Rangers Banter Archive June 09 2013

 

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09 Jun 2013 21:16:25
Does every player we sign or are linked with have to be an established player? Is our scouting system/management teams knowledge of the game so poor that we need to use financial clout to sign well known players. I will just use Nicky Law going to Motherwell as an example. Unheard of and turned out to be a bit of a gem for them. I can't imagine they signed him up on a fortune and look how he turned out! Thoughts bears?

Renfrew Loyal

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Spot on mate hate to use them as an example but Celtics Scouting system is up there with the best in Britain this was our chance to take a leaf out that book & follow suit bringing in youn talent & selling them on is the 1st rule of survival in this Scottish game now the money to be made is astounding can't believe we've not been scouting under 18s from the day that embargo was placed.

Larky Bear

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Agree entirely Larky. Much as I think the recent signings have been very good it's sad to see more youngsters not being given a chance.

Who is doing the scouting at the moment btw?

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OP here

I know what your saying you don't want to mention them, but you've made a very valid point. I feel this has been a huge opportunity missed. I do believe we have made decent signings but I am just wondering how much of a ransom is being offered in exchange for the drop to SFL2.

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Ally has no technical ability to bring the kids through, he's basically just morphing into Walter, quick fix comes to mind no thought for the future.

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09 Jun 2013 20:38:42
Sandaza is confident hell get 2 million compensation from us, could we afford that plus all the court expenses? I fear this coud be a potential 1 nail in the coffin once again. BB1872

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Where is it published he reckons he will get 2million. The guys been recorded trying to secretly engineer a move away and openly discussed his contracf with a third party. Only an person or the seluded would even consider his actions a breach of contract. Hope rangers sue him the way chelsea did with mutu.

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Sandaza deserves every penny, the guy done nothing wrong, do you really think if he scored 30 goals last season rangers would've got rid of him? Gazza done a lot worse things at ibrox but got away with it, i. e. turning up drunk for a league cup final.

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OP - And your source is?

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Sandazza had contract for £2m in total, so if this ended early then he could be due some of this at least.

If he can't get employment elsewhere rangers could be liable for all of it.

Hence you very careful when firing someone, Green was too quick and may have left huge bill.

Most likely they will sellet for £200k - and no legal fees and tribunal costs.

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@1 if contract specifically says third party that's fine - if it says agent. then a cab driver is not an agent.

could have been settled ages ago with quick cheap payoff. now its going to tribunal and rfc libale for all costs. could be very expensive. {Ed001's Note - load of nonsense, you clearly have no idea what a confidential contract means! No third party is allowed to access information contained within a confidential contract without PRIOR permission of all parties concerned. Irrelevant whether it is an agent, a taxi driver or his mother. The only question is whether the action taken, in dissolving the contract, is too harsh or not. That is a personal thing, but to me his actions were clearly a breach of contract and Rangers are well within their rights. If it had happened to my club, Liverpool, I would want the player sacked and gone immediately.}

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Did gazza no play an absolute blinder that day tho?

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We can all spin the outcome whatever way we want but I personally don't think he'll walkaway without a pay off. More money out the £10m warchest!

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@6 your missing the point, its double standards by sir Walter and co.

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Eds note to no5 very well put ed that would have been my reply to post but you beat me to it well done ed tmwnn

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#8 you are missing the point. Just because someone else hasn't been punished for their indiscretions does not gove Sandaza the tight to delibrately breach his contract and try to engineer a move away in secret.

As said by #1 only a person or the deluded would fail to grasp that he breached his t&c. he gave rangers the ammunition they needed to sack him and they rightly done it

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N7 as you saythats you opinion and opinions are like arsholes everybody has got one in my opinion he will get nowt he broke the rules he spoke out of school its definetly not allowed it said so on his contract end of

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09 Jun 2013 19:28:06
Anyone got the score
for ladies old firm game
today? Cheers
billy h

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09 Jun 2013 22:38:19
3-1 To gers.

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Cheers mate
billy h

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09 Jun 2013 07:26:15
Zaliukas being told by csaba llaslo to shun Gers to preserve his top tier career. I say. 2 years till Europe, young son. Get him in Ally, I have total faith in the greatest ever Ranger who stood up when none would. Head down and do what it takes. She'll be an ugly bird to look at till we can make proper moves in January. WATP

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2 years till Europe it's impossible because we're not eligible mate and realistically were looking at 5 years.

Larky Bear

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Three years till Europe. The deadline for accounts was missed.

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2 years until Europe? Nope: it'll be season 2017/18 before Europe, pending qualification, of course.

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2years till Europ////. ?are you that stupid?. win div 2. then win div 1. then enter the spl. there's 3years&every year er in europaudited accounts fail to be deliverd, so will probably be about 5years before a ball is kicked in anger. sm

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3 years minimum - audited accounts only.

The there could be further banishment period on top of that - if still the old rangers which did not pay all its debt - if new rangers (without the history) then no coefficient assistance and bottom rankings.

damned if we old, damned if we new.

Also Green calls Platini useless and also said Gers could buy exemption from further penalties use corrupt route (on tape!) to whyte, so can't see UEFA allows this to pass.

Note: also first time Gers do qualify for europe other clubs can sue in because just like ranger did. to prevent them going to europe. without additional penalties.

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09 Jun 2013 18:33:25
As we all have seen rules can and are changed, so let's get on with next season what we have and worry about Europe later, whenever that may be. WATP

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Yup am gets paid 1mill or so and does his job and stays, it's not like he can get another job somewhere else for he is a great manager and everyone wants him right? Or is it cause it's the only job he can get and never be wrong for the fans are blind to him

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Accounts not due till 30th of july hopefully 2 more seasons till eligible for european football

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Accounts not due for AIM until 30th July. Deadline for Uefa was 31st May. Missed.

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It will 3 years at least before Europe. Still got to compete a season in SPL to qualify. Unless your hoping for a scottish cup win within 3 years which is not impossible but that's when the audited accounts will be needed. Think Derry city just got a knock back for entering the Europa league so doubt they will bend the rules to suit rangers that's just wishful thinking.

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#8 & #9 I've heard they're due on the last day of June but I'm not 100% on this and there's a lot of conflicting opinions obviously. What might be good is if the RST, say, could ask for clarification on the matter or better still that Walter came out and told us for certain.

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All of the above do yourselves a favour, read uefa licence requirements, 3year accounts not a requirement. Article 47
One year plus comparative figures for previous year

JG

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