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14 Oct 2018 11:22:19
We change of football subject here guys, but nonetheless, an important one, as its our country's fate, i'm speaking about here. Having read michael stewart's column, in this morning's sunday sun, i tend to agree with him, which i don't do often! He states that big alex mcleish shouldn't have been reappointed as the scotland manager and now he has, he should be removed, as scotland are going even further backwards, under his watch! I totally agree with him. Alex mcleish was a good manager years ago and was terrific as rangers manager! I really liked mcleish, but he's burnout as a manager now, IMO!

Ed, could you please run a poll for me, gauging who we would want as the scotland manager, if mcleish left his position? The manager choices being guus hiddink, jurgen klinsman, davie moyes, stevie clarke, neil lennon, derek
mcinnes, scott gemmill or any other! Cheers ED, would be much appreciated mate!

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Scotland Manager Poll

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14 Oct 2018 11:32:33
Supercooper

Why are you reading that dreadful excuse of a paper? After their truly disgraceful coverage of the Hillsborough disaster who in their right mind would entertain this piece of filth?

14 Oct 2018 11:57:00
Also should have an option for "couldnt really care" if you want to cover all bases!

14 Oct 2018 12:18:52
That’s a terrible paper to read Supercooper why read it?

14 Oct 2018 12:21:56
Important? Not to me. Literally couldn't care less.

14 Oct 2018 12:23:13
I'm not going to try and defend his tactics because they haven't been the best. However in terms of selection, who do we actually have who is better? In particular the defence!

Trying to fit Robertson and Tierney into the same defence doesn't work but do you play a CB just because that's his natural position?

We line up with Robertson, Tierney, Mulgrew and Souttar (or some other random) . Basically our whole defence is Left Backs.

Any one who comes in will have the same problem unless we as a nation start to produce some decent CB's.

Middle to front I feel we should have enough quality to beat teams like Israel and although I detest the guy an in form Leigh Griffiths should be starting ahead of the likes of Naismith. Watching him the other night, his positioning was terrible. Comes far too deep into the midfield.

14 Oct 2018 13:15:32
grant89 - scotlands managers of the time had no poblem playing Jardine and McGrain in the same back four, boh were right backs. Why not the same now or is it that McLeish is hell bent on playing a back 3. This would not be a problem if the players chosen played that system for their clubs.

14 Oct 2018 13:17:06
Other than the 2 goals against England that were brilliantly taken I don’t think Griffiths has done much playing for Scotland. Tbh I don’t think he really wants to play for Scotland and has alliegences across the water. He also took the huff after being dropped and refused to play in this round of fixtures. Are we that desperate that we want players to pick and choose when they play for us and childishly pull out when it suits? Fact of the matter the current Scottish team are full of average players. We have 1 genuine top quality player who is a left back and a very good keeper other than that no one else of quality required to qualify for tournaments.

14 Oct 2018 13:31:09
Bindo who is your 1 genuine quality left back, IMO we have 2.

14 Oct 2018 13:55:10
Whos the two then bluetoon?

14 Oct 2018 14:30:26
JYF - I'm not afraid to say Tierney and Robertson. Still awaiting Bindo giving his choice.

14 Oct 2018 14:30:46
Git a grip of yourselves! I read the article online and asked a question to everyone on here, regarding the scotland situation! I don't condone one bit what that newspaper done and reported, regarding the Hillsborough situation, which was a terrible tragedy! So guys don't ever suggest i do, just because i read an online article in that newspaper!

14 Oct 2018 14:39:03
my point would be blue that robertson has played in a european final tierney has been part of a defense that takes REGULAR humpings in europe, top quality my arse.

14 Oct 2018 15:04:31
Obviously it’s Robertson a guy playing for 1 of the best teams in Europe.

14 Oct 2018 15:09:00
Supercooper

No one said you do however I am merely pointing out that I’m surprised you read such a paper. A paper who reported their “truth” about that tragedy. Believe they accused Liverpool fans of peeing on police trying to help the victims and fans stealing from the dead. It’s just strange you are against someone like Naismith coming back (something I agree with) but are happy to read a paper that can print such things.

14 Oct 2018 15:13:53
Some on here unwittingly seem to be supporting the anti Mcleish originating from the dark side. Broonie persuaded the Thumb to pull out from squad and now they have persuaded Tierney to withdraw. All actions intended to undermine the current Scotland manager.

14 Oct 2018 15:23:29
Bluetoon

Robertson and I’m shocked you have to even ask. He is playing for one of the best teams in England and excelled last season in their journey to the Champions league final. As Jyf says what exactly has Tierney done to be considered such a great left back? Anytime he has come up against quality opposition in Europe he and his team have been taken apart. However if playing well against Hamilton, Partick Thistle and Dundee means you think he is a great player then fine. Maybe myself and Jyf aim a bit higher?

14 Oct 2018 15:23:46
Was McLeish really our best option? My question is - who would take it? Its a tough job being our national manager, fact is McLeish has been away from football for to long, i actually cringe listening to him now. It doesn't help when players like Griffiths spits the dummy out. Its a bad day when the players make excuses not to play for Scotland or is it they don't want to play for McLeish?

14 Oct 2018 15:42:25
TBH, not enamoured by Mcleish but TBH when you have **** to pick from your going to struggle. However to the point in hand, who else available or want the job?

14 Oct 2018 16:00:59
Bankie

It is a pity Brown didn’t pull out of more squads for all the use he was in a Scotland jersey. On McLeish I think the game has moved on from him and he isn’t what’s needed going forward.

14 Oct 2018 16:17:34
Bindo, because i read an article, doesn't mean i agree with the certain newspaper regarding the heartbreaking Hillsborough disaster! We all read articles written by certain outlets from time to time, who have written some very poor articles along the way! So don't bring anything like that into it,
when all i was trying to do was gauge what us scotland supporters felt, regarding michael stewart's article! Nothing more, nothing less,
nothing untoward! IMO you shouldn't have brought up anything to do with the tragic events at Hillsborough,
when i never mentioned it! No need whatsoever mate!

14 Oct 2018 16:29:18
Supercooper

I think the point being is that why even bother reading anything from that paper? Don’t think anyone is saying anything about you personally or about your character. The article in question was shocking and as a result a lot of people don’t read it especially in Liverpool. Let’s face it they aren’t slow in printing rubbish about us too.

14 Oct 2018 16:40:20
bluetoon - Tierney and Robertson are good players but I wouldn't quite class them in the same bracket as Jardine or McGrain.

On Griffiths I'm not saying pick the guy even though he doesn't want to play. I was just making a comment based on the past few seasons. He scored 40+ goals in our top national division (some will debate the quality there) but players such as Martin and Fletcher were chosen who were woeful.

But anyway if we could get 2 reasonably good quality centre backs then I think we would have a much better chance.

14 Oct 2018 17:15:16
Supercoop, believe you started off this thread referencing Michael Stewart’s negative comments on the Scotland manager. That is the same Michael Stewart who had 5 days training with us at Murray Park under Mcleish when Rangers manager. Need I say more. Mr Stewart carries a lot of baggage.

14 Oct 2018 17:57:01
Grant89

Chance of what?

14 Oct 2018 22:10:28
of actually winning some matches and maybe making a tournament.

15 Oct 2018 08:10:38
Tierney is top drawer lads, let's be honest. I take the point about him playing in a shoddy defence but Maldini wouldn't be able to do much with those muppets. Tierney will end up at Man U or similar in the near future.

15 Oct 2018 14:05:09
No he isn't. He is a decent player in Scotland and constantly found out in Europe. Man Utd player? Nearly spilled my coffee!

15 Oct 2018 18:27:18
Tierney is maybe top drawer in the current Scotland team standards. Unfortunately that's not saying much. A bit like saying you are the most sh*ggable out of the ugly sisters!

15 Oct 2018 19:45:09
Snell, can’t recall if that was Donald Trump and Joey Barton but think we get your point.

Review Of The Day 14th October 2018

14 Oct 2018 07:29:13
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th October 2018

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13 Oct 2018 22:21:01
Can we end the farce over the Legend that is Gazza!
If a member refuses to go to a event then there is a mental disorder going on here
Let them keep the so called
Hall of Fame
We have Ibrox an that’s all our Legends need
Gazza is too good for it anyway 👍.

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14 Oct 2018 09:21:40
The thing here is, geo, what is the criteria that has to be met to get into the hall of "fame". It obviously can't be purely football ability, they are saying as much by blocking one of the best players ever to have graced a Scottish football park, so there must be more expected of anyone hoping to join this "elite" club.

Is it morals they are looking at? If so what is the cut off point? Billy Bremner for instance had his Scotland career cut short after being banned from ever playing for us again by the sfa, Jimmy Johnstone was an alcoholic thief but both fully deserving of the tile "Scottish football legends". Should we now be going through the list and weeding out the morally corrupt that are in there?

Very few alcoholics come without baggage! Who were the ones that threatened a boycott and are they man enough to explain their stance, perhaps open themselves and their lives up to scrutiny? I doubt it.

P.S. to our tim trolls, I was in no way having a dig at Jinky or Bremner for that matter, I'm just pointing out that they have the same frailties as the rest of us mere mortals. Both players were true legends.

14 Oct 2018 11:06:16
Jyf. The most morally corrupt are the SFA who exerted the pressure to reverse the decision about Gazza. The sooner that lot are replaced the better.

14 Oct 2018 11:58:19
I agree DOIGER, Will anyone be man enough to stand up and say "it was me that blocked Gazzas induction" opening himself up to scrutiny, I doubt it. If he has good reason then tell us the reasons and open up the debate of who can and cannot be inducted and if any of the previous inductees do not come up to scratch then remove them from the list. The press are as bad always saying "the sfa" or just "someone" blocked the nomination, they should be telling us who it was.

13 Oct 2018 18:12:05
We get two Chelsea superstars and the Tims get Jenna Marbles (who? no idea mate!)

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13 Oct 2018 22:04:42
Get 2 Chelsea superstars! Hahaha.

14 Oct 2018 01:07:56
oh timmy

still trawling at the famous

fail 😂.

14 Oct 2018 13:38:39
Don’t know about trawling but I’m still laughing!

14 Oct 2018 15:42:12
In what world is Cesc Febregas not a superstar in world football? Granted he’s not Moussa Dembelle. Even after years of difficulties you lot still live in the shadow of the Bears!

14 Oct 2018 22:52:05
I suppose the 2 Chelsea superstars are a step up from Andy Cameron and John smeaton hahaha! So come on tell us all how u got them then? Dying to know lol.

15 Oct 2018 11:07:00
Have you not seen the **** the Celtic video?

Singing follow follow. I’d say that puts them firmly in our corner 🤣🤣.

15 Oct 2018 20:56:00
In your corner! What corner? Hahaha! I’m sure they’ll make all the difference come may time when we’re lifting number 8! U can look back and say, remember those 2 superstars sang a song and were in our corner! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤣.

13 Oct 2018 17:37:05
JD came out and said the reason the tops came off website is that they have sold out and don't want to take orders they may not have the stock in quick enough to give to customers.

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13 Oct 2018 18:42:21
We’re did u c this? There is not any of the new Hummel kits are training gear on jd sports website.

13 Oct 2018 18:55:43
Saw it in the Scottish Sun website, so will take with a pinch of salt.

goo.gl/suggw6

13 Oct 2018 20:04:40
its correct guys, but don't let the truth get in way of a good conspiracy from the dark side.

14 Oct 2018 08:29:55
So it isn't dodgy daves fault? Hmmm!

14 Oct 2018 10:31:45
If you believe that you will believe anything banking! My mate son works in jd in ayr and says the stockroom has got plenty of rangers strips they were told to stop selling them. Why nothe sell the ones you have in stock if it's only a stock issue they would sell through what they have while waiting on new stock.

14 Oct 2018 13:13:49
What a load of tripe you talk on jd twitter they can't supply demand also I work in Inverness jd where here is 0 stock of anything rangers and awaiting delivery to restock hummel underestimated the demand and didn't make enough to be sold it's pretty simple to go on and check this out if u actually look and stop listening to papers news and trolls if u hear a rumour do digging before you post it to verify your crazy crap you post.

14 Oct 2018 15:07:39
Trust me ayr have tops I stockroom. Bit funny they "can't supply demand" right when they are back in court with SD. Some of you on here are proper gullible it's pretty clear it's another board disaster.

14 Oct 2018 20:46:15
Just because they have some stock in Ayr doesn't change anything. If I order the strip on JD website they aren't going to go the the Ayr branch and deliver it from there. If they say they have no stock that means they have ko stock in their central warehouse.

14 Oct 2018 23:17:29
So why aren't they selling what's been REMOVED from shop floor? Because they aren't allowed legally, nothing to do with having no stock and all to do with court case. Stop toeing the party line snd and open your eyes man, Ashley has stopped kit sales again.

13 Oct 2018 17:30:02
Mcliesh is woeful, i made my mind up on him years ago when he had prso on one wing and Stevie Thompson on the other wing crossing balls into the box for novo - the shortest guy on pitch. And he managed to piss off Lovenkrands and made his mind up to leave for Newcastle.

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13 Oct 2018 17:44:40
Gerforlife, who would you want as the scotland manager, instead of alex mcleish mate?

13 Oct 2018 18:38:09
Mcleish was a brilliant rangers manager up against a vey good Martin O’Neil side with basically no money to spend.

13 Oct 2018 19:24:31
so you would be happy with mcleish as northern ireland manager would you ulster lol don't think so.

13 Oct 2018 19:48:07
Absolutely not he’s yesterday’s man that’s why no club wanted him! I was defending him as rangers manager mate were I think he done a wonderful job but that was years ago.

13 Oct 2018 20:31:09
McLeish's reign as Scotland manager has been piss poor. He's not been helped by having to play friendlies in south America. Poor individual performances, certain players taking the huff. Not sure guardiola or klopp could help us!

13 Oct 2018 20:34:01
That is true but he did have half of the Dutch national team. The squad that he inherited was a very strong team . The same as he got when he took the Scotland job the first time after sir Walter had put Scotland back on the map . I don't think mcleish know what he is doing and the FA are worse, Scottish football has to change, they make Scottish football a laughing stock and the gazza treatment is shocking and they should all be fired.

14 Oct 2018 07:43:35
What about the sfa having the balls to go and at least ask a manager of the ilk of guss hiddink, if he'd be interested, in becoming the scotland manager! Wish these useless fatcats,
would show a bit of vision and ambition! What about a scotland management team of guus hiddink and scott gemmill? Would be terrific for the eventual step up, for scott gemmill, learning beside someone like hiddink, don't you think guys?

14 Oct 2018 10:35:51
Hiddink is over 70 years old, managing the china under 21s. He's had a good managerial career but can't see him being the answer to be honest. McLeish hasn't been great but I think the players do have to take some of the flak. Simple things like the ability to pass the ball? Certain players deciding if and when they will play.
I don't see any obvious manager to be honest. David moyes?

15 Oct 2018 08:13:31
He was an awful Rangers manager, have we all forget ten Hamed Namouchi?

13 Oct 2018 17:24:15
The SFA are a total embarrassment over the Gazza hall of fame scenario.
On football ability alone he should be inducted easily.
If you want to exclude him over his off field issues then are the SFA going to go back through the hall of fame and exclude others with indiscretions?
Rumours abound one SFA board member was refusing to go to the ceremony because of Gazza’s nomination.
Sounds to me this person has an anti English, anti Rangers agenda!

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13 Oct 2018 23:52:29
if he doesn't get inducted and the "health issues" weren't raised by himself then they've descriminated against him in an illegal way and will see court action! the people in the hall of fame deserve to be there and will remain.

what we need to ask is whose agenda was served by this course of events? it's made Scotland look stupid and ignorant!

surely whoever did this should be expelled from the sfa?

13 Oct 2018 17:16:37
Surely if Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un can be nominated for a Nobel peace prize Gazza should be allowed into the hall of fame. If only the SFA lived by their own standards - only the janny would be left.

As for Scotland last night, wrong formation, wrong players, wrong manager, correct goalie. 532 in defence meant we were light in midfield and they kept picking up the second ball in the final third. We ain't blessed with much with regards our talent pool. Just pick 11 fit players and ask them to attack the opposition for 90 minutes and see what happens, worth a shot nothing else has worked in 20 years!

Also sick of the non stories RE: our Croatian/ Albanian players. There is no fall out, there is no conspiracy, their is NO story, they are a squad of players and will all have a part to play over the season.

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13 Oct 2018 20:41:37
Wrong players? Who would you have had playing? Me? I'd have had Forrest instead of russell. The inability to pass the ball to a teammate, isn't the managers fault, or the formation.

14 Oct 2018 07:09:44
How could any Manager pick O’Donnell? He has to be the worst I’ve seen in a Scotland jersey which is saying something. Passing, control and positional sense were appalling. Seen better Sunday league players.

13 Oct 2018 13:23:47
We in this site can all talk and guess until we are blue in face concerning Fatboy Ashley and the grip he has on Rangers finances, but until someone in the know comes out and tells the fans exactly what is happening we will always be in the dark. Men like Ashley doesn’t care one iota about the game of football, he is just a fat cat business man and asset stripper, Rangers, Newcastle United, just assets to be stripped and move on, I just wish he was finished with Rangers and moved on, the guy is a bad dream.

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13 Oct 2018 13:02:37
The Ginger Maldini receiving excellent reviews with both U21s and in the league.

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14 Oct 2018 04:11:21
Who cares now he don't play for us. And was terrible for us. not as good as Goldson katic ir worral so wouldn't be anywhere near our 1st 11.

14 Oct 2018 07:11:16
I really don’t know why people go on about him he was rank rotten. Who cares how he is doing now he has left us and we have better defenders now.

 


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