Rangers Rumours Archive July 14 2012

14 Jul 2012 22:04:58
I posted on here this week that Brown was going to drop a Block Buster. As far as i was aware it was going to be about who own's Ibrox.

I did not no anymore information other than that it was just a Rumour.

Just scrolled down tonight and have seen a rumour that Sevco: owned by zeus who are owned by Octopus who are owned by ...Ticketus!

Is this the ownership issue Brown was talking about?


Anybody got any info on this?

Octopus own Ticketus, see website this is in public domain. Zeus are financial advisors to SEVCO, nothing more.

Glasgow city centre hotel. Sunday 15th 2pm. Brown holding a meeting. All will be reviled.

If is at 2:00pm as you say, he will be 10 sheets to the wind! Good luck in listening to his gibberish diatribe.

Fair play to ticketus if they are involved.... they were shafted by Whyte, Murray and Lloyds Bank so you couldn't fault them for trying to get some of it back.

Crivvens! He'll be on his 3rd bottle by 2 o clock. Somebody stop him.

All will be "reviled" - was that intentional? It means "to assail with abusive language"!

Why should anyone be surprised (or offended) if Ticketus are indeed the ultimate owners?

They were shafted for �20 million or so.... can't be surprised that they want to find a way to get it back.

Oh great, another conspiracy theory, just what we need.

Anorak.

Yeah if you meant to say reviled that was pretty accurate. If you meant to say revealed it was pretty funny.

So no bombshell dropped, what did happen at the meeting at 2 pm?

14 Jul 2012 18:24:32
Heard from a very reliable source that Ally's targetting a few players from the SPL and hıgher SFL leagues to bulk up hıs squad ... Kari Arnasson, Davıd Lilley, Suso Santana, Rudi Skacel and young Peterhead forward Rory McCallister.

South African Bear. {Ed039's Note - The same young Peterhead forward Rory McAllister who is actaully 25 years old and the same Kari Arnasson who has signed a 2 year deal with Rotherham)

Stop being stupid. get real and accept no one would come down to play with also rans. its a level which suits a newco. once appeal is heard on court ruling sevco will be suspended for one year. so there will be no players on the books whatsoever

Lord Carloway has no option but suspension for a year as punishment for the quantum of footballing crimes.
There's SPL sanctions to come also if Rangers ever get back there. SPL Lawyers said the double contracts broke registration rules. Expect titles to be stripped.

No new players needed. expect to see alot of young lads you have never heard of.

This is a great opportunity to create a team from scratch. Hopefully new talent will come through.

Why would lord carloway punish newco they have done nothing wrong.

Hail hail

Marco1888

14 Jul 2012 17:18:44
To all gers fans that think spl clubs cant survive without rangers sky tv money
how can you then prosper in sfl 3.
Contradiction all the time.
Teams cant survive with gates of few thousand your going to survive with 600 away gamea.
Who going to peterhead or ibrox in january to watch that in the snow ice filled motorways.
Who wunts to watch ictfc ross county etc play celtic.
Yous are the joker of the pack.
History tranafer.sure baxter cooper memory delighted with that.
The quicker yous realize the only show in town in scotland is celtic

Ask yourself this numb nut....how much operating costs are the gers going to have with players on a maximum of �1K per week? We have a large fan base that will turn up to all home games. The gate is not split 50-50 for these games either. Compare that to the operating costs of SPL teams. Players on between �3K - �30K per week. See where m going with this? That is why Rangers will prosper.

We can and will survive. There will still be sponsorship of rangers, although not as much - players wages will be realistic and we cut our cloth accordingly.
The same fans will go to peterhead as went to Aberdeen or anywhere else.
You would be better spending your time wondering if your team is gonna get past the Qualifiers for europe, if you don't get that cash then reality bites.

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Celtic fan on another rant cause The Mighty Glasgow Rangers just will not go away. Look you tried your best to get rid of us. Every team in Scotland has had a kick at us, now let us get on with playing football. we have no problem at all with playing in the third, in fact we quite welcome the chance to inject some much needed cash into the lower divisions. We will be back though and we will be stronger than ever, now crawl on back under that stone of yours {Ed039's Note - Watch the responses .......... dont you know Rangers, dont exist, they are dead blah blah blah. Here we go again)

They may be the only show in scotland in your eyes but i know 50,000 that dont agree with you
were not being daft of course we will struggle but we will re emerge with our heads held high......oh yes
i will be buying a season for me and my son even if we cant go, as its a must we get thro the next 2 seasons to set up the next big hurdle of getting back into spl if its still there?

Celtic fan here, do us all a favor and keep your horribly made point to yourself. scottish football is at risk of imploding yet all we want to do is score points against each other, pathetic

"One show in town" That is the problem now with the SPL. Tell me of one other one team league in the world, you can't because there isn't any. The novelty will wear off with you guys and you will be gagging for some proper competition.

Home teams keep gate money, does not matter how many at away games. Let's see how many Celtic have in January against dundee when the league is over.

Di-k head our home games will be full we do not get � from away games rangers till i die

Wow, what language is this? I would agree or disagree if I could decipher this gibberish.

Hardly contradiction all the time reduced wages in the 3rd division possibly still gettin over 40000 at home games as for away games we never got any money for away games in the spl anyway so not gettin it in the 3rd wont make a difference

You're obsessed with your hatred, little one.
The simple fact is that there will be around �80m less over the next five years in Scottish football as a result of Rangers in D3.
Rangers have lost players that cost big money and will replace with players who will cost less, that is logical.
With a large supporter base, Rangers will attract income / sponsorship that keeps the club ticking over nicely to live within the means.
If there is still an ICT by Christmas, I will be surprised as they rely on the big money payments during the year to stay alive, as do St Mirren, Motherwell, etc.
Hearts couldn't pay wages last year before Rangers fell into money problems and Aberdeen have shut down their academy, laying staff off in the close season before any announcement, so they were feeling the pinch.
Celtic will have the SPL won early and may even win by default if other clubs can't field a team or simply go out of business.
Trust me, your rantings mean very little as they are based on nothing more than conjecture and your obsessive hatred.
We'll be fine at Ibrox and concentrating on our club getting back to whatever is left of the top flight when we get there.

Only show in town ? yes your right cos as ive said before in a years time you will only have 4 teams solvent in the spl ,so 1 show in glasgow and 1 show else where ,lets see you laugh at that mr double numb nut doug t.s.o

There is no doubt Celtic will suffer crowd reductions due to the absence of serious competition, this plus the absence of Sky money will have an effect on the park.
Forget any European run, Celtic are going nowhere very fast, nor is Scottish football, the whole thing is a shambles.

Anorak.

Scottish cup 4th Round vs Dundee Utd. 17,000 fans. A week later you went into Administration bcause money ran out. Trust me 50,000 of the peepul are not gonna show up week in week out for the likes of Annan Athletic.

Well I hope that the new Rangers get enough fans to fill the ground and pay ticketus who have first dibs on 30k tickets every home game for 4 seasons {Ed039's Note - No they dont, they have no deal with Sevco)

Sorry Timothy, Clearly you are not business minded.
Wages for whole squad will be approx �25k and that's double the highest paid outside the SPL.
Now a conservative estimate of 20,000 bears at say �15 a game equates to �300,000 x 18 = �5.4m
Now the fact that Sky/Espn and others will want exclusive rights to the Rangers Reborn story probably culminating in another �1m+ any Cup run money and we are in the �7m+ category with I would anticipate �3m total running costs not to mention sponsorship, Pies,matchday hospitality, friendlies, Pies and bovrils and any nominal fees we may receive and with us being debt free.
We could potentially Net �5m next season not to mention investment in a new debt free enterprise.
Next season will be double and by time we meet the Bottlers again we will have a few �m and let's be honest you can buy the title for �10m easy.
Meanwhile SPL clubs out with Ceptice have wages bill reduced by approx 80% so the lack of quality will never be more evident meaning that coupled with Rangers 1872 demise and their Coeffiecient score removed from Scotlands Coefficient means 1 place in Champs league in qualifying round 1 0f 4 for the champs and the lack of competition and quality in SPL means any decent players you have are off.
Since we have been relegated we have had Hooper saying he is leaving on a bosman in 2 years, Wanyama instructing the club to let him speak to ANY club who enquires about him and urges them to accept any decent bids and Foster taking 8 weeks to declare that he wanted to sign and only after receiving �8k more than 1st offered.
I am looking forward to a new adventure and challenge Genuinely don't think you can pretend to be as excited with your predictable boring season, we will still have our usual 2 visits to Hampden this season at least!
Theglasgowranger {Ed039's Note - Calculators are the ready)

Cant see spl teams being able to adjust to the huge loss in revenue overnight. Even Celtic will find it a challenge, but they have a big fan base to turn to. No Rangers means greatly reduced revenue, and the numbers just don't add up! Money will have the final say, not sporting integrity alone.

Your dead right. next season will be tricky. i expect several spl clubs will have a player clear out to reduce running costs. wells chairman has already expressed his cocern. my money is on hrarts to be tge first to crumble. romanov will be off.

3 million running costs ?

Dream on, try 15 million, you can't turn a superstore into a cornerhop, a slimmed down version maybe 10 million. 20,000 fans at �15 a pop won't pay the bills.

Anorak.

Celtic isn't actually a town my friend - Craigy Bear

I AS ONE AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS FROM THE JOHN GREIG LOYAL (BOWLING) ARE SO LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR NEW TRAVELS , WE WERE BROUGHT UP FOLLOWING A kak RFC AND PERSONALLY NEVER SAW THE Rangers win the tittle until i was 17 at pittodrie, born in 70 and first title i saw was 87, but had a season ticket for 6 years before, I even went to a secondary school that had more , dundee utd, aberdeen , hearts and celtic supporters than Rfc, Vale of Leven academy, unfortunately so many of they w**kers became RFC supporters when it became good. but by god did we have good times, so let the fair weather fans walk away, but i can guarantee you the real bears will always follow follow and i as one will be there ...

Listen to yourselves? Because the images you paint of a none compedative spl because rangers won't be there will be mirrored in the SFL because you are in them? So you think Celtic fans will stop going to paradise because the league will be too easy with no competition but you think rangers fans will turn up in their tens of thousands to watch you run over everyone to get back to the spl !
Did you go to ibrox when you were buying success and had no honest competition ?
SJG

Yeh, yeh, yeh, everybody will go bust and everybody will fall into the gutter and be mired in sh@t. But remember who fell first and how far you have fallen. You will claw your way back to the top. That is not doubted. But when you do you will find the champions waiting to send you back.
See you soon.
Ps. Is it true you are allowed a choice of either a blade or knuckle dusters in the 3rd div.

Theglasgowranger:

I take it you don't see your team whatever they are to be called running away through the divisions then? I would have thought most supporters of your team would be thinking that you's will run away with league 3,2 & 1. Will that not be a one horse race numb nuts?............

In Sally we trust :-)

Hoopey67

The wage bill may be lowered but the running costs still remain a constant (which will only increase) and a large investment on the playing staff is required (which increases with every division step up). I dont see green or his investors accepting losses every year, and where the fella above got his figures showing �m of profit every year has a head full of broken bottles. jj

Were you one of the few thousand who still went to 'paradise' when mobray was in charge... plenty of walking away was done then... and that isnt us my friend!!

Ed did you say ticketus have no claim to servico,s ticket money , why is that ? could it be because the team that owes them it wont exist anymore very soon ? im surprised at you being an ed on these sights as most of the other eds are honest about their teams good or bad and dont play to the crowd , face it if your new team wins a trophy it will be your first , no one can take your history away but it will never be added to , fab1

Your right again Ed Rangers dont exist they died in 2012 exactly 100 years after the titanic but at least that was an horiffic accident not deliberate like your lot roll on season 2012 - 2013 and the champions league, take some advice Ed Annan away is always a tough game.

In all these posts the only word thats has any sense is' conjecture'. No one knows how many season books will be sold to Sevco or what the financial impact will be on Scotish football. Can we not just try and get on with football and see how things pan out. All this about clubs going to the wall etc is P*sh. Lets start following our teams in whatever division. Good luck to them all. Hbhoy

All you clowns are forgetting that the spl has suddenly became a competitive league, and that every team now has a chance of european football instead of just aiming for a stupid top 6 place.

sky wont pull the plug, and if they did, they'd have to pay a termination fee...usually 70% of the remainder of the contract. and if you believe they can get out of it because deadco aren't involved, then that raises questions of match fixing and fraud, something deadco specialise in;)

if sky did pull out, and compensation is paid...another broadcaster would simply take over, maybe slightly less than the sky deal, but not a major factor in clubs finances as some would lead you to believe (works out at roughly �3840 per game)

season ticket sales are already improved on last years fugures

newco aren't guaranteed promotion by a long shot, they already have overheads of �6m per month....how can division 3 football, with no decent amount of sponsorship sustain this? even spl teams struggle with this kind of outlay

season tickets will be sold according to pricing structures for sfl3 league status, so even if you have 40k st holders, the clubs' income will be a tiny fraction of what is required to keep a govan team playing at ibrox, training at moonbeams park and paying players their FULL (pre-admin) wage.

there's only one thing that's going to go bust......and that is sevco 5088.....NOT the spl, NOT the sfl, and NOT scottish football


taco

The best thing to come out of all this is that the green brigade who have been pulling the strings were too thick to notice the Club that will be most effected will be Selk. Despite taking aprox �4 mil of this years wage bill it will still be between 30 and 35 mil when probably a wage bill of less than 10 mil will cruise the depleted SPL. Furthermore, the mighty Selik flopped drastically in Europe, both Champs League and UEFA Cup with a much larger squad and a 39.6 mil wage bill......and all you dumb tims can expect further squad and wage bill reductions, that is the players that you havnt signed up on 20 to 30 thousand pounds a week. These players must be the most overpaid in world football, massive running costs coupled with dwindling gates because you are bored by October spell the most dangerous time ever for your Club, Law%ll talks sh%te! By the way how do you all feel about paying the full price for your season tickets? Anything less than 45,000 plus at full price for the next 4 years will put you under, can you garuntee it lol?

In years to come the most ridiculous statement attributed to this whole crisis will be Ally McCoist's "we don't do walking away" speech.

I have been watching old firm games for over 40 years, and one of my most abiding memories of the games that Celtic have won is the Rangers fans leaving in droves 10 or 15 minutes before the end.

Let's be honest "Walking away is exactly what you do!" - Randolph

Have to laugh at all non rangers fans now as it will soon become apparent that their financial problems are fairly significant. Administrations looms for many. Rangers in the 3rd will still have significantly larger crowds than anyone outside Glasgow, they will still get sponsorship (less I accept) and who knows if some tv money -entirely possible. So here's how it will work. Rangers will climb out the 3rd and will soon be offering more in wages than anyone outside Celtic. So the standard of the other SPL and SFL will drop as we will be able to offer your players more than you can, and guess what....theybwont hang around spouting sporting integrity reasons for not joining rangers. Believe it as it will happen. We may even get quite a few on frees when you release them to cut your costs. Thank you and good night to many of you.

Taco.... u do no that the contract Sky have with the SPL is based on the fact that they get 4 oldfirm games out of it... the fact Rangers have not been voted back in changes that, therefor its the SPL breaking the contract not Sky so all this about Sky having to pay off the remander of the contract (70% u stated) is absolute garbage

Admin may come for many, but it will only be a points deduction, now if u assume Celtic win the league, then for many of these teams a points deduction will mean no difference, they will have the rest of the season to get out of admin and ultimately still play in the spl. Unlike rangers who had to be liquidated and drop to the basement of Scottish football.

�3m running costs that just shows how little knowledge you have. Ibrox itself needs repairs and updating which will costs millions.(already been well documented). Running costs for ibrox and murray park for a season at least double the crazy figures you spouted. you honestly think wallace mcculloch etc will be staying for about �1k a week dream on. We are in the position to sell Hooper, Wanyama, Ki, Izaguirre etc because a great scouting system buys them in for �1 to �2m and then sells them on for �7m plus then we just go and do it over again. Guarenteed champions league money for the forseable future (admit it you know we are going into the group stages this year. Oh yes we are really struggling. Just mind you lot will be watching us play the big boys this year in the house instead of going to Annan etc on a rainy Wednesday night. 10,000 at ibrox come September. Hail Hail.

14 Jul 2012 14:54:06
inverness ct now want to change their vote want rangers back in spl bbc radio scotland.

So whats the count now 10-1 and Kili no vote.

Gilmour at St Mirren has got his brown trousers now too. '5 SPL clubs in administration within weeks' we've only been away 24 hours.

Umm dont think you can actually do that unless another meeting is called. Then it would be 9-2-1 I suppose. Result = no change.

The ICT chairman seems intent on making a clown of himself in public. You had your chance last week to improve your finances but you voted to vote out Rangers. Fair enough.

No use whingeing after the event and believe me any attempt to plant Rangers back in the SPL really would be a disaster for your club's finances. You'd be playing in front of a few hundred fans only, so dry your eyes ya muppet, cut your cloth accordingly and get on with things, you've made your bed so lie in it.
Barney Bear

Admin in 2 weeks. Your havering mate. It will be the end of the season when (if any) clubs may be in trouble. I can see this being a common trend with Rangers fans. Sitting in 3rd Division just waiting on any news regarding missed payments or signs of SPL clubs possibly in financial trouble so you can feel vindicated with your doomsday predictions. Its pathetic. Get on with supporting your own team who (and it seems this has evaded most of you) are in more trouble than most of your former SPL peers.

Queue snide comment from ed...

Who gives a sh it they wont be back in it now

Nobody voted rangers out - rangers are in an insolvancy procee leading to liquidation.
sevco with no history or accounts applied for the vacant space in spl

ICT won't be a loss to Scottish football, FFS, tell the guy to grow a pair and go back to the SFL WHERE THEIR FOOTBALL STYLE BELONGS.

Re "Queue snide comment from Ed..."

Pot and Kettle springs to mind. Have the Celtic fans not sat in the SPL and waited on (and indeed actively sought) news of missed tax payments, dual contracts, etc and bullied the collective SPL chairmen into doing the right thing by threatening boycotts, not buying season tickets etc (out of interest will you be going to Killie or ICT next year now?) just so you can feel morally vindicated? You are right, it would be pathetic but this is also going to make interesting viewing for the SFL teams. Get on with supporting your own team (and league - they will need it) and leave our 'new' club alone. According to most Celtic posters we now have absolutely no connection to the former Rangers or, by association, Celtic whatsoever so what are you doing on this page at all?

Incidentally, I don't want to see any team go bust but the predictions that have been made should be concerning for the ENTIRE SPL. Ask the ICT, Motherwell, Killie, or St Mirren chairmen if they believe it will happen or not, they have looked at the figures and are clearly not impressed by what they saw. Then there is mad Vlad, how long will he hang around? Celtic, Hibs, and POSSIBLY a few others will ride out the storm the above clubs are expecting relatively unperturbed but will what is left of the SPL be worth anything to anyone concerned (TV, sponsors, will Div1 clubs even want to leave the security of the SFL for it to make up the numbers?). This is the most worrying time for Scottish football in living memory and I am over 40 years old. Of course we are going to watch from afar with interest just as everyone has watched our fiasco unfold (and it probably isn't finished yet). Everyone loves a good car crash except those involved in it and you are a liar if you say you wouldn't be doing the exact same if the roles were reversed. The main concern comes if any of these teams fail to complete their fixtures for the season. Duff and Duffer for all their faults at least got us to the end of the season when that wasn't looking very likely. What chance Killie, etc? Now that would cause chaos of biblical proportions. You guys better start filling out these grounds (inc home end), otherwise 'doomsday' is on the horizon and looming large.

Brian RFC

Ironically, if half these teams go to the wall too then it could EVENTUALLY (one or two decades probably) prove to be the best thing to ever happen to Scottish football. The SPL will be disbanded and we will return to one governing league body, much needed reconstruction may actually happen, youth might get its chance, and the clubs that do go bust will continue to reinvigorate the lower leagues on their journey back. See it is not all doomsday from Rangers fans - it is just going to be a very long, dark road to get Scottish football to the other side given the impact on coefficients etc.

14 Jul 2012 15:14:27
If the SFA and SPL go ahead with bringing us back to the SPL or into SPL 2, we as fans need to act. Where is 'sporting integrity' if they are now looking at SPL or SPL2. They either have to let us back in with the punishment we have no first team, and let us try to get loan players in, but no further punishments, as they veil of sporting integrity can no longer be used!
OR let us stay in Div3 and work our way back up.
The Rangers fans will not accept this veil of sporting integrity to add a list of penalties to us while keeping us in a higher division. The SPL clubs with their fans need to follow through on their obligations against Rangers and others who find themselves in financial trouble on a consistent basis.
If they do half the SPL might be making the 3rd Division a lot more competitive in the next few seasons.

The majority of scottish football decided to send us to division 3 for so called sporting integrity so as a bears fan i want to stay in div3 and work our way up the leagues i do not want any league reshuffle to help try and save the clubs that severly kicked us when we were down cant wait to see which club from the spl will go bust first

14 Jul 2012 08:06:52
Will Rangers TV be able to film all games from now on and keep their own TV money ie continue to broadcast live outwith Scotland and sell any footage at a high price back to Sky and others who will be desperate to follow the most interesting story in British football.

By the time the season has started the most interesting story in scottish football will be over. 3rd Division football and watching Rangers win 5,6,7-0 every week wont interest anybody.

No dont talk a load of s@~@~ the sfl own the rights

Typical arrogance knows no end. you have no team with the league a couple of weeks away and you assume your going to turn up and canter to easy wins every week with a team full of boys and has beens. i think a few embarassing days await

I am a rangers fan and i think we should be more worried about getting a team together to play at all never mind 5 6 - 0

How do you win 5-0,6-0 and 7-0 against teams that can field a full squad, substitutes and have been playing games for years on peanuts...

How many games has newco played... even friendlies... so far... none?

Do you even have a full squad yet?

dont count chickens... what happens if gers dont win thier league 3 ?

Sell the footage at a high price back to sky ?? when did yous start your own production company ? do you not know that its sky and the bbc who record the matches and sell the footage to you ?

Even with youngsters, if you have experienced players who have played at the top like Alexander, McCulloch, Lee Wallace, Broadfoot then you have Bedoya, K Hutton, Kane Hemmings, Ross Perry and some youngsters. Even that team would romp the 3rd Division, absolutely no question about it. The standard of the 3rd Division is no better than the top Junior league. Im from the other side and ive no reason other than common sense to tell you that Rangers will win the league by a mile. Its just common sense and understanding the game.

I made the post about the 5, 6, 7-0 wins every week for Rangers in the 3rd Division and i stand by it.

I would love someone on here to give me better odds than the bookies are.

How about Even money that Rangers win the league by 15 points or more.

NO, DIDNT THINK SO!

Your a Celtic fan ? pants I support Peterhead and watch this space RFC in what ever guise will not have it all teir own way

Win by 15 points...

are you including that penalties will mean they start on -30 (-10 for admin, -10 for liqudation, -10 for dual contracts) ???

also no signing ban ?? you including that?

Iam a Rangers fan and saying 5,0 6,0 7,0 thats a bit direspectfull to the Div 3 teams we haveht even played yet so come on guys a wee bit of respect,

Dual contracts - and what do the newco have in accordance to that?

And most people on here wonder why we are so despised , show respect, we can win the league but don,t you think every team in league will see us as a cup final, and we will have a very young team, think before you speak , we need to win friends not act like horrible w**kers like you

I too think it's gonna be tough and am looking forward to the rest of the 3rd giving us a game. cup final every game, bring it on. Lets get our young guys being competitive and adding a bit of metal to their game.

Like a cup final every week ?? what like the ramsden cup final or the juniors ??

13 Jul 2012 21:41:47
Ed any idea when the season ticket prices will be announced?
Spooky bear {Ed052's Note - I would think next week sometime

I believe if 35,000 season ticket holders renew their seats at the full price then the newco can survive the next 3 years.
Ticket prices can be reduced in seasons 2&3 when the euphoria dies down.
CG must take advantage now of the fans passions or else !

Anorak.

Agree with this but realistically speaking we have more chance of selling all tickets at the reduced price. Fans have been through enough.

40,000 season tickets will ensure that the clubs value increases to a level where Green and his investors can get a quick profit. They will then look to sell 50% to the fans for �50m and cream off the season ticket money as a pre-share offer dividend. When the club back in the SPL Green can sell the remaining 50% of the club for a larger profit. Leaving Gers with a mainly fans owned club but with a supporter base dry off money to invest in the club, as Green has walked away with it all. Leaving Rangers a mid-table player in the SPL at best, but having made Green a very rich man!

If 'GERS' could not make money and survive with 35,000+ season tickets at full price - how will they survive now in div3 0 with no sponsors, no cars, no tv money.....?

Green will take a salary no ?

Ally will be the most highly paid manager in div3.....

with penalties still pending.... even for a newco.... a team of 18 year olds still looks likely - dont think they will survive the turnip pitches at div 3... and getting walloped more often than the ball.

its div 3 ...., 4th div of scottish football, there is only 5-a-side below this....

Surpised the poster above doesnt have a degree in business with his inside knowledge of how things are going to pan out, got tonights lottery numbers?

@ "If 'GERS' could not make money...".

Think about it because it isn't difficult to work out. We will be far better off (initially at least) as the wage bill has been reduced by at the very least 80%. Wage costs are the financial crippler for all clubs and Rangers have gone from paying players between 12-28k PER WEEK (do the sums) down to (with the exception of one or two) at most 2k per week. If we maintain the majority of the support then we will not only be financially viable, we will be profitable with it. On top of that we WILL still have sponsors and some form of TV deal will be put in place (even if its a highlights package it will be additional income) to bolster the finances as the interest in this 'story' is so high and will remain so for at least a season. This exposure will benefit ALL of the teams in Division Three which, for once in recent times, is something we can actually be proud of as a club looking to move forward. We will also receive our share of the SPL pay-off (ironic as that sounds) for allowing the breakaway all those years ago. Financially, in my opinion, we are far better of in Div3 having lost the players we have, than being in Div1 with them (that would have been a struggle financially).

As for the 'turnip' pitches I think you may be pleasantly surprised. Take a look on the BBC Scotland website. The vast majority of these teams already have, or are in the process of laying, 3or4G pitches (come the start of the season I think us and 2 others will be the only ones playing on grass) so a smooth, flat surface will help the better passing teams in the Division and avoid fixture congestion due to call off's.

In the meantime the SPL will be shedding its sponsors and TV money whilst still paying the SFL its blood money and the players their exorbitant wages. It doesn't take a genius to work out where the 'doomsday scenario' came from and has gathered its legs. Ask the ICT chairman if you don't believe me, it is a very real prospect. Worry about that instead of us. We will be just fine, sanctions or not. In a season, maybe two, the SPL clubs (minus Celtic and a few other financially sound clubs) won't be able to say the same in my opinion. Do you see anything wrong with my logic Ed or have I missed this guy/galls point somewhere down the line?

Brian

13 Jul 2012 23:37:56
Any word on season tickets? I've been a fan all my life and due to living in Aberdeen with all the sheep sh@ggers have found it an extremely expensive duty to purchase a season ticket. Now that I realise this is my club and is in serious need of my finances, no matter how little I am looking into purchasing season tickets this year, anyone know the score? WATP.

Good point and got me thinking that some might not buy season tickets to watch 3rd div but how many who up till now couldn't afford a ST will now be able to plus fathers can now afford tickets for their kids.

BFH

I phoned the ticket office twice and they told me i was to phone on the 16th of july which is monday,dont no if it will be open as it is fair weekend in glasgow.i will phone just in case but probably be tuesday cheers .rtid

Not such a good point with all the cut price season tickets how are you going to fund your rapid rise from the ashes ? The big old hoose can't run on fresh air !

Good for you mate. Rangers fans need to show solidarity and proove what a massive club you are. Also think you ought to tell the sfa where to stick div 3 and come down and play in England. My club wolves went through similar turbulent times in the 80's and good luck for next season.

UNlike ALLY looks like GREEN &COcna do wlaking away? has no money actually been paidover yet then?
this wa sin recent statement from DUFF AND Phelps
4,23 may be the clause of the CVA Proposal that you are referring to:_

4.23 In the event that either this CVA is not approved, or the other Conditions of the loan are not satisfied or waived by 23 July 2012, Sevco is contractually obliged to purchase the business and assets of the Company for �5,500,000 by 30 July 2012. All further terms of that sale have been agreed in advance and are confidential.

Just a wee question - If the Liquidators BDO rule that the name Rangers & the club crest cannot be used as it bears similarity to the liquidated company.
(I understand this is a probability)
Q. Would you still support the club if it was called Govan United or support another club ie Hearts or give up football.

Buying 1 for myself and for both for my step sons. Probably wouldnt have if 1st division was where wewere playing. Looking forward to teaching them everything bout the correct aspects of football

Listen pal you are not giving your money to your team it is dead and about to be buried. Your money is going to Green remember him he's the one we all hated and promised us a CVA as he had done a deal with HMRC.
Next thing we know he has taken us to semi-professional football in SFL3.

Can someone explain why I should be spending my hard earned cash watching a new team, we haven't even been told what we'll officially be called or what kind of strips we'll be wearing, it's not long till the season starts and I want clarity before deciding if I buy.

Fund the big hoose ? blue feet will be back on the street ,thats how itl be done doug t.s.o

Dont buy then ,cos you dont sound like a true blue to me ,ffs its players that have been at the club thatl be playing ,which colour of strip would you like ? my choice would be orange and purple ,with the lion as the badge and R.F.C. underneath ,well we have been getting called orange bs for years doug t.s.o

Doug I posted the original post. An how can you decide I'm not a true blue just because I haven't moved down to Glasgow so I can support my team. Are you out your mind? What a small minded fan, I was brought up here and I'm only 24 so if you think at that age I should of moved down to Glasgow and bought a season ticket then you display an extremely narrow mind set. I support the blues and don't need you to tell me otherwise. Idiot.
AllyRFC

13 Jul 2012 22:58:04
Heard that Rangers may take the SFA to court if further sanctions are placed upon the new co.
this battle could end up either delaying the start of the SFL division 3.

Won't delat SFL3. The SFL have got their act together unlike the SFA.

As Rangers have joined SFL as a new company I don't see why sanctions are needed. If they were being treated as the old Rangers e.g. by keeping their SPL place then sanctions should apply.

There will be a suspension for a year coming next

As a completely new club sevco should be starting life in Div 3 totally free from any shackels relating to the club formerly known as RFC imo however ...... in order for this to happen it follows suit that no previous history relating to an extinct club can be attached to sevco either ..... it's quite simple really ,, in order to retain RFC 'S history the sevco must also be held accountable for the financial misgivings of their deceased reletives ........ one way or another there's still a hefty price to be paid for the sins of the past .......!!!

Noooo your wrong if sevco want to be registered as oldco they need to agree to except the responsibility of oldco if they want to be registered as a newco with no history or connection to oldco then they dont so the choice is yours

Unlikely the SFA will impose any further sanctions, when the SFA wanted us in Div 1 and we've ended up in Div 3 ! Moreover, as we're a new co. it's unlikely the SFA would want to lose another embarrassing legal case by trying impose further penalties on a new co. for the as yet unproven sins of an old co.

The only way sevco can win that case in court is if it proves it is in no way connected to oldco in any shape or form which goes against every thing your fighting for ... when are you guys gonna stop hurting yourselfs

If there are any sanction in relation to the overall rangers problem & newco does not agree to them beingplaced now or in the future the SFA will not issue the required licence. All that newco has got is entry to SFL3 subject to a licence being issued. It was rumoured that Regan told Green that a licence would only be issued if it was SFL1.As it stands newco do not meet the requirements of 3 years audited accounts and it is still a possibility that there will be no football at Ibrox in 2012/2013.
The transfer embargo sent back by Lord Glennie has still to be heard & I understand the only result that can be achieved is Expulsion or Suspension for a period of time (1 season).

To the last poster, yer talking pish. Why would the SFA be trying so hard to plant Rangers in Div 1, if they're not going to issue us a licence. Away back to your own website ... you cretin.