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11 Dec 2017 06:17:06
Why is Stevie Clarke not in the radar?

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11 Dec 2017 08:33:59
Because A he has just signed a new contract at Kilmarnock and B he comes from a family of Celtic fans and I also think we will struggle to get any decent manager in the door or even player who the hell would want to join us we are becoming a joke I have been a huge supporter of King and Co stepping in when no other Rangers people wanted to dig deep ridding us of all those charlatans who occupied our boardroom forcing Ashley out I am thankful for that but the last two managers were a disaster money poured down the drain and the search for a third has been nothing short of an embarrassment and as for their last statement to the media they should hang their heads in shame so a guy decides he doesn't want to work at Rangers and they think it's ok to openly attack the guy in a statement that is not the Rangers I have grown up supporting and I've been a season ticket holder and shareholder for over thirty five years it was childish classless I've no idea who we should go for as they will no they weren't first choice Murty? Not for me we need a man of stature doesn't need to come from a Rangers back ground just some one you respect and look to when he walks into a room or onto a training pitch but who that is I've no idea also who the hell would want to be in charge of this team if Celtic are on the verge of ten in a row so they would need a budget and not a pittance we need three or four quality players no more journey men we have a team full of them now we need the ball players the guys who can do something different open up defences for us look at Sat it wasn't pretty so do we have the money? Wed will be a very hard game no Jack no Dorrans the game will be won or lost in midfield but saying all that our board need to put their hands up and admitt they got that embarrassing statement all wrong maybe King needs to look at his position on the board and one other thing please get that Trainer out of there our PR department is a shambles

11 Dec 2017 09:14:21
That is one of the most pessimistic pieces of bs I've ever read there were plenty who have put themselves forward and plenty more will. There were and still are plenty of us that didn't want mcinnes anyway yet one snub and the sky is falling down. Let's look at this celtic have won one more game than us, they have drawn a lot lately, our loses were avoidable but due to the heads of the players being down after all that had happened and all they hear (most of which is nonsense) from the press, the sending off that shouldn't have been in the hibs game, yet still on current form of both us who are by in large winning most of our games at the moment and celtic who are having drawn more than they'd like to we are in spitting distance and going by the fixtures actually be ahead of them come the old firm. So try and stay positive give yourself a wee slap in the face if you start to believe the negativity, look at the table look at the upcoming matches for us and all about us and realise this league is there to be won and if you don't want to believe that then what is the point in even caring enough to come on here and spout nonsense. Let's face it we are above hibs, hearts, Aberdeen and not far off celtic but do you hear the BBC, waddell, parks, Jackson and the likes talking of them being in crisis, an embarrassment, a joke or an absolute disgrace, no they hate us because they fear that when we get back and take our place at the top that they may have to write something good about us or they may even lose their jobs. and never forget it hated for being the best carrys no shame, hating people or teams purely because of their own success speaks more about the hater than the team.

11 Dec 2017 09:31:28
Well said Gary, we have to keep believing, onwards and upwards

11 Dec 2017 10:05:34
thinkaboutit that gave me a sore head reading it mate. Few full stops wouldn't go a miss.

11 Dec 2017 10:35:04
Well said Gary75. I'm sick to death of the BBC's bias against Rangers and blatantly biased edited highlights on Sportscene. As for the Daily Rag, it hardly merits mentioning. You are right. Had we even won one of the games against Hamilton or Dundee recently we'd be a couple of points behind. We MUST beat Hibs on Wednesday, no doubt about that, but celtic have away trips to Hearts and Dundee and have to face Aberdeen at home before the Old Firm match on 30th December. We should have Dorrans and Jack back for the last three or four games of the year and perhaps Morleos has got his scoring boots on again! Keep positive Bears and stop talking our team down!

11 Dec 2017 12:52:34
Have been saying steve clarke for weeks now

11 Dec 2017 13:30:44
Agreed Gary. The rest hate us! Let them. we don't give a rubbish and never have!
We r doing not too badly sitting 2nd without a manager and considering we r fighting, financially, with one hand behind our back is remarkable! We have just beat the supposed 2nd best team in the league home and away! Let us keep the backing of the team up. the board are making a few mistakes (Who is the Barry Scott fella? ) but they have done well in ridding of us Ashley etc! This has taken significant time and money!
Next season new kit and retail deal to look forward too. BUILD IT AND IT WILL COME! PS Mcinnes bottled it. Tommy Wright Stevie Clark or preud homme would be interesting. Keep the Faith. FIRB

12 Dec 2017 08:32:40
Gary75 it's the boards own admission that no suitable candidates applied for the job that is why they had to go for a man who was in employment, I was at the shareholders meeting when Mr King said it . I see Moult is on his way to Preston we could have had him in the summer a player I'd love to have seen up front for us, I don't think the board has handled the manager search very well at all, they were sure they had their man, what happened in final few hours probably we will never know . We now need to button down the hatches we need to get things on and off the park sorted, share issue, Nomad, bank lending, investment, you can say if we had beat Hamilton and Dundee we'd be a point behind yes true but we didn't, my post was not pessimistic it was a touch of realisation we are not in a good place . Wednesday is a huge game for us Hibs are a good side and will be on a high after their come back so let's see what that brings if we can get a result I'll be the first to start believing you but with Jack and Dorrans out and maybe even Mcrorie it won't be easy

11 Dec 2017 01:28:04
Genuinely think some of our fans have problems with long term memory. Halliday, Forrester etc? It wasn't 7 months ago we couldn't wait to get shot of them 😂

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11 Dec 2017 02:42:11
I’ll cry if Halliday gets a game again

10 Dec 2017 21:07:07
Looking at the table now, leave Murty at the helm as he is more comfortable with DOF and has a great understanding of our youth set up. Long term if there is need to appoint another manager then we do. No more who is in running crap.

New scouting system in place and plans to build new youth facilities are the way forward. Champions League will be harder to get in to as will the Europa League so no short term fixes including spend, spend, spend to stop 10 in a row. Our league position is not that bad, considering Celtic are an amazing team. 😂😂.

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11 Dec 2017 17:56:51
We may not be amazing windy, but we are the best, and will be for a long, long time. By the way, you need to get into good european runs pronto to survive, so your slow burner suggestion will kill your club as will spend spend spend right enough, do you see where i'm going with this? .

11 Dec 2017 18:02:57
Ha ha Windy. Cheered me up on a freezing day!

10 Dec 2017 18:21:07
Anyone have any news on the McCrorie injury? He was terrific yesterday once again and we need him 100% fit for Wednesday. This will be a tough game but we are not without a chance as I believe we have played far better this season against teams that come and attack us than we do against teams who sit in and counter!

If McCrorie is out then I’d like to see us set up defensively with 3 at the back and Pena could be useful in this game with more space and time as Hibs come at us!

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10 Dec 2017 21:02:44
Pena is a man down it doesn't much how much you try and dress it up. We will need 11 battlers against His, they are a better team than the Sheep and our main threat.

10 Dec 2017 21:07:37
Pena makes me want to cry every time i watch him. there's so much potential there for him to become a cult hero and be at the club for years but.

Hes just missing that something that can't be coached and i'm afraid that's why he will never be a success at Ibrox.

11 Dec 2017 01:17:54
Pains me to see Pena play in midfield. No urgency to press teams, no intensity and no work ethic. Said before I'd like to see him upfront with Morelos but at the moment Windass deserves that role. Our big worry for Wednesday is midfield. There will be no McCrorie, Dorrans or Jack potentially. There's nobody left to partner Holt except Barjonas and a severely immobile Kranjcar. Hopefully McCrorie makes the starting 11 though.

11 Dec 2017 10:41:22
Windass doesn't deserve any role in the team.

11 Dec 2017 10:50:21
Windass has came onto a game recently. He's definitely benefited from pedro leaving and murty coming in. Again, he has scored vital goals recently, and he puts a shift in.

11 Dec 2017 11:56:32
I disagree, Windass is nowhere near Rangers class and is lazy unless running forward and at least 3 times on Saturday made the wrong choice of pass to play in goal scoring situations,

11 Dec 2017 15:04:42
What games are you watching?! He's been one of the better players in the team recently.
He's 23, get a grip and get behind him and the team instead of criticising all the time. Your just finding things to moan about.

11 Dec 2017 17:52:23
We missed ryan jack against ross county on saturday and will without question, miss him even more, against hibs at ER on wednesday evening! Especially as jack would have been tracking hibs best midfielder, john mcginn! He's a massive threat to us and a very good midfielder!

Ryan jack would have had the job to put the bite on mcginn and if he was able to, would have went a long way to us beating them on wednesday! Jack is a very important player for us and we will miss him badly in this game! His hard work in our midfield, sometimes goes unnoticed at times by our supporters! He's a future club captain in the making!

11 Dec 2017 17:58:14
Cult heroes are usually just pish players with a bit of character, best getting rid.

11 Dec 2017 18:02:04
Well I agree with ally rangers., windass is a much improved player but could do more. it’s night / day compared to what he was like last season

12 Dec 2017 07:58:08
Broony is my favourite Celtic cult hero 👍

10 Dec 2017 17:14:39
I think our board of directors in their search for our new manager, should take a look at the incredible job, graham potter (manager) and billy reid (assistant manager), are doing at swedish club ostersunds! Its only a matter of time before big clubs come calling for these two! Its a remarkable story! At the very least, i would like to think, that they're on our radar!

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10 Dec 2017 18:20:15
Couldn't agree more coops I've said him from the start but would he move?

10 Dec 2017 19:41:38
Av been saying about potter also

10 Dec 2017 20:12:31
Be better with Harry Potter maybe he could make all the Tim’s disappear.

10 Dec 2017 20:25:04
googled them two you’ve mentioned supercoop, if they were interested it would def be worth a shout!

10 Dec 2017 20:50:24
Managing utter keek team in utter keek league, qualifying for europe against other keek teams, no thanks. Plus they will be looking to move to a big club not a struggling team in another keek league.

10 Dec 2017 21:05:04
Another positive corker Fod . in your opinion then no one would want the job . don't know why you bother mate

10 Dec 2017 21:53:45
Just read your comments again Fod, you actually contradict yourself totally, I was sure your not a Gers man, now I don't even think your a football man. Stupid comments and statements all the time.

10 Dec 2017 22:14:06
fod the prod, give up

11 Dec 2017 00:53:50
Fod, Potter and Reid are exactly the type of coaches we need. They’ve taken a team from nowhere with nothing to Europe. Billy Reid done an interview a couple of years ago saying why he gives youth a chance and how Scotland is backwards when it come to developing youth. And since we don’t have the money to spend then we need to develop youth and make a profit from them down the line

11 Dec 2017 08:21:36
Haha aye say what yous want about me n my opinions but it doesn't change the facts rangers have been tits up for ages and only real money will change it. The board don't have a clue aboutfootball and to me it looks like none of them are on the same page.

11 Dec 2017 15:48:28
Graham Potter is an excellent shout. he's beaten good teams in europe? they have beaten Galatasary, Hertha BSC and got a draw against Athletic Bilbao who are all very good sides!

11 Dec 2017 17:53:33
Fodtheprod, who do you want as our new manager mate? Realistically within reason who do you think will get the job? This should be very interesting!

11 Dec 2017 18:04:00
Very true mate.
Develop and then sell on.
After Murray Park was built I thought we would have plenty youth coming through. Maybe the fact Murty doing 1st team some will get a chance.

10 Dec 2017 15:11:22
We've no chance on wed they were really good the day.

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10 Dec 2017 15:17:18
Hope the players don't have that attitude

10 Dec 2017 15:19:16
Pipe down

10 Dec 2017 15:23:30
we'd no chance for the 2 dons games either but look how that worked out
keep believing!

10 Dec 2017 16:29:15
Celtic too eye off the ball and Hibs scored 2 scrappy goals.

Rangers have a great chance if they match performance levels of Aberdeen games. It’s hibs no Barcelona.

10 Dec 2017 16:43:16
I thought it was a reasonable game but first things first, we will need to match the battle of hibs first and then be assured with our game plan and ability to take chances. I thought that hibs showed that if your not scared of celtic you can cause them problems.

10 Dec 2017 17:18:12
That's the spirit mate. Write the team off already. How have we no chance? It's 11 v 11 and I think we have the better team. If we turn up we win in my opinion. We are 3/ 4 players short for solid title challenge but you never know.

Enjoy weekend mate we caught 2 points.

10 Dec 2017 17:19:10
Nice to see the fans backing the team. who cares how they played today we are rangers no surrender 🇬🇧.

10 Dec 2017 20:11:58
Always got a chance support the team.

10 Dec 2017 21:00:16
Thought hibs were very slack today and kept giving the ball away cheaply. Need to shackle mcginn because he bossed broony the fud in the middle. Will be a different game on Wednesday night for stokes and mcgeoch and co as they showed earlier in the season. Did u see all the kisses and cuddles at the end it wiz like a birthday party in the railway tavern

11 Dec 2017 09:24:03
Aye I noticed a big cheesy grin on the lurgan lout's coupon when Lustig cleared the ball off the line. Wonder if we'll see the same grin on Wednesday night when Tav does the same in the last minute to deny them an equaliser.

10 Dec 2017 14:57:00
IF certain deceaions went our way and we didn't lose them 2 "easy" games before the Aberdeen double, we could have been top of the league! I honestly think we have a decent side in there. We just need to be more consistent and go out to each game with the right attitude!

On another note, how bloody lucky are we that ross mccorie has taken his chance in the first team? For me, he's turning out to be one of our best players and he was one of the only players that stood out in the first half for me yesterday! He's got the passion and desire to make it far in the game.

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10 Dec 2017 18:03:57
Defo Mr Cruikshanks, he gets better every game, a stand out this season! Like all young players he is bound to make mistakes but he it the type of player that teams can be built around, much like Tierney at Celtic, sign him up long term Stewart Robertson!

10 Dec 2017 14:23:44
An interesting point raised this morning over Warburton's signings. Where would Rangers be just now if the board had backed him enough to acquire his first choice additions? I don't think he got one first choice signing. Even Barton wasn't the first name on the list for the ill fated marquee signature. Senderos, Barton, Hill, Garner were all signed after the board failed to acquire the number one target. The guy was slated for his signings but never got who he wanted. Even Tav was second choice to Reece Wabara. I know teams will miss out on players all the time. But to be failed in key positions constantly like with the Diagouraga saga, instead having to go with John Toral on a loan. He didn't stand a chance of competing the way he wanted.

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10 Dec 2017 15:00:38
Tav is a much better player than Reece warbra tho so that one work out ok.

10 Dec 2017 17:04:59
Mate warbs wanted and signed the likes of halliday kiernan etc and persisted on playing his favourites even though there was better options on the bench, he also persisted with the same tactics when is clear they were not working. For a manager who constantly said that we would learn from this, ironically he never did learn. He had to go and so did the majority of his signings.

10 Dec 2017 18:37:31
Yes I agree to an extent about his tactics being one dimensional, he himself made it clear when he joined what his philosophy was. The point was a very small margin of his signings were his number one targets. Lucky to get someone in the top 5 of a 10 man shortlist, which is quite frankly appalling. So it is no wonder he couldn't get the winning mentality he knew he required to be long term manager.

10 Dec 2017 20:03:48
If Warburton had been more pragmatic then he might have lasted long enough to find out how much backing he would have been given in a Europa League qualifying campaign. As it turned out he wasn’t and was rightfully moved on IMO. Pedro again was rightfully moved on after a truly shocking semi vs Motherwell, one thing the board cannot be held for is bottling a big (but correct) decision.

Keep Believing!

10 Dec 2017 21:21:55
Missed the point totally again. Warburton obviously deserved the sack because he wasn't winning consistently. He lived and duely died by his signings which did not show the required competitiveness to challenge domestically. Signings of which a small number were actually first on his transfer list.

11 Dec 2017 10:46:23
Barton should have been a first choice signing. given a proper chance and more than 8 games he played he could have been a fantastic signing. but all the numptys from the other side of Glasgow and the press hated him and the fact Warburton played him central defence in the celtic game. I for one was glad to see Warbs and Weir leave and get rid of Forester, Dodoo, Senderos and the rest of the mediocre player he signed

10 Dec 2017 12:14:18
I wanted Mcinnes to be our next manager and my second choice was Stuart McCall. Always thought he was unlucky not to get the job when Warbs came in. Right now, I'm on the fence between Murty and McCall, purely because Murty done the sheep, got three wins in a row and took points off them. I really like Murty but I'm not sure if he's ready. Of those two, who would you all rather see?

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10 Dec 2017 14:08:40
Again someone with a short term memory, took points off Celtic yes, but lost to Dundee and ICT then beat Aberdeen home and away this time round but lost to Accies and Dundee. Murty has bought Rangers time just now but as a long term thing!? Absolutely not. If anyone thinks Murty is the man who’s going to close the gap on Celtic then you seriously need to have a word with yourself.

10 Dec 2017 15:29:42
i don't expect murty to be the next manager either but you must be blind he has already closed the gap on celtic albeit very slightly
i hope we have he grit and determination to continue this form into dec 30th
if we nicked a win ther i think wed start to see cracks form in them
keep believing!

10 Dec 2017 17:01:41
McCalls record for Rangers
PL 17 W 7 D 6 L 4 win % 41 including a hammering in the play offs to motherwell ( 6-1 ) and you want him back?

10 Dec 2017 17:06:33
Agreed Lee👍

10 Dec 2017 17:23:42
With a view to a safe pair of hands and getting the team going in the right direction again we require experience, therefore I would go with big Eck, Murty and Alex Rae. With a view to Murty possibly taking over in a couple of years.

10 Dec 2017 18:14:21
I think you are harsh Lee_mcF, Murty has done well in my opinion under difficult circumstances on both occasions in the caretaker role. he has not had the luxury of being able to sign players or the authority to speak about the future due to the nature of his position. Were you a McInnes backer? I certainly wasn’t and am glad our search for manager befitting of our great club continues!

In the meantime I’ll set Graeme Murty the same target I was willing to set McInnes, 2nd place with a total of 65-70pts. With no Gio van B or the like on the horizon just yet then Murty is a good as any of the average Joes being banded about at present!

10 Dec 2017 20:29:46
i think that for both murty and mccall it’s a bit unfair to judge their records purely on wins, losses, draws as they both improved what was left over, got better results and morale after mccoist, macdowell, warbs, caixinha were moved on

10 Dec 2017 10:13:16

This is my first post and I was interested in gathering people's thoughts on a suggestion for the next manager at our club:

The board made a suggestion that nobody out of work is suitable to the job, but I seem to disagree.
There are a few managers that I think would be a success wearing the navy suit, brown brogues and club tie.

The popular choice being Frank De Boer. But I'd also like to make a case for Martin Jol.

He has been out of work for the last 18 months, where he left Egyptian side Al Ahly as league champions.
Possibly the fact his last post was in Egypt is the reason that he has been forgotten, and not discussed when managerial posts become vacant.

Jol is well known for his successful spells at Spurs and Fulham. Finishing his two full seasons with spurs in 5th place, and finishing his two seasons at Fulham in 9th and 12th place.

Jol has two Dutch Cup successes to his name but unfortunately not the Eredivise title. He finished one point behind FC Twente in his closest attempt. In that same season Ajax won 14 consecutive games at the end of the season, and posted a record goal difference in Dutch football, double the goal difference of the next best team's. This shows a manager with the tactical nous to open up teams to score goals, but be defensively tough to score against.

I also think he is a realistic appointment and affordable.

If we are looking for managers who have a proven success at winning trophies we have to define that success. Managers who have won recognisable leagues such as top European leagues are likely to be out of our budget. Caixinha had a proven record of delivering trophies but he was doing this at a level lesser than or club demands. And if he had been winning trophies and leagues in a decent European league (i. e. Portugal, Netherlands, even English championship) he may have demanded too high a salary.
Martin Jol has delivered a high level of success with regards to his managed club's expectations. This might not be trophies but success is success.

I'd like to think he should be contacted by our club as a potential candidate, so we can assess. And maybe one day he can proudly wear the navy suit, brown brogues and club tie.

I also think we should open talks with Frank De Boer, and maybe also Cristoph Daum (another not mentioned by the media) . A conversation will at least determine if these three individuals are right for the job and if they are interested. In my opinion, all three of these managers have a better trophy success and CV than Derek McInnes.

What are your thoughts?

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10 Dec 2017 10:47:27
welcome to the board mate. Actually think that is a good shout that would be worth exploring. Be prepared for the "he doesnae bleed blue" comments haha

10 Dec 2017 11:44:37
I struggle to think of anyone who bleeds blue that will be a good appointment. Derek McInnes was the best of that lot and he still divided opinion.

Obviously we can all dream of a Walter Smith era again but we have just been fortunate that a manager of his quality is one of us. I think he deserves his right to retirement for the service he has given us. But would be delighted if he fancies one last gig.

All the other supposed "bleed blue" options like GVB are only adopted to the family, not born into it, so anyone new can be adopted into the family and become a Ranger in time

10 Dec 2017 12:23:36
Stuart McCall

10 Dec 2017 16:57:37
Yip martin jol would be a good shout. Forget de boer, couldn't hack it at inter or palace.

10 Dec 2017 16:58:04
I know from a family member, he would love to come to Rangers - he is not wholly driven by money either, I am told.

10 Dec 2017 17:05:49
Stuart McCall had 2 games against motherwell to get job. Didn't manage it. Martin Jol not sure but thought board said British manager. I think we will end up with big Eck.

Would love Gio but doubt will happen.

Anyway will be backing whoever comes in whenever that might be.

Safe hands with Graeme Murty I feel.

10 Dec 2017 20:01:32
McCall may prove to be the right man but I wouldn't gamble on him now. Let's see what kind of manager he evolves into, and see what kind of job he does at Bradford.

We need a manager who has several successful years and McCall hasn't achieved that yet for me. But maybe one for a future opportunity.


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