Rangers Rumours Archive February 10 2012
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10 feb 2012 23:40:43
why the clamour for mckay he is obviously rotten otherwise he would play ps has anyone actually seen him play cos ally doesnt rate him
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You'd have thought Ally would have seen him play and rated him to buy him, but obviously not. So Ally just rates players now after signing them. Shambles.
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Said it before,mccoist has a lot to answer for
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Wasn't he MOTM against Liverpool in the friendly? Wasn't he also MOTM with Australia in one of their matches round about the time we signed him?... Ran the show from left back apparently. If he is a midfielder to trade and mcculloch and edu are above him in the pecking order he must be rancid. If he can operate in left mid and Wallace and Papac get thrown in there at times and he barely makes the bench he must be worse than rancid.
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Well just ask yourself this , Could McColloch win Australia Player of the Year and get Mom against liverpool .....? i live brisbane and saw Matty Mckay week in week out , and hes better than both McCulloch and edu and in my opinion davis
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Let's move on I'm sick of hearing about McKay it was clearly a mistake signing him as he is p!sh. PaulRFC
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McCoist said during the week after the bounce game " Mckay played really really well". But yet again he's not in the squad? We have nobody to play right midfield, so get Davis out there and get Mckay in the middle. McCoist has to swallow his pride if they did fall out and get him in the team as we are crying out for somebody who is tidy on the ball and has a good work ethic.
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The guy hasn't been given a chance, and yeah we don't see him in training but he can't be that bad, McCoist is quoted as saying he hasn't played because Edu and Davis have played really well in his position? Ally must see things different to me cause imo very few of our players have had a great season and merit a place every week, I hope McKay and Bedoya for that matter get a chance soon.
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He is too attack minded for McCoist. He likes McCulloch, Edu and Bartley as they are a lot more defensive and that goes with the Ally/Walter mentality. Anytime i have seen footage or clips of McKay he is bursting forward setting up or having a crack at goal. Ally would have nightmares about that kind of play. lol
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Mccoist thinks the guy is to small total joke
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Cracking compilation of mckay on youtube - matt mckay compilation. Rumour is McKay thumped Durrant in a training ground incident and has fallen foul of McCoist.
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I think you're mad for not playing him. McCoist is obviously inept at spotting talent that doesn't suit his game plan (notice that's not plural). I have seen him up close, for Brisbane and Australia and not only is he good, he's captain material. He's being wasted and it annoys me as an Australian that he is unable to better his game due to the fact he loves to play with freedom.
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I stay in perth australia had season book 30 years decent wee player bit like wee mccall gets in about it and good engine picks a pass better than mcculloch etc and would give davis mors room to play and he could do the donkey work
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Was it a Gordon Smith signing?
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McKay won't get a game and will move on soon please address more urgent matters why is papac left midfield puzzles me
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Maybe he's on a pay as you play deal
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He was on bench today people
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The airport bear ... I was lucky enough to bump into Craig Moore the other week at work .... Asked why McKay wasn't in the team ... Skippy said he was over in Europe working for the Socceroos and that Matt McKay was a stand out in the A-League and doesn't or wouldn't say anymore apart from he ain't the Boss it's ally's call !! Food for thought people
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10 feb 2012 23:30:43
why r johnson and murray concerned when it looks like the tax case is going against rangers imo they did well to get out before it hit the fan or was that the plan
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Because Johnston is planning a takeover, with other parties, and ousting Whyte, and although Murray won't be coming back, he's happy to help Johnston in his takeover attempts.
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We will know more just after the tax case
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Seems like a lot of people on here are slagging off johnston for standing up and asking the questions that all rangers fans should have been asking. At least hes got the bottle to stand up and say his piece instead of all the usual "we cant control the tax case" patter or "It isnt Whytes fault we are in this mess". Well if we dont stand up and be counted this conman will leave our club in ruins after lining his own pockets as he is one slimy little scumbag!!!!
We should all be backing Ally as the poor guy is getting treated like crap by this clown and now the fans are giving it to him tight as well. Dont think any other manager would have put up with this much.
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Dont think any other manager would be still in a job ,with the record he has . in 5 competitions,and out of 4 .
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Whyte promised murray he would do this & that but done nothing of what he said
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10 Feb 2012 23:19:27
everyone needs to get off whyte's back. He'snot in it to make money at the expense of rangers. doesn't make sense when you potentially have to pay £49m plus the £18m. no money to be made in a club in this state. You all need to realise as well how skint david murray is ... he has lost something like 85% of his personal welath in the last 5 years. whyte was the only one willing to do the job.
yes, we probably will go into administration, but we will get out of it, and, if murray was in charge,would we be buying messi and paying the tax bill with pocket money ... erm, no
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I don't believe this post. How many hints do you need before you finally understand what whyte is.
He lied about the transfer fund
He makes his living from asset stripping companies in trouble.
He lied about being barred from being a director.
He has used season ticket money to buy the club
He is never out of court
He only pays bills after he loses the court cases
A judge describes him as wholly unreliable
If it walks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck. Take the hints.
Whyte's goal since day 1 has been to put us into administration as that is the only way that he can make money.
He has dragged our club thru the mud and embarrassed us on numerous times and you say get off his back!
He is a charlatan, a liar a conman, and when he disappears with his pockets full because of ppl like you, we will see if you are of the same opinion
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Okay then . Whyte buys Rangers for £1. He has a 1st ranking security over Rangers assets to the sum of £18m (Whyte has confirmed this himself) if Rangers go into administration, and that means he gets paid before HMRC. So if Rangers go into administration Whyte can walk away with £18m for a £1 investment, and whatever shenanigans he's been upto with the advanced season ticket sales.
And before anyone says that HMRC gets paid first they don't. A first ranking security overides any other creditor, including HMRC. Check it out with any solicitor or accountant and they will confirm.
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He's paid £18m + £1 and he's getting out of it £18m ... how does he make a profit??
as for reply 1, i think you need to be reading some of these interviews whyte does. he cleared all of your points up
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You seem to be missing one thing here..the 18m for lloyds! has that been paid or moved to another account,if whyte paid it he's not gonna make much is he? if he didnt pay it whos gonna buy? try and think!
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In reply to the original post, you should wake up and consume the truth. Craig Whyte is full of detritus. He has told lie after lie, now his web is unravelling, his response to everything is-My lawyers will vigorously pursue these claims. The problem with his proclamations of legal action is:- he has not started legal proceedings in relation to any of the accusations levelled against him. You say he's not in it to make money at the expense of Rangers. If he is not there to make £££££££££ why did he buy a club in deep s?@t? Whyte is a venture capitalist(corporate vulture,scavenger) - that description defines him- he thinks of money only.
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(In reply to the or) sorry I forgot to sign my name
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To the above poster who claims whyte paid 18mil to loyds maybe so but was it paid with season ticket money if so whyte never paid 18mil we did so whyte buys the club for a £1 then walks away with 18Mil of fans money got to hand it to the snake clever little 5hit aint he
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Did he not put 5 mill in at the summer? By the time you add up new contracts and the dud players Ally bought is comes to that total. Plus he did say he would slash the wage bill as Rangers previously were making a loss each year. We have to be realistic Whyte is not another Murray ho is going to throw money at Rangers I get the feeling that Whyte will run rangers as Fergus McCann ran Celtic. It will be grim for a few years but this is the only way we can continue.
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I keep hearing people saying Whyte has used season ticket money to buy the club!! How do any of you know this?! Cause the Daily Rebel said so?! Ive always said i would give Whyte time. For me he has until the tax case is finished and the accounts are published when, all the truth about where season ticket money, jelavic money, and just how much money he has put in himself comes out.
For all we know Whyte could be building cash up to pay HMRC off and is currently stalling for time.
Why is noone giving Murray as much grief or why is the BBC or Daily Rebel not investigating Murray after the trouble he and his mob got us in trouble?!...Dave
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We took in 12m in season ticket money last season thats what paid for new contracts not whytes money....
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Didn't we spend money on stadium in summer? Why do that if were gonna go down the tubes? Don't make sense
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Why dont beileve we have the money stored for a hmrc bill? seems pretty obvious and cw wouldnt shout about it if he did
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10 Feb 2012 23:18:51
Apparently Craig Whyte asked Ally McCoist this morning how far away he was from a team competing in Europe, Ally said, " about 6 miles"
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I get that joke... Because when was the last time septic performed in Europe... All the way back to another wee ginger ! PaulRFC
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Can't be smeltic your on about then. There out of europe before xmas every season
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Hilarious joke mate, now trot on, I am sure there are some Windows needing licked.
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I actually quite liked that one.
Don
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Wasnt ceptic put out off europe twice this year..lol.
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Perfect you got to see your mob gey humped twice this season.
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10 Feb 2012 23:02:46
instead of getting useless players like mervan celik, why don't we go for mohamadou diarra. ex real madrid( played over 125 games for them so not a reserve + cost nearly 30m euros ) and is now a free-agent, wages would be affordable as he was last playing for as monaco who are now in ligue 2 ... just a thought
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So the verdict is out on Mervan after one game? Then we should really take you seriously.....
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And exactly how much would his affordable wages be Mr Expert?
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Aye cos monaco pay rubbish wages!!
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The difference is Monaco can pay wages which are tax free ... oh wait a minute now i see where you are going !!
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Doncaster were interested so the wages aren't going to be that high are they ...
£10k-£20k for a quality player ...
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He is still to young, we will sign him when he is 50 {Ed001's Note - he was asking for a few grand just to go on a trial.}
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You kidding us on mate? you are writing off Celik after about 1 hour of football, yes Rangers players have to hit the ground running but for the love a god give the guy a chance, many a player have had proper nitemare starts at new clubs to then go on to become legends.
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He was asked to murray park so as Sally could have a look at him but he refused.
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Only 1 hours footie ,played out of position, gie the boy a break, he came to us in the state were in so he deserves a chance and i think he will be way better than wylde?
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I thought Mervan played well enough today. Cracking header at goal which led to Kerkar's beauty. The kid will come good. Just look at Aluko. How many fans were slagging him off when he first joined us. Now, he's first choice to start and MOM in many games.
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10 Feb 2012 20:02:19
Their seems to be more to murry being at murry park few weeks back . Word is he told ally not to walk so what would the reason for that .everything that's been happening last few days would not supprise if murry was edging back in to his office were he should be get this clown Whyte to f..k ...kenny
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Rumour has it that murray's pockets are almost empty. there is no chance of him taking back the hotseat
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Where he should be! have you forgot who caused this whole sorry mess? who sold to whyte? who had lloyds telling him to sell?
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Please remember that it was DM that got us into this mess, be careful what you wish for
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I would like to think that if it got to the worst case scenario then someone out there would step in and bail us out. there are a lot of very wealthy rangers supporters ie jim mccoll, tom hunter to name a couple. surely they wouldn't like to see our great club go into liquidation.
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Would be better with murry .people for get the amount of money he put in .ok with the tax case we are not the only ones in this mess just that we are the first ones up . As for Whyte lie after lie he has no money ... Kenny
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He was looking for Whyte as he still hasn't paid the pound for the club.
Jungle Bhoy.
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Where were they for three years? both have stated their not interested in a football club
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@ jungle bhoy. I heard a Euromillions winner was gonna buy us.. Another 2 numbers n he woulda been a millionaire aswell :P Lol
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Too many jungle jims having an opinion on something that has feck all to do with them. not so long ago they were ready to sack Lennon when they were getting trounced 3 nil at half time to Kilmarnock! Just remember guys that the league is far from over, and you know what happened last year. Ed surely you must agree?? Trueblue {Ed014's Note - It's just their turn to gloat,we would all do the same if it was the other way round.Alot of Celtic fans backed Lennon just like alot of Rangers fans are backing McCoist.Look at the English sites,football fans are notorious for kneejerk reactions.
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(He was looking for Whyte as he still hasn't paid the pound for the club.
Jungle Bhoy.)
I'm blue through and through but this made me laugh!
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10 Feb 2012 19:26:40
Once again the BBC and the authorities will use every chance possible to run our club down, I hope that after the tax case and once we are back on our feet that all those slag off merchants are made to eat there words, I firmly believe that Craig Whyte has a master plan that will be in the best interest of Rangers Football Club.
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I read an article the other day, with Ally saying that Whyte was an organised man, and that he had a plan for every possible scenario regarding the tax case. I found this very strange, as people seem to be of the opinion that Ally and Whyte dont get along...Nivbear.
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Good for you.artybhoy
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You must be mad mate. all the BBC are doing is pointing out how dodgy this guy is.admin is the plan,its the only option given the current debt levels and thats before the results of the tax case
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Gus - it's time to wake up son. Where Rangers find themselves at present is not the fault of the media or anyone else. It is the ruinous financial leadership of the old board and the disasterous financial strategy of Whyte what has led Rangers to where they are.
You are actually fortunate that the media have not gone after Rangers more than they have done. The situation with the advance sale of season tickets has been known for months, but the media have sat on the story and only decided to release it now.
But you go ahead and blame everyone else and bury your head in the sand.
There is no doubt that Rangers are going to suffer an insolvency event, the only question is whether it will be administration or liquidation.
But okay, you think Craig Whyte has a masterplan. If you think this you must have some evidence to back up this belief, what is it?
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You better believe Whyte has a plan for every scenario. But it won't be for the benfit of Rangers, it will be for the benfit of Whyte and how much money he can make from it.
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Is it any wonder we are the laughing stock of Scotland when our fans come out with stupid statements like this , you really need to get out more and stay off the gear Whyte is taking us to the cleaners . Nae wonder i take a good drink , Boab
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It wasn't the BBC. It was the Sheriff.
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Yeah his plan for when rankers lose the tax case is never return to Glasgow.
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To be fair i dont think they saying anything downgrading about rangers, it`s whyte they are talking about,
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He does have a plan and that is to make as much as he can, that has been goal since day 1
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Hope the gers go into liquidation
We're done yep but you can kiss good bye Scottish football rip gers
Rip Scottish football
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Was it not oasis that had a master plan?
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Jesus guys get a grip, yes if administration comes then maybe it will be a blessing! just remember whyte bought into Rangers to stave off the vultures of Lloyds who would have shut us down last year, its not whytes fault that we crashed out the champions league, europa league, and both scottish and league cup. Ally needs to shoulder some blame. Ed would appreciate your comments ? {Ed001's Note - it is hard to say, but the club wouldn't be going into admin if the alternative wasn't far worse. So, on that basis, I would say if it happens, just hope that is enough.}
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Why're is a conman. He paid off lloyds with advance money from season tickets. He delays submitting accounts for all companies connected to rangers. He thought administration wld already b here by now and that it's not has fxxxxx him up him and his fellow directors r only interested in screwing rangers if anyone believes in him now they also believe in the tooth fairy
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If cw is everything says about him, why sign celik, cousin? if recording losses of 10 million per year, jelavic sale was obivous choice, we will overcome everything fellow gers, keep believing.
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10 Feb 2012 18:49:08
Has Cousin actually been signed and if so, will he be in the squad for Dunfermline ?
Gsn72563 {Ed014's Note - He has signed but won't be available tomorrow.Not sure if it is because of his ban or that he isn't arriving until tomorrow.He only signed via a fax.
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Thanks Ed.
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You have to hand it tae THE WHYTE KNIGHT, Getting Daniel Cousin in for £7.500 per week ?.
No doubt a hero's welcome back to a guy that could not get out the door quick enough last round.
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Cousin signing has missed sfa 5pm deadline so not available for dunf game. Also, thot he had one match ban after getting sent off v septic but apparently he sat that 1st game for hull. Unsure of that as ones fa and ones sfa
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Cousin served his ban while playing with Hull, he sat out his first game when he joined them to serve his ban that carried on from his move.
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Different Fas, different bans, Suarez had seven game ban in Netherlands when moved to Liverpool, played right away in England.
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They are getting him on the next available easy jet flight. might be here tomorrow
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I actually was in the Dakota hotel last night where Rangers were staying. I struck a conversation with a guy who was with Rangers - not sure he was a coach maybe. Anyway, he said he hasn't signed yet and this was last night roughly 8pm. Not saying he would have told me anymore but I can't see it anywhere being announced he has signed?
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Missed the deadline to sign last night and missed Dunfermline Game. He is suspened for Kilmarnock game next week. Another good bit of Whyte business
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10 Feb 2012 18:04:03
Ed... I posted earlier about Martin Bain being at PFA offices. Is there any logical reason for him being there that you know of? I was working outside when Fraser Wishart went inside then half an hour later Bain went with some other guy.
With Johnston n now Murray having a go at whyte in public n Bain meeting the PFA is Murray trying to get back in or is it coincidence?
Dave. {Ed014's Note - It could be any number of reasons.
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Looking for a job or getting geared up in preparation for administration
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Thats what i thought but he no longer has any connection with any football team so why goto the PFA? They cant help him with his case against rangers can they? Does he have a new job?
I hate adding to any rumours after all the crap that has been written over the past few months but i found it really strange that he would go there at the same time as johnston and murray questioning what whyte is doing.
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I hope someone at the PFA asked him for more details on the money HE took out of Rangers,..Nivbear.
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What has the PGA got to do with it? They have no power to demand anything {Ed014's Note - The PGA?
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Pga? maybe he is getting tiger woods on board. heard he can handle a club o/
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10 Feb 2012 18:24:07
rangers signed aluko on a deal until the end of the season and have the option of extending it by a further 2 years which will happen so he wont be signing no pre contract !
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Doesnt Aluko get a say in this? Haha
If a Championship team offers him a deal he will be offski as rangers cant match it.
Both parties need to be in agreement before the contract can be extended.
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I heard that Whyte wants to offload 4 more first team players to balance the books. He is even considering releasing them from their contracts now. I heard a few names but will keep to myself at the moment.
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Surely Aluko cant afford to extend his contract for two years, it will cost him a fortune
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Releasing players? How would that save money because you need to pay them off. Let me guess a Celtic fan.
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Hamilton lad i thought i knew hee haw about contracts but ffs even i knew both parties need to agree to an extension you cannae force someone to sign a contract extension , i sometimes wonder where we get these fans from PLUTO or somewhere ?
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He agreed to it after the the first 7 months if rangers are satisfied they can legaly without permission add a further 2 years thats why he wont be signing a pre contract look it up lad
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HAMILTON LAD - its against the rules to sign a player under the age of 24 on a contract which can be extended without their permission. Aluko has to agree to the extension.
Sorry.!
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10 Feb 2012 18:08:42
Heard rumour today that if Kyle Lafferty plays one more game we are to pay Burnley £800,000, has Kyle's injury come at a good time for board ? any truth in this
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I heard it was 250k after 100 games and hes at 98
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10 Feb 2012 17:44:45
have just heard that david murray has also called for an investigation into craig whytes takeover,i find it astonishing that mr murray has jumped on the band wagon,did he not sell the club to mr whyte in the first place.also would mr murray have sold the club if the tax bill wasnt hanging over our heads.he should be held responsible for this mess in the first place.
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Of course DM is 100% the cause of the mess we are currently in due his reckless arrogance from 1998 onwards. DM was given no choice by Lloyds. He had to sell to CW otherwise LLoyds were going to pull the plug and we would have gone bust there and then. It should be no surprise CW has no money. He never had in the first place. There is only one way we can be sure the club will be run properly and thats if the fans take the bull by the horns and do it by ourselves.
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This points ever more slightly to my point that Whyte is a fall guy for the administrators. Everything isn't as clear cut as everyone thinks. Murray will have had legal experts on how to work around this tax case and this could be it. Unfortunate as Admin would be, with Whyte at the helm, he has no creditable assets therefore the Government would reduce the repayment. Then swoops in Murray or who ever else. If Murray was at the helm, they'd pass the 49M debt to Murray International Holdings
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I agree. I think this was a ploy from Murray all long. I think he couldnt be hassled with all the bother and flack with the tax case and is planning to come back and act as the clubs saviour.
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The big question is HAS david murray sold the club to him ?? all will be revealed soon enough ....bigt
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And just who is going to organise the protest that might in the long term allow the club to be controlled and run the same way as Barcelona
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Ok imagine that Murray didn't sell the club. Johnstone. Bain. murray and co were still in place. What would these people do if we lost the tax case ? Even if we had some money put aside, Bain would pocket it anyway. A bonus for getting oot his bed in the morning. These guy's couldn't cope with the 18 million owed to the bank, so what chance would they have if they lost the tax case ?. I'm not sticking up for Whyte, but I cant get my head round whats going on.
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Check out MIH's last public figures,their in a bigger mess than rangers and lloyds is running them.you really think they will give murray a big of cash to start again?
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Dont think it matters now wether it be murray or whyte or in fact even if both co owned rangers,we lose the tax case,between the two of them they couldnt pay the bill anyway.
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Murray had been trying to sell Rangers for 3 years before the tax investigation even began. He is not coming back.
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To the above poster who said:
"This points ever more slightly to my point that Whyte is a fall guy for the administrators. Everything isn't as clear cut as everyone thinks. Murray will have had legal experts on how to work around this tax case and this could be it. Unfortunate as Admin would be, with Whyte at the helm, he has no creditable assets therefore the Government would reduce the repayment. Then swoops in Murray or who ever else. If Murray was at the helm, they'd pass the 49M debt to Murray International Holdings"
You clearly haven't a clue. The administrator will not go after Craig Whyte's assets and if Murray was still in charge they would not go after the assets of Murray. The legal entity that will go into administration is Rangers and the administrator can only go after Ranger's assets.
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The way I see it, Whyte is a specialist in wrapping up cases. He's also a lifelong Gers fan. He knows the ins and outs of dealing in situations such as ours.
Have faith, he needs to keep things close to his chest until the HMRC thing is done.
The man's no fool.
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I agree with the above comment. I think Whyte has a plan and knows what he is doing. He is supposed to be an expert fighting cases against HMRC. The only reason he wont publish the accounts is because of the tax case. Why? Is he trying to hid something from them?
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10 Feb 2012 17:35:38
Why re-sign cousin when we have a striker on our reserves that would rip the league up with his strength and pace he may only be 17 but he has quality get Jamie Burrows in the 1st team
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I agree burrows could be a big player for rangers
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Rip the league up - get a grip.
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Totally agree with you m8 burrows would score goals better player than some off the first team that's playing week in week out ... Kenny the bigot
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He looks like a machine for his age. Worth giving a go.
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Is the original post by Jamie Burrows?
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Are you jamie burrows by any chance?lol *ksd*
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Ask why no young players are getting a fair crack? the truth is out there
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Hopefully we've unearthed a gem there.
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Totally agree he looks a real good player and he should get in our first team so wot if he is 17 all the big teams play there young players at this age about time we started doing it not wen they get to 20 21 thats to late then they get sold for peanuts 17 18 thats when they should be in team
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10 Feb 2012 16:35:26
whats alistair johnstons plan ? ..ok he investigates takeover and finds something wrong then what .unless he has some rich americans willing to invest £100m or he has £100m in his back bin whats he going to do ....bigt
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It might not be Johnson or Murray but the support needs some sort of credible figurehead to get behind to generate some sort of momentum to recovery the club. No matter what way this ends, at some point in the future, we (the fans) are going to need to invest in the club in some form even if it is a share issue or similar to bring some kind of balance and investment back to the club. The key is that it must be someone who the fans can trust. The model was set by Celtic but the stake is alot higher now. I refuse to beleive there are not 10,000 fans out there prepared to invest 10k.
Its time to find and promote a new leader.
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You want fans to give Whyte any of our money.
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No, but there needs to be someone
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10 Feb 2012 16:32:27
Ed, whats the deal with Aluko? Noticing a lot of rumours that he is joe the toff. Are these more made up rumours?
TTG {Ed014's Note - I don't know about any rumours but he can leave the club in the summer or even sign a precontract with another club just now.The option in the summer works both ways,the player or club can refuse a full time deal.
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Thought gers had the option of a two year contract at the end of the season..... {Ed014's Note - Yes the player and club must agree to it though.Aluko could refuse the terms,or Rangers could have let him go if the move hadn't worked out.
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Sone Aluko must stay at Rangers,the lad will only get better,i can see him helping big bad Daniel score some goals,Ally get him signed up.
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10 Feb 2012 16:15:16
Anybody any idea why Martin Bain would be going into the offices of the PFA? I thought he would be in hiding and not shown his face in glasgow!!
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He,s going for a sunbed with tommy sheridan ....bigt
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Probably. He had this massive knee length bright red jacket on, add that to his stupid tan and he really did look like the t**t that he is!!
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10 Feb 2012 16:13:02
why doesnt ally go for hitzelsperger hes a free agent at moment after being released from west ham he would be an excellent signing 4 the champs
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Probably because hes a former german international with 52 caps looking for 20 grand a week or so....we can hardly offer cousin 7.5 a week,this might have something to do with it..
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Well other than the fact that he plays for wolfsberg, he signed a 3 year deal in august, might have something to do with it... plus he would want too much in wages. wake up and smell the coco we arent gonna sign anyone for 10k+ a week!
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We struggled to give cousin 5,000 couldnt get carlos and could afford jagger wage no chance we could afford his i would love to see it but we need to be realistic
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Hes not a free agent... he signed for wolfsburg in the summer...
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10 Feb 2012 14:42:36
cousin will do a turn for us. im positive. i would be far more confident with him as a lone striker than healy all day long, especially when we go to parkhead. he has a physical presence, good movement and a proven goal scorer. age is irrelevant, hes our best and possibly only option at the minute.
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Good signing if you fancy the long ball again, once lafferty comes back upfront the ball will have snow on it the amount of times it will be in the air, allys tactics are rotten.
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Imo once again a decent post from j1985.im in agreeance there mate.
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35 year old dud he aint a goalscorer
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Last time he had Miller for company,i cant see Cousin running about the way Miller did.I think he will only score 3 or 4 goals between now and end of season.
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Jungle Bhoy, think about it before you post. Miller was signed at the start of the 2008 transfer window and Cousin left at the end of the same window so at most they played about 3 games together. And on another subject, why do so many celtic fans feel the need to read and comment on our pages, I for one have absolutely no interest in reading theirs !!!
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Please! The Gers are in deep deep trouble! How many goals did the big man score last time? And that was in 2008! Last one out turn off the lights!
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This time he will hopefully have Hemmings to do his running
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What is it with celtic fans debating on how many cousin will score we don't care what you think on our players there's no debate where there's bias, as for j1985 agree 100% he is big strong will nock defences about get a few goals, and more importantly IMO will allow players like aluko mervan davis and healy to feed of him getting nock on's and so on, lets be honest no reason why we can't go unbeaten with cousin and laffs up top!*ksd*
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Im pretty sure miller never partnered cousin. miller joined the summer after cousin left i seem to recall. as for not being a goalscorer?? 11 in 28 appearences in his previous spell...decent return for someone whos not a goalscorer.
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This guy's a dud, and at 120 grand for 4 months, in a pursuit of a title thats gone, a just think it's stupid beyond belief! Why not just use this season to bring on youth that we will defo need nxt season, allys as much to blame as whyte, he should put his hands up and walk as he knows we cant afford to bump him
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Im a Celtic fan, I only come on to stir it a we bit, just like rangers fans do on our ones! A like the banter and thats all, rangers are awfull just like Celtic were in the early nineties, I grew up through it, constantly getting abused, now I couldn't be happier! Btw there wasn't such a hoo ha when we were going bust, take yer medicine hill billies
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J1985, you are wrong m8, they played in the 4v2 humbling at the Farmyard when Cousin scored and was wrongly red carded at the end of his Rangers career ( short as it was ) AGer63
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I believe Cousin scored 11 in 28 appearances...not exactly an amazing strike rate....
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Worth a gamble guys solid would have celtic defence trembling wi just brute force
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Fair enough he played a few games with miller but the guy made out he played week in week out. im guessing we signed miller in aug n cousin left in the same month, hardly time to form a partnership is it? as for 11 goals in 28 app.... like i said decent not amazing but do u remember 2 of his goal in particular??
lyon away, lone striker up against CL quality defenders, bossed them all night long. scored a cracking finish from a tight angle to beat the keeper at his near post. if memory serves me right he had a great assist for beasly in the same game. held off a defender on the touchline near halfway line n pinged a pass right into beasleys path to make it 3nil.
celtic at parkhead. bullied the right back down the left flank, held him off for about 25 yards before again finishing from a tight angle.
he'll be wanting to finish on a high n winning a league title is more than achievable.
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No reason to go unbeaten. Are you absoulty mad, hard even in glory days to go unbeaten in half a season but a dud team its impossible.
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Dont forget we still gt solid defence midfield a wee dit weak bt if ally can gt cousin playin aluko something to aim at maybe wilde n davis performing more than capable of winning
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Agree with j1985 totally, positive all the way ! cousin will do us a turn in the league for the last 3 months, the physical presence he will bring should be a plus i would reckon. its a gamble worth taking, and with laff on the way back all may not be lost just yet bears
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10 Feb 2012 13:52:12
Ed... Or anyone else... Did you see on stv news that alistair johnston is calling for the government insolvency agency to investigate craig whytes rangers takeover and murray group are seeking the same answers? What does all this mean? Im starting to worry that this guy is going to line his own pockets in any way possible and leave us dying in the gutter.
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One thing the previous board would know is how much cash it requires to run Rangers. This is something that they raised in the letter to shareholders when Whyte purchased Rangers, namely that they did not believe that Whyte had the funds to operate Rangers.
It now looks like takeover and day to day running of the club are matters where there are too many unanswered questions and areas of concern and the old board and Murray feel strongly enough to ask for this to be independently investigated.
You do have to temper this though, as there is an agenda with the old board to dislodge Whyte from Rangers and resume control.
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Thanks for backing up my previous post, its funny how you get shot down for passing on legit info
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10 Feb 2012 14:32:39
Listen folks what other options were there? Stick with Healy on his own? Cousin will give us a physical presence that Healy cant. At the start of the season I would have laughed at the prospect of Cousin signing but we are desperate.
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Well said mate.
We are not in a position of choice right now. We don't have two buttons to rub together. It gives us another option and he will give us a physical Presence.
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It's obvious we don't have many options but nonsense saying you wouldn't take cousin at start of season, I would shagger whitts goian boca papac aluko davis edu naismith, jelavic and cousin that team would destroy spl defences including the tims shaky back 4 *ksd*
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Our shaky back 4 who have you been watching lately and desperate is the right word for yous bb1 LMAO at some of the other comments yous make the best one being hitzelsperger get real and cousins over the hill mate
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Lets be honest here cousins a donkey always was always will be. He had two or three good games max 4 us we had a physical prescense at parkhead last time we played them in jelavic and he couldnt do nothing cos we simply havent got any1 to create chances untill naismiths back in the team
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10 Feb 2012 14:19:53
Ed has cousin signed or what? {Ed014's Note - Not quite.They are awaiting international clearance.
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Ha apparently waiting on a fax aswell ! PaulRFC
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He has agreed personel terms and is on 25% of what he was on in his first spell
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10 Feb 2012 13:35:58
the murray group has asked the insolvency service to look into the takeover of rangers by craig whyte
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Why? that would then involve them in the whole mess re; due dilligence,fit and proper persons.they themselves have enough financial worries.cant understand this at all.
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Desmot Dermond has appointed an ad-hoc takeover committee to exlore the possibility of taking over Rangers and asset stripping them and relegating them as far as he can...see..look..anyone can talk sh**e
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Only posting what was on the scottish news earlier today, dont shoot the messenger
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Seen the piece about Johnson never seen or herd anything about Murray Group
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10 Feb 2012 12:54:00
why dont we play wallace at right back and wylde at left mid
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FFS don't you think there are enough players playing out of position in that team!
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Because Wallace is a left back/midfielder
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Because papac is a better right back than Wallace (in my opinion). PaulRFC
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My heads up my a!se... Just claimed papac to be better than Wallace at right back.... Maybe if he was a right back he would be ! DUH. PaulRFC
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Because Wallace is a left back and Wylde is rotten to be honest mate.
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Because he is a left back
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Wtf thank god your not the Rangers manager you would have us hung out to dry ffs
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EDU played at R.B for AMERICAN NATIONAL TEAM?
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I personal dnt no why ally plays wlyde on the left and aluko on the right gives the team option to snt the ball to these two no they can get past the defence
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I'm with the guy that said Wylde is wrotten. He's completely unable to cross a ball and if the gates were open he'd run out them, now that's an idea!!
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Yeah i'll join the bandwagon by saying that wylde is aweful. as for papac, i have never been a fan but he is the best left back option we have.
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Play papac at left back and wallace in midfeild . ally has tryed this the other way b4 and never worked and the same last week and went wrong again
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10 Feb 2012 11:56:50
If Cousin does well for us until May I don't see any reason why he can't stay with us for another season.
He is a physcial presence and it would seem that he keeps himself in decent shape.
35 is not that old in the modern game.
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Hear what you're saying mate, but let's let the guy get in the door first eh!
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No 35 isn`t old as davie weir proved....
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Davie weir sat on the 18 yard line and kicked people and headed away balls. Striker is much different, need to be able to run for 90 minutes.
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Ryan Giggs is 38 and still cutting it in the EPL, i am in no way comparing Cousin to Giggs, just pointing out that it can be done, Kevin Phillips is another example.
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You are all deluded daniel cousin was rubbish before and he will be worse now and davie weir was an old leech leeching money from the club.
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Listen guys,Cousin was poor for us last time but then again players can be better with experience. Larsson was poor at 25 but playing for barca at 35.He aint no larsson but just a point
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I watched him at acon and he didnt look that bad putting himself about and chasing the ball down for the whole game so no worries on that front
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Kevin Phillips is doing not bad considering he's a 38 year old striker, so Cousin will be the same. Cousin is better than who we have available at the moment, he offers us a presence, he can hold the ball up, bring others into play and he can find the net. Given our current scenario, the signing of Cousin is a no brainer.
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Giggs and Scholes are 38 and in the EPL, so a carthorse like Cousin could easily handle another full season against the gash in the SPL.......Yes - NO Lol ! HE@S A LAST RESORT M8............AGer63
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Saw him at african cup of nations, he has put on the pounds.
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10 Feb 2012 09:57:25
I was just on the rangers home page there and it said that matt mckay could go back to australlia as the australlian transfer window is about to open up
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Funnily enough i cant see that and the reports this morning suggest he's not willing to let him go and could feature soon
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Brisbane Roar also said that they were unwilling to pay a fee to Rangers, so that deal was dead, rangers would want a fee should he go on loan and Roar said no, so no deal!
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That's not exactly the whole story. McCoist has said that its looking increasingly unlikely that he'll go back because the aussie transfer window shuts in about a week. He also said McKay played a bounce game midweek and did very very well. Muzz
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10 Feb 2012 09:15:07
I think all of the ex-Rangers board members who have since gone on to slag off Rangers and/or try and get as much money out of the club as possible are hypocrites and not Rangers fans. It was the previous regime which got Rangers into the mire so it is pathetic that they should now be sticking the knife in. Celtic fans are understandably gloating but they should beware - should Rangers go on to win their 4th SPL title in a row, what excuse could Celtic possibly have? I wouldn't write Rangers off just yet. Given the injury problems we've had, it hasn't helped, but a team that could turn out soon might be: MCGREGOR; BARTLEY, GOIAN, BOCANEGRA, PAPAC; MACKAY, NESS, DAVIS, WYLDE; HEMMINGS, COUSIN. I reckon that team could do well in the run in and let's not forget that Rangers and Celtic have to play each other twice more before the end of the season - that's six points at stake. Celtic are not nearly as good as they and the media like to make out and their bubble will burst soon.
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Take out Ness and Mackay and put in Edu and Aluko. And Healy is more likely to start than Hemmings. Also Whittaker when fit will be right back.
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Did you watch Celtic demolish Hearts at tynecastle? If Celtic play like that against Rangers it will be surprising if the score isnt double figures.
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Not one of that lot would even get onto the celtic bench
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Shut up rangers will be lucky 2 still be close 2 celtic by the tme the next old firm game is played as for cousin the less said about that the better lol 17.000 at last game so loyal
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Its funny how the celtic fans have short memories not so long ago there stadium was empty and they where all wanting rid of lennon and if they dont win the title what will that say about them
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Your forgetting there's probably a 10 point deduction between now and seasons end
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I'm blue to the core and even i would admit that the league is beyond us, and as much as it pains me to say this apart from between the sticks celtic are better and stronger than us in every department. their subs would walk into our first team. this sums up the total mess our club is in. i would forfeit the leage title if it meant our clubs survival.
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Celtic not as good as the media suggest? So 17 in a row isn't good enough? I guess we'll have to try harder, but as they say you can't please everyone.
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With regard to the likes of Martin Bain trying to get as much money as possible out of the club. Lets not foget he was effectively sacked by Craig Whyte.
No matter what your feelings are for the club sacked is sacked and if it happens to you, you want compensation.
The club holds players to their contracts why shouldn't the directers do the same with the club!
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Rangers fans you are deluded if you think this present squad have one ounce of quality in it. you are about level with a hibs or dundee u
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Celtic's attendance was never anywhere near as low as 17000 mate, I dont think it got below 40 but if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.
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In response to the 17000 at Ibrox comment, it's important to remember there is a recession, the tickets were expensive and the game itself was on BBC.
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Gers fans should be more positive and get behind the team and manager. By the way, to the one who posted, Celtic have had crowds below 15,000 before and not that long ago. Celtic fans indeed have a short memory!
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If i remember collectly were celtic fans not at some stage playing to a home crowd of 10,000. such short memories!
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Everyone asking Whyte for more information he should start with what salaries each and every one of the old board took out the club.
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Rangers crowd was 17,000 because the tickets werent part of the season tickets, it was early on a sunday and it was on BBC. When celtics crowd was as low it was people not bothering to turn up!
As far as celtic ripping Hearts apart, Did you see the hearts team? They are in as bad a state as rangers if not worse!!
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Too many irrelevancies!!
Being better than Celtic this season is worth nothing if you dont have a club next season."Bhoy with person mates"
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10 Feb 2012 09:11:06
i dont care if rangers win SPL or r in last 16 of champions league i want to sign for hull ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dainel couson ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
just b4 he left u last time
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And your point is?
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I only want to sign for Celtic - Mo Johnston. Remember him. Put you to lot the sword.
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Hmmmmmm...Hull offered more money and the chance to play in a far, far superior league.
What would you do?!
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Its 'Ull not Hull
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Now we are the ones in need. He said he wants to do his friend Ally Mcoist a favour as thats what friends do. Thats enough for me.Welcome back Daniel
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Welcome back Daniel,strut your stuff one more time for Rangers,we need a lift,good luck,and thanks
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Who cares man, thats in the past, he regrets it now wants to redeem himself at the best team, he has unfinished buisness and wants a league medal before he retires!
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I Heard He Knocked Back 15k With Birmingham Because He Want To Help Ally And Rangers All I Can Say Is Welcome Back Big Man lol WATP RonnyBoy
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He knocked back more money to play in the championship it shows how decent a guy he really is he also stated he missed rangers and life in scotland also come back when you can spell Daniel Cousn :D
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10 Feb 2012 09:07:19
One question that has never been asked. If we do go into administration what happens to all the seats that were bought through the debenture scheme.
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Good point! I have had two seats since the scheme started and I am expecting that I will have to write them off.
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Debenure holders are first priority and it is estiamted at 8 million that would automatically be paid out. There is an adminsitration clause in the debenture agreement that means those fans get there money back as soon as club goes into administration
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And the bricks - - would we get our bricks back ;-))
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If we take the bricks back the place will fall down lol
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You get to take your seats home with you.Might look good in front of your tv.
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Debenture holders are not firts priority. Craig Whyte has a 1st ranking security over Ranger's assets and as such he gets paid first, even before HMRC.
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Debentures repayments are an automatic response to the club going into administration.
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10 Feb 2012 09:06:13
Reading the comments about us owing money for mervin celic if rangers don't have the money why sign him . Every time we pick up the papers we owe this we owe that . Whyte does not want to pay anybody let's stop this sh.t keep our pride ... Kenny
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I think MC has now seen the state we are in and is working his ticket already - what next ffs!
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Just send him back cause he ain't worth the hassle. i know hw only played 45 mins against utd but still he looked hopeless.
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10 Feb 2012 09:03:39
aluko set to sign for derby..(pre contract) he,s always wanted a move 2 england 2 b near his family
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Aluko has signed for nobody as rangers have first refusal on him...
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First refusal to whom ? he is in charge of his own destiny
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Maybe its fate for him to go to england
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Oh no how can we cope if we lose him laudrap, gazza, goram , mccoist, hateley, gough, butcher , albertz and now the best of them all aluko.
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First refusal on a free agent? That is a new one on me.
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The best uv got now...... he could,nt get a game for aberdeen FFS
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10 Feb 2012 08:24:34
Just when i thought we couldnt sink any lower i have been hearing some disturbing stories.
1) Rangers offered Cousin a 7K a week contract verbally then changed it to 5K - if true shocking business
2) Rangers are trying to wriggle out of compensation for Celik with his former club GAIS despite them providing documentation about his contract offer. If the cash isnt paid within 30 days of the transfer he will return to GAIS and Rangers will face UEFA sanctions.
3) Aluko has had contract offers from Derby, Ipswich and another Championship club who can almost certainly put together a better package than Rangers.
The club is turning into a laughing stock!
Ed - Have you any info on these stories?
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10 Feb 2012 00:45:36
daniel cousin agrees a deal for £7,500 a week till end of season
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Has that been confirmed mate... telling ya now he's not worth that as I posted earlier.. PaulRFC
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Says so in the sun,seeing as the mhedia have an agenda against the rangers why should fans believe it?if he signs it only shows sheer desperation tbh.
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He has agreed in principle to join though from what everbody who is listening hears is that craig Whyte is not interested in signing him as Hemmings, kerkar and healy are all current options (3 strikers). Whytes mantra is that he's given McCoist alot of money in the summer and he's pretty much wasted it as he doesn't play anybody except Wallace..and Aluko now too.
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Birmingham offer 20,000 a week
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For a wage of 7500 could have signed some body younger and better than cousin ... Kenny
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Aye, its in the sun and when u r as short up front as us he is worth it. Healy or Cousin? mmm, thats a hard one. I would like to see Cousin and Lafferty start in the next oldfirm game, a bit of height and presence which we have been lacking.
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We sold him for a ridiculously low price before and I think if his attitude is right he will be a very good signing. Has power in abundance and will cause SPL defences plenty of problems. The BBC report he is tuning down 20k a week at birmingham city so give the guy a chance.
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Wow!! Can't believe how things have turned around for us..... Wot a super signing
maybe we should get super ally to pull on a shirt aswell, that would stop the tic laughing? .......
P@%#d aff blue nose.. 4 in a row
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Dont talk gash he was accepting 5k a week! and craig whyte has not contacted his agent to confirm! usual crap!
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I love this notion that Rangers are being targeted unfairly by the media. Succulent Lamb anyone?
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Cousin is not turning down 20 grand for 5 grand at a dying club, thats why he left in the first place.
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10 Feb 2012 00:09:13
More on this celik 800k p!sh .. I heard we could even get him for nothing because he never got offered a written contract by the swedes it was only verbal an even if they say they did offer a written one there is no evidence of them doing so. If that's the case then we should defo persue getting him for free an use the 250k to put towards alukos new contract... Ed have you heard that about celik no getting a written offer. PaulRFC {Ed014's Note - GAIS have supplied written documents they offered him a contract.
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Oh well so much for that thought then ! cheers ed
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Have you no shame, in the words of jim royle dignity my arse
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In fact send him back.
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I thought the money due from bendiksen was to cover this?
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As for there being no evidence they offered him a contract, the player himself has apparently confirmed that they did. What more evidence would they need.
On a personal note they developed the player so why shouldn't they be rewarded!
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