Rangers Banter Archive March 09 2013

 

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09 Mar 2013 22:44:11
Lets start on the pitch

Argryiou is the worst footballer iv ever seen, he makes big Konterman look like Pele, His three colleagues at the back (i was going to say in defense but that would be an untruth) are utterly useless - our midfield look unfit, struggle to control and pass the ball and when all else fails we bring on Sandaza who really takes the biscuit - this man could not hit a coo on the erse wi a banjo.

Now let's move onto the bench

Ally? sorry pal - you don't have it - great player but u can't manage, Please do walking away. Durant? no thanks, MacDowell - either has no say or no idea, The scouts seem to watch edited clips of players best moments on Youtube as the list of guys who they sign who are rubbish is very long indeed - remember guys like Matt Mckay and Stella - how bad they must have been if they couldn't get in before that drivvel.

Now the board

Charles - we know your the aviour or whatever but please don't talk to the media anymore

Walter - Surely you can do something about the aforementioned above

On a brighter note the chicken curry pie was quite good

As you can probably tell I was at the Annan game - If we had nicked a draw at the end it would have been robbery - Annan played well and deserved to win, arguably more comfortably. That is the worst I have ever seen and in the context of some of this seasons performances that is saying something. I am losing faith very quickly

A very disgruntled Ayrbear

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I agree with all your points apart from the walter bit. who do you think super sally learned his trade from, learning how not to play players in their correct positions. Yip you have guessed it, uncle walter!

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09 Mar 2013 23:37:45
I can take your point but the differnce was walter had some great success - albeit with money to spend. did well with Scotland too, he could galvanise a team. But I know what your saying

I wasnt kidding by the way - the curry pie was good! lol

Ayr bear

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Sir Walt was found out at Everton, he was the small fish in the big pond down South. Fergie took pity and gave him a job for 6months, successful manager with money. {The Ed039's Note - Most managers nowadays are only successful with a bit of cash to spend, its the nature of the beast. More money = better players = success)

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Think Faure is worse than Argryiou but it's close also Cribari woeful too. How did these guys pass a trial?

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Great points about, on the pitch, on the bench and in the boardroom but what about in the stands? We have been raving about world record attendances and even though 35k is amazing at our level where did the other 10,000 go? Are they scared of being banned by Mr Green. This team needs as much support as possible. I am beginning to fear what happens next year when Mr Green raises the prices?

Gersman Man Fife

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@5 I don't think he can raise the prices for next season. We will have to start the season with the same players as this season and as Green has already said it's the worst side in the clubs history. You can't then up the prices that would be suicide

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@3 my point being when every other manager had the same amount of money or more Sir Walt was found wanting. {The Ed039's Note - Valid point, all I am saying is that most of the times is when teams strengthen and invest they are more likely to win their respective leagues. All over Europe (more often than not) it seems to happen)

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Think we both got our points in Ed, thanks for taking the time.

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As a matter of interest, what makes you think WS was a failure at Everton? not according to the Everton fans he wasnt, he saved them from relegation while having to lose the entire foirst team squad to save money, Bit of unfair reasoning there I think, And of coursrse Sir Alex gave him a job out of pity didn't he? and yet every player who played under walter say he is the best ever, couldn't make it up,

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@9 if Sir Cardigan was that good at Everton then why was he moved on?

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@7 I agree it would be crazy to dot his but it was in the share prospectus. it will happen and this is my worry. fans will walk away, same players playing same teams again. not the most exciting prospect in the world!

Gersman Fife

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09 Mar 2013 22:43:44
Nicky Clark from Queen of the South. We could also do with their manager!

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09 Mar 2013 22:01:03
Ally, WILL WRAP it the next few days, and altough not so sure I believe McCall will step in. However that will not change a lot in Scottish football, have posted regularily that without the competition between the old firms it is heading for the abyss, very soom comparable to Welsh and Irish leagues, think about it, no cash, no competition in any league, who of any standard is going to come to clubs, unfortunately Rangers situation and the manner punishment was handled, [not saying right or wrong so do not start screaming] is a complete disaster. Sitting in my club having few pints after games today in mixed company and next to no comment on either of both results today, which sums up the road we are on, and if anyone [including those with a £28000 salary increase] think that an absurd league reconstuction is going to change it they are living in cloud cuckoo land, albeit with a nice little earner.

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The fundemental problem is 2/3 of the football going public support 2 teams. When last did another team win the league?

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Re 1} unfortunately you cannot change that and therefore got to take that into account when trying to do anything about the state of our game.

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09 Mar 2013 21:41:09
If McCoist has any integrity left he must resign now.

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He will surely wait to win the title first, then he has to go before his rep is destroyed, again we missed B Davies, but derek adams or maybe mcall is the logical choice, ally simply isn't a manager, he is walters assistant, nothing more, so please ally win the league then hand over before you have to face the next division,, for gers sake its time up

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20,000 reasons every week guarantee he won't walk away

Where will he ever get another football pay like that.

He has no chance of a career in pro football in the UK.

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09 Mar 2013 18:57:42
everyone keeps going on about wanting mccoist out the only way this will happen is if we stay away from the games yeh it will hurt our team in the pocket after a few weeks of this green will not take it so mccoist will go for the future of our club mccoist needs to go and this is the only way it will happen {The Ed039's Note - Thats a road nobody wants to risk going down, I mean hitting anyone in the pockets)

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As much as I want him to go I will not be boycotting ibrox {The Ed039's Note - And nobody should)

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Bit of hypocrisy there when you don't do walking away

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Hate to say it but regardless of loyalty this complete rubbish will have walking away in big numbers, do not give me we all need to hang in there, forever, forever but unfortunately there is a limit to many people's forever.

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Fans not turning up for two Ibrox games will get him the push. It's not a boycott, its a vote. Voting with your feet. Season tickets have been bought anyway.
Green isn't going to listen to fans.
Fans need to take back some power. If u keep turning up it means u agree Ally and hid coaches should stay.
Fans raised 25% of shares but don't have 25% of the say or control.

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I don't do walking away either but that is the only way mccoist will go it is the fans that are paying for all the players wages ect us that are getting tain for a mug by our manager and the overpayed players we pay good money to watch this dross least we deserve is decent performances

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10 Mar 2013 01:58:00
I think you need to realise that ally won't go anywhere. Why would he walk away from that salary? And do what? He's got nowhere to go. And who would want to replace him? Green won't sack him either. He can't afford to sack him AND pay for a new manager

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Green will keep ally at present, but if league won and attendances drop or season ticket sales poor he will dumpmhim in summer to boost season ticket sales

if sales drop no future, green plan based on increased revenue from season tickets year on year.

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Green would have to be transparent about the war chest to any new manager

Ally has long since been bought by Green, so is already compliant

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@4 absolutely spot on. If Ally really cares about the club more than his wage packet he will walk at the end of the season. He knows within himself that there are other managers out there that will do a better job. If he doesn't go his legend status will.

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You can't expect fans to just blindly turn up to watch that drivel. I for one won't be renewing my season ticket while McCoist is in charge. I have no confidence in him getting us up the divisions let alone challenge Celtic again. He is the worst manager I have seen at the club and for the sake of the club he needs to go

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09 Mar 2013 18:17:25
well ally get us over the line

and get to hell out of Dodge. Les

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We must sack mccoist tonight. Who will renew season tickets on this drivel? Ally a total legend but sorry you do not have it. We will win the league no problem but it should be done already it should have been won totally undefeated. You have had plenty of time and your signings are a joke. We are playing against young teams of joiners etc so do not use the kids excuse. Full time players on good wages and you cannot make a team from them. You should do the honourable thing. You need to think about it. Make a few mothers day and resign?

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I would agree most seasons but not this season. because if we get the next manager wrong it could be the end for Rangers its that important. the next manager must change the whole club our playing style scouting everything and we won't get this guy tomorrow, we will need to be very careful who we get
. Les

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Gave ally the benefit of the doubt with some of the results this season and his tactics. Today is an all time low and as manager he is responsible. What training tactics are used all week as its like watching kids football. Please ally always a legend but these results are harming your status as a rangers man. Go now. PB

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I agree ally should win us the league and then move upstairs the thing is this though he will need to let the support know this is the plan otherwise the support will dwindle cheers

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09 Mar 2013 18:17:25
This is what happens when cg slags the team of in the Scottish media the players down tools.

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Thats if they lifted there tools at all

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Posted this this morning when I heard what Ally had said ---

'Ally might regret saying this when he needs a 100% from some of these players in the future even if what he says is true. '

Such an incredibly stupid thing to say especially with the current transfer embargo.

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09 Mar 2013 23:09:37
Completely bizarre statement. He does like to drop the history bit in as often as he can. Is this charlie preparing his exit strategy just after the first provisional accounts are made public is it coincidence that todays official attendance figure was so much lower than normal

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09 Mar 2013 18:02:32
Just watched an interview from sir Walter after his final home game in charge in 2011. States in the interview about his success and if you don't have it you won't be here very long. Time to put your heart to one side and advise chuck to do the right thing. Walter already told Ally not to take the job maybe he knows deep down he's not got it.

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I would love to ask Ally face to face if he thinks he deserves that big fat bonus he is on for winning this league because no one in the Scottish media will ever ask the question.

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09 Mar 2013 18:02:13
Ed made a valid point there regards Ally's "We don't do walking away. " Similarly Green is equally damned by saying he would leave the day he sacks him. Too many cheap, ill-thought out, spouted mantras that sounded like good sound bytes but ultimately bring their own price later on.

Gaz {The Ed039's Note - All very true Gaz, good point)

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09 Mar 2013 17:56:38
people were saying no billy davies, but look what he has done with forest. just shows u how a good manager can come in and show improvement. we won't change manager now, but more of this next season and ally is gone. so do u r self a favour some, get the scouting in order, bring quality in, and play 2 0r 3 up front. if not u may as well go now, save us all the hassle

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You must be mad if you want that eejit for another season, anybody would get us out of what div we are in its time to cut our losses and try and save any pride we have left, just get someone with a bit of tactical ability because ally aint. trueblue.

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Why would billy davies leave the championship to manage rangers in whatever div we are in next season? {The Ed039's Note - Nobody said he would do that?)

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Erm probably because he is a gers former player and a big gers fan, Billy is rangers thru and thru, and a great manager too, altho he has just went back to forrest, {The Ed039's Note - Forrest are now in the play-off places, so I dont see him moving on unless he has a run in with the owners in the summer)

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09 Mar 2013 17:52:47
I do not want to jump on the get ally out bandwagon, as I admire the chap. But this is not acceptable. Over at stirling they were winning 9-1. I thought we would have done that 6 or 7 times this season, never mind suffering this drivle. I have said it before, as others have. one up front will get mcoist one thing, and one thing only the sack, why is he so blind to this. how can the clubs record goal scorer obsesively play one up front in any division, never mind this division. These players are not fit to polish the boots, never mind play for this club {The Ed039's Note - The reason he plays one up top is simple, he was taught that way. That was Smith's tactics and he learned to coach that way. I really dont want to get to the point where Ally destroys his legend as we all must acknowledge that he is a legend and thank him for everything, but he would be even more of a legend if he stepped aside and said its time for something a bit different)

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1 upfront. arghhhhh
that alone should have ally chased out of ibrox,
playing 1 up front against div 3 part-timers is an absolute embarassment and shows a total lack of belief in himself and the rangers players he has signed,
taxi for mcoist!

ian

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09 Mar 2013 17:44:37
talk of Stuart McCall being in place next season, hope so as we cannot go on like this. The fans can only take so much pain. Yes we are 20 points ahead and will win the league, but the way we are playing is not good enough {The Ed039's Note - Everyone keeps talking about the margin, which is now something like 17 points and Queens have a game in hand, so if they win that down to 14 points. In my opinion that is not winning the league at a "canter". Lets face it Rangers with the players available at their disposal should probably have the 3rd Division title wrapped up already, that and the brand of football being played shows some real flaws in the coaching team and along with majority of posters, I feel it is a well overdue time for change)

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Agreed that we are winning most of the games, but no style, skill level questionable and some chancers in defence.

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09 Mar 2013 18:12:56
I posted on Thursday about Ally going to London to film 2 Question of sport quizes and was shot down in flames.
Someone else asked what Ally and his coaches did at MP and was also given short thrift.
But this result only strenghtens our point, Ally is a poor coach and looks more interested in going back to tv quizes than coaching the team.

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09 Mar 2013 17:40:20
For once Mr Green was speaking the truth ----the team is the worst. How can you expect people to pay good money to look at this rubbish. No shame in defeat but not at this level, Annan. ----Good luck to them. Fed up with them all and the antics at Ibrox. Anything but professional, now and for sometime. It all must change and soon.

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Ally has no shame -- week after week we are subjected to this dross, and he thinks its ok!!! time WE got him out! he's a disgrace and should be forced out NOW! - NO GLORY IN WINNING the 3rd Div with full time players on big wages, but he seems to think its a world beater! - - he's a joke of a manager and should hang his head in shame and say sorry for being unseless - WALK NOW ALL OR BE FORCED OUT!

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Charlie boy won't sack him unless WE Demand it!! - YOU choose charles who you want most - Ally or the fans!

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Unfortunately ally doesn't think he is a very limited manager. he believes he is the man. if a managers job was available in any other 3rd division club, do you think that he would be offered the position - no chance. he is only the manager of rangers because of his links with the club. he is not there on merit. we did it with john greig and he we are again with ally. our club has expectations and unproven managers are the last thing we need. I sat through todays embarrasing performance and wonder how much longer we have to put up with this rubbish. even when we win the standard of football is rubbish. we have no style - it's punt it up the park and hope we get a break. when we do get a chance to knock it about we can't seem to string 3 passes together so we revert to punting it up the park. time for a change I think.

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09 Mar 2013 17:01:21
Green is right but should never have gone public. The coaching team that he is happy with are utter rubbish. What an embarrassment to the Name of Glasgow Rangers. McCoist must go or be sacked and as soon as possible or he will waste what little money we have left. I despair.

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09 Mar 2013 17:29:25
rubbish absolutely rubbish! Not good enough. The club is going no where with this group of players. Loosing at Ibrox to a team of part timers is a new low. Players like Black, Argryiou, Cribari, Shiels have done nothing. Our goalkeeper can't keep a clean sheet we our pathetic. Gowdy54 {The Ed039's Note - I have no problem with Neil Alexander (I do have a problem with his salary though), a goalkeeper needs protection, without it, he is going to concede goals no matter whether it is Alexander, Buffon or Casillas)

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The defence has been atrocious since the start of the season and still is. We must have something better at Murray Park.

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09 Mar 2013 17:27:35
great tactics Ally. McCullough up front Cribari at the back. Little on the left wing instead of the middle, and of course no sign of Hemmings or Aird, and McKay on the bench! you couldn't make this up. and we wonder why we can't play football. McCoist is just another good player who couldn't hack it as a manager. You only have to look at how ordinary average players like Stein, Ferguson and Smith coped as man managers, and NOT dressing room clowns.
Out now Ally, let us see a complete clearout on the backroom staff and give "average" guys a chance to prove themselves.
Maybe Jimmy Calderwood, or Derek McInnes?
Personally I would love to see David weir but his family are settled on Merseyside {The Ed039's Note - Weir has been my choice from the start of the season as I didnt want Ally returning this season never mind next. I have said all along this job is made for a young hungry manager with vision, an eye for a player, determination and grit. Ally has none of these traits and it is long overdue for him to step down)

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Just a question for the ed. What makes you think Weir has these qualities you mention? I personally think we need a battle hardened manager with plenty of experience and contacts in the game. {The Ed039's Note - For most part it is the same qualities he has carried with him throughout his career, I know we have still to judge his eye for a player, but he is a player throughout his career, even before he joined Rangers, I thought would someday make an outstanding manager, I have no problem with the prospect of Derek McInnes either, but I wouldnt consider Jimmy Calderwood or anyone like that as I think the job is there for someone to make a name for themselves)

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Has to be Terry Butcher for me ed. He'd sort out the slackers and get rid of the dead wood. {The Ed039's Note - I dont doubt that, but no disrespect for what he has done in Scottish football, he has been found out elsewhere)

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Surely derek adams of ross county would be an ideal manager,
he has brought ross county through the divisions and now sit proudly 2nd in the esp-pee-el, something that ally could only ever dream of.

ian {The Ed039's Note - Ally did finish 2nd in the SPL last season, but you make a good point, and that is the sort of manager I am talking about, young, hungry, talented and out to make a name for themselves)

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Derek Adams has to be Scotland's manager of the Year by a mile this season. Another great result for him today.

On his resources Ally is possibly the poorest manager of the year in Scotland. Honestly. {The Ed039's Note - It sounds harsh but its probably not far off being true to be honest)

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09 Mar 2013 17:12:57
God almighty are we expected to accept this rubbish. We are RANGERS for f"^CK'S sake.

If we are not careful everyone will be walking away.

Mr Green please exert some authority before it is too late.

Play in England we can barely play in Scotland.

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09 Mar 2013 17:10:54
Go now Ally and take Durrant and McDowall with you, that is a damn disgrace. There is no excuse, there is not pace, no flair, just unadulterated garbage. If Ally does not resign he should be shown the door and quickly. We cannot let Ally buy any more players, he just can't see a player.

I am astonished that this kind of result can happen, we are playing Annan at home FFS. The players should be thoroughly embarrased by that sham of a performance. There was not one who earned pass marks today, a damn disgrace.

If there ain't a new face in charge before season ticket time there will be thousands who will not renew and I and my boy will be two of them. Why is McCulloch not playing at the back, how many games are we going to say the defence is dodgy, what does he do about it, bugger all.

We should have signed young, fit, pacey prospects, not have beens, although they really are not even that, all of them have always been dross.

Go now Ally!

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09 Mar 2013 17:07:35
worst Rangers team ever. CG was right we are getting worse each week.

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09 Mar 2013 17:06:03
Well done Annan. a little piece of history. Well done.

Ally please go tonight

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09 Mar 2013 16:56:28
I can't take any more of this utter rubbish only one thing to say MCCOIST must go or be sacked tonight.

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Yes, I think that was the worst today, no clues, no ideas, and that was coming from the bench, don't want to hear anymore excuses what allys going to do to the players that don't perform because it isn't having 1 bit of effect doug t. s. o

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9th March 2013 a truly great day in the history of Scottish football. The two "great" clubs defeated by teams not big enough to be classed as minnows. A day all non-OF supporters will remember.

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CG may be right but what is he going to do about it.

Let's get into 2nd Division and see where we are by Christmas

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09 Mar 2013 17:03:14
There is not a chance in hell he will be sacked, Rangers can't at this time afford the payout. If he had any honour, he would resign.

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@op While I'm hurting too, you can't seriously compare Annan to Ross County?We are in a dire state being beaten in Div 3 ----we shouldn't be loosing a game, I know but don't bring in other teams to share the pain. Ross County is no minnow ---you malign them.

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How many times do we go thru this, week afer week----Ally must go it's said. Then we win a game by a small margin against part timers and we forget about it till the next time. Today was so awful we can't forget this one. Is anyone listening to the fans?We want and deserve better than this.

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@2) Deflection tactics ain't working pal! Ross County are the current form team in the SPL following winning the scottish 1st Division at an absolute canter, and managed by arguably the 2nd best manager in scottish football. They would annihilate this Rangers team. You shouldn't even be concerning yourself with they're result today. Beat by Annan Athletic at ibrox? Those players should be ashamed, along with the manager. And no I don't think those words are too strong.

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09 Mar 2013 16:52:42
Green didn't go far enough " worst team ever" and "worst manager ever" McCoist must go!

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Ally can, if given a time, turn the worst Rangers team into the best Rangers team. {The Ed039's Note - Your blue tinted specs are must be even more blue than mines then, as I can not see that happening in a million years)

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09 Mar 2013 16:47:53
There comes a time when loyalty becomes blind. We need a football manager not a former legend, cheeky chappy, or TV personality. There needs to be an authority figure in dressing room. There needs to be some fear in that dressing room. Time to change. {The Ed039's Note - Great post)

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Problem is that person owns 5% of the club and is unsackable.

Next manager won't get that. deal

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Lets be honest here. McCoist is not there for his managerial nous end of. he's been retained for reasons outwith the perimeters of the playing field which is perhaps understandable given the extenuating circumstances but he is not the answer and should be warmly thanked for completing the first step in the recovery process then offered a position more in line with the skills & esteem which he definately does posess. he needs to concede that he is not cut out for management before he loses any more respect.

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09 Mar 2013 16:43:40
hope McCoist AND Green get a copy of the video for Stirlings demolishing of East Stirling. Maybe they will realise just how bad we are and how to tackle the "mickey mouse" teams!

We ARE rubbish with RUBBISH coaching staff and pathetic judges of good or bad players.

Bring in Calderwood and McInnes to turn us round

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No its time for a fearsome manager terry butcher.

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That's the type of result we should be seeing most weeks at Ibrox but its the usual struggle if we don't score in the first fifteen minutes. Ally's tactical assessment is punt the ball up the park and if all else fails keep doing it. I have said from day one he has not got it and I am glad to see others now admit it. He has cost the club £25m plus with his cup failures and to think of giving him more money to buy players is unthinkable. I was happy to let him stay till the end of the season and then walk away, but we need to act now and bring in a new manager and coaching team with new ideas and the opportunity to bit the ground running next season. Always a Rangers Legend never a Rangers Manager.

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09 Mar 2013 16:35:07
This is dire, I have supported Ally but enough is enough, this is just rubbish.

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He has to go tonight utterly clueless. A new low for the club losing to a mid table part time team at home. McCoist out!

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We will not win div2 with mccoist as manager. Sack him now, if we don't sack before the new season we are fooked!

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I totally agree, once again out thought and outplayed by part timers being paid a pittance.

Please Ally show some dignity and resign. Thanks for all you have done for the club. Back to Question of Sport for you

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09 Mar 2013 16:25:44
just looking at ongoing scores Rangers are 2 down to who after 55 minutes is this some sort of joke this game is at Ibrox for f**k sake

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Green was spot on-worse ever rangers team plus worse ever rangers manager- do us all a favour ally ang go {The Ed039's Note - This is where the "we dont do walking away" quote will come back and bite Ally in the ass, I think even he knows thats the best thing to do but cant)

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Sorry hit wrong button totally agree with post. trueblue.

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09 Mar 2013 16:23:12
Lets plan ahead for next season by firstly removing mccoist and durrant - clueless! {The Ed039's Note - Dont forger MacDowell)

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Alexander too, young guys have the chance to establish themselfs in the team a chance they would never have got and they are just not doing it. as for alexander Ithough he was better than this some poor goals he's lost this season.

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09 Mar 2013 14:28:58
Ally commenting on Mr Green's ill advised statement stated, " the players are doing exactly what I ask of them" What a damning indictment of a coaches ability from the coach himself. Staggering really.

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09 Mar 2013 08:25:09
How long is Neil Murray going be at rangers? He's useless

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I would suspect for as long as Ally is there. Big pals.

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As long as Ally and he is useless too.

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You have got to question some of the recent signings and the current players we are linked with.

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09 Mar 2013 02:30:35
Its official. If 12-12-18 put through we start at the bottom again.

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Im all for league reconstruction if it signals the end of regan and doncaster. I don't know why scottish football hasn't considered 20-22, there just is no need for so many divisions.

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09 Mar 2013 12:33:51
not really still 1 step closer to top league. and hopefully 3 years audited accounts will be in place by then. it would be scandalous if rangers got to top league but could not enter due to lack of financial accounts

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Why bears against 12-12-18,

it allows rangers to play SPL teams - 1 season earlier and 4 promtions. so easier to get back to toplevel?

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@3 it means we have to play Annan again next season!

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Don't forget that it also makes it easier for the Ibrox side to get into the top division, as I don't see winning the current 1st division as being likley the way things are just now.
Al

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08 Mar 2013 18:37:47
just caught the end of scotland today to see the new rangers target I thought he looked a good tidy player quick feet and some good moves and by far better than the current players. then I realised it was socks the shetland pony and I had missed the sports news pity I think he could do a job for yous

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Op You had me there----thought I'd missed something. I did see Socks myself and thought he was pretty nifty. He's a big star now though and we couldn't afford him---making too much money elsewhere. Pity

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Yes after today's showing, Socks looks a better buy than some others McCoist has made. What a day----shameful being beaten again by part-timers. All credit to Annan though

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