Rangers Banter Archive June 09 2015

09 Jun 2015 22:08:29
Warburton an weir new management team.
This rumour comes from the top
Can't say more than that

09 Jun 2015 22:31:21
Next manager is McCall. Why is he waiting till next week. Maybe till McCall is back from his duties with scotLand. So he can be at press conference.

10 Jun 2015 01:24:23
I agree Warburton and Weir to be announced this week to be the new management team it Fulham

10 Jun 2015 07:24:39
Very worrying that Fulham are now interested have a sneaking suspicion old martybhoy may be right king not declaring new manager as the whole thing is smoke and mirrors think the job may have been mccall all along the board just wanted him to think they were considering others I sincerely hope I'm wrong

10 Jun 2015 07:35:36
Fulham have a manager who recently signed an extension, can't see that happening. Especially if the rat Jackson reported it.

10 Jun 2015 10:02:51
Marty the board said at the weekend they intend to announce the new manager by Friday

10 Jun 2015 10:52:05
DK said he couldn't see it happening this week and it would probably be next week

10 Jun 2015 12:56:14
I think you'll find it was to be Friday but now it's been put back to next week. Which equals mccall.

10 Jun 2015 13:32:52
Murray says Friday king says maybe next week! See there's still nobody down govan way with even half a clue! 😆😆😆 I'm just glad my beloved club is so well run from top to bottom! It's a great time to be a tim honestly!

09 Jun 2015 21:51:52
I think dave king is being very clever by not pandering to ashley and repaying the £5 million loan right now as it gives us a bit leeway in negotiations over an amendment of the retail contracts. King says meet us half way with the contracts so the club can thrive and you will get your money and if not you can wait! At the end of the day ashley had his men draw down the loan thinking he had the upper hand in that regard and it's backfired to a certain extent

10 Jun 2015 00:50:13
I'll ask again, maybe at some point someone will actually answer this. What "leeway", "negotiation tool", "bartering ploy" or whatever terminology you want to dress it up in, is a £5m debt to a man whose company sells £6m of merchandise every day of the year? Will one of you actually step up to the plate and answer this rather screamingly obvious flaw in your otherwise magnificent financial understandings? That whole last sentence was sarcasm, on the off chance any of your understandings of that is on a par with your Warren Buffet impersonations.

10 Jun 2015 00:23:12
The guys a billionaire and you think dk can hold him to ransom with 5 million pounds , he is just asking for it back to be a pain in the arse and will happily rake in the money from merchandising till it's due .

10 Jun 2015 01:26:25
Gaz 1
I think M Asley holds the winning hand , and he knows it . He won't be bluffed .

10 Jun 2015 03:43:12
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit my dim friend.

When has anyone said that we have the upper hand or bartering advantage on the Ashley situation? I think you will find that many of us understand that Ashley has us by the short n curly's over the debt. Carry on reading your tabloids and drinking your Buckie mate.
Dumb questions, get dumb answers.

10 Jun 2015 07:36:40
Ashley still has naming rights and no doubt 100 other things even if we pay it back.

10 Jun 2015 07:56:08
Haha Nippon, jeez if I'm replying to an OP on said subject (for the third time) then surely all of you aren't getting the message and all of you aren't reading from the same hymn sheet. Did you read the OP? "Gives us a bit of leeway" or did you just charge in half-cocked without any idea of context, as per usual I would imagine. A reactionary ill-informed Ger, trust me you are not a dying breed.

Dim? I can safely say I've forgot more about the financial fiasco that is Rangers over the past three years than most of you ever knew but sure if inaccurate insults get you through keep plying away. And given that you clearly know less than zero about me you can keep friend and mate to folk you do know. You are a walking cliche Nippon.

10 Jun 2015 08:36:42
Hahaha Seem to have hit a nerve their Gaz?
Maybe fetch your sanitation pad?
I was recovering from a heavy night in Bangkok and by mistake I typed 'when has anyone' instead of 'how many have' in my post. I put my hands up for that boo boo, my bad.
Purely out of curiosity , do you and Marty get enjoyment out of our predicament? If that's the kind of sad little people you are I will just keep my 'friends' and 'mates' to folk I know.

10 Jun 2015 09:45:06
Nippon you couldn't hit a nerve on me with a guided missile and a state of the art GPS system. Oh sanitation pad, wow bringing out the big gun insults now eh? Oscar Wilde would be in awe of your acerbic tongue. And you have the cheek to mention me, buckie and tabloids in the one sentence. You are a parody intellectual who can't debate and would rather insult than engage your brain.

I will answer your question in all sincerity however. It's nothing to do with enjoyment it is the inability to grasp the realism time after time after time. Of course there will at some point be light at the end of the tunnel and I don't blame any of you for wanting to grasp that but unnecessarily painting a picture a certain way just because you want it to be so only leads to further disappointment no? And this nonsense spin of £5m grabbing Ashley's attention etc is just garbage when you look at the vast sums the guy deals in. I have said in here many times realism and pragmatism will see you better off here, it can't see you any worse given some of the crap you have had to endure. But it is self-inflicted misery, disappointment in many cases, a club weaned on success desperate to celebrate any old point scoring victory, however hollow, however inaccurate.

Days into the demotion I recall someone saying "Well we will be the first team to win all 4 Scottish divisions." A totally arrogant presumption with not an ounce of research behind it. Dumbarton did it some time ago. Days into "the journey" well that's the largest ever attendance in the world for a division 4 game, turns out some Brazilian team had higher (Recife is springing to mind) and so it continues to this day, just a Rangers tinted view on life with only one winner, reality is not like that currently, the past three years sure as hell haven't been like that. It is time for the fanciful dreaming to end and some pragmatic realism as to where Rangers actually are to be embraced. It will stand you in better stead longer term I promise you.

10 Jun 2015 10:28:28
Nipponbear can't answer for the other two but yes I get great enjoyment from the predicament your club finds itself in and if the boot was on the other foot so would you , to say anything else would make you a liar . Do you think man u , barca or inter fans would not be enjoying it as much if man city , real or ac Milan were in your position or vice versa? But if it helps my old mother used to tell me back in the nineties when you were on top nothing lasts for ever and that it all goes in cycles when it comes to football no matter how strong or week one team looks and she was spot on , so I reckon we have only got 10-15 years left on top 😅

10 Jun 2015 10:54:35
Clearly having his £5 million that he wants back is better than having nothing that he wants? Regardless of what ever else he has over rangers.

10 Jun 2015 11:10:38
Great Fab!
Thankfully I look on life a little different to yourself. I could not give two hoots what happens to any other team. I support Rangers and love to see them do well. I do miss the old firm games , of course, but on the grand scheme of things it is only a game! There are other things to challenge us in this life ( for Marty to tie his shoes perhaps? Don't have a flaky Marty it's just a joke) and I can think of many a thing I would do rather than making pointless echoes on different fans page. Why would I slag of my celtic following friends?. Good luck to all three of you!

10 Jun 2015 11:37:20
Sorry Chris forgot to get back to you. I agree with you, regards Ashley, he needed Rangers alive to sell shirts, so a £5m loan means nothing to him. It got him some more power and some folk in the door. Then he got lobbed out, he then decides to use his £5m to call the bluff of the three bears and King and test their mettle, see if they did have £5m up front, maybe he heard whispers of otherwise, who knows. But he's a businessman and needless to say he knew he had to offer some enticement to get this passed at the EGM, so he offered other sweeteners which in the cold light of day are actually good for the club however King wishes to dress the whole thing up. Similarly he has valid questions regards the Nomad and stock exchange which King has all but ignored in his counter proposition. But it will take someone better than King to outwit Ashley here I reckon, the guy will have the best lawyers etc money can buy on tap.

10 Jun 2015 13:17:30
Gaz in regards to your second last post on this thread.
Firstly how ironic to drop to my level and label me a 'parody intellectual who can't debate and would rather insult than engage your brain. ' nice one!
Then you drivel on with someone's 'arrogant presumption' over being the only team to win all the Scottish leagues, dismissing Dumbarton. One person said this to you and you think this is the collective opinion for all gers supporters? Very narrow minded of you .
Similarly you regurgitate Recifes 'world record' 'springing to mind' with respect to their own attendance achievements in the 4 th tier. Good for them but who cares? It was a tabloid title Gaz.

10 Jun 2015 15:57:12
So that is your level then Nippon, thank you very much for admitting it, dashed decent of you. :)

10 Jun 2015 16:45:37
Gaz,

Could you try to be a little more pompous in your posts. Mind the fall, it will hurt you.

10 Jun 2015 16:48:26
Just going according to you, since you know it all;)
Always looking for the last word.

10 Jun 2015 18:41:44
Clearly there is a very interesting battle. In one corner you have a very clever rich hard nosed business man . In the other corner you have a crafty smart business man well used to ducking and diving .
Who will come out best in the long run?

10 Jun 2015 21:10:36
Lol Cuillin, still trying to shake the buckie and tabloids slur. :)

09 Jun 2015 20:06:52
Lorenzo Amoruso is moving back to Glasgow. No news yet if it's Rangers related. Legend would be awesome in a coaching role.

09 Jun 2015 22:39:12
Now that is funny

09 Jun 2015 09:24:04
you can not be bit worried with kings statement from him So far, since we came in, we have demonstrated that we have done everything we said we were going to do.
“The club needed money – we put the money in. That’s an absolute fact.“We’ve done our bit so I’m asking the fans to think back to three seasons ago when, for their first home game in the Third Division, Rangers had the biggest attendance in the UK.

what promises have the kept to so far if it wasn't for the fans he wouldn't be there today he says he has demonstrated everything he says he was gona do so far that is a load of rubbish he has only put in a small fraction compared to supporters still no manager no directer football changed there mind on that one no listing no scouting infrastructure no repairs no new players and no proper investment from them yet all been promises and no action

he then says for the manager to have a playing budget of 12 million pound the fans will need buy 45.000 season tickets there is no problem with that cause the fans will support the team but will they reach that target we will see the problem with that statement is where is the promised investment from king and his investors they are asking fans to pay once again without any real investment from them he does say more cash will come from the boardroom if needed but that is questionable if he truly wants sell that amount of season tickets again then he and his investors should match the investment from the fans pound for pound and invest in the team scouts coaches and repair to stadium ect a joint venture between king and the fans I see that more beneficial to our club

he seems to think they have done there bit and tops it off with saying We’ve done our bit so I am now asking they fans to do there practically he puts it in a longer statement that that and goes on bout three years ago he doesn't need ask the fans they will back him it should be us asking him to back the team and he has yet to prove that they have any sustainable amounts of money to take us forward that is needed

09 Jun 2015 10:25:53
The press really do glorify Mr king. Why. They have totally worded his statement differently making him sound like some kind of saviour. They have the chance to ask a number of questions but choose not to. Why was he not asked about his investmen. He is relying on season ticket money just like previous regimes. It All smells a bit iffy. A rise in season ticket money. How can they justify that. He looks like a rabbit in the headlights. Take it he's away back to south Africa away from it all. Usual. Make a statement then bugger off.

09 Jun 2015 14:20:33
Name the football club in Scotland that does not rely on season ticket money.

09 Jun 2015 14:29:18
Some strange stuff from DK. Telling football agents and the rest of the world that we will need to overspend. Good luck to the next manager trying to sign players at a bargain price with that kind of soundbite.

Also letting any potential investors know he wasn't putting in money as an 'investment', in other words investors will likely lose their dosh. Sheer stupidity saying that, not to mention investors being put off by him telling the world that he isn't going to pay a debt any time soon. Not the best way to get folk to hand over their cash to Rangers with him in command, is it?

Then there's his talk about things being worse than he imagined under the bonnet but hey ho, we're still in the best shape since he has been a member of the board. How so?

Likewise, we can't attract some managers because we're still in the championship but that also seems to be a good thing as it gives us more time to prepare for the top flight?

Contradictions. Contradictions.

09 Jun 2015 15:54:11
Think you need to see how the close season pans out before making judgements. People are to eager to jump in and make sweeping statements. Martybhoy you are a classic example of this although strangely enough it's always negative. If it is Warburton to get the job it's a positive move and hopefully a step in the right direction

09 Jun 2015 16:38:48
Some need to simmer down over King. We are weeks in to his regime. Coming in and picking up the mess left by the previous incubants who made a disaster of running our club. So many quick to critise a man who has previously put £20M in to our football club, lost it and is back for me. Some need to think back would you rather give King a chance or let Easdale and Ashley back in the door. Stop being spoilt brats, back the board back your club.

09 Jun 2015 16:51:32
Why is he saying you are debt free. Strange thing to say. The press cower away from asking decent questions. Just like to glam it all up. Season ticket prices are up and he hits out with this statement. Am I the only one on here seeing what he is actually doing and meaning. he's basically doing the same as the rest of them. he's lost the plot already going back on things he is saying. Mr Ashley will soon put little dave in his place on Friday.

09 Jun 2015 17:49:22
nothingbutthestruth the old board are history Murray ect have been in for a few months now what have they been doing Ashley will not give up his contracts so we will just need live with it pointless negotiating with him I personally did not trust whyte green ect so never attend games as I was not stupid and realised what had been happening from the day Murray sold the club yeah the previous board did make complete mess and it will take time to fix but when the new chairman comes in and makes press statements and promises then backs out of them can you blame people for being wary about him do not think you need to be calling fellow supporters spoiled brats and telling them to simmer down we are far from that just concerned about the team I will be buying mine and my family's season tickets this year but why say the fans buying season ticket books will impact on the managers budget that is a strange one to me considering he previously said he would invest more than 20 million I thought this would have meant on the playing squad and other things like it or not the board will be scrutinised by people they will have time because there are rangers men but they need come good on a lot of these promises to get the fans back that where not going to games after we won the egm

why does he and his investors not match the fans pound for pound and we invest it in all parts of our club this would then bring back the missing fans and get the place buzzing again this would show fans he means business this seems like a very good idea in my opinion

09 Jun 2015 18:04:19
Good post craigs.

09 Jun 2015 21:01:36
martybhoy king is here more often than your leader in ireland I also heard coop bank is looking for here money back and there has been some developments in the row about the cheap property row with glasgow city u seem to have some problems urselves

09 Jun 2015 21:39:36
what exactly is Ashley going to do to King on Friday Martybhoy? As you seem to know everything please share it with the rest of us

09 Jun 2015 21:43:38
I for one can see the logic in everyone's posts martybhoy may be o here to wind up but you have to hand it to him there is sense in what he is saying it's a fine line for us fans and the contradictory statements don't help but his vision seems clear enough I for one will back the new regime and come what may will reserve my judgement until we are ready to kick a ball

09 Jun 2015 22:04:23
I wonder has King got any money or assets that he can quickly convert into cash , after paying so much cash to the South African tax authorities . I don't doubt that he isn't a very rich man , but I doubt if he can lay his hands on much money to invest in a football club which will, be a long time , if ever , before he can make a profit .

10 Jun 2015 21:33:31
nothingbuthestruth we have never agreed a lot in yhe past and I am really not a dave king man but right now he and j gilligan and co must be given all the support possible at this minute in time they must be given a chance people can say this that and the other about king murray douglas park and the other chap but they should think on john gilligan would not be anypart of anything that was detrimental to rangers he is as straight as a dye

08 Jun 2015 22:13:18
well to say I am disappointed with David kings
vision so far is a understatement
pleading with the fans to buy season tickets I do not think he needs to do this the fans will buy the season tickets once he starts coming good on some of his promises if we buy season tickets and sell out he should along with investors match the fans pound for pound murray said we where meant to get manager this week now king says next week do they not speak to each other there is no figures from king and sounds to me there is no solid plan in place and will not be for a while very disappointed

09 Jun 2015 05:58:08
Hope you had a good nights sleep but doubt it with all the fretting your doing craigs