, I expect Rangers to win the Championship this season and win the SPL or be close to it next season. Unfortunately I don't get too warm a feeling that we will with the current players and while I welcome the manager's comments that he will look to sign five players those players will need to be better than what we have already and personally I would like to see quality out and out goal scorer and a quality midfield player that can ope up a defence.

I would also like to see a quality centre back that can organise the defence.

Of course, one positive is that the majority of the team for next season will have a full season together so we should have a side that is used to playing together.

Let's hope that our Scouting team can uncover a couple of gems! A reincarnation of Baxter or Gazza would be perfect!

07 Feb 2016 15:45:18
Couldn't agree more with you bill. The club and team heading back to the position a club of our stature should be in. Think the current board given time will set the correct foundations for success going forward. But being a fan and expressing our opinions is what it's all about. Progression of the first team is still a bit off and there is some players who just aren't good enough.

07 Feb 2016 13:22:51
Any chance hearts could give us Nicholson too lol.

07 Feb 2016 14:26:12
Anybody got any doubts as to whether we can compete with Hearts now?

07 Feb 2016 15:41:51
Nah, we will strengthen would expect us to challenge celtic and Aberdeen. hearts totally collapsed the second half.

07 Feb 2016 16:01:59
Cee we are far off from challenging for the spl, I think we're in for a shock next year after 4 years in the lower leagues, I hope I'm wrong but i think it's going to takes us a season to get back up to the speed of things,4 years is a long time to be playing mostly part time clubs, don't get me wrong having hibs challenging us this year is a major help, if we do find it hard next year i hope the fans keep the faith, but something tells me that won't happen and most will expect us to carry on where we left off.

07 Feb 2016 16:42:04
Do you not think we will sign players that will enable us to challenge tho? It's not as if hibs would struggle in the spl with the team they have.

07 Feb 2016 16:52:05
Cee

The expectations are far much higher at Ibrox than they are at Easter road. If both teams go up Hibs would be over the moon if they finished 6th. How do you think our fans would react to finishing 6th?

07 Feb 2016 10:29:36
Forrester is here till the summer you can't judge a player that is not match fit and has made a few sub appearances if Warburton sees a player then that's good for me and if he doesn't come good he is away in the summer good business.

07 Feb 2016 11:54:01
Problem is he doesn't have much time to prove himself and needs to hit the ground running. Not sure he is better than what we already have and would have preferred a midfielder instead of him. However he is here now and should be given a chance.

07 Feb 2016 12:25:20
I agree only time will tell I think we should get Blair spital and billy Mackay from Dundee u I think they would both add to our team and would want to play in the top league.

07 Feb 2016 13:18:27
Spittal is bang average, mackay is good right enough, still think jackson irvine/ will vaulks would be perfect.

07 Feb 2016 13:46:18
Vaulks is got to be on the radar.

07 Feb 2016 14:06:23
Spittal is not average he will be a great player with the right tutalige he will be a great player.

07 Feb 2016 19:02:19
Right behind you stuzo, I really do hope we sign will vaulks, everytime he's played against us he's been superb, I really rate him very highly.

07 Feb 2016 08:33:33
Can anyone give a logical explanation for being cup-tied?

It's disappointing that O'Halloran won't feature in the cup and I fail to distinguish between league and cup games and any advantage a team could get in one and not the other in signing a player.

07 Feb 2016 12:15:00
McKay tends to run at players stop when he gets to them then decide how he is going to get past them instead of going past them first tine. How many times did get cut inside a player yesterday stop and try and beat him again only to, loose the boy, all right player but have never believe all the hype still learning. The Wee Arsenal lad need to put on about 2 stone in weight and needs to stay out the box he gets in the way at times gets a noise bleed every time he's in the box, our best 2-4 yard passer of a ball we gave though!

07 Feb 2016 12:32:10
Everyone always negative abt zelalem. Be patient lads he would get a game for anyone bar the manky mob in prem. Hope we get him for next year aswell.