Rangers Banter Archive October 09 2016

 

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09 Oct 2016 20:42:47
Gor, even if what your saying turns out to be true. Joey Barton has no influence on whether I buy my season book or not. I'm a rangers fan, not a joey Barton fan or any other player for that matter. All that matters to me is rangers. Whoever plays for us!



09 Oct 2016 23:25:04
Yogibear72, i think we are all the same in regards any player that pull on the jersey we will support, we maybe not agree wiith the signing of certain players, but once they cross the white line in a rangers top they get the backing of us supporters.



10 Oct 2016 07:10:31
Its the way it should be at rangers, we are the greatest, most successful football club in the world with of course the best supporters bar none! Any player playing for us with that famous scrolled rfc on their chest will always have the complete backing and support from myself and all 'gers fans in general, that's why when our players do eventually move on and leave us they miss our football club terribly, that's the way it should be because we are the people and always will be!



10 Oct 2016 12:35:02
that it mate people make Glasgow and
we are the people!
every one says the league is over and I have been one of them but then I sat and worked it out celtic will draw at least a few games this season and lose 1 or two games if we can get the balance and attitude right quickly we can still give them a run for their money all we have to do is beat them in the league 3 times and not drop anymore points to silly teams and bobs your auntie we can be right back in it.



10 Oct 2016 12:28:14
Perhaps we should act like the greatest club in the world rather than like sports direct when it comes to treating employees.



10 Oct 2016 19:30:33
Its funny when on this forum in the last couple of weeks i have seen fans not supporting mw, fod, tav, kiernan, wilson, senders, wallace, barton, krank, wags, mckay, miller and wags.

If we acted like sports direct he wouldn't have had a contract and would have been sacked rather than suspension on full pay and a full investigation like every employment lawyer would tell you to do.



11 Oct 2016 02:35:58
we need to be positive, the dark days are over, we got away with murder some might say, we enjoyed years of streching our resources and paid a hefty fine for this, me i would not of changed a thing, we would never be at 54 if it wasnt for our ambitions, i call it ambitions not cheating! we spent too much too quickly, i think every club and individual is guilty of this in their life time, I kniw I have been.

now its onward and upwards, we have a decent young side, i believe joe ( always look on the bright side of life) dodoo will be a rangers great.

wind ass and rosisseter are future rangers captains. one will need to be vice captain of course but i see a leader in both.

Tav I would play in midfield or as wing back.

My point is we have a good young side, we do not want to get in another fourth division situation by running out of cash, we need to stop this ohhh let's sign Kieran Richardson, we must be realistic, we are like celtic we are a selling club.

I would much rather be a stepping stone for young exciting players who we may/ may not make good profit on than a place where players come to die.



11 Oct 2016 06:39:28
Disco squad, the only difference is sports direct would have had him on zero hours contracts, but there again he would only have been on the living wage.



09 Oct 2016 19:58:18
Personally I think the Barton saga is being handled poorly by the club. The boy speaks his mind and he has been punished. Now let him prove his worth and fight for his place. He was player of the season In a better league so he can't be a bad player and can only add to our squad.



09 Oct 2016 20:29:33
Think he has kicked his last ball for Rangers. By next week he will have been out for a month. Has been doing fitness work but will never be match fit till December. May depend on how he handles the betting charge? It may offer Rangers a chance to use that charge to get him out and I for one would think Warburton would take that as a way out of the mess. If he comes back there are dressing room unrest ahead! Let's hope he comes back. Barton must stay!



09 Oct 2016 22:51:09
His past record proves beyond any shadow of a doubt ( a leopard never changes its spots ) Trouble then Trouble now and Trouble in the future I want him no were near Glasgow Rangers FC my opinion we all have one!



10 Oct 2016 12:41:37
The only thing that shocks me on here is that this has some how come as a surprise about Barton! The guys an utter low life and always has been! This, 'he only speaks his mind' pish is staggering!

Do you honestly think your club has banished him for just speaking his mind! No chance, he's said or did something major and there's no going back! And now your management are trying to shift the biggest earner at your club who's only 4 months into a 2 year deal! And to think you honestly thought that we would somehow be running scared when you signed this half wit!



10 Oct 2016 12:35:06
I never wanted him, didn't think he was what we needed on or off park. But we did sign him, and making him a scapegoat for the managers inadequacies is utterly pathetic.

Seems clear that the club are trying to force him out. I know employment law, we are on very shaky ground as he already has a good case for constructive dismissal.

Those acting like they have never made a mistake in their life's seriously need to get a grip.

Perhaps lack of workplace/ employment experience could be a factor there.



10 Oct 2016 15:02:07
he was bullying a younger player then used abusive language towards Glasgow rangers manager! he has got off lightly. in the days of big jock wallace joey barton would have gotten his balls booted.



10 Oct 2016 19:33:39
No accusation of bullying and no confirmatuon of swearing. All the things that look like bad handling if the case has come from tye papers. All we did was say he had been suspended from training pending an investigation, nothing more.



09 Oct 2016 11:40:26
With Barton been told his ban is now for a further week, I think that tells us he's kicked his last ball for us now . What a shambles.



09 Oct 2016 13:57:25
So far for me the recruitment we were all raving about is turning out to be our weakest link! Barton, Hill, quickly followed up by Warburton himself, although he admitted to making a mistake leaving out Halliday recently. Perhaps he is capable of learning afterall. I really hope so.



09 Oct 2016 14:01:42
Shambles alright. 2million to get rid of him we havnt got 2 pound.



09 Oct 2016 14:54:25
It's not even been ten games in and were saying the recruitment is "our weakest link" and a "shambles"?

Would you say players like Rossiter, Dodoo, Windass, Crooks, Hodson, Kranjcar, Hill, Garner and even Senderos, haven't added significant strength and depth to the team.

Have seen something from each of the players mentioned that shows ability and each one brings us something the squad didn't have last season. That's all you can really ask new signings after a few games.

One signing that ticked most of the boxes when it was made, doesn't mean the summer recruitment was anything other than sufficient for this league.



09 Oct 2016 16:25:13
Exactly Thom. My thoughts exactly.



09 Oct 2016 16:57:19
Don't shoot the messenger here but here is the story doing the rounds. Joey Barton was signed by Dave King to boost season tickets. He was not in Warburtons plans at all but was told to play him. Now that season tickets have been sold, do we or can we afford Joey Barton? His job is done now at Rangers while they seek a way out for him. Give it some thought before you agree or disagree.



09 Oct 2016 17:34:30
Thorn, while I agree with you too an extent as the potential is certainly there, windlass dodoo n rossiter have hardly played n crooks has had 20 mins a lot to prove before they can be classed as successful signings, wish windass could stay fit tho as I think he could be a wee gem.



09 Oct 2016 18:35:42
Didn't say they were successful signings yet though mate.

TBH it would be surprising to see all or even a couple of the young players stay injury free for the majority of the season, which gives them a decent run of games.

Having said that, Dodoo has shown real class even just coming of the bench in games. Windass has been a real spark in the team and hope he starts at Inverness. When Liverpool don't want to see a young player leave, you can tell they have something about them, all be it, along with the injuries. Rossiter is a star in the making.



09 Oct 2016 18:40:23
Heard that it was davie weir who pushed for barton cause we knocked him back ( thought that he would be spurred on by that) . thing is lads if he had knuckled down, played football and left his BS and tantrums at the door he couldve been a cracking player for yourselves, PS its wallace and halliday that's said if he comes back they will be leaving.



09 Oct 2016 20:22:03
I can assure you wallace and halliday have not said that.



09 Oct 2016 21:01:11
Fair enough Cee, i'm just passing on what i was told by the same guy that told me he was signing for you b4 it hit the press. Apparently hallidays been in tears a few times over all this.



09 Oct 2016 21:42:07
Hallidays waited his whole life to play for Rangers so i doubt that wee scouse numpty would make him leave.



09 Oct 2016 22:59:37
We are wide open to a constructive dismissal claim. Wide open.



09 Oct 2016 21:36:27
Gor , we never needed any big signings just to sell season tickets, the crowds show my point, our first season back in the top league would have drove the numbers us, even in the s.t. were 50 pound deerer we would still have bought them, the top brass tried to finish us completlly, and good bluenoses would buy them, just to let them know we will not go down without a fight.



10 Oct 2016 07:18:11
fair enough bhoy wonder but it's not they 2, If you had said any other names I couldn't be sure but they 2 are a no lol. Lee wallace will have to be dragged out of ibrox kicking and screaming from what I know of him.



10 Oct 2016 12:36:14
dishco,

I can assure you we are not open to a constructive dismissal case. We may be open to a wrongful dismissal case at some time but I doubt that also, assuming our club have even a basic employment law advisor. In answer to another post I think he will be on full wages at least for the initial ban.

It all depends on what he was told when suspended ie three weeks suspended and we will discuss it then. Barton could then be dismissed on a number of grounds;

Gambling - even though we have not dismissed previous gamblers, the club may decide the crime is worse than before and deserved a harder hit for the good of the game–we would need to sack all future gamblers,

Gross misconduct - I would love to see a footballers contract but I have to believe these points are addressed.

Complaint by sponsors - Maybe SD are so offended by bad behaviour they have a clause inserted in a players contract regarding acceptable behaviour.



09 Oct 2016 11:08:41
That's Barton been told not to report back to Murray park until further notice, I had a feeling he was finished at gers, obviously the manager sees him as a disruptive influence, pure waste of wages imo.



09 Oct 2016 13:03:11
Even if the manager shakes hands on it with Barton he could end up losing the dressing room. looks like Barton has upset too many players for him to come back .



10 Oct 2016 12:41:30
If the manager can't resolve a simple dispute and have the respect of the dressing room then he doesn't command any real respect.

Iv managed people who have went hammer and tongs at each other and said some truly AWFUL things. I have always managed to find a way to get people to work things out and work with each other, basic managerial skills. Without them the job is impossible.

Perhaps Warburton needs me to do this part of his job for him .



09 Oct 2016 10:40:27
After the recent 'I'm Scottish but don't support Scotland' debate (if you can call it a debate) I would just like to say that I feel sorry for those who don't get goosebumps and chills when they sing Flower of Scotland. What a chant. Makes me feel all stoneage and rebilious. Feel like grabbing a kitchen knife and marching doon to York. Hahahaha. Come on lads, get in touch with your roots. Read a bit of history. Shake off that Stockholme syndrome and sing.

OH FLOWER OF SCOTLAND.



09 Oct 2016 11:08:32
Still like to see Scotland win. But going to watch a team with SFA on their badge is a little difficult after what's happened to our club the last few years.

If the next manager is Scottish then you can imagine McAllister and McGhee being in with a shout which is quite something.



09 Oct 2016 11:26:58
I don't have a patriotic or nationalistic bone on my body. As far as I am concerned my allegiance is to my friends and family, not a nation. From my experience I would say Nationalism and Patriotism are tools used by states and other bodies, to influence people's actions on their behalf. If you want to buy into that guff I can't stop you buy I won't be joining you on the journey.



09 Oct 2016 11:27:27
Can you remind me what the sfa done to your club. It's time to move on and start realising your blaming the wrong people. What happened to your club came from within.



09 Oct 2016 11:34:34
The price of tickets is shocking for national team, thorn why the hate for sfa?



09 Oct 2016 11:34:34
The price of tickets is shocking for national team, thorn why the hate for sfa?



09 Oct 2016 14:44:42
Have to agree as much as i disagree with some of the pants that went on with thw sfa i love the anthem and ultra proud scot, watched the game here in england last night staying at lake district and what a laugh i had with the guys at the bar, they knew they wouldn't turn up and i knew we would somehow mess up so all good.



09 Oct 2016 15:34:24
Montypiefan , i support scotland in every other sport bar football. the steven hendries / andy murrays, ricky burns etc. i'm more than proud to put when abroad to let people know i'm scottish, not english. its the way the sfa, have treated there most succesful team that has me boycotting the national team.

I'm proud to be a scot until it comes to football, and my attitude on this won't stop until we have total change in the sfa, they have not got a clue. look at our ratings, look how we compare to other small nations. they are on the rise while we tumble downwards.

It's no wonder Uefa are trying to change there format. they know we won't bring competition to there tournaments. we are not good enough, there needs to be a shake up like no other.

Get people that know what they are doing (maybe ex players) to go and watch how other nations are climbing the rankings, how they are reaching pupils in schools teaching them at training how to play the modern game. the subject is a big debate, and the people running the game in our nation have not got a clue. that's not even an opinion, that's a fact.



09 Oct 2016 14:56:25
Don't recall the sfa liquidating you or running up debt you couldn't repay.



09 Oct 2016 16:31:35
It's the people in charge of the SFA that you're angry at. They are finite and won't last forever. The SFA and the national team will live on. Protest the people. Not the entity. Remember it's our SFA, the fans, the numpties that run it won't last forever.

And BossHogg, geez peace. It's s game of Fitbaw. I don't mix politics and conspiracies with my fitbaw mate. Chill.



09 Oct 2016 17:40:33
The same mate was belting out flower of Scotland in ma living room last night my 2 wee boys looking at me like I was a weirdo lol, as for the sfa thing we had to take a punishment or it would have looked like the biggest conspiracy ever, the tims would never have let us hear the end of it, personally said at the time I'd have happily started in bottom league to ensure we still had a club to support.



09 Oct 2016 18:23:23
Mallythetally, the s.f.a. had us as guilty before we got near court rooms, all they had to do was wait until all aspects of our fiction debt was looked into, but no they tried to finish us completely. this was done to benefit one mainly to help one club imho.

it was also to benefit smaller clubs like aberdeen, dundee utd, clubs that thought they would benefit them getting in europa league, and we all seen how that worked out eh. do you honestly think if real madrid / man utd clubs fell on hard times there governing bodies wouldn't have stepped in and tried to help them?

look at the state of our national team, our clubs having to play as many qualifiers, due to Scottish football going down the pan basically. until this country (sfa) get there act together we will tumble down and down. players won't want to come to play in our country because we are going backwards.

the s.f.a, are only interested in there wages for fecking up scottish football. i remember the good times when scottish clubs done well in europe; the aberdeens/ dundee utd/ celtic/ and rangers teams doing more than enough in europe. where have those great days gone? no scottish club has a hope of ever reaching a euro final again. the clubs i've mentioned should have built on their success, but they never, why not?



09 Oct 2016 20:00:13
Bigjoh, the sfa are tosser a but, they were following the rules, as they did with airdrie, livingstone and Gretna.
It was the people that ran your club into oblivion you should be angry at, not the ones enforcing the rules.



09 Oct 2016 23:13:43
Bigj, what were you guilty of pal, the sfa had sweet all to do with the way your club was run or the liquidation, what's your problem with them?



10 Oct 2016 12:09:16
Mallythetally they've not got a clue, end off.



10 Oct 2016 12:43:45
Why, if people hate Scotland so much do they not go and live somewhere they like more? We won't miss you.



10 Oct 2016 18:53:14
Dishco squad, i don't know if your post about not being missed, if so i love scotland, im born and bred glasweigen (easterhouse all my 60 years on this earth) its the current s. f. a. that do my nut in, rules they make up as the grow old, I've got too many gripes with them to list them all, they have not got a clue in what they are trying to do, imho.



09 Oct 2016 10:24:00
Arguably one of the most successful managers in recent history is Scottish. Why won't he revolutionise our national team? Get it done Fergie you big sellout.



09 Oct 2016 14:42:24
Monty, have you been on the buckfast for breakfast. Fergie did his stint, stand in but done, and saw what a thankless task it was.



09 Oct 2016 16:34:50
Naw mate. He managed them in the 80s. Long before the crisis in the national team and long before he established himself as one of the worlds best managers. So naw. My comment stands.



09 Oct 2016 20:03:38
You could have ferguson, murinho and pep managing Scotland, and they wouldn't do any better than strachan.
Sad to say, but I agree with Andy Roxburgh, Scotland should have done what France did with the foreigners rule.



09 Oct 2016 21:10:26
Strachan is hopeless one up front donkey in Chris Martin takes Burke of then after days we play well what game was he watching.



09 Oct 2016 22:22:53
Monty, read sir Alex's own comments in many journals, it's a job for those who have no further ambition. Since ally Macleod stood at hampden in may 1978 and stated we would win the world cup, it's been a poison chalice. I was there and believed the hype. Willie Johnston and all.



10 Oct 2016 12:44:55
Scotland needs a young, ambitious coach with a sound tactical ability.

Strachan should of went after failure in last campaign- would Martin O'Neill have stayed as Irish boss had we (done what we should of) beat them to qualification.

Please don't say there is nobody else, there are dozens upon dozens of managers who would put themselves forward.



10 Oct 2016 15:42:49
its for those without ambition fergie is sitting on his ase mate so he should try do us a turn.



09 Oct 2016 09:05:55
games like that one last night make me miss berti vogts!



09 Oct 2016 10:21:44
Hahaha aye. After last night I'd rather Bert and Ernie.



 
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