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13 Jul 2018 11:44:55
Fellow bears

I was at the game last night and I left disappointed and frustrated. I know it fist competitive game and can't look to much into it however what I seen did not excite me. Aggression and fast pace with and without ball. Well a never witnessed that last night. Marelos up top alone was a poor showing at home, he was in desperate need of support and it was just not there.

ARFIELD is a stand out what a top player and is there any logical reason why Middleton did not start, as he clearly done more when he came on than windass done all night.

Build up play far to slow. Also switching play Wiv diagonal balls way to much.

I reserve judgment but I have now lowered my expectations of this season, I hope I am proven wrong but that display last nite is worrying.

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13 Jul 2018 12:03:15
After the first 15 mins Katic and Goldson were very good ok Shkupi did get a few first touches in the box but most of those were on the sides of the box. Windass missed a sitter my 8 year old could have scored and 3 other decent chances. We could and should have won 4 or 5 -0 and most on here would have been happy. I'll admit I was wrong on Ejaria looked very good, should of had a penalty too after ripping through their defence. Middleton had us all on the edges of our seats from the moment he came on must start instead of Windass and play Candieas where Windass played.

13 Jul 2018 12:03:17
Honestly M3LVO, I respect your opinion but it’s the first game of the season with a new Manager and squad! You got to keep believing and the club is trying it’s BEST! 🇬🇧

13 Jul 2018 12:09:02
I'm a big fan of scotty arfield but don't know where you're coming from,
saying he was a stand out in last night's, european game! He had a poor game i thought, by his standards!

13 Jul 2018 12:37:19
I also thought Arfield was not great but like you Coops, I think the lad is a good player. Not a great display but it is difficult against a well organised side. Could and should have been five. At least chances are being made. The new signings looked good. A lot of positives to be taken. The team will take time to gel and with the addition of another couple of players I think we will be good to go

13 Jul 2018 13:16:32
Thought arfeild and candieas were exceptionally poor last night. Defence looks solid and I like the look of katic and goldson. The jury is still out on Flanagan for me. Don't like have no left sided player on that side. Windass needs to be more clinical as does mroelos however wouldn't say either of them were poor.

13 Jul 2018 14:23:13
What was very evident to me at last night's game fellow bears, was the need for an out and out striker, a finisher! Glenn middleton deserves a run in our starting 11!He's going to be a fantastic, direct, edge of your seat, winger for us! I've got no doubt about it! Personally, like i've said for ages now, that i'd sell windass! If we're playing candeias, play him in his natural position! we can move jamie murphy in one, play candeias on his natural, right wing position and play young glenn middleton, in the left wing position! Thoughts on this fellow bears?

13 Jul 2018 16:18:55
Middleton is just a kid and should not be thrown in at the deep end!

He hits the bye line at every opportunity but even last night they were starting to read him and he became less effective.

Use him for the last 20 minutes and ease him in gently as the rest of the team starts to gel - if he was that good already he would still be at Norwich!

13 Jul 2018 16:42:21
Arfield was poor last night, created nothing, can’t see why you think he was a stand out tbh

13 Jul 2018 11:18:35
1st game lastnight a lot of positives, Flanagan Goldson arfield Murphy tav played well. let's give the team a chance before all the negative bull starys. we need to wait till sg get all the players in and fully fit then we'll see a Rangers team on the park. just hope we can bring in a proven goal scorer as we're desperately needing 1 in, crested enuf last night be not got the number 9 we need.

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13 Jul 2018 15:05:24
Id agree Flanagan, Goldson, Murphy and Tav played well but to be honest Arfield was abysmal, just hope its an off game. He looked a lot better last Friday but then again that was against a lesser opponent

13 Jul 2018 16:20:50
What a load of sh**! Arfield was NOT ABYSMAL!

He did not have a great game but let's put things in perspective instead of talking crap!

14 Jul 2018 08:34:03
Am I the only one that thought Flannigan was suspect? thotbhe gave the ball away a lot and looked quite desperate for pace at times but we will see

13 Jul 2018 11:15:10

I share some of your anxieties post match, same old. However since i'm on holiday let's put positive spin on it.

1. 2 games played scored 8 conceded 0.

2. Arguably 2 of our best players to come in - Umar and Lassana. I don't think we are finished in the transfer market either.

3. We created enough chances for someone who could head on target would have got a hatrick.

4. Our bench is a serious upgrade Dec, Jack, Ovie, Midds (Ill leave out Haliday)

HOWEVER - Unless Windass, Morelos and Candias step up 2 levels we will not win the league. I think the management know this and will not hesitate for a second to drop anybody with a hair out of place - that's the Gerrard mindset.

Be interesting to see what tactics/ formation we play on Tue, now that we have a management team that can change things to suit our opponent/ occasion/ location. Personally think he will go for experience, poss extra midfielder to start. Drop Candias for Jack. They have extremely good pace down the left and Windass could be needed to track back and cover.
Just my opinion - i'm no expert, obviously.
Tav Goldson Katic Flanagan
Windass Jack Mcrorie Arfield Murph

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13 Jul 2018 11:48:46
Good post tjbb, I'd also consider Docherty or even Middleton for windlass. Other option Declan, in Flanagan right play Tav instead of windass.
I'm sure we will score

13 Jul 2018 12:19:53
great post tjbb, ask ourselves a question could rangers live without WINDASS-CANDIAS. i think we could. this season we can't afford luxory players. i want players putting in a shift. fighting for the jersey. windass i'd sell tomorow, any club offering 3 mill pus snap there hand off. candias journeyman player not good enough. middleton gets you standing on your seat. play him nothing to lose. london jock

13 Jul 2018 13:05:10
Good points lads, it’s early days, I think we were well off the pace last night, SG will know it too but won’t rinse them in public like some managers. Sideways balls and low intensity was not what I expected last night however the players will hopefully get more space when they come at us in the 2nd leg. I’d think we’ll win convincingly over there and I’d go 4-1-3-2




Candeias (or Murphy on the right)

Murphy (free role)

13 Jul 2018 10:52:51
Me personally I don’t think Windass is good enough and I think we need better but in saying that he is getting played out of position it’s so easy to see! When he plays just behind the striker he bangs the goals in either play him there or replay him with someone else in the team say like Middleton for me has been brilliant in his 2 sub appearances I definitely start him over Candieas he is rotten maybe Ejaria for Windass cause he looks to be able to play all over midfield that guy and looks fast and comfo on the ball and Middleton for Candieas we all seen what Middleton can do from the bury and last nights appearances

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13 Jul 2018 11:39:31
Replace him***

13 Jul 2018 10:17:23
hi fellow bears
little bit disappointed after last night maybe my expectations were too high? but looking at the stats i think they show that all was not that bad . we had 17 shots off target 10 on target they had 7 shots off target (one did hit the bar) no shots on target 67% posession 15 corners to their 3 i don't think shagger had to make a save? the stats show that we need to finish better need to get more from corners, defence well they didn't have much to do. i was impressed with flanagan and ejaria! considering they couldn't get a game for the liverpool 1st team shows the standard of players liverpool have! overall a reasonable start but maybe not quite what we were hoping for but a win is a win all the same . SG wasnt all that happy with the performance going by his interview going by that there will be marked improvement on the way he won't settle for anything less! # let's go#.

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13 Jul 2018 09:53:38
It is only the second game for the gaffer and we do look more solid at the back in the rare tests that have been put upon them. But the same old problems are still there, no creativity from midfield and no support to the striker! Windass needs to be dropped or sold he is a squad player at best he doesn't suit a formation of 433! Candelas for all his effort won't cut it in a middle 3 and if he is to play further forward won't support the striker which leaves Morelos isolated! We still need a creative attacking midfielder a quality winger and another striker on top of the cb Stevie is looking for! Hopefully we have a bit of money to bring in quality that is required.

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13 Jul 2018 10:04:37
Struth. Agree re candies think at best bench player, will be replaced by coulibally.
Very impressed with Flanagan, I'd gamble with Middleton and try bring in loan winger

13 Jul 2018 10:47:38
The quality winger is already on our books, GLENN MIDDLETON! This young man is going to be special, i feel!

13 Jul 2018 11:07:28
Guys let’s not rush to judgement and let’s give the manger opportunity to shape the best blend. Also let’s not forget we won 2 nil and almost through to the next round. My main observation last night is the that Candelas cannot play inside and if he plays must be played on the right wing. At this stage in the season would not criticise Wndass or Morelas too much about bad misses and sure they will be working hard now in training to rectify. Looking forward to return leg.

13 Jul 2018 11:08:39
shaquiri having medical at liverpool today, hopefully we could get wilson, middleton on the left and wilson on the right now i like the sound of that

13 Jul 2018 11:48:57
Think we need to give Middleton a good few games to see how he performs before saying how good he is

13 Jul 2018 09:51:08
Taken a few hour to digest last night we looked nervous it's obvious we haven't played together as a group Flannigan looks the part, Middleton gave as urgency that was missing prior to his arrival
Goldston and Katic looked able but not really tested for the one shot they had again Tav woefully out of position Morelos again plenty of endeavour with no real product at the end if we're honest he should have been red carded, before you get up in arms if Broony had put his head into any of our players like that we'd be screaming red card then the theatrical dive he's getting pulled back no doubt, so why dive forward? it's embarrassing especially the arms out Windass think we'd be better parting ways, I like the boy but he can't seem to play at ibrox if we can get a fee let him go
Think the clean sheet was vital last night and its a win. possibly the Bury game gave a degree of false expectation IMO. They were far better than I expected looked comfortable on the ball
Onwards and upwards 👍.

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13 Jul 2018 09:30:23
the positives i would take from last night is that the defence looks night and day from last year flannigan looks the real quality we have not seen in a rangers shirt for years and i would tie up the boy middleton on a long term contract immediately don't know what his current deal is but this boy is real class as for the front line we need a new striker in NOW.

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13 Jul 2018 09:44:20
Agree with that. Murphy likes to cut inside a lot but middleton was hitting the byline everytime. Yes we need a new striker.

13 Jul 2018 09:26:19
I think the criticism of Windass is very unfair. Yes he needs to sharpen up his chance taking, but for a midfield player he has a good return. He also carries the ball forward and plays with energy and drive.

Morelos, however, I still remain to be convinced that he can be a regular goalscorer at the level we need. His play is far too erratic, he loses the ball a lot and he seems to waste lots of chances. I know there are those who will point out his goalscoring tally but he also goes long spells without a goal. Still young though, so don't want to write him off.

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13 Jul 2018 09:45:41
Windass was poor last night and other players around him let him know but unless he starts to improve he will be sold. No passengers this season.

13 Jul 2018 11:50:56
These performances from Windass are all too frequent. He can’t be trusted in big games and if someone were to offer £3m we Should take it

13 Jul 2018 09:14:44
Dear Steven,

Welcome to your first real day in the job and congratulations on both the victory and the measured post match comments.

A couple of points I would wish to make:

1. Honeymoons at Rangers do not last long. The ripples of anxiety last night should not be confused with tension at a new team bedding in, but exasperation with what we have witnessed too often - pedantic build up play and an inability to take chances.

2. On the latter, our frustration with Windass and Morelos was palpable last season. I have chosen to hold fire on judgement of both hoping that lack of experience, tiredness and youth might give way to signs of improvement under a new regime. There was no evidence of this last night and our lack of creativity and goal scoring is a debilitating legacy of the Warburton era that has never been addressed since his departure. We do not want to hear post match laments of possession and wonderful play not being translated into goals and results. We've heard that before. Morelos and Windass should be moved on and greater potency must be sought.

Wishing you wisdom in what remains of the transfer window. and budget!


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13 Jul 2018 09:40:43
I continue to be disappointed by Murphy. He is far too soft and lacks any grit, determination or bite when trying to hold off defenders or win back possession. He looked like a soft touch last season (particularly against our main rivals, Celtic and Aberdeen) and they now know it. I think he has established a reputation in Scotland for being someone who can be bullied out of a game, not good

13 Jul 2018 09:52:02
Awg72.I will leave team talks, selection, tactics and motivation up to Mr Gerard rather than you. if that's alright with you. To be fair, you are right, we were not great but he's not going to come out and slaughter his team after the first game.

13 Jul 2018 13:18:34
Thought murphy was our best player last night.


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