Rangers Banter Archive December 08 2013

08 Dec 2013 17:16:17
Ally, the man charged with running our team and being open and honest with the fans, a man who didn't really look at his contract when he signed it, a man who you can trust.

I don't know if anyone notices any similarities in the words and lack of clarity in yesterdays quotes from Ally and every statement by incoming CEO's and Chairmen and custodians such as Whyte, Green, Mather and now Somers.

Asked if the board had accepted his offer, McCoist admitted: “Not yet. We have met on two or three occasions. My advisor met the previous chief exec and we more or less agreed terms but as yet nothing has happened.

“I’m hopeful that’s just down to the changeover because nothing has changed on my part. We feel it’s the right thing to do, we want to do it and we WILL do it – hopefully sooner rather than later.

“I would hope that the agreement we had, we could just continue with. ”

Yes it is clear as day Ally you have been found out still taking the same disgracefully overpaid salary and this is your lame 'Whytespeak' excuse.

Does that mean you will hand back the 50% you have been receiving since it was supposed to be stopped?I don't think so

The same way the 1p shares you bought as a fan will be sold at whatever the going rate and will line the pockets of our wonderful trustworthy manager.

Look bears I know the team is doing well but if ever you needed to see why a lot of Rangers fans, me included, will never see Ally the same way again these type of statements and the acting naive bs just gets people really angry as we are being treated like fools.

Ally can you try and do something real and show the fans you actually gve a f**k? Return the 50% of your salary from the start of Rangers financial problems well over a year ago and donate the sale of your 1p shares to either a charity or back into Rangers account AFTER the AGM.

That would show the fans you are not the same as these parasites that have robbed Rangers and sold us down the river the last 2 years.

This will obviously never happen, actually I am sure Ally probably never noticed the extra £100,000 he still got in his bank, we know he doesn't really pay attention to that money stuff.

Sick of the bs george

Good Evening George,

Let us assume Ally does as you request, he hands over his shares and takes a 50% cut on his outstanding contract. First year back in the SPL, Rangers under perform and Ally is sacked by Rangers with the backing of the fans.

Where is the loyalty now?

08 Dec 2013 19:34:49
"I don't know if anyone notices any similarities in the words and lack of clarity in yesterdays quotes from Ally and every statement by incoming CEO's and Chairmen and custodians such as Whyte, Green, Mather and now Somers. "

You'd almost think the same person at Media House was telling them all exactly what to say;)

How complicated is it to change a few dates and figures on a contract and get Ally to sign it?

After all he doesn't even look at contracts, just does what is best for the club lol

Change the record george, Allys earning his WAGES there are people at Ibrox putting nothing in and taking loads out, you george are picking on an easy target when there are bigger and harder targets that you could put your energy and secret info towards bringing down, I've said it before mate you started out with something to say but youve lost your way, why don't you actually come to Ibrox and support our team and our manager you might just enjoy it. P. S. Allys signings are all now starting to look good and how much did he pay for them this season?

He will only ever be sacked I feel if and when we were to be humiliated by the tims. I for one never ever want us to lose to them but if Allys managing skills shown last time he faced the mob from east when he had a 10 point lead are to be judged by then we will be pumped as the players we had then were vastly superior to the level I see us having in 2 years allowing for their financial situation and ours.

Loyalty is there for him if he wins simple, the money thing is down to him and if he can look fans in the eyes after all this.

george

@1, really not sure what you mean, but surely you cannot can't be suggesting he would be short of a bob or two.

Jyf

Mate you are the one with the record stuck, I am acknowledging his good work with team, even though as most on here say the players we signed way over the mark salary wise, but what I am trying to highlight for people still trusting Ally is his continuing lies/economy with truth.

You clearly can see no wrong in these actions I do

Agree to differ I am trying to talk to people that are openminded not those blind to any Ally wrongdoings

george

George, you admit he may get sacked but criticise his lack of loyalty, how does that work?

What difference does Ally's worth have to do with it, he has a contract and getting sacked from Rangers is hardly going to help his career.

George - change the record FFS

If you want to question allys ability to manage that's fine but give the personal attacks a rest

Again you come away with the same old 1p share nonsense, you profess to know all about the grand plan to run the club into the ground and make away with the stadium, how come you don't know that ally actually put his own money into rangers way back before the IPO and when others wouldn't (McColl Murrays, Park, and all others), that was how he got shares in RIFC, same way as all the original investors through the share transfer agreement

If the board has not put changes to his salary into effect it is hardly his fault, is it?

JG

Ally will be sacked but only once we get back to the top league and struggle to make top 6 under him. Only then will fans who currently support him see what a poor manager he is.

None of us want to "accept" these things about an ex club legend, but the evidence is overwhelming, and the fact is that NONE of this was possible without McCoist. Its a bitter pill to swallow but facts don't lie, he has openly admitted some of it (eg: "I will sign anyone to keep my job") and been caught out on numerous occasions (eg: wages, shares etc) and it doesn't take a genius to put together that something is very wrong when he has backed every single one of them (3 in one week recently!) until they get caught, then its "I don't get involved in the boardroom".

@10 so if I understand your post, the old board lost 14m last year and it was all ally's fault?. can we blame him for global warming while were at it?.

JG

He can always phone sue barker, he won't work again as an apprentice football manager, what were you thinking of walter trailing this toe rag along with you

{Ed039's Note - I think the BBC are happy with Tuffers and Dawz to be honest)

@11 so you didn't understand my post, I didn't say everything was your precious Allys fault, I stated that he was implicit even giving examples, and also implied that without his drum banging they wouldn't have had £14million of our money to "lose".

The question people need to ask about Ally is how many chairman of other clubs would want him as their manager? I think it's a pretty safe bet that no one would be interested in him and once Rangers finally get rid of him then his managerial career will be over. Ally should stick to TV where he has talent

{Ed039's Note - Great post Stewie, this is something I was discussing with Ed001 the other night)

@14 could I disagree with your last sentence? Had you said limited talent I may have concurred but Phil Tufnell in my opinion is a far more entertaining turn than Ally and is actually funny.

Maybe Ally should be thinking along the lines of Question of Sport's. What Happened Next.

Cheekie Chappie - "Ehm well Sue ah think maybeez ah win every league match this season and we get promoted and ah get ma propir salary fur whit ahm wurth like. £800000 smkeroonies. then on a travels up the leagues we win everything in site and hammer they tims 5-0 ma first season back winning the SPFL by 10 points"

Sue "Ha ha ha great Ally, nice one, funny as f**k wee man. no let's see what actually happens" -

You actally do win the league and actually do get back to the top after bringing about a 2nd Admin with overspending on 'makeamanagerlookgoodsignings'. then when you have to face a decent level of team you get found out big style by the way, and Mr King your new boss, the latest one you vouched for sacks you and puts a quality football thinking manager in the Rangers job to the relief of countless thousand of Rangers fans.
"
AND WELCOME BACK TO QUESTION OF SPORT. Super Ally the pundits pundit. "


"Aw cheers sue. fancy a ride roon the back ae the studio likes?"


george

08 Dec 2013 11:06:59
Please Get this snake McCoist out our club at the first opportunity, this is his BS on why he is still massively overpaid

"I'm hopeful that's just down to the changeover because nothing has changed on my part. We feel it's the right thing to do, we want to do it and we WILL do it - hopefully sooner rather than later.

yeah yeah yeah, the only reason you mentioned taking a pay cut in the first place was your salary was going to Press

I agree McCoist must go, he is not a pawn in all of this, he is an essential part, without him how many STs or shares would have been sold? he has backed every single one of them in attempts to appease the fans, and yet when asked why he is still signing players while we lose £1million/month and make staff redundant he replies "I don't get involved in boardroom matters" McCoists lies and coercion have cost Rangers millions without his wages, bonuses and shares. I'm not sure snake is strong enough, more like a parasitic leach that burrows in and eats its victim alive from within.

SPIVS OUT,

There is nothing more irrational than fan expectation, this is the 21st century and employees are quite right to look after their own interests. Ally signed a contract to manage Rangers regardless of what division they play in. Neil Lennon is paid a high salary to manage a team with a similar huge wage differential, and yet no one is criticizing his loyalty.

Leave the man alone and focus on the future not the past, I am convinced you are a Celtic fan.

Smokey Bear,

Rangers are not losing a million per month, last year they lost 1 million a million. Without ST sales and the IPO, there would be no Rangers, hardly Ally's fault for supporting both.

Steerpike- don't doubt Ally should look after his own interests.
its the deception and lies he`s using to look after his own interests, that's getting a number of supporters heckles up.
for the last few months he's lead everyone to believe his wages have been vastly reduced more lies.
A lie that I believe he would have kept under wraps if a reporter had not asked him the wage cut question.
bluebeard"

Agree totally I have posted the exact same opinion, his kid on he doesn't really know about things financially will be his downfall.
Just how dumb does he think we are? That alone makes my blood boil I am well aware of his motives and financial interests from Whyte era till now, but many thousands of Ally supporters still believe every word he says which is so low on his behalf abusing that trust.

Think back bears to Whyte era the night before the final signing window before instant Admin/Liquidation, Ally was in with Whyte with a list of players he wanted, when Ally didn't get the players he wanted and in fact this led to a series of lies regarding sale of our best player Jelavic going for a cash deposit bargain rate, he stormed out in a huff not one hint of a warning to us fans considering the Jelavic thing was so blatant, Whyte only agreeing to sell to team offering largest instant upfront cash transfer (Everton were outbid by West Ham but lower cash up front).
Was Ally remotely concerned at Whyte's antics and blatant cash striping? Nah he was just in the huff because he didn't get the crazy money tp spend on players a policy he is still pursuing to this very day. We all know if Rangers could take on another £10m debt including selling Ibrox/Murray Park Ally would only be bothered about how much he was getting for player deals.

The longer this goes on the more transparent Ally's motives become to everyone.

Sick of his bs george

@3 you are right without st and ipo we would not be here, that's why everyone who bought their st and/or shares or match tickets or merchandising played their own part in keeping the rangers alive, those who did not and stood by encouraging others not too, did nothing to save the rangers

Incidentally those who bought st have had and will have the right to see games until the end of the season and those who bought shares still own their own part of the club,
don't know how others feel but I don't feel robbed, cheated or swindled personally
JG

N6 we will see if you are saying that if we go into addmin again then any shares will no even be worth the paper there printed on

08 Dec 2013 00:21:30
An Edinburgh based daily newspaper confirm Ally McCoist is still on £825,000 plus bonuses as Mr McCoist has been unable to persuade the board to half his salary.

B*******, he is just one of many persons at our club

If ally is concerned with his wage packet there's plenty of charities to be found, he was probably found out and has come out to save his own back as per usual, why take 3 months before admitting it? Rangers get paid weekly, that's 14 pay slips.

They get paid monthly so it's 3 payslips, and everyone and their dog can remember ally saying he would take the pay cut, so let's get onto who is to blame for non pay cut (Stockbridge) the same who was responsible for ally's wage being made public and also recording Malcolm Murray drunk, this guy seems to be trying hard to disrupt the club.