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24 Mar 2017 12:31:06
anyway, back to the player talk. surely there's a huge chance weiss will return to ibrox after constantly saying he wants to come back and caixinha is a huge fan of his playing him regularly at this last club where weisss was on terrific form? must be a chance of this happening? would we be happy with have weiss back?
24 Mar 2017 12:44:09
would be a great signing.
24 Mar 2017 13:02:28
We couldn't afford him.
24 Mar 2017 14:28:51
Would love to see him back, and he obviously still has the Gers in his heart. Issue is he's still got a couple years left to run on what I'd assume is a hefty contract, so he would not come cheap.
24 Mar 2017 15:22:55
as much as i am happy with Pedro so far if we can beat motherwell then killie and Aberdeen away I will be delighted as our away form has been abysmal, it would close the points gap and could then look forward to the cup game a bit more assured.
24 Mar 2017 17:17:43
Noticed the manager has a few trialists at Murray Park this week playing in yellow and blue. Hopefully at least one of them will make it.
24 Mar 2017 17:44:27
Do you have any names of the trialists?
25 Mar 2017 13:06:43
looks like a couple of big old fashioned centre half types
24 Mar 2017 11:09:17
Ronnie Rd. Not saying you have to care if Rangers is in the blood or not, but surely it helps. Even Pedro has recognised this as he is trying to recruit someone of this ilk as the Rangers number 3.
24 Mar 2017 10:11:59
For all that criticize Dave King surely returning us to an operating profit for the first time in how long only underlines the fact he is doing a decent job, albeit small i'd rather be in this position than signing players at the expense of uncontrollable debt.
24 Mar 2017 11:02:48
Totally agree, I don't think how he has handled some situations has been ideal but if you look at the progress the club has made since he has taken over its been all but positive. Including on the park, We might not be contenders but that was always going to be a tough ask this season. Let's hope pedro gets a decent budget and can bring in some players to challenge the smelly lot next season.
24 Mar 2017 11:13:32
King hopefull that some form of resolution can be made with Ashley in order for a new kit launch next season -
24 Mar 2017 11:14:54
Fully agree and the board reflects the culture of the club. There are lots of critics of course and the delusional wanting middle eastern or Chinese billionaires taking over but we're in good hands with good common sense thinking and realistic ambitious targets.
24 Mar 2017 22:06:07
Whst is the hype about operating profit. The club made basically the same loss as this time last year. Lost £288k in 2015 to december, losr £238k to December 2016. The operating profit has improved by around £800k which is good but other costs of around £570k are just ignored. So another loss. So next season disposal of players will cost. Better players will cost. If Rangers don't qualify for Europe there will be a massive loss next season unless the Ashley problem is solved.
24 Mar 2017 23:47:09
Smoke and mirrors, season tickets anyone? Still can't see past the pr at this time of year!
23 Mar 2017 15:59:40
I see rangers have announced a small profit for the six months up until December. I must admit I'm suprised but I'm very pleased! Considering Mike Ashley still has us cornered. It's another small step to getting back where we belong. A European spot is crucial now though!
23 Mar 2017 17:43:24
Great news as I think I heard Ashley is costing us something like 9million a year from the retail. So if could get that sorted and with European football coming next season onwards we are in pretty good shape. Don't understand all the people who slate king and the bored tho of course I would like to see bigger investment on the playing side but we haft to be patient and in two years I think king and co have done a great job considering the mess we were in when they took over.
23 Mar 2017 19:30:40
Great news, albeit a very small profit but we are going in the right direction. With pedro getting the team playing some great stuff last week and now news of a profit, things are looking not too bad at all. God please let king shaft the fat man in court 🙏
23 Mar 2017 18:31:27
23 Mar 2017 22:12:59
Yep. the first line in the daily rebel tells you all you need to know. "Unaudited accounts". so basically fabricated figures to paint a picture of all being well. The pr guys have played a blinder to get the rags to depict this as a positive story
23 Mar 2017 22:15:15
Try and ignore that word unaudited Cuillin, I don't think our board wouldn't lie about profits given what we have been through.
Very pleased to see the word profit used in the same sentence as our club, long may it continue.
24 Mar 2017 06:42:46
Rafbob, with them being so keen to get the results out, it may mean the next set have the bad figures in them. I hope not of course.
24 Mar 2017 11:42:23
Very little understanding on here. The issuing of unaudited half-yearly accounts is standard practice, so it's okay for everybody else but when our club does it there's something dodgy going on or the figures are 'fabricated'!
24 Mar 2017 13:42:22
Glad to have a man with your knowledge of unaudited accounts to help us understand more, wee-ecky. I for one am very grateful.
23 Mar 2017 15:49:22
Remembering today the greatness of Davie Cooper. A huge talent and wish we had someone in our side today with even one 5th of his ability.
Davie Cooper, Legend!
23 Mar 2017 19:26:02
Loved watching Cooper, as a Celtic fan he was the one Rangers player i would try and copy, out on the old red ash on a baltic Saturday morning. Wonderful, wonderful player.
23 Mar 2017 22:26:10
I remember visiting my grandad up at Craigend and we had a kick about on one of those pitches, not best for sliding around on from what I remember!
23 Mar 2017 21:15:37
Used to meet Davie Cooper in the Avonbridge hotel in Hamilton with my big mate. Singed our cup final tickets when he was in with Jimmy Nic. He also came to my old Primary School in Hamilton and gave us some football skills session and gave us all a Rangers lapel badge.
True gentleman and my hero.
You only see this type of genius rarely. That free kick against Aberdeen quality. Bandy legs did not get near it even on the way out.
I am sure god will be playing DC wide left in the heavens 11.
24 Mar 2017 08:40:00
Red ash pitch, mitre moldmaster fitbaw, freezing Saturday morning leaving a frosty glaze on the pitch, both managers combing the pitch to remove the odd bits of broken gingey bottles. Glesga. What a time to be alive.
24 Mar 2017 10:22:19
Getting skelped in the legs with the mitre then your mum scrubbing out the bits of grit ahhh memories lol
24 Mar 2017 11:53:00
Vote4Pedro that time you are referring to on the ask parks and the broken bottles produced some of the best Scottish talent in the last 50 years. No one plays football anymore other than arrange games with boys clubs etc.
We used to meet up every Sunday at 1.00, 20 lads jumper down and off we went. During the week we were out every night with a ball practicing our skills. The hunger has gone. The mental boys no longer have the football genius.
Now they just appear disruptive and badly behaved and lack the skills. I run a team of kids under 10s we have outstanding kids in a team of 20.
Surprise Surprise the 4 in question are from a council estate and have ability desire skill and hunger to succeed. They do take a ball out on the streets most nights. The some of the kids from more affluent backgrounds don't practice, moan constantly and mess about at training and are being constantly asked to listen.
I would have thought this would be fairly typical of modern society and a mixture of kids. Back when I was at the boys club the coaches would have gave you a shouting or a clip round the lug and told to pay attention.
24 Mar 2017 15:56:52
11TheBest I was genuinely reminiscing about the good ol days. Some great memories. Broken gingeys added a bit of glamour to the affair. No jumpers down for us I'm afraid, partly because our red ash parks had goals (no nets) and we were scared that somebody would bump our jumper. I'm not sure I agree with you regarding loss of talent. I'm pretty sure red ash parks had nothing to do with it. If you're looking for something to blame for that then look no further than media and technology.
24 Mar 2017 17:22:50
Being one myself, i find that its the boys from council estates that have the greater need to do well, a point to prove against society. And most will have had a good working class attitude engraved into their DNA. Its the boys from the same estates from broken homes that our game by passes, be it single parentage, unemployment or all manner of issues, they are simply being priced out of the game, they can't afford the fees or kit, its utterly shameful. This Country has lost more talent that way than it'll ever produce. Its a scandal that young lads can't get to kick a ball about because of fees.
24 Mar 2017 22:59:52
Gents this has been an interesting conversation maybe it reflects society in Scotland today. Me and a few of my mates took a trial for the Accies way back in 1983 unfortunately non of us made it but we played till mid 30s. now coaching my boys team and it feels great to give something back to a game I love. We have a couple of kids that I would love the Rangers to look at but who know what the scouting system is like at Ibrox
I feel like drinking two of our kids down and asking rangers to take a look.
23 Mar 2017 14:55:12
Looking to get my hands on the Orange away kit 2002/ 2003. Anyone know where I can find one? Medium Mens.
23 Mar 2017 16:08:20
23 Mar 2017 20:11:58
Classic football kits uk mate
23 Mar 2017 13:08:17
In regards to my last post what I'm saying is we need to start again the players we have are just not good enough and if u think any different u have been watching another team playing if we want to improve we need to start again because English lower league players will never challenge the rotten mob I honestly can't believe some off the rubbish people post get real and face facts we are not good enough as for keeping Miller I did say for one more season prob been our best player at times this year and yes he is 37 what does that say for the rest let's start again and build a better team we deserve better English lower leauge players won't do it.
23 Mar 2017 13:57:52
There's an argument that lower english stuff would compete no worries in our league i think your being disrespectful, what about vardy or ian wright or other guys that came from lower leagues, not good enough i don't think so, we don't and shouldn't have buckets of money to throw at it unless you want us back where we were, we have to be careful not spunk 30 mil up the wall just to compete with them, we don't have the cash to replece, no shirt revenues, pedro will bring people in and hopefully compliment what we have, a bit of management style can do wonders for players
23 Mar 2017 15:26:22
these players are well better than the rest of scottish football just tactics where wrong all season give these guys a chance.
i would however get a new spine of a team
23 Mar 2017 16:45:50
I think you'll find both celtics best players this season were both signed from the English championship. Nondisgrace in shopping in that market as it's one of the most competitive leagues around.
24 Mar 2017 11:43:11
It's not the shopping in lower leagues that's the problem, it's just the people we sent for the shopping came back with damaged goods.
24 Mar 2017 16:50:41
Loved the posts about the old days. In my days if you had Hotspur boots you were rich. A ball was a Bladder. I played in goal with no nets everytime the ball went past you had to run about a hundred yards to retrieve it .
22 Mar 2017 21:48:59
I see fraser Aird best player on the park tonight for Canada usual pish we let all these prom young player go. just one of a long list of young talent that has been let go.
23 Mar 2017 00:11:15
I really don't think it's anything to get upset about. He played well against probably the worst Scotland side in 15 years. I could of scored against Scotland tonight. I did like Aird when he was with us but we should be aiming higher than him now.
23 Mar 2017 00:34:42
Having a decent game for a third-rate country against a fourth-rate country is hardly a sign that we've let a real player go. He's not even playing in the SPL.
23 Mar 2017 09:47:01
Agree wee-ecky, i don't know why we all seem to get so nostalgic when someone leaves when they got pelters when they were here. he wasn't / isn't good enough end of!
23 Mar 2017 09:57:43
Fraser Aird was rubbish at Gers hence he left. He plats fir Falkirk which just about sums up how bad our international team is. Also total shite. The celtic minded SFA have kept Chesny in a job and basically consigned us to the bin. Good luck to Fraser he isn't the first or will be the last to leave a club and find success elsewhere. Stop whinging and support the players we have.
23 Mar 201710:15:36
How does Chesney still have a job!? He is worse than levien.
23 Mar 2017 10:34:11
He was up against Wallace mind you so was an easy night for him lol.
23 Mar 2017 10:37:51
Id just like to take a wee moment to remember Super Cooper. A true Rangers great.
23 Mar 2017 15:27:46
i can't remember aird getting pelters when he was here mind you that because i wasnt on this site back then lmao.
23 mar 2017 15:49:16
here here jls! davie cooper was one of my all time favourites! what a footballer with a world class left peg! i cried my eyes out when i heard the sad news that dc had sadly passed away at the tender age of 39,way back in 1995! gone but will never be forgotten! we will never forget this magician of a footballer that we know by the name of, "super cooper"!
23 Mar 2017 19:21:56
I was only 11 when Coop passed but can remember clear as day. i must have watched his video about 100 times. what a player.
23 Mar 2017 19:57:30
It happens with a lot of players James, ie, Adam being the obvious 1.
23 Mar 2017 18:31:06
Well said sc11
In my eyes the greatest ever and not recognised by the club he loved
23 Mar 2017 20:37:34
Loved Coop but King Brian for me has to be the greatest.
23 Mar 2017 20:31:04
Rather than being Critical of Aird and players like young Murdoch, maybe we should save our criticism for Warburton for not giving them an opportunity to prove themselves yet bringing in other players that haven't exactly been brilliant!
22 Mar 2017 14:10:43
Reading again about ex players coming back so Bears if you could bring back 1 player still playing and i'm not really for bringing anybody back but just to get some feelers out who would it be 1 player only?
Steven Davis : Southampton.
22 Mar 2017 14:19:06
What about young jamie ness
22 Mar 2017 14:28:18
Jamie Ness? is that the boy who plays at Scunthorpe? injury prone too? Think i'll pass on that one.
Steven Davis - YES!
22 Mar 2017 14:46:32
Not a huge fan of players returning but I would love to see Nikica Jelavic return. He was outstanding and I can't remember him having a poor game for us.
22 Mar 2017 14:49:16
Would love Steven Davis back. What a footballer and gentlemen.
22 Mar 2017 15:27:20
Would take any of Davis, Adam, Jelavic, Weiss back in a heartbeat. Would also consider Boughy or Bartley purely because we're desperate for a CB, but hope PC has a better shortlist!
22 Mar 2017 15:494:19
Davis all day long for me too. Very underrated player in the EPL. A class act.
22 Mar 2017 15:58:30
I agree with your choice totally bongo! Stevie davis for me (if only)! We can but dream mate! He's a smashing midfielder!
22 Mar 2017 16:25:16
Bougherra has retired, superb tho
22 Mar 2017 16:58:56
Aluko and Steven Davis
22 Mar 2017 17:37:45
Agree bongo Steve Davis class act.
22 Mar 2017 18:18:57
Aluko and Davis
22 Mar 2017 18:27:07
Steve Davis all day long, class midfielder
22 Mar 2017 19:50:31
22 Mar 2017 21:00:55
What about Ross McCormack?
22 Mar 2017 21:07:40
23 Mar 2017 00:28:52
Butcher and Gough for me. even now they would probably be better than what we currently have 🙏
They were two amazing players.
22 Mar 2017 23:25:25
At a push aluko but generally wouldn't be a fan of taking any back. Purely on basis that your talking about players from pre five years ago. Most will either be in thirties or too expensive or both. Re weiss i am undecided. His debut came on as a sub v hibs i think and looked brilliant and created two late goals.
Beyond that his only real effective contribute was quick free kick for winner v celtic in league cup final. I fear his love for rangers is what attracts fans to him. Bulk of his career since has been spent in big last pay day pre retirement leagues. Question . helliday is a fan . does that make him a player? He certainly is not. We need players that do it on the park not social media
23 Mar 2017 05:14:03
I wouldn't have jelavic his head dropped in the last few months he was with us he wasn't interested and pushed for a move away
Would take Davis back due too the fact he pushed Southampton into paying a fee for him and aluko as this guy payed his own money too come play for us
23 Mar 2017 13:33:43
Im with you on that 1 mate. i don't think weiss was half as good as a lot of fans think. i think its the way he took to the club that the fans love about him.
23 Mar 2017 15:30:22
ross mcormack, steven davis, naisy, weiss and aluko would all improve our team. none of whom we could afford
22 Mar 2017 10:51:16
What about Allan McGregor at the end of the season. He is on loan at Cardiff or Swansea from Hull. Was a very good keeper and if the knee is ok he could do us a turn.
22 Mar 2017 11:10:17
Aye if he's willing to pay in. I wouldn't let him anywhere near ibrox.
22 Mar 2017 11:19:01
Totally agree mate this deserter should not be allowed anywhere near Ibrox again. He showed his true colours when he jumped ship.
22 Mar 2017 15:37:21
oh please do shut up you are like petulant children honestly.
the guy is a deserter because he didn't want to play in the lower leagues?
naw mate i am rangers through and through but i would have left aswell after spending my whole life trying my hardest to play at the highest level in the game just to lose my best years toiling in the lower leagues of scottish football for a quarter of the pay i was on, no chance.
i would have liked it if we could have got money for them but the truth of the matter is we would never have seen a penny of that anyways so holds no baring.
22 Mar 2017 15:45:33
Fair play lads ill take that as a no then
22 Mar 2017 15:44:00
Allan mcgregor, kyle lafferty, stevie naismith, steven whittaker and co made their bed and sure as hell can lie in it! Don't want any of these anywhere near glasgow rangers, ever again!
22 Mar 2017 15:51:34
Behave, he shouldn't be signed because he's 35 and foderingham is a good keeper. If Mcgregor was in his prime we would be lucky to have him.
22 Mar 2017 17:17:43
I would take naismith any day. Take the club that we all love out the equation and put yourself in a normal workplace then make Charlie green, Mike Ashley, Craig white and Stockbridge your gaffer's who'd stay then, me I'd probably be doing time for them right now. At the time I was pissed off with them but their careers are short dropping down and putting up with the dodgy dealings and under handedness that went on you can't blame anyone it doesn't matter what we think they were the ones who had to work there. We can support take pride in the achievements and as much as we feel we won this and that realistically we are bystanders that cheer on and the players are the winners they give us leagues and cups which we take credit for so we should cut them sone slack when it goes Tits up due to financial irregularities and bad management and not the bad form of those players who had played their hearts out gave us league titles when we couldn't afford to buy any new players and had a first team squad of 14 they boys produced. Supercooper 11 like you I supported the last management even when it hurt me and I knew it was gone I supported because I love this club and I believe we stand by our own so those players you don't want back won in my eyes are one of our own unless you have a few league winners medals at home we don't know about it was them not the supporters that won titles and took us to cup finals, the other day you were slagging King off the guy has stabilised our club I believe in him too and not that long ago you were sticking up for him to as I used to agree with most things you said well could agree with those rumours mate as there was some severe wild arsed rubbish in there, but don't turn all negative when we turn it around we will need quality there and if that quality is someone returning embrace it if they are good enough for us.
22 Mar 2017 17:33:43
James stirling, nobody is saying that allan mcgregor should have been wanting to play for us in the lower leagues! He could have at least stayed and got the club he professes to love (my rectum) a transfer fee, no matter how small a fee it was! They would have still been leaving if they wanted to after all! So my friend i'm also rangers through and through and i would have differed from you if i had the privilege, of playing for glasgow rangers! I would at the very least IF i were to leave at all, wanted to get the club as much of a transfer fee as they could, for me! You james stirling have got a different view on rangers through and through, to me my friend! They deserters couldn't wait to jump from a very special football club, that was very good to them! Try and understand that, will you?
22 Mar 2017 17:43:09
If the club sold them how much would have walked along with all the investment that Charlie Green drummed up and paid himself
22 Mar 2017 18:03:47
Well said supercoop.
22 Mar 2017 20:46:31
I don't hold any grudges against the lads that left. deserters? I disagree, with hindsight I'm sure they probably wish they'd hung about for nominal transfer fees but remember this, any money that came in would've gone to the crooks running our club at the time just like the 21 million we raised in shares and would've disappeared into another black hole.
They were all happy to take huge wage reductions for long enough and helped us win several trophies so I for one hold no grudges.
22 Mar 2017 19:51:10
Doesn't matter Gary, It's the principal of the thing. Do it the right way, same as guys like Bocanegra, Edu, Goiain etc. These guys behaved impeccably
22 Mar 2017 23:51:51
The players from that era are now to old for what we need. However with regards to those who say the players worked hard and couldn't be expected to play in lower divisions.
Firstly i give u juventus. Fair enough they went down one division but if a world class player like del piero can compromise there career i sure players from a third rate country can.
Secondly why not tupe over and earns fees 4 club. Obviously in hindsight money for latter would have went to green et al but that wasnt known at time. At end of the day we need to look to the future.
Find new stars rather than look to yesteryear. Take right back for example. Hutton or Whittaker what would they bring now. Up front, lafferty, wasnt great, always likely to be sent off, boyd been there 4 second spell and failed, naismith. Lpved him as a player but would not go near him. His own stupidity lead to injury that started downfall of that season.
23 Mar 2017 09:00:14
I agree that we should be looking forward to younger hungrier players than those that left us mate.
I just disagree with others that class them as "traitors".
Also with regards to your Juventus comparison, as u say they only went down 1 division and were back fighting for Scudetto's 12 months later. Del Piero, Nedved and Buffon were all in there 30's too so although it was commendable that they stayed, I don't think it is comparable with our situation. I think Parma got put down to Serie C, I'd be interested to hear how many of there assets on the pitch hung about.
23 Mar 2017 11:50:35
I have had my differences of opinion with super cooper however he is spot on with these players. They did desert the club and showed no loyalty at all. No one knew at the time what was going on at the club and these players could have easily negotiated small transfer fees for them to leave the club. They would have still got their moves and they would have left on good terms. They all chose to jump ship and didn't care if the club survived. The audacity of Naismith to hold a press conference and say the club died how can any Rangers fan forgive that?
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