Rangers Banter Archive March 07 2013

07 Mar 2013 16:09:06
put it this way. six month ago we were broke. now we have twenty odd million in bank debt free. that cannot be bad. green was on a web site today. nothing new said, would have liked him to confirm that ibrox capacity would go up in a couple of years

Capacity can't be increased as structural work would dislodge the existing asbestos. This then would have to be removed. that's why the work to be done is mainly cosmetic.

07 Mar 2013 17:20:15
Glad to see you living in a wonderful world of make believe, and sweat want to be dreams.

You may have some funds in the bank, with costs still over over £1 million a month, you might want to consider how long your balance will last.

As for a rebuild programme, please explain to a simple soul like myself how do you or Mr green intend to fund such a project, you fans did not even buy all the shares that were offered, why do you think they will fork out for further capital programmes at Ibrox. I would wait to see the budget balanced first before spending money you neither have, nor are likely to be funded by any bank.

Sorry if your blue tinted bubble has just been busted.

6 months ago we also had a club that finished 2nd in the SPL.

Mate wake up, Its £2.4m a month to run The club. Yes the share money rocked up in December but about £2m went out in footballing debts in February. £4.8m jan + feb running costs. Orlit is chasing a final £400k but already received payments in Jan/feb (so more out). About £3m corporation tax due plus NI and PAYE for everybody. End of financial year bonuses to pay (31st March).

I'd be extremely surprised if there's £13m left by mid March. By end June probably £5m.

Lowering the pitch would mean we wouldn't need to amend the structure and allow for additional seats

@5. Are you serious? let's get murrays hover pitch idea in then if we are talking nonsense.

Well we LOWERED the pitch in 1992 which added an additional 1300 seats. So yes I guess I am serious.

Re the response of 3] so are you saying current difference is Greens fault?

In the 3 stands at ibrox ther cannot be asbestos. It was banned as a building material about 1974 I am sure.

@7; And the money comes from where? Remember the workings under ibrox will have to be strengthened.

07 Mar 2013 22:55:07
re. asbestos
3 types of asbestos used in construction (crocidolite, amosite & chrysotile). 2 were banned in 1985, the other in 1999. V. good chance of asbestos in the stadium.

Every football stadium in the uk built pre 1990s will have asbestos in its structure somewhere - its simply too expensive to remove the asbestos.

@4 your maths is terrible, that would maybe be true if there was no income, your just thinking of outgoings and taking it away from 21 million

@13) ok mate, that's some of the expenditure. You name some of the income.

@7 so you lowered the pitch once and got 1300 seats. how low do you think the pitch can go. When you lower the pitch you put it further in shade (leads to poor quality growth) need to put in extra drains, and reduce the pitch dimentions. Also if do it Lower the pitch by the same distance you will get few extra seats. Do you think its really worth it for say 700 seats? {The Ed039's Note - Its not going to happen. The capacity of Ibrox is adequate. There are still empty seats. If you max out every game consistently then its something to be considered but not now)

Charles green has already talked about filling in the corners, and raising one of the roofs to add at least 10k plus to the capacity. personally I would like to see one of the stands, standing only, and cushioned seats with more space. its too cramped currently, with the screens beeing above the pitch like some of the german stadiums. as for the money in the bank. do u people not listen. we have been told these 6 months included little merchandise, sponsorships, wages to players who deserted. most of the 22 million in bank will remain in bank as income comes in, which we simply didn't have, plus wasted outgoings. next year will see profits. and by the time we are back in spl (we will be in first division next year as they can't afford not to). and europe, we will be cash rich and recruiting the best in scotland.

And where is the fans coming from to fill it? you can't fill the one you got just now with cheap tickets so how do you expect to fill when the ticket prices triple

@16. Are you serious? Any structural work would cause problems with asbestos dust meaning it would then need removed. Raising roofs? Again structural work problems. Money in the bank? FFS £1m is being lost per week at the moment as for sponsorship, have you seen any numbers yet? Try and think instead of following a guy who just says what you want to hear.

@18 when did rangers start losing 1m per week. Rangers will get back on their feet, increased season ticket price will bring in an increased revenue. Tickets will be probably priced in region of 300£, bringing in roughly 12millipm between season tickets and ticket sales - allowing us to break even at a very minimum

07 Mar 2013 11:52:50
No ones mentioned because its not worth it but only watched the 1st half last night & they did a compilation of Lennons touch line antics during the break, Spitting, kicking the ground, I'm no lip reader but was clearly swearing his head off then he rips a peice of chewing gum out his mouth like it was a bit of sh@t and launches it up the touch line Mourihno said as he gets older he's got calmer but still enjoys to win just in a different way than he used too by not showing his emotions quite the same but if you look at Lennon he's like a Child throwing wobblys like that he's showed very little class through out his playing career & is just getting even worse as a manager there's passion & there's just being a wee aggressive ned who's never been taught any manners throwing a suit on him doesn't change that.

Larky Bear

Larky Bear, perhaps it's a touch of envy that you rant so much about N. L. If he was taking your team to last 16 in C. L. , you wouldn't be commenting on his dress etc.
We get it-----you don't like him. Dig deep here-----which Celtic manager DID you like?O'Neill, Strachan?Interested in your reply.

Good god will you people give it up! Why would how he removes chewing gum annoy you so much? "I'm no lip reader but was clearly swearing" so you can lip read then? Why the hate I wonder?

To no name and no name below.

How bitter and twisted are you. NL has matured in the last couple of years when you think what he has gone through. He has passion and a good understanding of the game.

Can the same be said for Ally all he seems to do is stand in his technical area with his fingers in his ears saying na na na na I can't hear you.

I thought you would be concentrating on your big game last night the reserves v ayr but no all you think about is Neil Lennon. If I was a deady bear I wouldn't be concerned with NL I would be asking questions of CG and what he is up to because from what I see all he is doing is pandering to the fans and Lining his pockets when you are not looking.

Ian

Ian

To a extent I agree the problem is I sometimes thing he forgets he's got the camera on him but to say he has no class is a bit low, I totally understand Lennon and rangers fans will never see eye to eye but as a manager he's getting a lot of respect from top managers all over Europe for what he's done, players/managers like Lennon learn as they get older it must be the red hair as he can go from 1 to 10 in seconds.

Ps well in the rangers fans who have said well done to Celtic in Europe, when rangers done there ufea cup run yeah I wanted them to lose every game but the back had is it puts Scottish football back on the map so as much as I didn't like saying it I always said well in to then

Lenny

I would much rather have Lennon showing a bit of desire, emotion, even aggresion rather than have McCoist on the touchline, arms folded, rooted to the spot with the vacant clueless look permanently on his mug. Lennon has calmed down considerably and I don't think my fellow tims would change this element of his management. And don't lie, he was looking pretty smart last night!

G93

As a celtic fan I have to agree that his behaviour is not always the best but I would rather have this than sally just standing there clueless and not showing any emotion

Larky all managers /coaches are different mate I'm a Celtic supporter and sometimes I look at Lenny and think wtf and sometimes you must look at ally and his staff and think going to unfold your arms and fecken show some emotion? Gmp

Your 100% spot on. its not worth it. and thanks to you now we don't know what dummy goes back into to what pram. what colour was yours?

Who cares wot lennons doing

What a complete joke you are! Go back to you little hole, let's have a camera on you and see your reaction when your club is losing to the worst club in Scotland and in football for you haven't won a game against them. Look at all the coaches they get mad when thier players and team are not playing well. For you to say Lennon is the only one who does this or acts that way just shows who you are, I mean if he saved a family member of yours we would still hate hi say he did it all wrong.
Why don't you go away with your hate you joker, your thoughts show you up as people and greats in the game say Lennon is a great manager to bad no one is talking about for manager or club eh? Well you are talking abut your manager but it is to sack him, you will be living in hate for a long time as Lennon is going to be very successfull so enjoy living in hate for many a years to come you sad little person.

And again the obsession with Scotland's biggest team goes on. Larky Bear saying he only watched the 1st half is a lie, you know and we all know it. So from now on we know that your posts are most probably lies. You're pathetic and it is people like you that gives decent Rangers fans a bad name, clown

Think you'll find the difference in Lennon & McCoist's respective postures are more to do with their training ground and pre match instructions being followed to the letter. one is a tactition and the other isn't. Lennon knows exactly what he's looking for individually & collectively from his players where as McCoist, because of his tactical ineptitude, leaves his teams to lump balls up the park hoping for the best and therefore isn't so antimated due to his low expectation levels. given the choice I know what manager I'd want. the only fly in the ointment with regards to Lennon is the way he gets rid of his chewing gum. that's shocking. !!

Larky, well done, you take sad to new unprecented levels with the bulk of your posts but I'd imagine being critical of how his team performs and perhaps how many miles he is ahead of your own manager in terms of ability leaves his chewing gum antics as about your only ammunition.

Gaz

Charles Green and Ally McCoist tell lies. have told lies on camera and been quoted by journalists and the quotes were not truthful.
Is that your definition of class?

As Tomalley calls it I was just doing a bit of fishing and got quite a bit of poundage on those bites lol look guys I've commended Lennon on a lot of good work he's done his signing policy is 2nd to none in Scotland it took time but he created a good Celtic squad which is probably the best it's going to get and congrats to him for that yes hel lose players but I have no doubt he will fill me with envy when he signs a better player cheaper & on less wages than what McCoist will get I just don't like how he acts & it's clear to see why Rangers Fans don't like him I also have great respect for Martin Oneill he's done a good Job everywhere he's went and u can't knock that and I didn't need to dig deep to say it. I'm fond of ex Celtic players such as John Hartson & Charlie Nicholas Paulo Di Canio afew others and I can turn round and give Celtic Players credit where it's due I think Wanyamas a excellent player on his day & for some reason I like big Samaras as a footballer think he's come
On leaps & bounds under Lennon was unplayable in my 1st old firm at Ibrox ripped us apart & scored 2 goals broke my heart but respect for how quick he proved to be that day. Anyway just felt like being a bit of a Torment after your CL Exit Lennon always does something to be moaned at @6 & @7 you nailed it by the way mate and at least u didn't take my post too seriously along with you Lenny your correct about the cameras & I know use guys love him so surely you can see why we say these things. Good luck to you hopefully Itl just be one trophy so I can slag Lennon off after a Scottish Cup exit lol remember its only Banter bhoys and we've been on the receiving end for the majority the past 2 years but Lennons always easy pickings lol

A good days fishing :)

Larky Bear

Fair do's Larky Bear open & honest post. you do realise you bagged me and I'm 19 stone lol.

07 Mar 2013 10:57:02
£90k purchase of shares yesterday, first for long time. Someone sees an upside.

07 Mar 2013 11:25:11
question. are you of the opinion that when anyone buys shares now that Rangers gets any of the money??
all the shares have been sold and rangers have that money in the bank £90K of shares sold only means that someone has sold £90K of shares and the seller has the £90K so he has £90K less what he paid for them as profit. JohnnyG

07 Mar 2013 11:28:54
yes someone sees the upside. but whoever sold the shares surely has seen the downside ( by your thinking) or is just after a quick profit.

I think these deals are people who know each other. Not open market type stuff.