Rangers Banter Archive May 07 2013

07 May 2013 20:07:26
Who constitutes the board at the moment?
Exec Directors:
Murray
Mathers
Stockbridge
Jabba?

Non Execs:
Smith
?

Who else?

For the Chairman, CEO and Commercial Director to leave within two weeks is very alarming.

I am also a very worried ST holder. I am not renewing until we are told the TRUTH about what is going on. WW

Dont think Traynors on the board. This is alarming news, looks like Green is still pushing the buttons.

STV online saying Walter Smith likely to go with M Murray.

I'm sure Jabba is feeding STV.
Their reporter outside Ibrox, shown online, finishes with Smith likely to go with the Chairman. Heads are rolling.

Where's the accounts? Who owns the assets? How much money in the bank? How much debt? Do these guys know the answers that's why they're getting out?

Officially Ibrox is saying NO COMMENT.

@1 normal Tim, glory hunter reply! your club needs sales to survive, so what is the answer, starve the club you love or support it?

Well we know already of £5.5 million of debt for the purchase of the new club! What about the debts of the old club? Conveniently forgotten about!
Admin 2 coming your way soon me thinks ;-) maybe could be a new world record couldn't it ;-) 2 admins in 1 year! Maybe pushing pompee for that one!

08 May 2013 07:15:21
@5 I'm sorry, but why exactly is it that the club needs sales to survive. let's repeat that, needs sales to survive. Where the f has all the share money gone? Why is our money being spent on crap overpaid players who we don't need? Looks to me like Green has done exactly what he said he was going to do right back at the start, come in, make some cash then p*ss off. In the process he quickly realised that to do that he had to falsely appeal to the 'loyalty' of the fans, ie he played the loyal card and abused our trust. I think @1 represents a growing view that perhaps real loyalty to the club requires more than just pouring our cash in to whoever is able to take it (and let's face it we haven't got a fkn clue who's got what power anymore). Maybe loyalty is looking at the bigger picture and looking to use the fans power in a more productive way than letting people rip the p*ss out of us, like "just tell them its the loyal thing to do and the persons won't be able to say no. " Not buying STs might jeapordise the club, but equally it might make the bloodsuckers think about packing up and leaving us to it.

@5 Who are you to tell me that I am starving my club of money. I have been putting plenty in so where is the money going. Too many people putting their hands in the pot and leaving the fans to pick up the pieces. WW

07 May 2013 12:07:05
If it was ever in doubt Green is still in charge at Ibrox the vote against Malcolm Murray surely proves it.
There are two people fans trust now, Walter and Ally. Time for them to break the silence and tell fans what they know or are suspicious of. They are both millionaires so if they get sacked they won't starve, but their dignity will be intact. Are these rumours of another administration true?

Strange that when Charles Green was at Ibrox he failed to get rid of Malcolm Murray but now he and Ahmad have gone they've achieved their wish to get rid of him.

Agree Walter really has to speak out now and tell us the truth with absolutely no fudging.

Do you not think Ally is a huge part of the problem, he endorsed Green, enjoyed buying penny shares and takes a huge wage for him and his backroom staff to win a Part-Time League! Rangers need at this moment in time. 1. Fan representation on the board. 2. A complete and utter confession to the Fans of what has happened to their Club. 3. A real new beginning where they can be self financing with a strict cost structure in place. 4. Then a true and real rise through the ranks. There are only 2 Clubs in Scotland who can do this and one of them is doing ok.

Charles Green may not be CEO, but he is still a director. Smoke and mirrors. Murray has a reputation to protect, and will have wanted to do the right thing w. r. t. independent commission. His ousting is a very very bad sign w. r. t. who is running things at Ibrox, and who they are running things for!

@2) fan representation on the board was Malcolm Murray. Lifelong season Ticket holder, Lifelong Fan was how he described himself. A fan as Chairman.

All that's needed is Stockbridge and Mathers to slink away leaving Ally, Walter and Traynor with no cash and a basket case.

I don't understand why Murray getting a vote of no confidence has anything to do with Green. Green is only a shareholder, he has no say on the board and certainly can't push through his own agenda. Green wanted shot of Murray, now Green is away the rest of the board have voted.

You are taking conspiracy theories too far, it's maybe he is just no good at his job?

@4 Yes fair point however real Fan representation is when that fan gives everyone else the information they need to make an informed decision. Malcolm Murray was Charles Greens choice not the fans. A transparent world is needed more now than ever at Rangers.

Bay bear, I think you are crazy if you think DM will somehow appear to be the saviour. Firstly he couldn't afford to buy anything, secondly the fans would not allow it, thirdly he couldn't wait to sell, why would he come back?

Sources state that " It is believed that Mr Green, who quit as chief executive following revelations surrounding his links to Mr Whyte, took part in the board meeting on Monday via a conference call facility"
Green still rules the roost at Ibrox and will until he has fleeced us dry.
Standing down never made him lose any powers, moved his people into his old place, all it done was fool some of our support into believing we were getting our club back from money grabbing scum

(5) Green resigned as CEO. But this exit was engineered by him. He's not yet resigned as a director though. Staying on until the end of May. Unfinished business, ye ken?

He is busily engineering an entry for the Krays, sorry I mean Easdales to take over.

Murray has a reputation to protect and wanted to go to the AIM & SFA with independent commissions findings on Green's takeover, and sound the alarm that all is not well with Green, Ahmed and the rest (as per John Brown's predictions).

But CG doesn't want that little piece of prose seeing the light of day, until he has cashed in his chips at the AIM casino, and he is fighting dirty.
Board are backers and placemen, except MUrray who was only brought in to give the flotation a semblance of legitimacy.

Murray won't go down without a fight, and will be honest in his pronouncements, although the bears may not like what he has to say!

Expect story to break on C4 TV news sometime over the next 1-7 days.

Remember : Murray hasn't told a lie yet. If Charles Green caught himself accidentally telling the truth, he'd lie twice over just to keep his hand in.

07 May 2013 02:42:11
well done Allan Johnson on winning manager of the year, hardly any money to spend, probably an average gate of 500-600, take notes ally. I don't think its right that you should be wanting to squander more money that the club can't afford or maybe don't have. try doing it the correct way, not the Walter way, spend spend spend.

Totally agree. A manager with a modest budget romps to victory deserves manager of the year over a manager who has 100times the spending power of his opponents, the his fans greet he didn't win the only thing they couldn't buy.

Would have been my choice slightly ahead of big Terry and Derek Adams.

As a celtic fan. I could not agree more

I'm a celtic fan but I say Allan Johnson is a worthy winner of award. some quick figures for you guys to consider though. qots turnover is £700k, wage budget is £350k (based on 20 players/10 that's less than £12k pa). Qots won div 2 by 28 points!

Surely then with a wage budget of just £700k you would be able to romp the league by more than 28 points. what is your wage budget anyway? roughly - £5m? £6m?

Hats off to qots for showing what can be achieved with hard work, good management and a bit of hunger.

@4 what's celtics wage budget? Surely you could romp your league by 28 points?

I expect queens to be thumped next season it was a 1 season wonder

#5 not sure to be honest, but don't know what that's got to do with anything, I would expect with our wage budget to win 33/34 out of 36 games in div2 and would regard anything less as an embarrassment.

The point I am making is, Mccoist and the rangers players, with a wage budget maybe 10x that of qots will be hard pushed to achieve what qots achieved this season.

I'd suggest its going to go a long way to prove that Allan Johnston is a far better manager than ally mccoist.