Rangers Rumours Archive March 01 2012

 

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01 Mar 2012 22:58:40
Craig Whyte has 'enormous sympathy' for those being made redundant due to the condition of the club's finance. He is also alleged to have said that the club will rise again stronger.

Am I right in saying that this is the man who has gotten us into this mess by not paying tax and stealing funds from our club?

Ally Mitchell

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Hope his wife takes him for every penny he's got.

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Craig whyte is the best hope that rangers have , lets hope he comes god on his word

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From a neutral (or timmy point of view as seems to be the norm on this site, burn the witch) to me craig whyte although not a conventional way of making your club stronger, has taken stepps to liquidate and wipe the slate clean ,a caller to the clyde phone in pointed out that there were a lot of people at ibrox whom knew craig whyte and his track record, sdm and the board knew his role would be like mr wolf in the movie pulp fiction, clear up the mess they left , and whyte is mr wolf, he has to be careful in what he says publicly not to incriminate himself in corporate mis management, there is no knight in shining armour ready to save rangers,whyte has protected the assets and set the club up for liquidation,the club will be stronger re-formed with no debt, the high powers of scottish football will bend over backwards to accomodate the new club into the spl ,so the 140 year history will be gone ! a few shares in arsenal gone, but the big hoose will stay open thats the bottom line !!!

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Mr whytes statement of it wasn't me but a big boy did it and ran away wont hold much credence if he ever reappears at Ibrox

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Your wrong, Whyte was the only man willing to take a punt on a farcical situation. These events were always going to happen. An article in tomorrows daily mail tells how all directors have known exactly what's been going on since the mid-90's, so take ur pick from anyone from then till Whyte took over to point ur finger at .

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Whyte is in charge. It's his game, he's doing what Murray brought him in to do. Let him get on with it. He was at Duff n Phelps today to understand why the player and worker lay offs didn't go ahead as planned. Also to find out if ticketus would blink on what they are owed. Ticketus statement was nice but they didn't concede a penny on they're dues.

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Ally McCoist: The penny has dropped.
He now knows its Liquidation in weeks.
Knowing he won't be there, he offers to work for nothing....playing the end game.

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The Sun is reporting Rangers players in tears yesterday. Last week 175 people were laid off at a Glasgow plant hire firm. It happens every day. It's obvious now that 11 top earners need to walk to let the low earners only take a 50% hit. Makes sense.

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"Craig Whyte was the only one willing to take a punt" Jesus, waken up man. Craig Whyte saw a business opportunity to run the Rangers financial mess into the ground and walk away with millions in his pocket, that's the only reason he is there

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OP, no your wrong...CW DIDNT get us in this mess, SDM and the previous board got us in this mess. Whether you like it or not CW is the one who is currently saving Rangers. If admin didnt come, Rangers would have gone straight into liquidation...wake up!

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"The Sun is reporting Rangers players in tears yesterday. Last week 175 people were laid off at a Glasgow plant hire firm. It happens every day. It's obvious now that 11 top earners need to walk to let the low earners only take a 50% hit. Makes sense"

No that doesnt make sense at all. As administrators, they arent going to chack all the top earners away, if anything they will keep McGregor, Davis and Naismith because they have the highest sell on value. They will just slash their wages.

Who in their right mind would sell off their greatest assets when they could simply cut their wages and keep them?

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Who are these jokers that think liquidation is imminent???
The administrators would announce this.....but havent, which can only end in one conclusion.....timmy is trying to spread more lies.
I know this is a rumours page, but it isnt a 'spread bullsh*t' page!!!!

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If their wages are cut without their consent they can leave for nothing due to breach of contract rules, meaning they can walk into another team and as there is no tranfer fee involved they will recieve better wages.

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If there was a chance the administrators could have saved the club by cutting costs dont you think they would have slashed playing staff and overheads immediately?

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Im a Rangers fan but I have to be honest and admit Celtic are the best role model for how a club should be run. They have a tremendous squad as well. Scott Brown is one of the best midfielders in the World right now. We wasted money on K Thomson who was/is/always will be a Division 2 player. And there was the missed
opportunity to hire Roy Aitken as manager.
Id get rid of McCoist and bring in Billy Stark. Onlly my opinion though.

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Mr Whyte having enormous sympathy? During this whole episode Mr Whyte has been proven as telling porky pies. He also does a runner to Monaco when these lies come out and offers no detail as to where the money is nor any explanation as to why he did not pay VAT or taxes that were due and I am talking about business since he took over not the Big Tax case. All the evidence indicates that My Whyte has put in a solitary pound and is sitting in his luxury pad waiting for a pay day on his shareholding while ordinary working folk at Ibrox get the chop. Words are cheap what we need Mr Whyte to do is put his money where his mouth is (A very annoyed neutral)

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You have to judge Whyte on his actions and not his words. And his actions have in NO WAY been in the club's best interests. Perhaps administration was inevitable but he has done nothing but accelerate it by siphoning off funds (where some of that money has gone to is yet to be revealed).

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I'm not a whyte fan, but Rangers were in trouble long before whyte appeared on the scene

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01 Mar 2012 23:10:03
why are you sayin we should sack the people who refuse to take a 75% wage cut if u got told that u would probably refuse too remember the people on low wages 1-5k a week have their own bills and family to feed
AndyBear98

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AndyBear98, Ł5k a week is over a quarter of a million pounds a year, I wish I was on that low a wage.

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Sorry if I'm being ignorant here but the average of 1000k and 5000k a week is 3000k a week. 75% reduction of that still ends up of an average of about Ł3000 per month! Incidently more than the average wage and hard working Joe Blogg. If ur on a bigger salary eg of 20k a week minus the 75% loss then ur still looking at an annual income of about 11k a week. That's approx an eighth of a million pounds a year! For doing a hobby u love and are slightly above average at doing. Not a bad bag eh? So, sorry no sympathy for players being asked to take a wage cut here. Welcome to the real world! Papa said it right the other day.... People been paid well, or too much for years esp under the current circumstances!
Jay

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I mean low on the football side of wages
AndyBear98

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75% of Ł20,000 a week is Ł11,000?

Get back to school, it's Ł5,000 per week they are left with. Remember these guys probably have mortgages 4k plus per month

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Jay I would love to see you take a 75% pay cut in the job you are in currently. Carry on working even then not guaranteed to receive any money. Knowing that if you get sick or injured you will no longer be able to provide. I am pretty sure you are one of the sort of people who make lots of noise about things. You probably are telling everyone how you are pledging money to save Rangers but in reality? These guys are not playing for a hobby it is there livelyhood, regardless and they will have committments. They earn what they earn and they live life according to what they can afford to. 75% cmon really... What if nobody buys the club and things dont improve and the worst happens. They could end up in a worse situation 3, 4 or 5 months from now. On the football scrapheap, then what would some of them do?

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Yes do remember they are only on 1 to 5k
per week, get real, most people in Rangers employ live on not 52k to 250k per year but,
10k to 20k ...

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I had to chuckle at the low wage of 1-5k per week comment.

I know what you mean pal but just saying.

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Didnt all the JCB workers freeze there wages or something when there company went into money problems? You cant even compare footballers wages to anyone else.
Don

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Yeh sorry the 11k was an error obviously, however still quarter of a million pounds a year which in today's climate is a pretty good wage in my book. And no mr no-name I don't make a lot of noise and tell people I'm pledging money to save rangers. I don't really think that's even relevant to this discussion. Think you're missing the point
here. But think you did hit the nail on the head by saying they live life according to what they can afford, even if it is low in football salary terms.

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1k to 5k a week is NOT a low wage in the real world.

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You have to understand that players buy houses cars etc based on their salary so it hits them hard when they have to take a cut {Ed001's Note - and they can sell those things. Hit hard my backside, they are just greedy and not willing to give up their flash lifestyles and cars while the rest of us scrape by.}

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Don't want to see anyone not just football players having to take a 75% paycut but maybe this will give a lot of these guys a reality check. Would you be happy with a grand a week? I know i would be..........Billy

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Or maybe they could look at it as a chance to say 5 years down the line, yes i took a massive paycut and because of me and my colleagues doing this, it ultimately helped rescue the club i love and WORK for and people will always remember that. Not saying that they will but they could, i dont really know if there is a right or wrong here its really just your own personal opinion. working class bear.

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01 Mar 2012 22:32:32
FIRST Minister Alex Salmond was involved in talks with the Treasury about putting Rangers into administration ahead of the club doing it itself.


The revelation emerged in a debate in the House of Commons on the beleaguered Old Firm club where Labour MP Thomas Docherty accused Rangers’ disgraced majority shareholder Craig Whyte of being “a liar”.

Docherty, the MP for Dunfermline and West Fife and a Pars supporter, also said that the decision by the administrators to withhold ticket money due to Dunfermline Athletic and Dundee United was “nothing short of theft”.

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Has he forgot to say utd charged us twice for the same game two years ago. selective memory?

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01 Mar 2012 22:21:58
Whyte sympathy as Rangers cuts loom


The Press Association‎ - 3 hours ago
Rangers owner Craig Whyte claims he has "enormous sympathy" for those who will lose their jobs as part of cost-cutting measures at the club.

Why would this guy not dig deep into
his money , thats what it means
to own a club....

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Simple answer, whyte doesn't have much money. well not until he liquidates our club.

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01 Mar 2012 21:40:47
Fire sale at club shop. Adults tops for £10 and kids for £5.

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Rumour has it the tic r going to win the treble

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Theyve been like that for a while. was like it at killie game. i bought the white one. 10 quid, cant complain. stock up though, we need as much cash as we can get.
steve WATP

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They were doing that at the Killie game. Jjust be careful, I don't think the money is going to Rangers but to JJB. I asked when we b ought stuff and they said 'we pay money to Rangers every year'.

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"we pay money to rangers every year" jeezo sherlock. so does anyone who sells the rangers brand. move along timmy

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Rangers will see next to nothing from those prices for shirts.

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Jjb are advertising two forŁ19.99 pick and mix sizes.

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01 Mar 2012 21:28:52
100% reliable source that mcgregor, davis, wallace, aluko, broadfoot, naismith, goian,the 7 ringleader is higher earners as can negoiate higher deals for themselves,mr.loyal mccoist has also intamated that he would be unwilling at a 75% deduction,admin trying to negoiate or durrant will be caretaker sat,dave king has had heart to heart with ally hence his comments clyde fm,thats reason behind delays,expect truth this weekend,

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P1sh mate. Ally doesn't do walking away. He won't go of his own accord - in our hour of greatest need.

If he goes - its Game over !!

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Where did you hear that

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My source is 100% reliable to... they tell me that Craig Whyte is not the man to get us out of this mess or to take the club forward.
Name the source to allow others to make a fair comment on your post.

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Wow that's the first time I have ever hear CW not the man to take the club forward...did you go back in time to get that but of news ? Total crap...

Bluebear

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I would think that Mccoist would work for Ł0
To Keep Rangers going. Ally has a vast wealth and could walk away without a care in the world but he is Rangers to the core
so your comments about questioning his
commitment and reducing his wage I think is well wide of the mark.
But I would say you comments and thoughts
are from a Gers fan concerned about our club and I am not going to mock you
Do any of you guys see our beloved team
Getting out of this mess? Any one concerned about the conduct of the administrators ? Anyone think we could do with a Walter Smith at Ibrox asking WTF is going on ( I don't mean on the football side ) Sir Walter was the guy who told us Lloyds were running the show when no one else would say a word.
I for one would stand behind Walter and Ally
KM & ID these guys are rangers men
All these others Admin, Ellis CW phill betts
Etc etc do not have rangers interests at heart. They are there for the Cash
And I wish they would all F-O and
Let Rangers people who love and care for this club get involved to save the club
Bro J

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Your source is made up clap-trap.

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Total mince

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If he has a vast wealth why doesnt he put some into the club

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Total bull! Ally is working for 0 wages for the rest of the season in the hope others won't loose there jobs!

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01 Mar 2012 20:48:50
Craig Whyte has claimed that millions netted from sales of Rangers season tickets and player sales are “still with the club” will correct me if am wrong but admin sayed there is rangers season ticket money in whytes lawyers so mister lier is lying again that money aint in rangers acounts when we need it the man is a joke he dont have a clue

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Could not agree more mate !

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He said its accounted for. that means they know where it is and thats all

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In that case, why is he holding back crucial money at this critical point ? If he doesn't release the money soon then he's clearly more than just a liar.

It's up to you now Mr Whyte !

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Every penny is in the club every penny has been accounted for. All that will be confirmed in due course.
well admin say there is money that is rangers and its not in our acount so he is lying again

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Why doesn't he return to Glasgow & show the administrators where all this missing money is ? where is CW now ? anyone know?

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He is in london today meeting admin company

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He is holding the money in another account so he can liquidate the company, start up a new Rangers with a clean slate and either pump the money back in...or who wouldn't want to buy a Rangers club with no debt?

We would still have Ibrox, Murray Park etc.

As for the Arsenal shares, he sold them off as if the club goes into liquidation, they would be lost completely. Nothing to stop us buying them back in future.

I think I know what he's up to. Not the ideal solution but probably the only way.

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A think the person at the bottom of the page must be craig whyte way the load of rubbish he has just wrote waken up

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All signs point to liquidation. Don't think it's me who needs to do the waking up.

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01 Mar 2012 20:24:26
anybody know whats happened with the dummy run of the saverangers idea. gone a bit quiet!

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Aye it was the worst idea ever as u can stop other fans going on it

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13,000 signed up. People have the perception that the money could go to the wrong hands which is wrong. The site is designed to gauge the level of support for whatever may lie ahead. When the moment comes it will mean we are ready to move with new owner/fan ownership model. You can also pledge any amount you like, 20 quid to 2g it all counts.

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We need a leader at the forefront. someone the rangers fans can trust knowing their money is going in safe hands.

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I am convinced that by going down the correct channels that us rangers fans can unite and raise 20m+ provided the money is guaranteed to go into the club. We need a fergus mccann type leader who can get the ball rolling. saverangers.com clearly hasn't caught on. 13,000 really isn't much considering some of them were tims on the wind up.

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People are not going to throw hard earned cash into a black hole times are difficult enough for people in scotland

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Celtic fans were hijacking it saying that they would donate Ł20,000 and stuff like that! Scummy b**tards!

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There needs to be a rangers fund set up by the major supporters club, fans make donations to this fund so the moneys there in an account when the time comes to put money up its there ready and no faffing around late on, donations can be logged and if it happens the money isnt used it can be returned to the pledger in time-
stg

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01 Mar 2012 19:11:09
Rangers' 'best outcome' is to find new owners says Ticketus

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/west-central/299478-new-owner-best-outome-for-rangers-says-ticketus/.

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Aye cos they want there money back

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Well duh

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Maybe they will be the new owners.....Ticketus Stadium anyone ?

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Unless some billionaire comes in then i'm afraid we will be liquidated.

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To the brainless moron who commented above.......get lost and dont go to ibrox again...we dont want fans like you

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Ticketus running scared we are going into liquidation.
Will they get hee haw if we do?

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Should be rename Inland revenue arena :p

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Signs at the moment arw not looking good worse days to follow sad times for rfc

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01 Mar 2012 19:03:31
Ticketus have made a statement that they have met fans groups and the admin team

http://www.ticketus.co.uk/

Dennybear

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01 Mar 2012 18:56:16
Have been told by an accountant friend who is a senior in a big Glasgow company that rangers will go into liquidation tomrw unless money was retrieved from whytes lawyers account.doesn't usually get involved in "stories" but was having lunch with someone close to rangers today.hope its all nonsense but like I said he doesn't usually get involved.

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Why would the administrators say that there were several parties interested in buying/saving the club if they then put it into liquidation without coming out in the press with a plea for someone to step forward?

More scaremongering!!

The Pilot!

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No u havent u got a text past round like every1 else i got that text 2 but i leave a name

TB

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Don't tell lies. Why would Rangers go into liquidation when there IS interested parties? The bottom line, it's gonna get worse before it gets better, but better it will. Once the tax case has been heard then things will start to go forward one way or another

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How stupid can you be! no one is going to buy a club in administration with debts of up to and over 100 million ! the vultures are circling to pick up the scraps AFTER liquidation. and by monday at latest,that is happening.

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There is every chance of this happening tomorrow.....explains McCoists face and actions today.....

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The tax case has been heard and if lost there is absolutely no chance of RFC (In administration) going forward apart from liquidation unless a genuine multimillionaire comes over the horizon, which is very doubtful as Murray was trying to sell the club for 3 years. Wake up and look at the big picture and accept that it looks like a newco.

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I,m the original poster and have kept a positive Outlook throughout.hope we do find a buyer but tmmy friend is also a season ticket holder and my mate of 32 years.like I said he has never got involved even when I've asked him tax questions so no reason to scaremonger Or try to rock the boat.really hope the story is nonsense but passing on what I've heard from what I,d consider a reliable source.here's hoping nothing comes of it.

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Everything going on is just delaying what inevitably will end in the L word.

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Interested parties- ur having a laugh. the club was on the market for three years and the only person to step forward was that conning git mr whyte.paul murray doesn't have the backing he needs and we will be no mire,

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I have to say when you look at other clubs taht went into admin , Motherwell Dundee, within a couple of days players were made redundant but your club has been business as usual (Trying to sign Cousin at 30k pm). My fear if a fan would be that Whyte wants liquidation, he holds the assets i.e.Ibrox etc and then sells / rents them back to the new owner and he rides off into the sunset with a tidy sum in the back pocket.

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So called interested parties will only step forward if the tax case goes in our favour - simples. it is completely possible we could liquidated before tax case decision. nothing is impossible. equally it is possible we will be out of admin with a new owner by the end of the month. timmy needs to remember we dont do walking away... and !

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My dogs baws im fed up with all this. at the end of the day we couldnt even afford 2 indians and hibs steal a target from under our nose!. il lick ma dugs arse if rangers win this tax case thats official.

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Goodness me !! you must like your dog a lot, all this talk of doggy bits and what you want to them, are a little unnerving.

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Think people need to factor in.
Before Craig Whyte`s takeover, the stadium was said to be in need of repairs/remedial work of about Ł12,000000, where is that going to come from now?
Is Ibrox being neglected for a reason??

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You won't walk away - Kilmarnock game stadium half empty 10 min before end. "We are the people" sectarian singing throughout observed and reported to the SFA and the onto Inverness, will you guys ever learn, obviously not. When you are a newco will you be walking back?

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The debt could well run over 130 million the way things are going

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The administration company have to be paid daily too bleak

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"il lick ma dugs arse if rangers win this tax case thats official."

You are a tim arent you???

Yeah...yer deffo a tim!!

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01 Mar 2012 18:28:55
Dont know if any other bear got text message saying as of tomorrow no more rangers
I dont know if its true but with admin puting job losses of till tomorrow n if the reports r true about certain players refusing to take paycuts then i want the named and shamed


WATP


TB

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Obviously everyone else does not buy into the idea that WATP

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You want them named and shamed?
Why the heck should they take massive pay cuts? these guys only do a job for Rangers, They singed a contract that gave them a set wage, If you went in to work tomorrow and your boss Said, " Here Billy instead of your usual Ł400 a week, you will only be getting Ł100 from now on"

I take it you would just shrug your shoulders and say"No problem boss I am loyal to the firm" Aye so you would, Grow up and Remember most Rangers players are not Rangers Supporters They only work there.
TK {Ed001's Note - actually, I used to work for a printing company that had to ask the staff to do just that in order to stay in business. No one liked having to take the hit, but it was better than seeing the company fold and no one having a job at all. We took a 25% cut, not a deferment, but a cut. The players were only asked to defer their wages.}

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Why obviously no name guy ???
i never said i believe it did aye ??

i just put up what i got a text about

TB

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Incorrect. The cuts have been held back because some of the players are still coming back from international games. This would signal to me that certainly Bedoya or another of the American players will be moving elsewhere, be it letting them walk or selling them to a country who's transfer window is still open.

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These guys have bills to pay

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Name and shame what kind of rangers supporter are you

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These players have contracts and as we know in todays world, their loyalty is to their pay packet. They did not come to Rangers because of their love for the club, it was for the best deal they could get.

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01 Mar 2012 18:18:04
Rangers players may have to accept up to a 75% wage cut if they are to stave off the threat of immediate job cuts.

The squad have been offered three options by administrators over the severity of the restructuring at the club.

Manager Ally McCoist joined his players in a lengthy meeting at Murray Park on Thursday, with representatives from PFA Scotland and administrators Duff and Phelps also present.

It is understood the first option tabled would see every player keep their job but accepting an instant pay cut of up to 75%.

Option two would see some players leave the club, with a 50% wage cut applied immediately to those who are kept on.

The most swingeing action would see 11 players lose their jobs immediately, with those remaining taking a less severe wage cut.

The players will mull over their decision overnight, before reaching an agreement on Friday. If the squad can not reach a consensus, the administrator will make the final decision.

It is also understood the management team of McCoist, Ian Durrant and Kenny McDowall are all prepared to take major pay cuts to help preserve jobs.

PFA Scotland president Tony Higgins, chief executive Fraser Wishart and their lawyer were all present at Murray Park for talks, with representatives Jack Ross and Stuart Lovell also in attendance throughout the day.

Administrators Duff and Phelps were expected to announce redundancies on Thursday, before announcing their final decision had been delayed with 'discussions' ongoing regarding potential cost saving measures”.

The majority of McCoist's first team squad trained ahead of their weekend game with Hearts prior to their meeting, minus Carlos Bocanegra, Maurice Edu and Dorin Goian, who did return from international duty in time.

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What a Shambles throw in the towel now, Administrators taking Ł11,000 A day out of accounts on a Daily basis. Believe me they are as crooked as Whyte, They are milking every last penny they can before they close the doors, and as for Ticketus Their only interest is getting their money back. They never met with administrators on a mercy mission, They are petrified that they have threw their investors money into the big black money hole. The know heads are going to roll and jobs lost for those who approved the loan in the first place. As Mr Whyte made clear on TV Tonight Rangers where in serious Financial Trouble long before he got involved, And his snigger told us all, he was just a looter in too steal what was Left. LETS JUST GET IT OVER WITH, And get on with rebuilding the New Rangers.

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There is a rumour that durrant and mcdowall will eventually leave the club.

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Admin guys are taking a long time strange one?

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Why do people still believe the Daily Lying Record? Edu & Bocanegra actually never got back to Glasgow til late last night (channel 5 news were there at the time) so no meeting would of been held yesterday with ANY players unless ALL of them were there.
Admin must exert DUE DILIGENCE whilst performing their duties & must abide by the LAW in relation to Administration & Liquidation, so are NOt just in it for themselves. Its taking a long time because a big mess takes a while to sort out. Plus there's the missing monies to uncover & gain access to & the international games this week didnt help with the timing.

No-one heard of patience being a virtue? Let them do their job. If anything theyve been the most honest guys out of all this.

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01 Mar 2012 18:13:15
Think it's a bit of a shame that this is a rumour site, yet every rumour posted gets slated and the poster called 'timmy'.

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Thimmy knows his stuff...

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Maybe if people actually posted TRUTHFUL rumours instead of either making stuff up themselves, or stuff that the Daily Record etc have made up then that wouldn't happen?!

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01 Mar 2012 17:11:38
Rumour has it Sochaux are back in for Edu. Were willing to pay 1 million in jan but fee in the region of 250k-300k should see him move on.

Source-My mate Tam (knows about as much as the rest of us)

J1985

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Is your mates surname "pon"? there will be no cut price sales. player will take a wage cut knowing full well there will be a take over and their loyalty will be rewarded.

WATP.

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This is rubbish for two reasons
1 the window closed on 31st January
2 Why pay a fee when the player would be available for free if/when the club is liquidate

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The transfer window is closed

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Tam pon?? awww i get it.....belter mate.lol lol lol ha ha.... my pal n u would be a perfect fit..if hes a tam pon that makes u a f***y then.
this was a text i recieved from a good pal, posted it n look at the replys. i knew there would be a line of folk who claim to know better.
j1985

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Hes ur mate and as u pointed out, that makes u a fud. incidentally, i appreciate this is a rumour site, but stop writing p1sh. just cause ur cotton bud pal tells u ur antie has bawz, it aint something we want to hear about. WATP

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So let me get this straight... i hear a rumour regarding rangers from a good pal, whos a gers man also. he has obviously heard this from somewhere else. so i post to share with fellow bears n it becomes p1sh??!! dont think u understand the concept of a rumour watp. i said my source was my mate not an insider, a security guard at murray park, ally mccoists cousins best pals f####g squash partner....if i want to share a rumour i'll do so. aff your high horse pal n if you dont agree fine but like i said you are simply a f###y n your opinion means zero to me.
j1985

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01 Mar 2012 16:56:22
keith jackson has said rangers
are close to liqudation
11 players facing the sack
"they simply cannot afford to pay
bills for march"
GmcRFC

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I posted same thing earlier mate ;( Hope he,s wrong tho BIGTIME

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And he knows this because the Administrators won't do anything without referral to him. Was he not also the person reporting in the Ragord that redundancies would be today.

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My 11 year nephew who plays at Murray park for the under 12s has been contacted and informed not to turn up this weekend or until further notice now i might be reading into this too much as they are only kids and with the administrators looking at cutting cost across the board it makes financial sense to cut this cost but i have this horrible niggling feeling the end is nigh and the silence is deafening with all the stalling going on

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Face it lads. this is the end

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Kieth Jackson did say that but he also said Whyte was a Billionaire and his wealth was off the radar. a**ehole if ever there was one!!

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It has to be said. it aint looking good.
But lets stand together. and always remain the best supporters in the world
W.A.T.P
GMCRFC

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Liquidation is not the end of the world.

Fiorentina did it and their history remains in tact.

If Whyte liquidates the company and starts a new Rangers, we would start debt-free. He has stored money in different accounts so the administrators can’t get their mits on it. This (hopefully) will be pumped into the new club (which will still have Ibrox, Murray Park and all the rest, by the way).
We would also be back in the SPL right away (or else no money in Scottish football from S*y). It’s a scary thought being liquidated but I think it’s probably the only way. And who wouldn’t want to buy us then? No debt and a great stadium with great supporters. We will get out of this mess, just not the way most folk are hoping, unfortunately.

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01 Mar 2012 16:35:06
Just done a delivery to Murray Park at 16.30.
All the playing staff just left not stopping to sign anything or talk to fans as normal. Plus Lee Mcculloch looked pretty p@@sed off and speeded out the entrance gate to get away from fans and press.

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Who were the pizzas for?

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Wasnt pizza kebab !

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Delivering s**te I take it? I'll take a portion too

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What time was your post done,16.35,,you were outside ibrox @ 16.30,fuc,,ing brilliant,away to your bed timmy.......trueblue.....

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He could have posted by phone. The poster who referred to the OP as Timmy is an idiot - I don't actually know if he is but as he's making ignorant assumptions, so can I.

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Have to say that true blue is a complete plonker - if someone came on here and said Rangers second strip has red in it he would say something to contradict it - does not even read posts properly and if it what he sees is something he does not like then the poster has to be a "tim" and wrong. Pretty glad that you will not have a club to follow soon.

Diamond Geezer

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Don't believe this....McCulloch and speed in the same sentence lol

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My hamster runs faster

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Even if the original poster did post from his phone, it'd take a lot longer than 5 mins for the post to appear as it has to be checked 1st & ive never seen a post appear within 5 mins of making it. Pretty poor attempt considering not all the players were back in the country by that time, so no meeting would of been held with all players present!

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01 Mar 2012 16:34:49
8 out the door tomorow the rest 2 takr 75 percent pay cut durrant is the first

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At the point of being rude, you know nothing and are guessing. If your not Timmy your worse making up stories!

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He's right. Mccoist on no pay till end of season 8 first team to go remaining players 75% cut in wages

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Ally mcoist respect

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01 Mar 2012 15:26:09
Andy Wynne to be at the game on Saturday.

The Cairo's

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Hey guys im probably being naive her but who is Andy Wynne

ive put his name into google and get lots of mixed results,

what company does he own or what his he involved in?

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Click on who is andy wynne.there are afew but the one that sticks out,is the accountant in lagos.check it out.

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Yeah I second that. Who Is he? What's his background and who is he associated with? Also did Paul Murray not say he'd have his backers named or sorted by end of this week? It's Thursday pm. Hope he ain't messing about. See Pompey about to fold. It is a real possibility we will be next. Don't be fooled by to big a club . It's all too quiet for my liking. Here's hoping.

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More like Andy Wynne Dupp. He's not our savior..

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All search results for andy wynne on the company check, point towards a guy called david andy wynne... all of his companies are disolved!
is he a liquidator or future investor? any info fellow bears

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I've heard a wee rumour that the delay is because it's more serious than redundancies tomorrow. My mate's cousin works PT for G4S at Ibrox. He got a call this morning saying he's not required on Saturday, can he do Killie instead. Seems a major supplier has refused to extend credit (why would you?), mibbe G4S themselves, and as a result Hearts game can't go ahead.

So, the result is liquidation tomorrow.

Thoughts are that delay is to allow SPl to prepare a statement overnight and to prepare a plan for the rest of the season. Anybody else hear anything similar? Or is it just another conspiracy theory?

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Who is Andy Wynne?

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To the guy whos mate's dog works pt for G4S; liquidation? shut up u plonker!

aint gonna happen. duff & phelps already said so. its cos edu & a few other players are still away as they couldnt get back today & mccoist is still negotiating over minimising cutbacks in the meantime til they get back!

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Whoever is selected aslong as they get a thorough fit and proper test!

The Cairo Gang Early Wake Up Call

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Andy Wynne i found stays in glasgow multi millionaire maybe a buyer??

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Did someone not post earlier this week that he was the owner of the Razor Media Group.

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Billy Smith is going to the game on Saturday as well....

Diamond Geezer

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01 Mar 2012 14:25:26
Announcement from Adminstrators Duff & Phelps;

Duff and Phelps, the administrators of Rangers Football Club, advise all media there will be no announcement today in relation to staffing levels in any department of the Club.

Discussions are on-going regarding potential cost saving measures and announcements will be made at the earliest opportunity, most likely tomorrow.

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01 Mar 2012 14:16:01
Looks as though they are offering to finance the next sale - 20 year mortgage?

"Following a meeting yesterday with Rangers Football Club's (the "Club" or "Rangers") administrators Duff & Phelps, Ticketus would like to state its desire for a rapid and successful conclusion to the Club's administration process and confirm its willingness to enter into discussions with any serious potential bidders for the Club.

We met with the administrators yesterday to make it clear that we intend to be part of a solution for the Club, and to ensure a fast and fair resolution is achieved for all parties. We outlined that this includes working with potential purchasers to help provide various financing solutions to the Club that would be attractive to new owners."

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Where you getting this tripe from? Nothing on parent company Octopus' website & nothing from ticketus themselves. Source?

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Where did you find this ? Sounds promising

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Source please

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Daily record on twitter

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To the first post "tripe"
I read the post the same as you and then found the full story within a couple of minutes on the web.
Don't be so quick to dismiss every post, look first then comment. I've put the link on for the full story.

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Read the ful statement, they want their money and will go to whatever lengths are necessary to get it

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If source is Daily Record on twitter then its definately TRIPE x infinity. Thought people would of realised by now, especially after their "Exclusive" this morning, that they're not to be believed! Geez! Its people like you that they love to sell their rubbish to. More chance of Ripley's Believe It Or Not being correct.

Ive read the FULL article & the part that makes it completely unbelievable is the bit where they mention their agreement between themselves & the club! Wot agreement? It was between CW & ticketus BEFORE he even bought the club & the funds from RFC assets were used to conclude the deal. Which is illegal.

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From Ticketus website

1 March 2012 - Statement regarding Rangers Football Club

Following a meeting yesterday with Rangers Football Club's (the "Club" or "Rangers") administrators Duff & Phelps, Ticketus would like to state its desire for a rapid and successful conclusion to the Club's administration process and confirm its willingness to enter into discussions with any serious potential bidders for the Club.

We met with the administrators yesterday to make it clear that we intend to be part of a solution for the Club, and to ensure a fast and fair resolution is achieved for all parties. We outlined that this includes working with potential purchasers to help provide various financing solutions to the Club that would be attractive to new owners.

Ticketus believes that the best outcome for Rangers, its fans, Ticketus and our investors is for the administration process to be concluded as soon as possible, with a purchaser found who is able to bring stability to the Club.

Ticketus has an obligation to its investors to pursue all avenues to ensure that the ticket purchase agreement it entered into with the Club is honoured, and we are committed to going to the lengths necessary to ensure that the future of the Club is preserved and its agreement with Ticketus fulfilled. We believe that our investors' interests are aligned to those looking to safeguard the Club's future.

We have already been in contact with a number of other key stakeholders, including potential bidders and fans' representatives, and believe working collaboratively with all parties to create a solution for the Club that puts it on a secure financial footing must be everyone's priority.

Ticketus looks forward to continuing to work with the administrators and serious potential bidders to secure a positive outcome for the Club.

For all media enquiries, please contact:

Luther Pendragon
Oli Winton / Leigh Marshall / Simon Whale
ticketus@luther.co.uk / +44 (0)207 618 9104

Notes to Editors

Ticketus first entered a ticket purchase agreement with Rangers Football Club in 2009 when the Club was owned by Sir David Murray. The agreement was for Ticketus to purchase some of the Club’s future season tickets in advance at a discounted price, which the Club would then resell at the intended sale price.
Ticketus’ agreement is with Rangers Football Club plc as the entity which originally owned the tickets.

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Ticketus@luther.co.uk??? luther.co.uk is the website for LutherPendragon. Theyre a public relations website. Wot have they to do with a ticket purchaser for football?

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Ticketus must be praying that Rangers are not liquidated otherwise they are left holding worthless stock (3 years worth of season tickets) This statement could indicate they are willing to take less of a profit on the tickets if this is attractive to a new investor. What we do not know at present is how many tickets were actually sold and how much Craig Whyte discounted the tickets.

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Have to say tickets look like they are panicking, agreement not with Rangers FC. Suggest they head to monaco

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Get heads out of sand before dissing posts - can't accept it even when in black and white from true source. Totally dillusional to the end......

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To be fair, there does seem to be a bit of truth in this one:

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2012/03/01/ticketus-chiefs-eager-to-help-rangers-find-solution-to-financial-problems-86908-23771220/

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As a season ticket holder on the Club Deck, i hate the thought of my hard earned money going to Ticketus next season. Ticketus were a significant culprit in this sorry fiasco by allowing Whyte to mislead everyone into thinking he'd Ł24m of his own money to buy the club. As far as I'm concerned, Ticketus are opportunistic greedy b@$+@rd$ who were out for a fast buck. They deserve to lose the lot for their key role of bank rolling that wee lying Whyte toad !

If Ticketus are still in the frame next season, I won't be renewing my season ticket next year. I'd rather pay for tickets on a game by game basis.


Does any one else feel the same ?

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Ticketus have the season ticket rights

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Does this mean that Ticketus still get money if people pay for tickets on a game by game basis ? Anyone know ?

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I am amazed that the press has not picked up on the fact that the Ticketus deal was done when Rangers were still owned by Murray.

The obvious question is, how can Murray claim not to have signed off this deal when he was the owner of the Club?

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01 Mar 2012 13:41:59
from stv.tv
It is unlikely Rangers' administrators will make an announcement on potential redundancies on Thursday, STV understands.

A statement is expected from Duff and Phelps shortly, which will confirm no decision will be relayed until at least Friday.

It is understood that administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse are still discussing plans over which cuts will have to be made at the club, as they attempt to bring running costs under control.

Rangers' first team squad will hold further discussions with PFA Scotland on Thursday, seeking further advice on what will happen next at Ibrox ... jsm

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Good to see that the day late rebel is maintaining its high standard of journalism - when you don't know anything make it up!

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To put a positive spin on events, we will hopefully see the end of duds like broadfoot, mcculloch, bedoya, lafferty and healy. i for one will be glad to see the back of these players who offer the team hee haw!

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01 Mar 2012 13:27:15
Chris McLaughlin BBC sports has said on twitter that "Definitive announcemet on job losses at Rangers more likely to be tomorrow. Still number crunching."

Gers1986

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Yup! confirmed by STV. Duff & Phelps to make press announcement to that effect later today.

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They also said it could b next week

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At Portsmouth it took 24 hours, what is going on

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More than 2 weeks for any decisions - what's the delay?

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There's no "delay". They have to conduct their business with "due diligence" & with interest to the continuing trading of the company (RFC) and its creditors. This takes time. Especially when missing monies etc are involved. Cant just make knee-jerk reactions

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01 Mar 2012 12:54:40
administrators to announce redundancies today. just been up at murray park and its packed with reporters. mccoist just left at 12.00.

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NO they are not

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Well they've just released a statement (according to Radio Scotland) saying that there will be no announcements today. Looks like all those reporters can get back to the office!

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Why make things up?

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01 Mar 2012 12:38:30
Keith Jackson on talksport
today saying liquidation more likely
without a buyer ASAP Also paul murray
on show tomorrow bout 1130 ..RTID

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What did Paul Murray say?

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Kieth Jackson...another clown like Darrell King speculating ecause he has no inside info. Until administrators speak there word is no better than rumours on this site. These guys are paid to sell media, not truth!

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He's on talksport friday at 11:45am.

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01 Mar 2012 12:02:51
Woman in ticket office said looks like game will sell out. Only place with two seats next two each other after mine are the club deck. Govan sold out

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01 Mar 2012 11:58:43
The Club needs your support for the remainder of the season. Quarter season tickets for the final part of the season are now on sale from only £114 for adults and £37 for kids in the Main Stand Rear.

Come on guys lets get behind the Rangers!!!

Army Bear!

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If the games aren't played will u get yer money back?

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Get your money back, of course, right after taxman, vatman, paye, tickitus, hearts, dunfermline, police, security company, etc.etc.etc.
Any season booksbought now will be lucky to see more than two home games

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If they can give a money back gaurantee!

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Ate you nuts? Who buys something that they might not get used to? Think the club has a cheek selling season books that might not be valid.

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No point as cash does not go to GERS

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Shame this any money made from this will be swallowed up discracefull

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01 Mar 2012 11:45:25
Heard a rumour that McCoist has pleaded with Administrators for Celik to be kept as he believes he is a player with real potential. Kerkar will also stay. Almost certain to go are Papac, Bartley, Bedoya, Healy and Ortiz.

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Ally will have to decide by wages alone i would think.big earners first,then sell on......to all decent gers fans.........good luck

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I thought Ortiz had gone back to his old club weeks ago. Del

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Ortiz was loaned back was he not. If so then he is still a registered Rangers player.

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If he was pleading to keep anyone it should be aluko he must see something in celik that i dont if thats the case

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Ortiz only on loan to Almeria

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Yip coz you have seen loads of Celik eh. First half against D Utd on his debut where the whole team was rank and a couple of sub appearances where he done a decent job. Some basis to form an opinion on a player that eh.

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If you had watched that 45 minutes against Dundee Utd you would know he's not going to be a world beater.

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More likely Bartley to stay because Arsenal will be lumped with his wages wheter he plays for us or rots in arsenals reserves.

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01 Mar 2012 10:53:10
Sad day fellow bears..

Players & Coaching staff likely to go today

Papac
Healy
Broadfoot
Bedoya
Aluko
Kerkar
McCulloch
Alexander
Celik
Jim Stewart (GK Coach)

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Bartley will be away back to Arsenal too.

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9 players ?? dont think so 6 at most

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There will b 11 in total between first team and reserves

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So DR post a story on their website early this morning BEFORE administrators have even had a chance to meet with any staff and everyone immediately believes it? Geez! DR should be administrators cos they seem to know things before even Duff & Phelps do!

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Forgot to say; DR story is contradicted by S*n story saying just 6 players to go! And I doubt Alexander will be one as that'd leave no experienced cover if McGregor gets injured

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11 players wages should just about cover the Administration fees.

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Alexandr will be a sure thing to go? the administrators would rathet get rid of someone who never plays, and hope mcgregor stays fit... experience back up isnt a necessity...

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01 Mar 2012 10:36:11
Just been on talk sport (Keys and Gray) Rangers will announce 11 player redundancies today. Not confirmed who or wether 1st team or wot but 11 is the number! sad sad days. We need someone to step into the breach quickly!

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Haha, some mug clicked unbelievable. Head your out pull arse your.

I'll let you work the order out.

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Wouldn't have been necessary if players had agreed to wage deferral. Poor show.

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This is going to be a wage deferal for the survivors as well!

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01 Mar 2012 08:56:07
Celik, Bedoya, Healy, Alexander, Bartley, Papac, McCulloch, Goian, Broadfoot, Hemmings and Ortiz to leave this morning.

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Did you just pick the 11 you'd like to see or have you got a source ?

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I would be very surprised if this list was not spot on.

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Right enough is enough fellow bears,this shyster needs to be booted out of RFC now,he is taking the P**s now bears time to give him a rough ride

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I'm sure this wont be far off, however this list only leaves us with one striker - Little

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What kind of deal was it that goian signed

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Where does this information come from, did I miss an announcement from the Administrators?

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Ortiz is away to Almeria awready.

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Ortiz only on loan at mo and we're paying part of his wages. If they're purely looking at players with sell on value and players out of contract, Little and Aluko could be under threat as will Kerkar, and they may keep Bedoya

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Just wait and see no one knows but whoever it is my heart is with you sad way to leave rangers but lets stand by which ever team ally puts out on park

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Can we no put that donkey laugherty on the list.

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This lot leaving would make the squad stronger !!

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Gutted fan shocking

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Looks good to me

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01 Mar 2012 00:18:31
no use asking when you want F@ckin money rangers
i want someone to step up NOW........LES

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Desperate people were linking anyone including Brian Kennedy, He very skillfully moved himself away....
HMRC are moving to Liquidate Div2 Port Vale over Ł750k. They are currently in Admin....not much comfort but at least we're not being singled out.

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Les, until all is revealed where the finances have went nobody will be stepping up sadly. Paul Murray is on talksport at 10am with Gray and Keys

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01 Mar 2012 00:15:52
in our moment of most need
where is our owner?

in our moment of most need
where is our hero,s

in our moment of most need
where is our ex-players

in our moment of most need
ffs someone step up

.......les

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Super Ally is the only hero stepping up to the plate - whatever you think of him as a manager he is a true rangers legend - I for one will never forget the dignity and drive he has shown in our clubs darkest period!

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Im disgusted brother disgusted........les

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I hate to say it Les but no one involved in RFC shares your loyalty or urgency.
Something to do with a big tax case and an operating loss of 10 million per year.

Be patient, take the medecine, and RFC will come out all the stronger, it is not the end of RFC or the world.

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I know so am I but do you not agree super ally has been first class through this? Gers1986

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Got a feeling it could all be over........and we all sat on our hands...ffs open pandoras box and give me some hope

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And just exactly was anybody supposed to do - Am getting fed up with this 'sat on our hands & did nothing' cr8p
i personally don't have 2 or 300 million to throw dowen the drain, but i have bought the season tickets x2, the shirts, the pies, the books - but it looks like next to none of this was going to RFC
Do people actually think standing outside Ibrox and shouting the odds will achieve anything!!!
From the beginning it was said 'there was a plan'! too bloody right and we're being (& have been) getting scr$%ed for years.
It can only end 1way, and I can't see us 'getting stronger' playing out if the 3rd division ffs!
Hope samaritans have got extra bodies on the phones for this month!

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Les mate, there are plenty of us feeling your anger & frustration but we have to remain positive on this whole sorry mess Craig Whyte & so called Sir David Murray has left our club in.
Ally said "We don't do walking away" we should also add "We don't do giving up"
Remember the old saying - "it only happens once in a blue moon" well "if" this is our "blue moon" we as supporters should deal with it with as much dignity as we have. We didn't create the mess, we have been left with it by people who were in a position of trust.
Those who are walking on the moral high ground just now, regarding our situation, should do well to remember this time, for he who laugh's last..... laugh's longest... Head up, Chest out, Walk with pride.

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RFC will not be playing in the 3rd division, Portsmouth FC was not liquidated with debts of 100 million ffs !
This is not the time to panic, RFC may miss out on Europe next year but that is the worst scenario.
The bottom line is the Big House will stay open becaue it is worth more money as a going concern. Ibrox and Murray Park have no real value except to a trading Rangers.

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Yep all hiding

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To be honest its very quiet somethings going down i think its a lot worse than whats being said

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