Rangers Banter Archive February 09 2012

09 Feb 2012 21:49:16
the whole thing with the tax case and white not spending money etc.. if we were splashing the cash.. then hmrc would demand every penny we owe!.. hmrc will go lighly on us if we realy are in a skint situation.. thats a fact! i mean come on! rangers are an institution! worshiped my 50000 loyals! .. and whyte is a sneeky wh shi*e, but a sneeky we shi*e for a reason! its all about kerping ur cards close to you in this situation!.. and when tax case is done and dusted.. expect that millionaire ellis whos on the board.. to start investing in us, u heard it here first!

Wishfull thinkin mate

What a load of garbage, whyte only wants admin, it is the only way he can make money, and that is his only interest. And if we lose the case hmrc will not go easy it does not matter if it's £49m or £10m we will be in admin

Whyte was brought in to take us through admin because Murray had made a terrible hash of it ,the money men wanted nothing to do with us because of Murray and his terrible running of the club we go into admin and now we need to hope it aint liquidation ask yourselves who wants anything to do with this utter mess,we have no shops anymore ,no catering, now season books hocked in the future there maybe even worse to come,and we need to hope Whyte has rangers at heart? do you know what G_D help us when there is no one with a spare dime G_D HELP US...........LES

You really think HMRC are gonna cut rangers slack? do you read proper newspapers? there is a recession kicking in and nobodys safe.whyte has been exposed for the cheat he is.decent people dont stiff hard working employees of wages,you really think HMRC believe a word this guy says? if he was not in charge maybie a payment deal might be agreed,with him i think they might ask for the lot. the only hope is rangers "win" and the payment is around 4-7m.that only leaves the original debt.

09 Feb 2012 21:11:14
Before i start i would like to stress that what im going to say is pure speculation and something that occurred to me not so long ago, So in no way is this a FACT as people often say on here. . . With the whole ticketus deal that has been done at our beloved club for future season ticket sales reported to have been worth 25million ( if it was Whyte that did this as there was some back and forward finger pointing with old regime ) but it does seem to sync up nicely with Whyte's original promise of a transfer warchest as did he not promise 5 million a year for 5 years ?? would this possibly be where he was getting these funds and not for what people believed it to be ( the purchase of the club ) . If this was the case then why no funds for actual transfers ?? maybe he is holding onto this in the event of a loss in the HMRC case? Maybe its not as cut an dry as he first stated it was in the media when declaring he was confident of winning the case . . .again just an observation and in no way fact . . potentially its all non-sense and just my brain putting 2 an 2 together and getting 5

09 Feb 2012 20:51:35
surprised no blue nose loyal have asked these questions....

1. whens naismith back or hows he doing ?

2.laughitme whens he back hows his injury.

3.is there anyone in the youth team ready to make the step up to 1st team ? even the bench ?

4. why sign a 35 year old when that money can be used to tie up aluko ? who since he came has looked good IMO

5.if the rumours are true that they owe 800k for marven & if they owe brighton money then why not use jelavic money to pay that off & sign up aluko before he leaves for free at the end of the season?

lenny

1. Next season - Progressing well
2. Soon
3. Clearly Not
4. We do not have any strikers
5. No-one apart from Craig Whyte knows the state of our finances so what is the point in speculating about shifting money around from here to pay off this and that
6. WHY DO YOU CARE?? YOU ARE A CELTIC FAN!! WHY DO YOU CARE??
C4MSH4FT

Ur talkin pis* but what do we owe Brighton for?

Why has it gone from 300k max compensation for celik to 800k ? That's quite a jump ! Paul RFC {Ed014's Note - I don't know where the 800k came from?I wouldn't pay much attention to that.

Firstly, there was an update on the website not so long ago saying Naismith is doing well and is on track to be back for the start of next season. Secondly, Lafferty will miss the Dunfermline game but could be back as soon as the next home game. Thirdly, this season we have seen Ross Perry make the step up, and whilst he is not under 21 Kerkar has also become involved, other young players are out on loan to gain first team experience. Rangers have the option to sign Aluko for a further two years so there is no rush for that. They owe about £250k for Celik but Whyte will no doubt dispute that, there is plenty time before the end of the season to tie up Aluko, why would Whyte do it now when he will want a wage rise, he will wait until after the tax case I expect.

GovanFR

I agree ed ... I think it's " Chinese whispers". Next week it will be 2mill ! PaulRFC

Surprised no one asks these questions

1) Why are you obsessed with Rangers
2) Are you not embarrassed that your team have failed in the last 3 years

I thought it was 800k ? My bad. Rangers owe money on laughatme if he plays one more game ? 'rumour'

Lenny

09 Feb 2012 20:08:58
Just watching Sienna-Napoli Italian cup game and game is sponsored by watch company they have advertising boards everywhere about it
TIM CUP ha ha, maybe Rangers should enter that and go for record of how many cups to get knocked out of in one season LOL Timalloy
PS heard this song to be played at next home game
WE'RE SIMPLY DEPRESSED!!

......worse than all the rest! lol

Miko x

Mikos reply sums up your joke tomalloy. why dont we enter n set a record for the amount of times we win it?? ......just like the spl!!!

j1985

Timmy's been away for a while its took him that long to figure out what 5hite to come u with next so boring

Wullie

09 Feb 2012 18:17:21
Did you hear on snyde craigh whyte can't phone cousins agent as he's no credit rangers are blanking the phone what a joke yous lot are Henke7

And the operator said twenty cents more for the next 3 minutes .... ha ha Timalloy

Cousins will sign for Birmingham City next monday

Put it this way one person offers you 5k a week the other offer 20k ? really what would you do ?

bit of a no brainer

lenny

Whose Cousins? your cousins? Keep
That to youself

Thought it's Daniel Cousin Rangers are after?

.....and you believe Mr McKay on the £20k a week do you Lenny?!? He wiz pretty slow the first time round but I don't think you'd see him for dust somehow.

09 Feb 2012 17:29:55
hi people, i am sick of all the lies
and the rubbish i read on hear. firstly
this tax case, no one knows if we
going to loose it or win it unless u
work for the court, am nearly 100%
sure that none of use do and even
if use did you would know the
punishment if use started to blab.
secondly what has CW done wrong
so far, sold a player. i like every one
else hopes that he is not going to kill
the club i love, but we need to wait
to see his actions after the case
before we judge him. the most important
thing just now is getting behind the
team and start supporting them 100% as
that has always been our strong
point. if the players know we 100%
behind them they will start to preform.
even the not so good players will get
a lift and start to put a shift in. time
to turn ibrox in to a cauldron it once
was. we are the people and always
will be.

A cauldron eh? well it will have to be used for something when hector shuts it............green jhedi

No need to shut celtic park it has a tendancy to fall down itself lol

09 Feb 2012 16:19:14
OMG the tims think foster is better than mcshagger now, couldn't tie shoe laces, this is the same foster they couldn't wait to leave after the game in France?

Check the clean sheet stats for this season m8

Forster is as described by the Spanish media; as graceful as an elephant.

Ok I've just checked them, Forster has the same as McGregor, and your point is? I'm sure even De Gea has kept some clean sheets.

GovanFR

Instead of stats let's check wonder saves... wonder which keeper wins that contest? Paul RFC

Its a no brainer mcgreggor is the better keeper ones 29 & ones 23 ones been here for a season & a half the other has spend most if not all his career in the spl.

its like compairing someone whos 23 to someone whos 29 ?

lenny

Forster - wonder save last night - prevented a goal. Wonder penalty save against Hearts. Wonder save against Rangers that prevented a goal in December. In all three cases Celtic got maximum points. Whats McGregor done this season that was special? Need I say more!

What was the wonder save against rangers in December?

GovanFR

The save that NO VIDEO OR STILL PHOTO could prove was over the line.........green jhedi

Rankers squad has been up for sale for last few years and no club has bid for McGregor......that tells me no-one rates him, plus he's 29!

Forster is still only 23 with the prospect of playing in EPL next season.....or he could stay with the team that IS going to win the league and play in Europe next season!

DazzaBhoy

There is no question, no matter what team
You support how blinkered you are, McGregor is a better keeper than Foster

Have to agree with the Rankers this time McShagger has left more of a mark(mainly on others players when he goes over the ball yet again)

T-Bear {Ed014's Note - I am sick fed up of reading your nasty digs at people regarding jobs and their family etc.Use your ban to try and grow up.

Ok so as I suspected, the 'save' against Rangers wasn't a save considering the ball crossed the line.

29 is not old for a goalkeeper, look at Friedal. The fact Forster is what 3rd choice at Newcastle says it all really.

GovanFR

09 Feb 2012 15:46:30
to all these septic so called supporters who seem to spend their whole day on our site,,,this is just about as low as we will get and you are still only 4 points ahead of us,make no mistake we WILL be back even stronger so make the most of your wee period of time on top because it wont last as you always bottle it.

It seems like you bottled leaving a name.....green jhedi

And thats your real name i suppose

Its a name to have some banter and stimulating debate.i suppose you "stimulate" yourself all day?............well you know it!

09 Feb 2012 13:54:27
I see all these player rumours that are getting posted here guys. How do intend to pay these boys? Ginger bottles?
Anyway, hearing stories about tomorrow.......might be some news Ibrox way.......and its no a new signing.

Joeshmo1888

You heard the same rumour tax case dropped ya beauty

Wishfull thinking bud. Started making my jelly today as it might take a while to set.

Joeshmo1888

Aye it's been 3 years in the making!

The Pilot!

Good man i will bring the ice cream.fab1

@fab 1;jelly n ice cream? is there a party?.......green jhedi

Living in Canada, whats the jelly n ice cream joke.

Das Shadow

09 Feb 2012 13:31:09
at the end of the day we were mismanaged for years and driven into a black hole. i think right now we should forget 4 in a row and worry about surviving. we don't know whats going to happen with the tax case or if there is any plans to deal with it should we lose that don't mean liquidating the club. lets get behind the team and if it all goes wrong and we are out of business lets at least do it with our heads held high.

DJ WATP

09 Feb 2012 10:38:36
Don't understand the negativity about us going for Cousin. He was good for us before.

We are still not that far off being not a bad side with everyone fit-

McGregor

Whittaker
Goian
Boca
Papac

Aluko
Davis
Edu(Ness)
Celik

Cousin
Lafferty

Maybie this is the reason young players dont extend their contracts? what message does it send to the boy hemmings? bendikson was another good player who just wanted to play...green jhedi

McCoist will prob go 4-5-1/ 4-3-3

McGregor

Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Papac/Wallace

Aluko Davies Edu Celik Wylde

Lafferty


OR

Mcgregor

Whittaker Goian Bocanegra Papac

Davies Edu Bartley

Aluko Lafferty Celik

He is 35 years old now....he hasnt had a club for months and was a liability the last time he was at Ibrox...also slagged you off when he left but was allegedly misquoted.

He scored 11 times for rangers in about 30 games....he has scored 14 goals since he left Ibrox...oh please sign him! With that strike rate you can expect about 2 or 3 goals out of him before the end of the season.

A 35 yr old Judas playing for a pub team in the Gabon- why wouldn't he be welcomed back with open arms?!?

As long he puts you lot to the sword who cares

09 Feb 2012 10:07:20
Good Morning ED001/ED014? I have my serious head on to ask these questions. Every week, sometimes every DAY a new story comes out questioning either Mr Whytes integrity, his past business dealings, his use of loans Ticketus, Close Brothers (ones we know of) yet still most Rangers fans refuse to believe what they are being told. But these stories are coming from so many different avenues that they surely ALL cannot be lies.
Speaking as a Celtic fan, I know if this character was in charge of my club, our fans would by now be raising serious questions about him, we would be outside Parkhead, Lennoxtown, even his "castle" up north, until we got the TRUTH, yet all Rangers fans do is either say it is all a big Tim conspiracy or cling to the hope that some thing will happen to save them.
This "we arra people" mindset, goes along the lines of "Rangers are too big to close" "The SFA/SPL will change the rules" "SKY TV will save us" or best one "The Government will step in" yes the self same Govenment that allegedely you owe MILLIONS to!
Surely it is time to look WITHIN your own club and point the fingers there. Then Rangers fans protest and get these people away from any decision making of your club. Timalloy

You are joking with your comment about the Celtic fans. The Kelly/White dynasty ruled Celtic for years and certainly during the 70s/80s they operated the “estimated” attendances by some 10,000 to 20,000 short of what was there. It is well documented and that is from Celtic websites and books.
Your quick to react fans that you brag about suffered 6 years of Rangers winning the League and in 1990 formed Save our Celts and then Celts for Change took over with Dempsey and McCann moving in in 1994. So your fan base action was really only successful once you got the money on board and after a 4 year period of fan action.
So that was 6 yrs of Rangers dominating the league, at least 20yrs of the Board pocketing your money/no significant investment and a 4 year fan based movement to get your board out. Rangers still won the league after your new board was in. You won it in 97/98 and 6 times since with Rangers 7 times.
“ I know if this character was in charge of my club, our fans would by now be raising serious questions about him, we would be outside Parkhead, Lennoxtown, even his "castle" up north, until we got the TRUTH, yet all Rangers fans do is either say it is all a big Tim conspiracy or cling to the hope that some thing will happen to save them”
Taking account of what I have written explain please.
Just to remind you, you had at least 20 yrs of a dodgy board because you were blinded by your success in the 60s and early 70s and then mixed success until 6 years of your rivals dominance before you decide to take action which lasts 4 yrs before you get a result. Followed by another 4 years before you see the fruits of your labour.
I have been on this site regularly, not as much as you right enough, but I have yet to see the situation at Ibrox being classed as a “Tim” conspiracy can you explain this? Or is this just wishful thinking because you thrive on conspiracy?

Celtic fans were held back by one thing..shares.they were not traded publicly and that gave the old board enormous power and the reason they were able to cling on to power for so long.we also had the same problem you now have..fan apathy.the "we'll be ok" brigade take a long time to change......green jhedi

Green Jhedi, fair comment. Yes shares are a major issue with Whyte being the major shareholder.
I don't like posting about Celtic's history but when someone says they are posting seriously and then post nonsense as part of the post it has to be replied to. A dug with a bone!
Your club's board issue is your history, mine is current but other dark seekers constantly refer to it in comparison.
Whether fans are waiting for someone to take the lead I don't know. Time will tell. Some things in life just have to happen.
Iam Legend

Green Jhedi, thanks that was points I was going to make about the shares, those people held them thus hed the power, but our fans eventually found a way to protest and get rid of these men, unknown poster (again put a name) good points raised but how can anyone engage with anonymous posts, all you Rangers fans still think you are too big to come crashing down, well pal you ain't and with this character in charge you are well on the way to oblivion Timalloy

@Iam Legend;not a problem mate. plenty real rangers fans like youself to post with. said before rangers will not vanish,i doubt very much if even liquidation will happen.admin seems to be the only game in town for whyte judging by his past buisness record. if thats the outcome then a points reduction(10-15) would hardly kill you off.i feel he might be trying to end the season before admin as im sure rangers could make up the points deduction over one season....green jhedi

@GJ - I think there will be some form of 'hit(s)' that RFC has to take. Obviously the scale of the hit(s) is the deciding factor methinks.
Cheers anyway. Got to take the dug oot before it gets dark!
Iam Legend

09 Feb 2012 04:05:09
Anyone else heard that Walter will take Spurs through to the end of the season if HR moves to England.

Hahah aye right. this will be the same walter thats had all these job offers.

09 Feb 2012 02:22:52
ALLY MCCOIST ECHOES MARVIN WORDS TELLING STARS TO HAVE BELIEF! well Ally I have no belief in you whats so ever, you are a disgrace as a rangers manager, we have been put out 4 cups by small clubs who at least play football, throw away a 15 point lead unheard off, how many youth players have you giving a chance too, you dont encourage football at all, you are far to loyal to Walters men, and ignore your own dreadful signings, Do the Honorable thing and resign with some dignity for the benefit of the club, you are only delaying the inevitable by staying, Billy Davies along with Richard Gough will sort out your mess.

09 Feb 2012 01:07:32
When Celtic need a sub they turn to Internationals like Stokes , Majstorovic , Commons and Brozek ....
When Rangers need a sub they turn to Ticketus ! lmao. Drewzybhoy .