Rangers Banter Archive July 07 2015

07 Jul 2015 18:08:53
This is the way I see this season coming.

We do not need to spend big the players we are buying/getting in cheap or free are better than what we've had for a few years.

If we keep the costs down can only be good as then we will have money left to do scouting infrastructure and sort out the mess that the old previous regimes left us.

The players I would love to see at rangers and this is only my opinion are as follows.


Scott Allan
Yedlin loan spurs
Dele alli loan spurs
Loza 200k Norwich

07 Jul 2015 20:08:19
Ha like your thinking Alexcee but we have absolutely NO chance of getting Yedlin, he will be loaned out to another premier league team to gain experience in the division and then will push Walker for the RB slot, the guy has immense pace and stamina and once he adjusts to the BPL will be a quality RB

07 Jul 2015 21:48:54
Craig I disagree there, yedlin will never be Spurs quality, i'm still confused to this day why Spurs bought him, pace yes, stamina yes. Good player no.

07 Jul 2015 23:30:41
As I said guys it was just my opinion. Yes yedlin has great pace etc but spurs already have trippier and walker for rb so in my opinion he is up for grabs to make an impression.

I could of said the likes of mcginn will sign and Jason holt and the two guys that are on trial but that's not what I would like to happen that's what is more than likely will happen

07 Jul 2015 20:10:56
True no big spending as look 3 years down the line what that has achieved. 128 million & still no Ramsden's or Petrofac Training Cup!!!. A few youngsters on loan could unveil a gem like CfC reportedly getting Europe's best teenager.

08 Jul 2015 00:17:24
What is the BPL?

{Ed001's Note - BPL = Barclays Premier League.}

08 Jul 2015 07:30:13
Cfc getting Europe's best teenGer? Who sterling haha?

08 Jul 2015 10:30:51
Did you watch the World Cup last year onlyshowaround?

Yedlin played really well in the games he came on as a sub and revenue he was only 20 years old at the time, still only 21 and has lots of potential, as for never being Spurs quality, walker has had absolutely no competition over the past few seasons and Dier had to be played out of position to cover walker as he's pretty injury prone. Heflin may never get the chance to prove himself at Spurs like many before him but I think he has a lot of potential and Pochettino obviously seen something as well to sign him in the 1st place

08 Jul 2015 10:42:40
I think TIT is referring to the Norwegian 16year old oddegard who is at Real Madrid who Ronny Deila is getting all the credit as the man who "developed" him into the player he is today,seemingly Madrid "might" consider loaning him to the eastenders ,and who would this 16year old replace in the 1st team TIT if indeed he was to be loaned to your elite team of superstars?

08 Jul 2015 12:05:29
Sterling the 20 year old?

08 Jul 2015 18:30:20
3 disagrees lol.He's 20!. There's an abundance of good youth coming thru ie from the next generation squad & under20's. Plenty options available where RD could find to play the guy. Where's the next Superstar fleck gone?!The young guy could walk into the Rangers team but with the gulf in class he would be on the bench at Celtic. Rogic.Henderson. McGregor.Fisher,& another 2 or 3 youngsters will be given game time over the season bedding them into hopefully 1st team regulars. How's the youth academy or young emerging talent at Sir David Murray Park???

07 Jul 2015 15:44:53
I would like us to go for Cummings fae hibs, any thoughts

07 Jul 2015 18:00:06
I would like to go for lot players ,but looks like we are going with what we got and maybe at push 2-3 others. Unfortunately I don't think Mr Kings big funds are appearing any day soon. I hope am wrong. Its the season ticket money we are to be working on, and I don't know if that is also to pay the loans to King and co first? because they don't have to tell us because we got de-listed, bloody hell.

07 Jul 2015 18:24:26
Why blow the bank to get a huge squad? Proper management and training with players we have and a few more should do it for now. We can reassess in the next window. Having 4 or 5 squad players on 5 grand a week is 20 to 25 k a week we don't need to spend as we can blood the youth and reap the rewards of a proper run academy at murray park.

07 Jul 2015 14:14:02
Can anybody tell me why Kenny Miller is still there because I thought he signed the same kind of deal as kris Boyd which was a year with an option of another year if we got promoted

07 Jul 2015 14:34:30
Triggered an appearance-related contract extension mate.

07 Jul 2015 14:37:25
kenny millers contract had clause if he played a certain amount of games it was automatically renewed

07 Jul 2015 15:37:45
Cheers lads now I know

07 Jul 2015 18:02:49
Bloody farce if that's the case,,,,,,,,,, He was one of the bunch who failed us. time to go,, Mr Miller or have you no scruples. King down cried you ,,, have you nothing to say about that ,,,,,,at present?? wondered why you never joined your team mates who left at end of season in their moans.

07 Jul 2015 12:34:51
Why are we all panicking on here about players let's just be patient and c what happens am sure warburton and king for the matter are well aware we need players and just not going public with there plans remember this is a 3 year plan the guys only been here for 3 weeks as ave says on here before quality over quantity now no more big spending on duds

07 Jul 2015 13:12:02
I will tell you why I am panicking a bit is due to the fact that Hibs are way ahead of us in terms of a settled side.Just like Hearts were last year. And we have them first up in the Petrofac training cup which I want us to win and we play them again on 22nd August in the league. I am delighted with the transfers so far and have faith in Warburton and Weir but a little alarmed by the lack of attacking midfielders and strikers being link to us. We badly need a quality creative player and Striker that will score 20 plus goals a season.

07 Jul 2015 15:23:26
No panic from me we will have a solid defence this time against Hibs for first time in years plus the dross have left the building

Hardie and Miller will lead the attack and midfield will be Murdoch, Walsh, Eustace with either McKay or Shiels between mid to attack

We still have three weeks until then and could very well have Winks of Spurs on loan plus I am sure W&W will have at least 2 others. Halliday who apparently has been on great form on trial is another option in midfield

Hibs were a good team they are not a great team we will beat them and we will win the Championship by a distance

07 Jul 2015 15:42:21
The league isn't won in august give w&w a bit of space to get the right players in there'll be new signings coming I'm glad they're taking there time and not rushing into any rash signings. I also think we will get a quality play maker and striker on loan maybe from spurs

07 Jul 2015 17:52:18
KT

How can u possibly say what the team will be to face Hibs? You then go on to say we have a few weeks left and could get players in. Would also disagree with your assumption that the dross has left. Still plenty of dross left there

07 Jul 2015 17:53:00
KT

There is no way Eustace will play against Hibs

08 Jul 2015 16:19:39
So Eustace injury is fine according publicly to our Asst Manager David Weir and he just has to get fit. You are trying to say a professional athlete cannot get fit in 3 weeks? Seriously?

lad you are so confident as I assume Hibs will be too.

Stewie you post some common sense and I accept I can't KNOW the team but it is a banter site ant the players I mentioned will be the favourites for contention in the current squad if we trust Warburtons faith in youth I think Hardie will win out as he is the best of Gallagher and certainly Clark, Miller backs him up as experienced and still fit for age. I will be surprised if the team varies much from:

Foderigham
Wallace Wilson Kiernan Wabara
Walsh Murdoch Eustace Halliday
Hardie Miller

Subs- Bell (hope he is sold), McGregor Sinnamon, Shiels/Law (hope Law sold), Clark, Templeton/McKay (depending what the problem is with Temps)

I hope we will bring in another good attacker on loan plus a creative midfielder and/or winger but based on current names that is the side I think (banter) will start the season for us. Personally I think Wallace will be found wanting unless Warburton is the rumoured miracle worker with players who are underachieving.

07 Jul 2015 10:45:02
Lots of rumours about new signings and the three so far announced look good. What do fellow Bears think about W&W being given a chance to assess players like Gallagher, Gasparotto, Hardie, Mackay and Walsh. I take it everyone agrees that Murdoch must continue as a first choice midfielder. And what about Nicky Law? Opinions please!

07 Jul 2015 13:29:59
I think Gasparotto could figure in the first team this season and possibly sinnamon, Hardie is a cracking young player and I think he will get a good deal of first team action this season. Murdoch is a no brainier, boy will only get better and having someone like Eustace to learn from would benefit him greatly. As for Mackay, I don't think he's improved over the last few seasons, I know McCoist didn't give youth much of a chance but seen Mackay on a few occasions and really didn't see anything that would indicate he would become a first team regular, hope the lad proves me wrong and forces his way into the team but just can't see it

07 Jul 2015 14:10:04
Personally I would gladly drive Nicky Law to the front door of any club in the UK who wants him all he does is get caught ball watching and getting caught out of position

07 Jul 2015 08:47:47
Who was a worse manager PLG or Ally?

07 Jul 2015 08:55:13
Who cares! Onwards and upwards.

07 Jul 2015 09:07:02
It's not something to get depressed about mate, I was just wondering what people thought. I reckon PLG would have do a lot for us had he been given more time. I also think W&W will need some time to get things going they way they want aswell, I just hope we give them the time they need.

07 Jul 2015 09:09:32
macoist by a country mile le guen was a gentleman he walked away and did not take the money due to him it was unfortunate he never got a chance with his ideas thanks to big headed players who did not want to move out of their comfort zone and adapt to new methods and ideas player power pushed him out the door

07 Jul 2015 09:25:53
A man after my own heart, Bigad.

07 Jul 2015 10:06:35
Alex McDonald mentions PLG in recent articles commenting he was not mentally prepared for managing Rangers.player power had him removed as we all know but W & W are a different breed altogether.the honeymoon could be brief but for the first time in many years we have optimism about the club moving in the right direction. it will not be easy, we will have our set backs but with Ceptic rapidly turning into Dundee Utd the difference between the two clubs is not insurmountable in the coming years

07 Jul 2015 10:33:52
TrueBlueDrew

I just heard a rumour that Celtic have put in bids for Dundee United mascot Terry the Terror and Lorraine Kelly.

As for PLG or Ally.

Well, after managing Rangers, one left not even demanding a payout and went on to manage PSG and two national squads.

The other became a gardener and insists on receiving every last penny due to him.

07 Jul 2015 10:42:09
Let's just hope W&W get the time Ally got as opposed to the time PLG got. I'm excited about the furure under the new management team but I'm also prepared for some hard times, if the players hit the ground tunning then great but I just hope we don't call for heads if things don't work out right away.

07 Jul 2015 20:11:21
PLG was really ill prepared and has admitted himself he didn't do his homework regarding Rangers. I also think it's unfair to blame Ferguson for his exit too. Got the feeling he was quite happy to walk and had already had PSG lined up. Ally was by far a worse manager than him and the only reason why he isn't the worst manager ever at the club is only because McDowall took over

08 Jul 2015 06:45:23
Let's just hope Warburton is not stupid enough to ban monster munch or there could be another revolt.

08 Jul 2015 09:17:07
PLG totally underestimated Scottish football and made some poor signings. Karl Svensson, a centre half who couldn't header a ball being one. However, he should have been given a lot more time than he was given. Player power won in the end, and look where that got us! McCoist on the other hand went the other way, signed old SPL players who he wouldn't need to coach, ignored the youth and paid the consequences.

07 Jul 2015 05:00:24
There are a lot of us on here who think King, T3B and Board are not the answer for our Club and by us I don't pay any attention to the Celtic fans who care about us so much they put their tuppence worth in, they don't count as they are bitter enough to come on here.

I know there are probably some trolls who pretend to be Rangers fans amongst you which is sad. You take every opportunity to criticise the Board and daily predict the Boards failure or incompetence on a variety of current and future issues even before they happen. That's all well and good, you are all entitled to your opinions.

What is very, very disappointing is not one of you ever offer a solution or an alternative that would be, in your opinion better than our current Board or the Management Team they have employed.

Why don't you post your idea of a better option than the Board instead of just being negative about them and their decisions. Please let us all here your idea of an alternative to the Board that you think are so bad

I look forward to hearing your suggestions.

07 Jul 2015 07:20:22
Gers 68

Just because some of us have reservations about what the Board has done since they took control, doesn't mean we want them REMOVED and a completely new structure put in place.
A fans forum is a place for all opinions including dissenting ones. Otherwise you just become North Korea or Phil Mcghoullishbaws.
Ownership by the RST would be the ideal outcome but that's a pipe dream. DK has talked about greater fan representation and accountability but we will have to wait for a new share issue and probably a year or two to see how that pans out.
My concerns are that - so far - the rhetoric hasn't been matched by deeds. It is DK who has come out with phrases like 'over-investment', 'whatever it takes' and 'unlimited budget'. He assures us that reptile Ashley isn't a problem. I want to believe DK. I don't want him to go. But I do want him to show me (some of) the money.

07 Jul 2015 08:04:27
its ok slating the board about investment but we must give thhem at least a year to see how things go financially this year will be another fair sized loss which they will have to come good for they will also have to underwrite the the share iissue which I don't see a great clamour of instituitions to buy only fans groups and individuals (i won't buy due to past losses and there will be many like me)but u have to weigh what we want what we have got and the past regimes obviously real madrid /barcelona model is best but I don't see that happening anytime soon I have also got to say I was not one of kings supporters before the takeover and think his boycott campaign has come back to bite him with the lack of season book sales but in eneral its a sucket and see situation but we are certainly in a better place than this time last season and I have to say of all the money that was plundered /wasted macoist was up there with the rest of the wahoos who tried to bleed the club dry that's aproblem we don't have now and personally I am excited by the new management team co basically we must give king and co their shot at the title

07 Jul 2015 08:15:39
Show you the money??
Who do you want Warburton to spend money on?
I am sure they have a list of players they want to sign. If they think that there are players of the required quality who they can get for nothing, why go for a player who might not be any better but would cost half a million quid. If they can get a team together on a shoestring then surely that is better for the club.
I am sure if there are players who require a transfer fee then the money will be given, but no point spending for the sake of it.
There is still a couple of weeks before the season starts and the transfer window doesn't close until the end of August, so come on folks give Warburton a chance to do what he thinks is right.

07 Jul 2015 10:07:44
We should perform better financially this year by getting rid of 11 overpaid under performers. Probably on about 10k a week give or take so that's probably about the 5m plus mark then bonuses etc that we are saving. Doubt any of the new signings will be on that amount. I don't know where all the other millions have gone though. Hopefully the board can regulate spending more efficiently. I think its good to have guys like park on the board and investors I don't think they would stand for all the money dissapearing as its their investments that are at stake as well as the club they are supporting.

I hope the club has notified sports direct that their 7 year arrangements won't be renewed unless they are renegotiated drastically.

07 Jul 2015 13:49:36
Kingkyle

Over investment? They have already invested £3m just to get us through the end of last season and if we get 30,000 they will have to invest £6m to get through next season on last years figures so that's £9m over investment so far, without additional investment for players, an increased wage bill or repairs to Ibrox/MP.

They will also have to over invest on players and wages to compete in the SPL the following season.

There are too many of us who don't see big money signings being made so they think the board are not investing. Hearts cruised this league without any last season, would you rather the board spent £3m on a couple of players and another million plus on their wages when we don't need them just to pacify some expectant fans? I wouldn't , I'd much rather have the shrewd, measured approach the Board are taking.

They are investing plenty because it will take plenty even for us to stand still never mind move forward.

As for the RST, a great idea but they don't have money to plug gaps in finance say if there was no CL money one season. If they did own Rangers season tickets would have to double so that they covered most of the £20m a year its costs to run us at present and more like £30m it will cost to run us when in the SPL and competing to get into the CL. Other income would cover buying players and property maintenance and improvement.

We need to get real we don't have a sugar daddy any more and surely after the last 3 n a half years a sugar daddy is the last thing we need, King and co are right they are building a Club that can sustain itself, anyone who doesn't want that are mad mate.

07 Jul 2015 14:06:48
Im one of the many supporters who are with holding judgement on king until he gets a bit of time. But he isn't helping himself by contradicting things he said.