Rangers Rumours Archive September 18 2012

18 Sep 2012 23:37:30
"i dont think there was much between the two teams",said super ally.exactly.

And that is why were are out. Pish wee diddy 3rd division team with a clueless manager.

This WILL get worse mark my words. if we keep getting put out of cups where does the money come from?

Wont be able to keep playing these over payed muppets for too long. Should have stuck to the young guns as from what i watched tonight THEY were the ones up for the challenge.

As you say, exactly. But there is a lot between the two teams if you want to put a £ value on the players. Simply ... not good enough.

That was total rubbish last night, apart from the fact that the referee was absolutely shocking (seen his name no wonder).
dean shiels was murder, sandaza just as bad and as for the 2 centre halfs, wouldnt get a game for an amateur team.
MCCOIST MUST GO NOW

We should be beating teams like Annan,Berwick,Peterhead and Queen of the South with the squad we have.
Poor start to the season and it can only get worse.
Alexander constantly kicks the ball upfield the central defence of Perry and Cribari BIG ??
Green needs to look at the management team- LACKING TACTICAL AWARNESS AND MOTIVATING THE PLAYERS

So wee sly Ally has lost it. Lets face it he never really had it. His record as manager is woeful. If he had any regard for Rangers he should walk NOW

Serious motivation probems, not sure a new manager would make any difference.

Ally will always be a hero of mine but I'm afraid he will never CUT it has a manager!! John F

These guys are full time, paid huge sums in comparison to the opposition teams faced and look as though they couldn't care less !! now who's job is that to sort ?

Ally has got to be given at least this season,we have a whole new squad it takes time for these guys to get to know each other,qos have been a full time team i dont know if they still are,there is going to be bad results on our comeback we cant win every game
theres hard times ahead but it will get better,we will be back,watp

Got to agree cb positions need drastic change,there must be two young guys we can get in under 18 who would do a job on a fulltime contract against part timers

Ally McCoist is a legend, as a manager he is garbage. His record last season was abysmal and his record this season is worse. Get rid!

To the poster who made insinuations regarding the referees creed or his loyalties due to his name........grow up! He never missed the spotkicks, he never made the substitutions, picked the team or formation or missed the sitters ( Dean Shiels) yes he made a few dubious decisions (against both sides) but name me a referee that has never done so. It's time we stopped blaming everyone else for our situation and look at what we have got steering us downwards, and lest we forget, the men who put us there....our ex directors!

Standard of our play is terrible especially with ally's tactics of knock it from Alexander up to one striker who has no chance. How hard is it to play football from the back on the deck FFS

Give the team a chance to settle no preseason had remember there will be plenty off ups and downs cant throw toys out pram every time doesnt go our way support your team we need it

The referee gave us a penalty that should've won us the game. We had 90 mins plus extra time to win the game, we had 30mins extra time to win the game, we had penalties to win the game. We have the second most expensive squad in Scotland. McCoist is incompetent and that won't change.

Well Sally there was quite a bit between the teams last night, a few divisions for starters. A young manager who seems to get the best out of his team...NOT YOU!! Players actually working for each other..not over paid mercenaries who are there for the money. I would agree with a few other repliers, time is up for Sally...being a manager of the Old Firm guarantees you a 50/50 chance of the title, staring from scratch, in the lower leagues is evidently beyond his meagre managerial talents...time to walk Sally...maybe Question of Sport could rehire you or a pundit is the way to go..even you could learn some legends, He will be disappointed with that, He should have hit the target, It was a game of two halves and my personal favourite, and the 'booze' rings out for another Rangers defeat.

It's sad because we all want Ally to succeed, but his record is poor and a lot of players he has brought in are very poor. There was a lot between the teams and QotS were worthy winners. It's hard to see a decent plan A never mind a plan B! There has to be a place for Ally at Rangers, but think we need a hardened, experienced manager to see us through the next couple of seasons.

Agreed not much difference in the teams - there bloody well should be!

What happened to the SIX internationalists influence

They had a manager who knew what he was doing

McCoist is not manager material a legend yes this is another Greig situation it's plain to see he can't set up a team to suit the game and he can't influence a game during through tactics or subs he must go before we are embarrassed any more

To the first post about the money from these cups - you get pennies in cups like these. look at the difference between champions league and europa. you get like 5mil for winning europa, you get like 50mil for winning the champions league, hell you get 17mil for getting past group stages! This is the ramsdens cup for gods sake, we've lost about £5,000. Yes we played ****e, noted, but all I and we should care about is the league. thats the only thing thatll take us back to top flight where there is some money to be made (mainly from european appearances).

We need time to gel, and we need to stop giving all these diddy teams undeserved respect when they try and slaughter our players. get stuck into them ffs! teach them how to tackle, wish goian was here to do it!
WATP Stevemac

To Stevemac. yes all those wonderful leagues and cups CL etc are great money earners but were not in these comps mate.

we are a poorly managed 3rd division team with players that are overpaid for SPL wages never mind 3rd Division. The cup games should be won as should all the league games on PAPER but on the pitch Rangers are rank rotten and if something is not done soon, either manager getting his balls felt or players getting theres felt we will keep getting put out cups and WONT get promoted.

Motherwell will slaughter this overpayed/uninterested squad of players. and people will stop giving there support to the club. No-one i there right mind will pay to watch this crap week in and out. Look at the other side of Glasgow they too are astonished at how there team is playing.

Stevemac

What your missing mate is cup games are bonuses that you cant factor in when your doing accounts.

A semi-final to a packed Ibrox is worth a small fortune to the club if the draw ties u at home. Then a packed final wherever it may be. So thats 2 paydays gone.

And you know what, never mind that. Its a disgrace Rangers haven't even made the semi's of this tournament with the second most expensive squad in scotland. An embarrassment!

18 Sep 2012 22:54:38
Heard a rumour at the game that McCoist will be sacked and the replacement manager will be Big Lee McCulloch. They see him as a manager in the making and will be given the chance to learn his trade in the lower divisions.

Durrant will be asked to stay, but it is believed he won't, and McDowall is also gone. Green believes that the players are
better than they are showing, and feels the current
team cant motivate them.

Don't know how much truth is in this but I am told will happen over weekend.

Stuart McCall the most likely for me to take the reins if Rangers can afford him. His stock may go up next week if Well take four or five off the Teds

Why wait till the weekend get rid of the 3 stooges tonight

It is bad enough having to play these teams but playing them with this type of footsie is an absolute joke. We lacked leadership, guts, fight not to mention any type of good football. We have to be playing better stuff but the more I see the more I know that Ali must go. The players ain't fighting for him and he cannot go on protecting these less than mediocre players. Knocked out by QOS. I am dreading facing Motherwell.

Can't see this happening, although a player manager like LMc might just be what's needed in SFL3. Agree that the players are capable of more.

I have said this before Ally's loyalty in Rangers time of need is not questioned?
It is his ability as a manager that I doubt he is in the main up against part time teams! That is players who get together probably once a week and hold down a full time job. Therefore his results with a well paid full time squad are woeful. Ally please step aside? {Ed039's Note - Great post)

Green cannot allow this to continue much longer, the fans will simply drift away.

He won't sack Ally, he will have to walk. As for McCulloch, do me a favour, not the time for an inexperienced manager that's what's in place now !

Have to agree with the comment about McCoists ability as a manager. Fully expected to read this morning he had been sacked. Surprised he wasnt. Playing legends very rarely make great managers

At last its not just me who calls our management team the three stoogies.the only guy i feel sorry for is coisty.yes i totally agree he is not a manager but i believe him to be a good coach.i think the job is too big and has came at the wrong time.as for the other two muppets they contribute nothing except stand for 5 minutes explaining to our subs on how to score a goal on an a4 sheet of paper.would i get rid of them?mccoist no but the other two yes.who could we get?don't know because who would come.as for lee mcculloch as player manager that is a no no right away.the players seem to lack direction or they are simply n.ot carrying out coisty's instructions. big jim

COIST done a good job steering us through the troubled times, but we need Billy Davies he will get them up for it and playing football, not pumping the ball to Sandaza who didn't win a ball in the air all night

When he was asst manager he was more animated and trying to motivate the players now the three of them stand about with their arms folded,sorry but time for them to go.

I said last season Ally was not a No 1. He is better on the coaching field as a go between players and management. Last season his lack of tactical awareness was shown up early on in europe this was followed by the team imploding and surrendering a 15 point lead and this was before all the off field stuff started.

Righn now he has shown he has no plan b in games we struggle in and i feel that he doesn't command respect as someone like Sir Walter did therefore he isn't getting the response when the chips are down .

Much as Rangers are in debted to him for his loyalty through our darkest hours this will be forgooten quickly as Rangers fans need to see a team with passion and desire to rise from the ashes

1. McCoist managed a team whilst having both his hands tied behind his back initially by the Craig Whyte regime, then further more when the club was placed into Administration. He kept his dignity and helped to lead the club through those dark days.
2. He is currently the Manager of a Club and Team who is and will for the next few years be one who is undertaking a major restructuring process.
3. Whilst he has brought in some good SPL standard players (Black, Shiels, Sandaza, Templeton) the team is still very much in transition and unrecognisable from the team of the last few years, and it will take time. Success does not happen over-night.

18 Sep 2012 08:22:06
RANGERS medics last night blamed Annan's plastic pitch for David Templeton's injury all i can say is mccoist should have made the desision not to play temp in that game on the plastic pitch thats what managers get paid to do is make desisions and he constaly keeps making bad ones

I thought it was the fault of some hammer thrower?

I agree mate. He had a worse record than Paul LeGuen last season at the same point LeGuen got sacked, and that was before the meltdown with Whyte.
He opens his mouth and says silly things.
He brings the game in Scotland into disrepute.
He endangers people's safety.
He isn't a good football coach at all.
He's a desperate guy.
He needs to step down. Fourth tier football is beyond him and we won't get out of this league under Ally's non leadership and non football.

Well chaps looking forward to the big game tonight is it the chip shop cup or the league cup

Keep saying Ally was the right man at a horrible time for the club but sorry to say he isn't the man to move the Gers forward on the pitch!! John F

Seriously? You blame ally for that? Unreal. So what if jig or Alexander or black done an ankle on that pitch would that be allys fault? On your reckoning who should have played? It's a freak accident like naismith last season or mols in Munich. Ridiculous post in my opinion.

I'm not allys biggest fan in a long way, but how can he win? If he doesn't play Templeton and we don't win ally gets slaughtered for not playing him, we are talking about an average winger not messi, get a grip injuries happen on any pitch at any time.

Away you go. The pitch is ideal for players who are skillful.

I'll send you a box of straws to clutch at.
Al(ly must stay)

Ally is and always will be a Rangers legend, but how long can we allow him to make terrible choices? Sure he says all the right things to us to keep us from seeing his short comings as manager. Come on fellow bears. we are in a veey bad way and we are making no headway in the lowest tiers of scottish football! Am i missing something here? Why are we allowing this? We are the most succesful club side the world has ever seen and yet we still as fans still get beny over by the Spl, Sfa and those gangsters at fifa. So come on fellow bears raise your voice and and NO more. back to thr original point fr post....Ally should now step aside as he can fo no more! Hr has showm has unwavering loyalty to the cause but i ask out of real concern fir our our future.........is this enough?

How can you possibly blame mccoist,your not a gers fan your one of a growing number of septic fans obsessed with rangers

Might be happy with the plastic pitches come January in the 3rd Division.

Good luck to the boy Templeton in his recovery though.

Theres a few plastic pitches in that league so they better get used to it.

You all need to give ally a break, the team needs time to gel and get used to playing at this level. i do agree we should be outplaying them convincenly but time is needed

Yeh I agree give Ally a break After all are they queuing up to take his place I doubt it very much

Whats point of buying him if u dont want him yo play on certain pitches

And this will be why Murray Park has an indoor synthetic surface ??, the players can play on any surface - if they are good enough, unfair to blame the park and McCoist.

Are you having a laugh op ? we bought him to play if he gets injured then sh*t happens we move on its a chance for someone else to step up ..kev

Does that not then devalue the other players im not playing you incase you get injured but u can step in and play ? thats disrespectful to the players the fans other club and most importantly OUR CLUB
BALLYBOY

Better players tham him has played on a plastic pitch

There are 4 teams in the league play on plastic pitches,so are you going to leave the skillful players out of 8 games a season.

Ally can't say anything right just now. (Just read his "not much between the two teams" comment). Clearly that plastic pitch statement is a poor excuse.

How much gelling do highly paid players need to beat part-time players ?

Why not play temp, is he allergic to plastic pitches ? None sense retort, mccoist can't take blame for that.

Plastic pitches reason is nonsense - i think the majority of us who play amateur, or even 5 or 7 a sides nowadys play on plastic pitches ! i play 5s on a Tue, 7s on a Fri and 11s on a Sun but have never been injured playing on the surface, can't remember any of my mates suffering from this either. Besides - russsians use this every week, as do Annan FFS and their players don't get injured! again, more excuses from Rangers - sooner we get on and settle into this league the better.