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26 Mar 2017 12:16:37
Not so much a rumour but would like the opinions of fellow bears: I'm hoping the management team can spot some talent in the spfl and get Jamie Walker and Liam Lindsay signed. 2 potentially class players that you would hope are within our budget. I would say Jamie walker is an improvement on Barrie Mckay but for the right hand side obviously. Lindsay looking a better player than Kiernan. Basically I want to see our team get an injection of Scottish!
Also all the best to either Barry Ferguson or John Brown for the No3 role.
26 Mar 2017 13:40:23
Hearts will want a mint for walker and I don't think will sell to us. Lindsay plays for partick so might get him heard good things about ryan jack as well and he's out of contract.
26 Mar 2017 13:24:12
Ogbear, i mentioned on here several months ago now, that i hoped rangers would make a move to sign partick thistle centre half, big liam lindsay! He's a very good prospect IMO!
26 Mar 2017 13:49:42
I don't want Rangers to spend on any Scottish based players. If we get them for nowt then yes go for them. Scottish football turned their backs on us and wanted us dead.
26 Mar 2017 15:41:34
Don't understand why someone like Forrest is in the Scotland side while Walker isn't even in the squad.
Would love him at Ibrox.
26 Mar 2017 19:24:52
TBV, are you sure you're not a Celtic fan with that level of bitterness? It's only a game man.
26 Mar 2017 23:55:11
Jamie Walker is an excellent player and certainly would be a great addition to the squad.
27 Mar 2017 12:08:24
I would take Liam Lindsay, Jason Cummings and Jack Baird. All 4 will be internationals at some point. Jaime walker is good but don't know if he is quite good enough.
28 Mar 2017 11:15:25
I don't rate Jack Baird but I would definitely be happy with Walker, Cummings, Liam Lindsay and Ryan Jack! All future Scotland Internationals I reckon
28 Mar 2017 11:16:05
Stevie Mallan could also be a good shout too!
26 Mar 2017 10:13:54
Been reading the posts on here about the lack of youngsters playing football. I have been a youth football coach for a lot of years. There are some terrific young players out there. There are still some very dedicated hard working lads. Part of the problem as I see it is the lack of scouting systems in Scottish football. I had one of the top boys club teams, regularly winning leagues and cups. I could count on 1 hand the amount of scouts at our games. So much potential being missed. I don't think the development of our young players is a priority for our clubs. Players can be got by throwing a few quid. Why put in the hard work in cold wet Scottish nights/ mornings/ afternoons 3-4 times a week. There's no dedication.
26 Mar 2017 11:11:02
True sandy if they do get picked by team 99 per cent of them get dropped which puts them off football
26 Mar 2017 11:16:37
I do agree with you there, but when kids are at pro youth and at a top boys quite often them and their parents think they have made it when they are the start of a long journey. Parental guidance has to be good and realistic the more grounded the support the better the chance. Also we must make them aware of the social problems in society drugs and drink are still the biggest downfalls for youngsters today we can't stop it but we must give them something that feels like the better option
26 Mar 2017 11:22:14
I think that is a problem aswell the kids who do want to play and are dedicated don't get a look in cause the finance isn't there for teams to spend proper time with them and give them the proper coaching or support them through the times where it is hard
23 Mar 2017 23:27:55
i am new to this site, first time poster. Have been reading them for months and makes for brilliant reading. Just a quick question, with caixinha managing Vladamir Weiss's old club, what do you think the chances of him coming back are? and would fellow bears welcome this move?
26 Mar 2017 09:11:05
I would welcome him back, he is as passionate about rangers as we are. Whether the cash is there to pay him is another matter. A lot of people think that weiss was poor during his spell with us. I have a more open mind about it, the lad was only 19 or something at the time and since he was here he has matured into a far more effective player. He was nothing short of outstanding for olympiakos in Greece.
26 Mar 2017 12:30:02
Has anybody seen him playing lately I haven't seen him since Olympiacos so don't have a clue what he is like now?
26 Mar 2017 13:17:51
He's recently signed a new contract at his club. i'd welcome him back though
26 Mar 2017 13:25:56
Hope so would would be a good first signing for pedro. Wouldn't rule it out either btw. Vlad and the big Ghana centre half would be 2 good signings from Qatar
27 Mar 2017 16:06:51
You seen this big ghanian centre half play I take it?
25 Mar 2017 17:39:04
I read a great article on Martin Buchan today in The Scotsman and I'm hoping a few posters can give their input into one of life's great mysteries about the demise of Scottish footballers. You would think the concept of the academies for youth players would by definition create better players than in the past but the glaring truth is that they don't. We don't get Buchans today, a Davie Cooper, nowhere to be seen. What happened?
25 Mar 2017 17:51:13
Here's what I think. I thinks it is a wider society problem. In continental europe the teens are out hanging around street corners eating and drinking whatever they can get their hands on but they are only learning what their parents taught them and it turn, teaching their own children. Its a cycle I don't know how we as a country can break. Probably best place to start would be schools. When I was at school (16 years ago now), we didn't have ex drug/ alcoholics in schools telling them how it has ruined their lives. I know this kind of stuff does happen in schools but I never saw it. Maybe that more often could be a good place to start.
25 Mar 2017 19:06:39
Big_ped, you make a lot of valid points my friend! I myself used to eat breathe and sleep football everyday and played the game at a decent level! I can remember when really young and down our local public park. my dad had to continually come down to the park, while it was turning dark, to hunt me up to the house! Loved the game so much and still do! The problem for the demise of young street footballers today is relatively simple! Technology and computer games! Youngsters are nowhere near as fit as we were as youngsters, from days gone by!
25 Mar 2017 19:28:09
Thanks mate. I meant to say continental teens are NOT lol. Funnily enough your point would have been my second port of call. I have no doubts that has a part to play in it somewhere along the line. I refer back to my own point when I think of a couple of lads I went to school with. One lad in particular. On a full house day at Ibrox, 50,000 fans could not take the ball off this guy. He was that good. Now the last time I saw him he was fished as a part and gave me the impression he would be lucky to see out the next 5 years. He will be 34 this year.
25 Mar 2017 20:29:46
I also think the game is pricing some kids out of it, andy mclaren was talking about this how some parents just can't afford it, in a way you can see why I've got two girls and now my boy each month between swimming and dancing and general crap i must be easy 150 a month add my boy into that well he is only a month old just now but football, boots etc it will hit 200 notes, look where the guys came from schemes etc i was a drumchapel boy until i was 14 and all we did was play football, technology also has a lot to answer but it has to be at grass roots
25 Mar 2017 22:48:59
I'm afraid a lot of it is, as much a society problem as, a social one - I played in the street and in the local field and park when at school. - That field now has a housing scheme and part of the m9 through it - anythingfrom 10-20 of us playing footy more or less every night - these days are gone now - as someone said technology and boredom has taken over - also our streets aren't a safe place for any kid nowadays - a bleak post but unfortunately true - think about it - when was the last time you saw a bounce game in your neighbourhood - not organised by a local team or anything - just kids out playing- cchanged days for the worse - Cambusbarron argylls, Stirling boys club, raploch hearts, beechwood all whites - all gone -
26 Mar 2017 04:31:29
The young ones are too busy saving the world killing zombies! Plus every street light you see has a sign no ball games too who can blame them
26 Mar 2017 08:55:20
I personally think there is a lot of reasons for it happening in Scotland particularly
I think Scottish football is stuck in the past at the min we want to move forward but anytime we try something different it gets ridiculed and mocked wether it is the DOF at rangers or cathros appointment at hearts or even that lot bringing in players like toure that could help the younger players
Also the obvious influx of foreign players and I know every most nations do the same but leagues like England have strong lower divisions for the local boys to learn there trade
Also no one held accountable when things go wrong the SFA is a mess as an organisation, project brace has some good ideas and I hope it works especially the reserve league but so did project 2022 that seems to have just been swept under carpet no mention of what happened to it
and finally the commitment isn't there although this is international this problem my friend I work with in England plays for a non league club and got signed for a league team beginning of this season but cancelled the contract because he didn't want to travel 3 hours 3 times a week so returned to his previous club saying all I want is enough money to have a few beers at the weekend
26 Mar 2017 13:05:58
BEARS! Would it not make sense financially to push the boat out and sign Gilmour by matching Chelsea's offer IF our coaches etc think this lad will be worth X million therefore recouping wage bill and profiting!
Please let me know if this thinking is rubbish OR if it is a sound investment? If we see this lad in nxt 2-3yrs being talked about down south being valued at crazy millions we'll have messed up again thoughts Bears?
26 Mar 2017 13:21:02
I think all of the points made are the reasons for the state of our national game now. I was born in 1951 and from the age of 3 all I wanted to do was kick a ball. Even into the 60s there were only 3 TV channels, no internet, no mobile phones.
You went to the pictures (not the movies! ) or hung about cafes and listened to music. All kids do now is play computer games or sit for hours on their phones speaking to other kids via social media.
There are many more choices now for people to pass their leisure time on a Saturday. Before I was old enough to go and follow Rangers my dad used to take me to Dens Park to watch Dundee and they would regularly get crowds of 25,000 against the like of Kilmarnock or Motherwell and full houses of 35,000 against the Old Firm.
Finally, there are some good young kids but they are not getting a chance. I've posted that many times on here and still Burt, Thompson, Hardie form the current crop haven't been given a chance.
26 Mar 2017 13:33:19
Just want to say I am tired of reading people saying we don't have any kids coming through now because they are all playing computer games.
By that it must mean that English, French, Dutch, German et al kids do not have access to computer games. it is down to coaching, lack of decent schools football and leagues.
27 Mar 2017 12:09:06
Well my little cousin was at a trial for braidhurst high school a few weeks ago, who do a sort of soccer school thing and there was over 50 kids and only 3 coaches, 2 of which sat on their phones. There isn't enough football teams about either and the big clubs don't want to give youth a chance.
25 Mar 2017 14:56:49
Does any 1 know if the fernando ricksen charity match getting shown on tv.
25 Mar 2017 17:38:59
England select won the match 3-2 Marvin Andrews . lovenkrandsi think with second crowd 4,700 not bad capacity is 5000 . most of them away into Blackpool get push-d . gallant pioneer has a sash bash (gers pub blackpool
25 Mar 2017 17:54:07
Sorry second was rangers supporter who donated £500 to play game
25 Mar 2017 12:47:53
On my way to watch the bears legends take on England at Fleetwood for Fernando, I suppose it puts things into perspective when you see what Fernando is going through. let's hope a good day is had by all and we can raise another serious amount of cash for a great player who will never be forgotten at Ibrox. people can say what they like about our club but it's days like this that make you proud to be associated with our magnificent club.
25 Mar 2017 16:53:50
Who scored the second for rangers?
24 Mar 2017 17:52:47
So dk says there will be agreement in place by summer with ashley and sd, the rumours are that sd could end up shirt sponsers call it mad but it could end up quite profitable, ashley is a horrible person we know that but is loaded and he'll throw everything at the legal cases surely it could be an amicable agreement until the shirt deal runs out somehow, anyway back to take my meds for daydreaming and looking at twitter lol.
24 Mar 2017 22:20:01
Come on Gareth and co.
24 Mar 2017 22:43:47
Let's be realistic, King and Ashley will never reach any agreement. Remember Ashley wanted King jailed. This isn't about money any more. King is spinning a yarn as per usual.
25 Mar 2017 09:13:17
Gor, why the intense dislike of DK (David King just to be clear! )?
You rubbish most things about the way he is running the club, disbelieve any statement and yet he is doing exactly what he said he would.
I'm sure that your GP (doctor) will prescribe happy pills if you describe your symptoms!
25 Mar 2017 09:22:27
He thought Ashley would be our saviour.
25 Mar 2017 10:49:32
He was saying the same on LSE when we were still trading on AIM.
25 Mar 2017 13:18:23
BR65, take off your blue tinted glasses. Don't need happy pills my friend just a nice wee Balvenie Double Wood! If you believe in King the career criminal then that's your choice. King who says he'll spend 30 million when in fact he personally has spent 3.8 million. King who uses our money from club 1872 to pay his legal fees. King who has fallen out with the rest of the board. It's only my opinion as its a friendly banter site but it's time for King to stand down.
25 Mar 2017 13:51:30
Who replaces king then? Ashley? Lambias? Easdales?
25 Mar 2017 16:23:08
If dave king was to be replaced as rangers chairman, then i would like brian kennedy or douglas park to be the new rangers chairman! Another very credible candidate would be current director john gilligan!
25 Mar 2017 16:31:18
Sorry. None of the above.
25 Mar 2017 18:43:15
I disagree with Cee regarding Kings replacement. Supercoopereleven's suggestions are a lot better.
24 Mar 2017 16:14:54
Nice to see Templeton finally get a contract. Surely a nice run in the first team and he stays injury free he can get back to his usual self. Was a cracking prospect a few years ago! Good luck
24 Mar 2017 18:55:40
Good on him and good luck. However do Hamilton not play on a plastic pitch? . That's what done his knees in the bottom leagues. He played one and missed 3!
24 Mar 2017 22:48:04
Hope he gets back to his best! Must be absolutely torment being injured so often!
25 mar 2017 16:28:26
just to reiterate what other bears have said! good luck wee temps! wish you all the very best of luck, in hopefully, relaunching your career! i was over the moon when we signed david templeton from hearts! he's definitely a talented winger! i always said that temps, was a "tanner baw player"! an old fashioned name for a old fashioned type of winger!
26 Mar 2017 13:07:30
A club in desperation just wasting a wage.
24 Mar 2017 15:40:22
have feeling if it was b. ferguson or j. brown that was coming to us it would have been agreed by now
24 Mar 2017 21:35:24
let him interview all the candidates first
24 Mar 2017 22:53:42
I'm hoping it's Alex Rae by far best candidate.
24 Mar 2017 22:55:55
Its got to be Barry for me
24 Mar 2017 23:42:50
How many are still to be interviewed?
24 Mar 2017 15:21:18
whats the chances of weiss coming to us? can anyone see it happening? The guy would love to come back and play for us! its what we need.
24 Mar 2017 21:34:23
Sure he just signed a new deal
25 Mar 2017 00:11:24
"Its what we need". Just what is that mate? As i said on a post re signing previous players the other day i really don't think he is the answer. He had brilliant debut but other that league cup final where he played quick free kick for winner i personally overall don't think he was oustanding. I don't recall anything else he done. I remember quite a few games where i was dissapointed in him . As i said before we should be signing players based on what they do on the park. Not because they constantly talk about us on twitter. I do like weiss but he really isn't the answer. We need somebody that performs more than once in every 10 games
25 Mar 2017 09:23:13
He was 21 when he played with us! him and McKay on the wings would be terrific.
25 Mar 2017 13:10:13
McKay has a lot of work to do, he is seriously underachieving considering his ability. Does not show it enough. Hopefully Pedro can get more out of him. I liked Weiss, before coming to us he was awesome, played without fear and care. I don't think we saw the same player and I don't think he is he same player as he was as a kid for Man City. However I wouldn't say no to him coming home.
26 Mar 2017 13:11:58
Cee he may have been 21 when he played for us but you are merely highlighting why we should not sign him. I.e he is of an age now where he should be at his peak yet he plays in sort of league where u go for one last pay day.
Compare his stats at rangers to for example gregg wylde. Not in a million years am i saying to sign wylde far from it but he probably contributed more in terms of assists etc than weiss and was similar age if not younger.
My point is weiss is vastly overrated based on fact he loves rangers. Its not rocket science we need to start signing players based on what they offer on the park not on social media posts.
26 Mar 2017 13:14:53
Dunno if we could get Weiss Transfer Fee plus wages could out price us think Pedro will have to shop wisely think king will give him anything between 5+8m? Thoughts Bears
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