Rangers Rumours Archive September 01 2011

 

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01 Sep 2011 23:50:24
Rumour has it a certain p lawwel is intimidated by rangers ability to reject high bids for prized assets

Stooj-Govan Rear

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Well you better add andy goram to that list too you gullable sap

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Watching Lawell on t.v made me think this is a man under pressure, he's losing it, and he's actually scared of the champions.
Oh and also a man with no class nor dignity.
Ignore the first reply m8, he's the gullible SAP.

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Top quality from lord lawell

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Lawell just showed himself up as having no class,no dignity and no title for 3years GIRFUY

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Some people just don't have a sense of humour. Lighten up a bit and have a laugh. Football is supposed to be an entertainment.

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01 Sep 2011 23:44:44
The way things look at the moment theres no chance of us signing anyone else. Under smith we did sign a few "marquee" players as mcoist put it a few weeks ago. The players got a right lift with weiss,diouff and bartely this time hee haw !

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I know smith was smart in the transfer market he went for quality, mccoist is clueless in the transfer market has panic bought and has went for quantity over quality the very thing that has lost celtic the title the past 3 years

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But the players Celtic have bought will make them a profit when selling them,can you say that about the players Rangers have brought in!NO

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01 Sep 2011 23:35:17
I know how to raise 100k a year get shot of gordon smith.

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Well Im not sitting outside central station with a begging bowl if you wont sonny boy...lol

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Why get rid of Smith? He has nothing to do with signings or buying players. He said so him self on BBC a few weeks back after the Goodwillie farce.

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Well Scottkilt7 what does he do?

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Scottkilt what is his role then if he has nothing to do with bids why was he on tv at the beginning of the season saying rangers had bid at least 10 mill on players

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01 Sep 2011 23:26:31
Why are people still posting players who are free agents? What planet u on we are on the verge of admin and u still think we are going sign players

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We may not have any more money to spend on wages... but we are most definitely not on the verge of administration, thanks to Whyte. I think folk need to get off his back... we were much worse off before he came along... without him we'd have no new signings and all our big players would be sold off.

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You are a joke not a rangers fan. you've got 1 man to thank for rangers not being in admin and it's the same guy that everyones hassling. leave the guy alone

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Finally a post that is actually correct well done to the original poster spot on bud.

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Time tae get of whytes back, look fellow bears how many players regardless of how good they are would we have in if loyds still had us,we would be begging for the transfer window 2 shut in case we lost any of our top players and the s.f.a did,nt help by starting the league 2 weeks early mind you when do the sfa help teams in there league

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Surprise surprise mate they have just helped celtic get back into the europa league what a farce

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01 Sep 2011 21:02:20
HAREWOOD DIOUF VICENTE MURPHY ALL ON SHORTLIST OF FREE TRANSFERS.

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And we've nae money ffs

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We wont sign any1, we dont have any money to pay wages ffs!

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Your right lads go to bbc red button football our club are having to deny that our bank assets are frozen

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Harewood joined chinese club....cant see us getting anyone...mccoist = trumpet

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Vicente signed for brighton you numpty!

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01 Sep 2011 21:01:51
Have it on good authority the gers have been to a bank looking for a line of credit.Not the lloyds again. DONT RUBISH THIS!! a member of my family works for them (not just a clerc or phone operator) This may explain why no cash was spent during the window (sales and buys balancing out)

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Why didn't we just sell jelavic if things are as bad as you say they are?

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Things are not that bad, there is some money about now, hence the reason players have been given new/improved contracts, weather they are the right players is another matter, however the megga monney some people think we have does not exist! Selling jellavic would have been to little too late. What would we have done with an hour poss 2 at the end of the window, grab at anyone?

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Most businesses would have a line of credit.

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Your not allowed to speak of peoples /business accounts no matter what level of banking your family member works at, your talking sh*te just another tool with 2 much time on your hands

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Whyte owns 30+ businesses ya muppet. He knows what he's doing,, he's worth 100mill+. Some people struggle to put a price on his wealth because he is so shrewd in business. Doubt his ability at your perl. Celtic are intimidated by the man and pl is just taking attention away from Celtics own troubles. Lennon when asked what the euro game meant didn't even mention how important it was t his team, just how important it was t himself. In my opinion a man who had a quota t qualify or face the punt. Lemon gone by Xmas

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01 Sep 2011 20:22:38
Nikica Jelavic spoke to Ally McCoist last night on the phone and reassured him that he was NOT going to leave Rangers. He has already said that he will not leave until after this season, where he will then CONSIDER him future. He is on a 4 year deal so after next season he will have 2 years left, which means we can still hold out for more money (IMO no less than £15m). There was never any real danger of him leaving us.

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Well said mate just the facts just the facts...helluva lotta confessions on here....wipe yer chin....

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U will never get 15 mil for an spl player who has never played champion's league football. Where do u get that valuation from? Playing against the likes of Ross Tokely and Gary Kenneth. Absolutley ridiculous thing 2 say!

Drew

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Aye and no danger of getting 15.000000

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Hello drew all I will say to your post is more able minded people in the trade think he (jelavic) is worth much more ,so maybe you can tell us all ..what qualifications you have -that they dont- that makes you feel you are right,and they are wrong ...over to you..grizzliebear.

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15Million?? hahah ahah aha ahhahah ah ahaha
Llyods just want back what they paid and if push comes to shove the bailifts will be in a seize him and sell him at auction for £4.2 Million which is what he cost.

The shame are mental

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No1 thinks he is worth more, if u really think there was a late bid of 9 mil when he was away with croatia and therefore wasnt enough time to get the deal done then ur a mug. 'An unnamed team' dont make me laugh. Look at the chances he mist against Malmo and Maribor. I mean theres even talk now that Leicster didn't even make a bid. He's worth 8 mil at best and thats me bein generous.

Drew

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Why did Liverpool think they could steal him for 11 million when Rangers had already turned down 12 million offer from Man United? Meanwhile back from La La Land Leciecester offered 6.5 million

David

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To david,,,, if man utd wanted him and had offered the 12 mill you said then they would have paid the extra to get him.
There is no way rangers turned down 12 million for him, think about it hes played jstvover half a season against diddy teams in the spl.
12 million= not a remote chance.

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01 Sep 2011 19:41:25
900k deal for Gekas was agreed but then scrapped after Rangers failed to qualify for the Europa League. Rangers spending ended when we lost to Maribor.

Source - Clyde 1 superscoreboard.

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Don't know why i listen to that programme it 'lets have a go at Rangers' if i were AMcC, CW or GS etc i would boycott their post match interviews and stories

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Boycott for what? Telling the truth? Keeping the fans i the loop with wots goin on? Get the blue tinted specs off and stop actin like a big wayne ya clown!

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So you wouldn't boycott so called journalists who tell the club they should sell their best players and are stupid for not doing that?

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Why is it that "Gers fans" are willing to believe every bad story that is coming out in the press. Could it not be that McCoist wanted a striker but the right one was maybe not available for the right price. Other fans have been moaning that he must be quite a way down his list of targets and we would be getting second best. Is it not better to wait and get the right player in (for the right money). Rangers spent £5 million on players and wages, which is what was promised. No mention was made of this being net spend. Craig Whyte also offered to front end this if Ally felt it was needed. This could explain the bids for Goodwillie, Verhoek, and Juhasz. However when they were unable to get them for the right price he possibly decided that he did not want to spend the offered front end monies at this time. Who knows if that offer will be available in January or next year. Losing out on Europe will affect budgets; if your company lost a contract the same would follow. As far as I can see promises were kept, and although I would have liked big money signings I would prefer to have a well run side whose new signings may prove good enough to win league.

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Totally agree, the unwashed are loving this turmoil at ibrox, the team let everyone down in Europe - end off, get on with it, stop whinging on radio phone in's giving these people ammunition, the rangers stories in the papers are full of comments from them, they are still scared of us, |i know i live with one

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To the long drawn out post above. the 5 mil promosed was for transfers, signing players up on longer deals although i agree was important was still a seperate issue. We have spent a net total of 1 mil on NEW players. We've been shafted, end of story.

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01 Sep 2011 18:45:47
If Jelavic was refused the opportunity to sign for Liverpool he is likely to go off his nut. And, he'll be even worse if he wasn't told of the offer.

Remember, this is the man who went on strike at Rapid Vienna when they were refusing to transfer him to Rangers.

Jelavic is using Rangers to try and get a move to one of the top teams in the EPL, which no one can blame him for. Liverpool may not come knocking again, so he'll be totally p1ssed off.

Expect him to come back injured from international duty.

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Ur a donut. 1 of the papers the day. has a quote fi mccoist sayin he phnd jealvic n he wntd to stay for now

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You are so naive to believe there was ever an offer for £9million. Just Whytes way of trying to get the fans back on side by saying LOOK I

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He has had a heart to heart with Ally and pledged his future to the club. Ger4life

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The phone call McCosit refers to was in relation to Leicester NOT Liverpool.

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What is it about the conspiracy theorists? out in force trying to make a song and dance over an offer for a player that undoubtedly is worth 9 million.mcgeady? surely if your talkin 10 million pound player,then hes worth it.even looking for a conspiracy in our transfer dealings,pretty sad to be honest.

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I agree u r a donut, any bid made would go thru his agent so how could rangers keep it from him,and he knew about rangers interest when he was with rapid.

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Not a conspiracy, just lies from the Rangers camp.

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Why would a refused bid of £9 million get the fans onside but a lower one wouldn't. We still keep the player. If we are so broke why did we not except it?

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For a start, if someone did bid 9m rangers would not have been able to refuse that.

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You're a septic wee gobs**te arent you? the bid was refused cause we had no time to replace him. I think he'll go in Jan and i'll take 8 mil for him and bring in 2 or 3 more good quality players. no man is unsellable

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If we are so broke why did we not except it?
Perhaps because there was no offer

David

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The bid was refused cause we had no time to replace him. I think he'll go in Jan and i'll take 8 mil for him and bring in 2 or 3 more good quality players. no man is unsellable

Finally a sensable comment on this from a bear. But I dont think you'll get 8 mill for him. Although you might, depends how desperate he is to go and how desperate Liecester are

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01 Sep 2011 18:37:27
All the rangers fans are dillusional if they think the jelavic thing is a hoax,i have it on authority liverpool wanted him,the big problem was that the bid was to late to tie up another striker,mcfadden is out of contract so dont be surprised if he ends up at rangers in october as he is proving his fitness at the moment,if we sign him then guaranteed jelavic will be off in january,besides we got rid of beattie to make up the wages from mcfadden,this is fact.

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Are you nuts, if some made up team had offered £9mill for jelavic mr whyte would have drove him down himself and threw in lafferty for free. get a grip he needs every penny going when the inland revenue tell the sheriff officers to move in.

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Liverpool have announced on lfctv that it's a lie and did not come from them. sounds like some jiggery-pokery going on here

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Why would liverpool want him, Bellamy,kuyt, suarez,carroll etc oh aye they really need Jelavic to do what exactly????????

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That aint fact name and source ??

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What freed up wages,Rangers would have 2 compensate him as he did sign a contract,FACT!

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You have it on authority from who? the voices in ur head?

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01 Sep 2011 18:14:30
right lets get 1 thing straight they were no 9million pound bid for jelavic thats whyte putting that out there just to keep the blue tinted specs brigade
happy rangers were quick enough to name the club with the 6.5 million bid but not 9million why coz it didnt happen coz whyte the con-man has done us up like kippers he told us to judge 1st sept will its time an what he has done is not good enough its the simple craig con-man whyte is a disgrace to rangers fc


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There was a 9million bid rejected by Rangers, they value Jelavic at 12million...fact

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Get a grip bears lets give the lads a chance get behind the team and stick it right up all these rangers haters ps have a look at the league table a think youll see were at the top

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01 Sep 2011 18:12:24
when is matt mckay coming is it after the international games this weekend czo my friend said that matt mckay said that there would b no point flying in 2 glasgow for a couple of days then go bak 2 austrailia and that he's coming after the internationals this weekend

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Matt mckay will not be at rangers until after the international double header, your mate was right.

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He'll be here in time for the Scumdee Utd game after the international break. He didn't see the point in clocking up all the air miles just to go all the way back a week later. I think the Oz National team boss had advised him to stay put and Rangers were ok with it.

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Kk cheers m8 :)

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He's a tidy player lads. Hopefully him and Davis wil pair up nicely in the middle but because he's left footed ally will probably waste him on the left.

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He's a left sided midfielder who can playorr central so wouldn't b wasted on the left plays there for the socceroos

Willie

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Lol hes a tidy player.... Think youve been on the whyte & mckay!! Hes a pub team player who cost how much?? Pennies ha ha ha ha

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Yeah a 'pub team player' - where do they breed 'supporters' like you? He was player of the year in the A League last season and is highly rated. I live in Australia and opposing fans of Brisbane Roar are so pleased he's going - that should also tell you something! You muppet!

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01 Sep 2011 17:50:00
Its obvious that rangers went public aboit jelivic to make out rangers done well in the transfer window by keeping him overall white has done ok and i suppose more would hav been available for transfers if we reached the group stages

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Don't be a clown. Whyte should have spent at the BEGINNING of the transfer window, and then Rangers would very likely have been in the Group stages.

You buy good players to win competitions, you don't win competitions with average players and then go out an buy the good ones.

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Everyone knew when the champ league games were everyone knew what positions needed strenthened nothing was done we have sugned no one that is any better than we had and certainly no one that would be considered a player we might sell on at a profit.

ortiz - nothing back there
wallace lets see but if we got our money back i would be surprised
bedoya- lets give him a chancefirst
bocanegra- to old to sell on at a profit but looks decent
healy- for gods sake give the boy a full game but no sell on
goian - looks ok but same as all new faces lets see where it goes?
as i have said on here before disappointed in what we have done since whyte took over were going nowhere and the sooner he realizes that even if we were to win the scottish treble it amounts to what he has just done f@ck all we used to be huge now also rans but being a ger u can only support them....confused u will be?

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He tried to buy players before Europe: Danns, Conway, Hemed etc. Whyte might well have announced the largest bid as PR but then gers fans are always wanting to be kept in loop; is this not what is happening here. The gossip columns said Liverpool were interested and "bid" leicester beat that offer and an unnamed club offered more. At no point can I find Rangers saying the largest bid came from Liverpool, Just "fans" putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

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01 Sep 2011 17:09:04
So earlier in the week I posted about my source (reporter friend from school) that no more signings would be made and that McCoist asked Whyte to keep the squad he had rather than sell to buy. And that Whyte would release a statement outlining the reasons why no more money was be spent (elimination from Europe) and was called a liar....

100% accurate so apologies whenever your ready those who doubted me.....

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U dont leave a name so u are a liar jog on ya fool

an its whytes fault we are out of europe


T-Bear

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Don't pat yourself on the back too much. It's only a huge minority that thought otherwise.

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Yeah, and I "reported" that Jelavic wouldn't be sold but I'm not asking for an apology so get your head our your own rear end eh sweetheart!!

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Mate, its not like you provided an exclusive inside story or anything. You had a hunch just like everyone else and it turned out to be the case.

Everyone knew deep down, we would be signing no more players.

Get a grip ffs!

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Hes no wanting to spend much money hes there to make it realise it

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Self praise= No Honour.

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Sorry for not believing you mate!

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Wheres this statement explaining why no more money would be spent cant see anything anywhere..........ready when you are mate

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We bow to ur infinite wisdom.yawnnnnnn

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Whytes fault were out of Europe? we had so many chances to beat malmo and maribor and didn't take them. fact is we had 17 shots on target in the second maribor match. the strikers we have couldn't do anything and we paid 7.5 mill for jelavic and lafferty, so its not about not spending. our so called better players having shockers and getting red cards is in my opinion what put us out. whyte has kept our spending in control, as a rangers fan i would liked to have seen more new faces, but our spending had to be controlled as we have no european football to subsidize it.

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I wont be patting you on the heid son..why not go to the septic tank buy loads of their gear and put it on and stand in front of a full size mirror and see if you like what you see.

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01 Sep 2011 16:55:31
Is It true Rangers receive 250k for each game Danny Wilson plays in Lpool 1st team for his first 10 games, i.e 2.5M. Just wondering cause he played in the league cup game last week.

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I heard something similar mate although i can't remember the exact amount per game.

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I think it's £1m once he reaches 10 first team apperances and another £1m on his 50th apperance.

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01 Sep 2011 16:51:13
i have heard a roumour that rangers bank account has been frozen so the money that mr whyte promised wasn't aloud touched until the tax case issue is sorted a just wish he came out and told us right away insteady leaving the fans to wake up to a big signing when in matter of fact wee were waking up to nothing

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I have heard this to on newsnow

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Why would he come out and mention something that you had said is a RUMOUR?

Some of the idiots on this forum are unbelievable!

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Total rubbish!!!!! Its not possible to simply freeze an account without various warnings. I can smell a sellik fan starting this one

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An account can be frozen before the schedule of intent lands thro the letter box?

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If this is true then it might explain the £100,000 bid for Tshabalala.

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01 Sep 2011 16:26:57
Rangers owner Craig Whyte has spent in excess of £5 million on transfers and improved contracts for key players this summer with Lee Wallace, Dorin Goian, Carlos Bocanegra, Alejandro Bedoya, Kyle Bartley, Juan Manuel Ortiz and Matt McKay all boosting last season's title-winning squad.
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This was taken from the Rangers website.
If that's the case Whyte was true to his word. He has spent the £5m that he promised. It's just that nobody thought the wages was included in the £5m.
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Thats a load if s**te

Davis, whittikar, mcgregor were all on about £18000 previous so the only amount he can arguably count is the difference of £7k x 3 players x 52 weeks = £1m

Add transfers, minus adam, boughie, still only £2m

He is fkn at it!

The normal wages had to be paid for these guys anyway, unless he is counting the wahes of the enti squad, tha being the case no signings again ever! As wages need paid and the wage bill over £5m

Craig whyte = talks s**te

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No he promised 18 million for transfers you mean and just transfers

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He was quoted in papers saying more was there if needed an we need it

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First of all whittaker was on nowhere near 18K a week. It was more like 8K. In fact Im sure a paper printed that at one point.

He did not say that Ally McCoist would be handed 15M simply for transfer fees to other clubs for players. Thats what you blinkered fans wanted to believe.

But in reality there is a lot more to the finances of a transfer window than you think!

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Lol hes a buisness man hes only here to make money not spend sooner its realised the better

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So if we got 15 million from champions league. he will only give us 5 million that is wot it looks like.

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Whittaker was on 8k and tripled his wages with the new contract. It was printed at the time of Bursaspor's interest.

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It was quoted as £5 million for transfers and wages. He did not say net spend, i.e. taking into account sales. He also said a front end amount would be available if Ally thought it was needed, not Gers fans. Bids went in for Juhasz, Goodwillie and Verhoek. When Ally did not get them perhaps he thought he should not spend that money.

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He may have spent that much BUT we received 1.7 mill for bougherra and 900k at least from charlie adam deal .... so his NET spend was only 2.4 million !

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01 Sep 2011 15:59:24
with rangers trying to explore the lucrative commercial markets in USA and Australia,did Ally really want Bedoya and Mckay or where these signings made by someone upstairs?On to another subject...if the so called bid of 9 million for jelavic had been made days before the window closed,would he still be a rangers player?

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Quick answer to that is no! We were linked to Bedoya at Xmas but we could agree a fee, also at that time Birmingham showed an interest and took him on trial as well for a week. We pulled out because of the EPL interest...

We already have a huuge following in australia anyway so think your post is just garbage and another excuse to moan

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The problem for me is, if Ally is unhappy with the situation, why has he not put his hand up and said so? If he really DOES think everything is fine then that's worse! He is either weak or thick...

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Lets watch them first then judge on weather they were bought for promotion values rather than playing merit

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01 Sep 2011 16:47:30
I have it on good authority that Macoist wants Mcfadden not dioff (wages too expensive) not sure if faddy would go for it as he's a big tim!! Also if anyone actually thinks we turned down this big 9mill deal then ur mental. It was a hoax 100percent, made up to make Craig S&ite look good. I assure you this is a fact.
This is the guy who has gave sally exactly 1million to play with after all the ins and outs!! Were in trouble this season.
Big Bear goven 79

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Think your as big a tim as McFadden , what Rangers fan doesn't know how to spell Govan ? Back to the page where the loser prizes get dished out !

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I somehow cant see diouf being as expensive as mcfadden but youve got a terrible imagination for being a septic supporter lol

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And how would a complete fud like you know?

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Aye back to yer own pages,trying to start a whipround here to pay our players wages since the taxman has frozen our bank accounts!!

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There was never a 9million bid in

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How was it made up to make Whyte look good exactly?

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01 Sep 2011 16:43:10
i have heard a roumour that rangers bank account has been frozen a don't really get it waiting for more news to come up about it

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The banks are surely all in the ice age where you live m8 never mind they,ll get the dole money asap and we,ll be open again.They tell me septic have changed their wine list for the corporate lunches to 6 special types of buckie that true ?

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Have heard this also,press bein breifed just now.seemingly no money has been paid towards tax bill!absolute joke,wheres all this money whyte?!

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It has been frozen over small unpaid tax bill of about 2.4 million......source Rangers supporters trust

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01 Sep 2011 20:03:25
rangers bank account has not been frozen its on rangers media link below

home.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php/component/content/article/41-finances/1268-rangers-bank-accounts-have-not-been-frozen-by-hmrc.html

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01 Sep 2011 16:13:45
Mr Whyte hasn't sold any of our top stars, he has put the players Ally wanted on long contracts and refuses to sell our players for peanuts. Some of our fans need a reality check.

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The reality is... the top players were tied down to put their value up. FACT we have less players now than we did last season FACT better position to win the title? It's you that needs the check up

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Reality check? It is you that needs a reality check!!nobody came in for your big stars!!9 million from a mystery buyer...aye right!pay yer taxes!!

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No some of thebfans are jus not having any of what whyte is shovellin

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Well said man , ive said it all along the guy has done nothing wrong we have bought 5 or 6 players this season for f*** sake how much more players do we need no wonder we are always in debt

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Oh aye he is a star whittaker paid 2 much on 6k oh wait a min we will give the waste of space 24k

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He signed up the players to ensure we did not lose them for peanuts or worse nothing. Is this not good business practice and what every other club tries to do. The benefit is that they then play for us for the length of the new contract or we get a bigger fee if someone wants to sign them. Why is this a problem? Also if we are so broke then why did we not accept the leicester offer. Turning this down showed we did not want to sell him. Rangers have said it would need to be silly money to get him; even Man Utd have this policy e.g. Ronaldo

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01 Sep 2011 15:50:38
in my opinion what rangers should do is start looking for really young talented footballers and take them on from all over the world like madin mohammed who is only like 7 it works for barcelona why not us?

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Agree with this 100% I posted a similar post on the banter page. The future is in youth

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It would be a difficult to get a work permit for a seven year old. Plus there is a lot of cost. With Messi Barcelona brought his whole family over to Spain and supported them financially to begin with. That would cost a lot of money, but I do agree it would be a great system.

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It works for barca for many reasons
la liga is a good league.

the culture in spain suits bringing young players through.

they give young players a chance no matter what age they are i.e messi

and the spanish fans dont get on there back at every opurtunity-example charlie adam

there are other reasons but i wont name them all

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Simple answer your coaches are pish compared to barcelona. also they have a football philosophy, rangers dont for example barca play 4-3-3 regardless of coach and teach youth to play that way. rangers tell players to punt long until u19s

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Its not as simple as that unfort... in the UK the parents would have to move with them and depending on what they do etc would determine what visa they were allowed to obtain... If the parents do not fit the bill then our pals HM rev and customs would allow them entry...

Also teams like Barca buy these people houses which we cant afford to do...

Also the SFA rules state no contract can be given to a player younger than 16 so in theory we could get a young player at 7, train him and then when he hits 16 Man u come in offer him a fortune and stick it right in our ass, so its nbot viable

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Just like arsenal do with 16 and 17 year olds from europe? well that never worked for them

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The scottish games no good enought for that, teams would just take them off us like now

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You're missing the point thinking that getting foreign youngsters in is the answer.

We need to completely change the set up of Scottish football and produce our own talent.

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I reallly agree with this point but instead of getting players from abroad we should focus on scottish player from the age of 5 up and employ real good coaches from holland and germany etc cause weed need to change the way we think/teach/play our kids about the game no more just punt it up the park stuff
might take a good couple of years but it can only be good in the long term

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Agree with the last poster. Also the player needs to be from within a distance of the club; hence the reason Barca need to buy houses and move their parents. IF a club come in and pinch him at 16 then we would be due compansation. Arsenal manage to pich players from Barca because barca need to wait until the player is 17 to sign a pro contract

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01 Sep 2011 15:34:24
Can't beleive McCoist let Hutton go on loan. He offers 100 times more to our team than either edu or mcculloch.

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Hutton and flecks loan deals to sheff utd have fallen through, STV

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Couldn't agree more but at this stage he really needs to get a lot of game time and a confidence boost which he will get in the lower leagues

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It fell through mate

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100 times?? the guys not even a regular he has potential but he`s nowhere near good enough yet he plays side ways just like edu and mcculloch a loan move should be the best thing to happen to him his forward play needs loads of work

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01 Sep 2011 15:27:06
I think we should start copying other club's fans, and start by boycotting all rangers merchandise, still go to Ibrox but DONT buy anything inside including programmes, food and drink. When their match day profits start going down, maybe Mr Whyte and co will LISTEN. Wee Bud True Blue

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What clubs do this?

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Why would you do that? What are you going to gain?
Do that then not only will you jeopardise the club your supposed to support but the atmosphere at Ibrox will no longer be as everybody will be too hungry to jeer the team on because they haven't a pie in their stomach!

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Why though? Mate there is nothing to worry about at rangers other than this tax case. Conspiracy theorists will always have their theories about any organisation. Muzz

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Why would any football fan do that to a club. The problems wont go away themselves. I guarantee you, REAL football fans back their team, no matter what happens. And there's plenty of them out there.

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If whyte hadnt of come in we wouldnt have Scotland No.1 goalkeeper, N.Ireland No.1 Midfielder and imagine Jelavic either!!

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F*ck off.catch a grip,whats that gonna achieve?! seriously,whats yer problem? call yourself a fan but wanting to strangle the club.no way,not ever.
drumlad

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So, let me get this straight...your plan to get Whyte to spend money is to deprive the club of MORE funds? Yeah, that’s some sound business sense right there…

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Hmmmmm then we will have even less money to spend on worse rubbish!!

mark the bear

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And that helps Rangers how?

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When the matchday profits start falling merchandise isnt selling, players will be sold to balance the books and the quality of player we will bring in will be worse than what we have. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to work that out! But maybe stop worrying about how much we spend on players and start getting behind the team including mccoist and whyte will help sshow the players that the whole club is behind them and has faith in them! U dont have to spend millions to get a decent team on the pitch there is plenty of bargains out there and u especially dont have to spend millions to win the spl!

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Or how about w wait and see what ally can do with the squad that he has, we still havn't seen Bedoya and mackay properly yet, I think big Laff will be a revelation this season along side jelavic, goian and boca are both solid deffenders at the back, davo and naismith in the middle both very creative, Wilde is good on the left and only gona get better, i think we are in better shape than people think, so lets get behind the club, continue to give our support, vocally and by spending our money as normal! lets give white a chance,Ally has said he is happy with the squad he has now so lets get behind him from the start this time not like we did when he first joined the club as a player. super Ally super Ally ole ole ole!

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True blue ? True to what? Stand by the team including merchandise or stay away and save your money rangers need supporters not those who dream up ways to harm the club .Craig whyte and ally are living and operating in the real world you can't spend beyond your means remember 2tax cases with legal costs need to be considered keep the faith stay positive

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The catering is hired out, programmes too....so by not purchasing them your only hurting the sellers that own the franchise that sell at ibrox!

Boycott one game, against a hibs or hamilton....then Whyte would take you serious!

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At the end of May how many of you would have said yes to being told come August 31 we would have 7 new players lost Boughy but kept Jelavic Naismith and Davis. Just because there isnt a signing that everyone knows doesnt make it a bad transfer window. I have to agree some of the bids have been a joke but hey we have fresh faces that have yet to be proven so lets start to think positive instead of all moaning about boycotts and Whyte being a shyster etc.....We are the people!

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Rediculous claim, lets see how mr whyte spends cash when they raise the clubs rev etc.... after trying to break USA and other ventures... He has budgeted for our current turnover and tax case. After thats over and the marketing ploy is unleashed i think we will all be a lot happier..

i hope

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Do that then not only will you jeopardise the club your supposed to support but the atmosphere at Ibrox will no longer be as everybody will be too hungry to jeer the team on because they haven't a pie in their stomach!

just a thought and i know it sounds crazy but could u not have something to eat b4 u leave for the game or buy something to eat b4 u get into ibrox just to make sure your not starving for 90 minutes of football

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I would rather boycott the papers that print the fodder and the phone in shows

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01 Sep 2011 15:13:12
Not a rumour but just a thought, if Bob Bradley came in to assist [not replace Ally] and we signed any more americans do you think any chance of cash injection from the USA.

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No, it is currently more of a marketing ploy, trying to exploit the 'scottish' americans.

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Just a thought but all this attention from America may attract a new potential bidder to purchase the club. Any thoughts?

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Maybe a rich american owner will buy us that way? haha.

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Start being a suppoerter and get behind the current management team instead of wanting nobodies to come in and take over the show and forget about trying to run rangers pr department and accounts!

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It already looks to be paying off with Rangers in talks with FOX over a TV deal.

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I need a dollar,dollar,a dollar is what i need.lol.

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01 Sep 2011 14:35:48
Who thinks we should be giving Kerkar and Bendiksen a chance to see if they can fill the illicit wide right role. Any time iv seen them play theyv looked decent

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Bendiksen is out injured

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Kerkar is Awfull

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Bendiksen looks really skillful but a bit lightweight.

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Give it a try cant be any worse than whats out there already.(The truth is out there somewhere)..,.
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Kerkar is RANK ROTTEN...looked like bambi on ice when he came on at motherwell

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I like the look of young bendiksen but we need to beef him up a wee bit

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I dont get why kerkar hasnt gotten a chance yet the few times we have seen him he has looked good and can play LM or LB. I also think we should have at least one youth playing in every game coz they all look talented and promising! Shame Hemmings got injured he looked like he was ready to break threw this season!

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01 Sep 2011 14:28:00
Glad we didn't get tshabalala as if he thinks 6k is peanuts he can stuff it.

Plus he's useless and wylde is on less wages.

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He would have yet another over payed over rated foreigner just looking for an easy pass to the EPL we are better off without him coz he would have probly been worse than wylde but still kept him out the squad.

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I think he is better than Wylde, all he has is pace I have more skill I think.

GovanFR

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6k is peanuts to most clubs but to us at the moment it is a fortune

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01 Sep 2011 14:24:10
iv found myself saying we should go for mcfaden coz we clearly need a striker or someone who can play just off and get a few goals he's a free agent so we could still sign him. Is this coz we didn't spend on anythin better and now we'r scraping the bottom of the barrel or would he actually be a good signing who could do a job? What does everyone think?

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James McFadden is undoubtably talented only problem with him is he is unplayable in squad and thats pretty much why even though hes probly 1 of scotland best players he finds himself out of the the national side too often he doesnt do enough in games although id snap him up if his wages were low enough and use him as an impact player much like novo coz he cant be any worse than ortiz although i think Diouf should be the man in to fill the Rm role

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He is always injured, leave him alone

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WTF is ally and the guys thinking get in the Diouf FFS if he was in the team that played maribor he would half burst the net with some o the chances

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McFadden is injury prone mate but a would take a risk with him as wee all now keep him fit he will score goals but insteady having Ortiz in the right a would put McFadden there as wee know he can swing a ball in Ortiz just hasn't got the pace

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01 Sep 2011 14:08:54
Last nights transfer window was annoying is this what Alistair Johnson was warning us about when he said watch Craig Whyte carefully

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01 Sep 2011 13:38:27
I think Rangers should bring in Diouf and Mcfadden, I no alot of folk dont agree with Diouf coming back but he is the sort of player who gets the fans pumped up and i think he would be decent coming off the bench, when you look at our bench there is NO-ONE who can make an impact! You get alot of fans claiming Ally doesnt have a clue, he doesn't know how to make a sub. The reason he doesnt make the sub is because there is no-one on the bench better than what we have on the pitch!

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Theyre not great but we need attackers so bad I'd take them for 1year and see how they do.

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Id love to see mcfadden at gers

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Diouf is more concerned about his ego but in fairness he does run forward and passes forward. Whereas Edu, Ortiz and co pass back and stall play.

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So, if they're better than what we have on the pitch, why are they on the bench?

Diouf's wages will still be high - even if he takes a pay cut - we just got rid of a highly paid forward that we could have sit on the bench.

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Read what the guy said again mate, you're not making sense. good point with regard to beattie.

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Faddy n diouf not bad wid like to c diouf back just fur the sake of winding up scott brown

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01 Sep 2011 13:36:28
Can we still buy loanees in the loan Market?

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In general, no. I believe that you can get special dispensation from FIFA however if all your GK's are injured - basically because it's a more specialised position than the outfield players.

It's only out of contract or released players that can sign now. The reason being because if they weren't allowed to sign, you would then be purposely denying someone the right and opportunity to work and earn a living.

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You cant buy them but can loan them

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Does that mean we can take some prem players when thay name thare 25 man squad

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No it doesnt, you can now only sign unattached players OR take emergency loans from clubs in the same association.

And these emergency loans are for 93 days.

So we could loan a player from any club in scotland for 3 months basically

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01 Sep 2011 13:33:58
Why does everyone blame ally it's not his fault.
Whyte has told him what he can an what he can't do.

So all the rangers people out there
Have faith we still have the squad to beat the celtic and it will be 4 in a row Follow Follow

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7new players in wages agent fees and payment to selling club adds up to a fair expenditure increased contracts and wages mcgregor Davis Whittaker w hyte has also inherited fair amount of debts from previous owner and board give the guy time to turn things around nobody other than the fact we love the club makes us buy season tickets let's keep being true rangers fans and behave like a family who are tolerant about the difficult times

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If that is the case with Mr Whyte why not divulge some information to appease us fans instead of ignoring us as if we dont exist. We dont have to know every detail but at least let us know enough to understand were our club stands financially. WOULD HELP...

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Hope we do win the title again but if either Lafferty or Jelavic get injured we only really have Healy who in his day was good but has lost confidence now/any sensible person can see that this is the one area of the park where we are short of cover Mr Whyte.

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01 Sep 2011 13:21:35
I see el hadji diouf is a ree agent I think we had better sign him and get some quality
into the club hes talented and experienced
and can play in anumber of positions
I dont know about his wages but if you think
whittaker is worth what you pay him
then dioufs there if you can get him
he might be the difference between
ally mcoist rangers manager and ex-rangers manager c,mon bears you know its right help ,make this happen ! I bet if you take every deal thats been done in comparison to each better deal we have,nt done that has,nt happened you,ll see the done deals
wages are much less expensive than the deals that were not completed.

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As much as i like him and as much as i rate him. i dont think he would take a wage cut mate

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If we are talking about players taking wage cuts, id much rather see mcfadden at ibrox than diouf

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Diouf talented ? he's useless and someone the club shouldnt consider going for. we were never out of trouble with him in our ranks.

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Difference in my view is mcfadden is injury prone diouf doesnt seem to get injured much and diouf is more versatile.

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Get him in, he makes Celtic play!

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01 Sep 2011 13:20:07
the bears to use beattie wages to give diouf a 1-year deal

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Dont talk rubbish, Ally has already stated that he WILL NOT be bringing Diouf back to Ibrox

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Beatties wages went with beattie

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They didn't pay Beattie in full they met half way so there is some wages available.

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Would rather give them to Mcfadden than that waste of space diouf

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01 Sep 2011 13:19:25
Daily Record: Mccoist happy with Rangers signings.

Yes, this is true we have enough to retain the title, even though Whyte spent a ridiculousy low amount of money, It's not like Celtic or Hearts have spent loads of money or bought anything special. We can win the title this year.

However, when it comes to Europe, that is when the money needs to be spent. Frankly, I dont think Whyte has the money he promised, so if we can do the domestic treble or double and rake in a bit of money, we need to spend next Summer if we are realistic about getting back into Europe - and this is where I am worried as I don't think Whyte will do so if this Summer is anything to go by.

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I think that Whyte would have thought we would have enough quality to get past Malmo and we should have had!

If we had got into the CL then I think he would have released more funds.

But as we were put out of both tournaments there is a hole in the balance sheet.

He may have only spend around 1M on transfer fees when you take into account what we made, but you also have to consider agent fees, signing on fees and wages. Especially for the bumper deals offered to McGregor, Davis and Whittaker

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You stupid we have enough to retain the title no we dont we havnt got any 1 decent brought in celtic were buying like crazy got a new striker and everything so if anything we will be very lucky to win it this year cause celtic of got a stronger team lol we will be luck to finish 3rd

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Celtic were buyin like crazy ur the only thing thts crazy shut up n back to the runners up page. If we had got in to europe then more would have been spent. We have a good enough squads to win our league and then next summer the money will start to be spent when the HMRC case is dealt with.

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Whyte has spent nothing mccoist got the money from bougys sale and adams sell on

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Celtic's strongest 11 was stronger than our strongest 11 even with our new signings and that's before Wanyama and Bangura. And our players atm apart from Naismith have as much heart as a keyboard.

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Dont believe for one minute that Ally is happy with his Squad it is just a case of having to say that as his employer will be listening/any check of the Squad will let even a five your old that the one area where we are really short is out and out strikers/and injury to either Laff or Jelly and we will struggle and at the very least we should have brought in another out and out stiker even if it was only back up.

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We might be okay with defence and mid field in terms of last years players plus new signings and of course the likes of Perry and McMillan are like a breath of fresh air,and with the likes of Ness providing he can overcome his injuries things look bad till the forward area,and it appears that we cannot produce decent forwards,so why oh why did we not get a least one in??

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01 Sep 2011 12:56:44
Sticking with the Sun, who claim Liverpool failed with a late attempt to land Rangers striker Nikica Jelavic after the SPL champions turned down a £9 million bid from an unnamed club on deadline day

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01 Sep 2011 12:54:12
Very worrying bears, Rangers' offer for Tshabalala's signature was insulting, what the Scottish champions proposed to pay the player for his services was derisory, Why do we even bother with these disgusting offers

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Because it was probably double what he is being paid right now in South Africa?

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If the offer to his club was so insulting, Rangers would have NO contact with the player or his agent regarding wages.
A club has to accept an offer before the player can talk to a club about wages.

So either the offer was accepted (meaning it wasn't that bad), or the agent is talking out his arse.

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01 Sep 2011 12:44:55
Does any1 agree with me tht whyte should of brought in more experience on deadline day? Wat abt the boy odonkor we had on trial torsten frings james mcfadden would all be good signings..we need somebody up top with jela or hes gonae get wasted wouldnt use agree fellow bears?

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We had a good look at Odonkor on trial - obviously they saw something they didn't like. Frings has just started playing in the MLS with Toronto FC - doubt he'd move again so soon. Plus, a lot of people don't really appreciate the last midfielder we signed from TFC. McFadden, maybe. Personally not a big fan but not a lot else out there, seems to be a little bit injury prone.

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01 Sep 2011 12:43:07
'We're in great shape' our first attempted signing of the Summer was Tomer Hemed, later we tried for Goodwillie and Kenny Miller. The window has now shut and we didn't sign a striker, so if we are in great shape why did we try to?

GovanFR

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Not only didn't we sign a striker, we just got rid of one.

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01 Sep 2011 12:32:18
Just wondering, I know that free agents can be signed up at any time, but surely they have to be mentioned in a clubs 25 man squad to be eligible to play matches, in which case they have to be registered by 5pm today?

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5pm tomorrow is deadline

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Is that not the new rule for the english premiership?

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Spl do not have a squad ruling

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If the player is a free agent then he can be brought in at anytime.

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01 Sep 2011 12:25:53
My observation is that the Jelevic bid was a complete smokescreen. Anybody in this current climate that gets more than double what they paid for a player who has only been with the club less that 2 years would bite the hand off. We were never going to sign anybody on deadline day and thus the illusion created by keeping Jelevic appeases the fans and creates the feeling that we have actually made a signing. We have spent pennies and the players who have come in are worse than what we let go. Disgruntled Bear!

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I dont think you can criticise any players we have brought in. appart from ortiz

and all you fellow bears seem to forget that rangers have got alot of players missing from there squad through injury and were still waiting for the likes of mckay and bartley to start playing again.

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We still have 7 players settling into the squad, with at least 4 or 5 going straight into the 1st 11. Give them time, they'll come good. We are stronger than last year without a doubt. Just have a lot of injuries right now which doesnt help, but we're still top, not leaking goals and creating chances.

Yes, we have missed out on better rated players and europe, but this squad will grow through the season and if we can add where needed in jan or next summer we will be in good shape. This squad are more than capable of winning 4iar, and you should be backing them.

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01 Sep 2011 11:53:03
Kyle Hutton and John Fleck's Sheffield United move falls through stv.tv 11:34

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I feel it would be good for the younger gers to get some exp before playing for the champions. good for them

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I bet the blades dont know what they,re missing not much to be honest...

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Good get hutton playing and get fleck and edu hidden away in a darkened cupboard.

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Is this true? as Hutton should have been kept Ness is good but injury prone so hope Hutton stays

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01 Sep 2011 11:23:19
If Crouch went for 12 million, then Id be wanting at least 15 million for Jelavic.

Thoughts?

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Crouch is a proven goalscorer in the EPL, Jelavic is only proven in the SPL,plus Crouch is proven at international level,you do the math.

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Too right mate, crouch is an ok player but overated,as is a lot of the england team! jela offers a lot more.

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Peter crouch has scored 80 odd goals in the epl in 10 years hes hardly a goal getter James Beattie scored more than him in less time so that shows you. His value is inflated purely because he is an england international and sadly for as long as the daft money is in the EPL poor players will always be over valued.

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In response to the first reply, Jelavic is a proven goalscorer in SPL, not forgetting he was injured half the time.

Jelavic has scored 2 goals in 12 appearances for Croatia and is one of their first choice strikers. (Croatia ranked 10th in the world I might add).

As for the Premiership-scored against Chelsea in a friendly-and they have one of the best defences in the Premiership don't they?

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I heard something like Ally would only agree to sell him if 40million was offerd lol

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Where are we getting this nonsense from that Jelavic is some sort of world class striker.

9m would have been the best bit of business since hutton or boumsong. He has flattered to decieve this season, unfit, slow, poor in the air and has a left foot I'm not even sure is worth standing on.

And the fact rangers are using him staying as some sort deadline day success. Rather say we signed no one, they are giving it oh we showed our ambition knocking back 9m.

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At a time When andy carroll goes to liverpool for £35m. I would also expect at least 15m for jelavic!

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People also need to stop comparing things to andy carrolls price what people need to remember is liverpool pretty much looked at the signing of carroll as part of a swap deal!

Out:
Torres - 50M
Babel - 7M

In - Carroll 35m
in - Saurez - 25m

57M IN 60M out

Net Spend 3m, not a bad deal is you ask me!!

So stop using this carroll deal as the bar

And like I posted above Jelavic is a doo

Copey Loyal

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15 million get a grip

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Think you,ve lost the plot

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Crouch would have a field day in the SPL he is not over rated, he is just rated from the EPL and Jelavic is rated from the SPL. Crouch would not be rated 15M if he was playing for Rangers. Jellyfish is good but 15million is laughable. 9M sounds about right to be honest.

Moan the Gers
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Aye right. I f we double our money it will be fantastic business.

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To the guy who responded to the 1st post,you said Jelavic 12 games 2 goals for country,Crouch 22 goals 40 games for country,another thing he scored against one of the best defences in EPL ie Chelsea,so that makes Shane Long of West Brom worth £15m and Grant Holt of Norwich City as well,have you seen Jelavic record for Rapid Vienna in Austrian league 70 games 25 goals,and the EPL is a lot better league than the Austrian,one final thing are England not a lot higher in the FIFA rankings than Croatia.

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01 Sep 2011 11:17:29
Why didn't Ally sign Torsten Frings when he offered himself to Rangers ?!

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Why would we sign him, he is a hasbeen

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Because the the Torsten Frings rumour was a load of pish mate ....we will not be buying players of that quality for a long time to come.

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I think his wages would be a bit of a set back mate

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Thats what we usually sign has beens and sometimes never will be's

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^ idiot. frings would run amok in the spl, and if we had him before the qualifiers we would probably be in europe, where frings is no stranger and would more than hold his own against big clubs. would rather an oldish class act than a young run-of-the-mill spl midfielder which seems to be the level of our targets nowadays

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Get a grip we were more than 1 player short of staying in europe. apart from mcshagger no1 turned up for the european games

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01 Sep 2011 10:47:08
Morning all, i'm ready to get slated, who believes that with the current international break we could be doing deals for released/out of contract players that we could still get in before our next league match, or am i just hoping.

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I dont no mate could be a possibillity i supose

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01 Sep 2011 10:05:44
cant believe we have put players out on loan the squads small enough

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They are only on loan until January when they come back they will be properly match fit, that wouldn't happen if they stayed put.

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The loans were until the end of the season

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This is what happens when a manager is under the owners thumb, craig whyte is only in for the short haul and sadly if this is also a supporter then I can only say you,ll see whats happened so far it will show by the end of the season if he has the will to be more than a profitear.

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01 Sep 2011 10:03:52
I think there will be players released by epl teams maybe we can bring in on short term contracts if not we need to unite .Celtic will be in Europa cup getting humped and tired we will have fresh players we are top of the league playing badly wait till new players bed in and injury list reduces .this is a year of transition things will get better as big margin said keep believing

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I've never been one for a half empty glass, always half full, but this has to be an all time low for us. Cant see a light at the end of the tunnel, unless there is huge pot of gold waiting for us !!
I live in hope.
Forever blue.

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01 Sep 2011 09:07:53
So Craig Whyte stated that he would be judged
at the end of the transfer window, would any1
like to start judging him

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Id like to be judge duy and exicutioner on this one if i could

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Bought 7 players!! More than we usually do! stop moaning now, its up to Ally and the players!

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I find him guilty of giving us gers fans the run around I now believe the reason it took so long for the take over was he was learning his spine trade from SDM!

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Judge him on the 9 mil he knocked back 4 jely ffs

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Celtic signed 6 and they had bought a full team last season,they loaned out the deadwood to reduce the wage bill,plus they spent £3m on 2 players with sell on value,thats how to do business,you can tell who has the billionaires on the board its getting run like a business,Whyte hasnt got a clue.

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He's conned us all.maybe alister johnson was right

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He's brought in 7 players mate and saved rangers from going bust so no i wont judge him

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I,ll say at the end of the season but if early pointers are accurate this wont be a good season.

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He cleared 30 million debt! we don't need expensive signings with high wages this year no europe! next summer we will add the flair! We have enough to win 4 iar

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Maybe if he made a few expensive signings we would have Europe

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CHARLATAN !!!!! conman, LIAR, silent assassin, GLASGOW RANGERS GRIM REAPER.............. list is endless m8

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He didnae clear 30million debt, it wis 19million. This was because of the miracles walter and ally pulled off since taking over. They also worked without contracts. Whyte is come in and lied to every single one of us about the money he was going to spend. It also said somewhere that rangers are still in debt. Get behind ally lads it aint his fault, and hes only a yes man because he wants the job so much. We should be questioning whyte and not booing ally or the team.

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Yeah, I'll judge him now I've got over the disappointment of not getting anyone in yesterday.

The guy has cleared the debt, allowed McCoist to bring in 7 new players, signed up our best players on long term contracts and has now stated that if anyone wants Jelavic then we want more than £9m for him (Smokescreen or not).

So why doesn't everyone get off his back give him time to settle into his job, allow him to get the finances sorted and wait and see what happens with the tax case.

Everyone seems to want to have a go at him because we didn't go out in the last 24hrs of the transfer window and buy a player. Don't forget we have won the league the past 3 years with our hands tied behind our back so 7 new players added seems quite positive to me!

So stop moaning and support the club.

The Pilot!

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01 Sep 2011 08:21:00
saw this as part of the jelavic story on the bbc website
'However, despite heavy debts, Rangers held on to Jelavic on a quiet transfer deadline day for the Scottish champions.'

wtf i thought whyte had cleared our debt?

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Ermmm How dumb are you lot..., he transfered the debt so he paid nothing and rangers fc still owe the original debt. I blame the media for spinning gullable rangers fans lies wich of course they always believe! .... Remember the 15 million war chest lol lol lol

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Lol so did i, wtf is going on

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I think you'll find that the debt has not been cleared but merely transferred from Lloyds to Craig Whytes company (formally Wavetower). So Rangers don't owe money to the bank, they owe Craig Whytes company

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Whyte merely gave lloyds the cash but moved the debt to one of his own holding companies. So RFC owes Whyte the same debt that they had with Lloyds

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Which i think would be far better than having to pay the bank money. they had us in a head lock REMEMBER!

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If he has not paid off the debt there are a couple of possible reasons why not: he has left himself as a creditor incase we do get hit with a big tax bill, thus pushing us into insolvency, then he would put us into administration, and if the rules are the same as epl with regards to insolvency then he would be infront of hmrc in the queue for money, meaning he would get all his money back before hmrc (basically the same idea as former directors at pompey, dundee, leeds etc) get any. this would mean that any fine we do get won't get paid (or something like 6p in the pound). true it would be handing celtic a 10 point lead in the title race (points deduction for going into administration), but one season without the title and being completely debt free is better than owing craig whyte 25m and hmrc 20/30m! to be honest i hope this is the case, otherwise we are still in debt because he has no money, and we are possibly going to get hit with a 20/30m tax bill with no way of paying for it! but what do we know, he may have paid it all off, we'll find out when the interim/annual accounts are published!

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01 Sep 2011 08:00:24
forgive my ignorance here Bears, but is there still a possibility that clubs can sign players who are out of contract ?released, free agents ( all one in the same ) just a curious Bear, hoping for a free gem........... 4 in a row

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I believe if a players is free of contract there is no deadline.

GDog

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Can u still not see it, there is NO money.

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Yes, whenever they want

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Yes, players who do not have a club can be signed at anytime.

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The deadline is friday for premier league clubs to submit their squad lists.

For players that dont make it, there is a strong possibility they will asked to be released or to go out on loan, in which case we could snap a couple up.

Still some decent frees out there i.e james mcfadden, john carew? {Ed001's Note - Friday? It was supposed to be today, I do wish they wouldn't change things, it makes it such hard work trying to keep track when you have every date being moved on a whim.}

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THER FRE AGENTS 4 A REASON MOST OF THEM R MINCE

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01 Sep 2011 00:11:47
RANGERS have done some last minute business in the transfer window with James Beattie leaving Ibrox and both John Fleck and Kyle Hutton going on loan.

With the deadline fast apporaching it has been revealed that Fleck and Hutton are heading to Sheffield United on season long deals.

And at the same time a deal has been agreed with Beattie which terminates his contract and makes him a free agent.

Beattie was signed at the beginning of last season by Walter Smith and made a small contribution early on but then suffered injury and was loaned to Blackpool.

It was clear he had no future at the club under Ally McCoist and his contract was ended by mutual agreement.

McCoist has also decided it is better for youngsters Fleck and Hutton to get regular first team football.

They are now heading to Yorkshire where they will play for Danny Wilson's side in League One.

And they could be involved this weekend when the joint league leaders face Bury at home.

Earlier in the day Andy Little agreed to join League 2 Port Vale on loan until January.

Official Website

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Well done you can copy and paste

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A duno how he can let players like hutton n fleck leev if wer short as it is abso joke n mccoists to blame aswel!

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Good bit of business... Getting rid of the players that are not contributing or getting the chance. Last chance for Fleck as he has been around for a while and done jack... Good luck to Hutton and Little I hope they get a lot out of this. Beattie should give it up. 1 mill we payed for him, he should have to give us that back.

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Fleck and Hutton are not away apparently.....Gers did not get paperwork done in time.

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Still at rangers didnt get signed on time

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01 Sep 2011 00:05:20
who else is out there for free transfer because 2 players wages were took of our hands with the loan,s so ally will have somthing alot of players get released at 12 to night so watch and see only thing that was said was no more to be done tonight might happen

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Aw mate let it go, just gettin sad now. We're not signing anybody, deal with it and move on.

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Ur clutching at straws my friend. rangers business or lack of it has ended in total disappointment for us supporters

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Rangers are a joke now?

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Rangers will win the league , no pressure will be put on us , lif you follow your team back them dnt bad mouth them if you dnt follow them , watp

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31 Aug 2011 23:57:51
i for one dont believe there was a 9 million pound bid for jelavic i think it is a bit of spin to take the heat off the fact that we have only spent 1.5 million in this window

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Spot on m8 said exact same 2 my son. The story probably came from inside ibrox 2 deflect the negligence from within.

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1.5? think again.
1.5-wallace
800k ortiz
400k bedoya
300k makey
800k goian
300k bocanegra
so try 3.6 +

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Rangers have rejected a late £9m offer for striker Nikica Jelavic after receiving a call from an agent who refused to say what club he was representing. it could have been anyone. Taken from BBC SPORTS FOOTBALL

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Boughera 1.7m adam 800k sell on fee . take that off ure 3.6m total 1.1m.

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Fans shafted AGAIN.

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Even still. No one ever thinks about the wages. That's 6 extra players on pay roll.

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Prob came from whyte tryin 2 make himself look good

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Propaganda at it's best, PR department putting a positive spin on a dismal transfer window.

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Yes 1.5 million, when you take off the bougherra money and adam. I am gutted we never bought at least another striker. This 9mil jelevic bid stinks of s**t. An agent called and made the bid and refused to name the club, thats because there was no bid. Do they think we are daft

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Yes what happened to gordon smith saying we have bids in for 6 players totaling £7.5 million just another yes man who won't be there next year. if this is ally getting 100% backing god help him if they start to doubt him

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And we say Celtic fans are paranoid? FFS guys, grow up.

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To the guy up above tht sed we spent 3.6, wot bout the bougherra and Adam money. N even if u didn't count tht, u think spending 3.6 million is a lot. At one point we had bids in for verhoek, juhasz, cuellar n goodwillie totalling more than 9 million. even last year wen the bank was runnin the show we spent 4 million on jelavic an 1.5 million in Beattie (wot a waste). Transfer window has been a joke from start to finish

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31 Aug 2011 23:55:33
Beattie Released , El Hadji Diouf IN ? Norrieboy

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Personally i would have diouff back, showed signs of a real player if he can only stay focused on the football. which lets be honest he won't, too much of a wind up merchant to have a real impact in footballing terms

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THE REASON THAT WHYTE NEVER GAME MCCOIST THE MONEY IS THAT HE WANTS HIM OUT AND RAY WILKINS IN TO REPLACE HIM

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31 Aug 2011 23:54:44
Best news of the night for Rangers, James Beattie has been released!! Is this to free up some wages for Diouf??

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Why swap one dud for another. Don't make sense.

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People must be blind if they can't see that diouf? is a class player his control and passing are 1st class

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Diouf would be a class signing. Don't think he's quite first class but 100 x better than beattie and would give us some depth and experience. Muzz

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Diouf's passing and control 1st class?? Your having a laugh? Done nothing last season except sell newspapers and warm the bench!! On a par with Beattie both over rated and past it!

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Diouf must have been on 60k a week at b/burn dont think he will come for less than half that beattie was on 20k we would need to pay him about half of that to get rid so we would hae to find about 1m for the deal doubt it

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31 Aug 2011 23:54:29
Beattie contract cancelled, thank god, frees up wages

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Aye but do you think he just walks away with nothing? Big pay-off for him to bugger off. The club are rooked!

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Frees up wages for wot exactly?

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Wages for whyte to keep for himself

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31 Aug 2011 23:52:43
James Beattie has been released

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31 Aug 2011 23:47:01
james beattie has left ibrox - rangers website

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31 Aug 2011 23:44:15
James Beattie released by mutual consent- Source: Daily Record

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31 Aug 2011 23:43:54
heard zander diamond going to gers, james beattie leaves, mutual consent

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Zander diamond is celtic daft, wont happen

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Zander diamond is absolutely rubbish , wont happen in a million years

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31 Aug 2011 23:41:15
rhys murphy has staed on his twitter account that he is not joining rangers earlier today.

fleck and hutton away on loan to sheffield utd.

source stv

ryanrfc

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31 Aug 2011 23:39:53
Heard from good pal who works around ibrox
Rangers were never going to sign any of the 2 to 3 million pound players which is why they put I'n derisory bids for them to appease the fans,
Craig whyte is a sham master and just wants to make a buck off the rangers name shame on you whyte for not wanting to take our team forward I wonder if you will make an appearance at the next home game to look at all the fans you have ripped off

Stevie bluenose
Watp

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Never believed whyte from the start. He is a 'Del Boy' character. Agree with the signing policy, it was a total charade. He had no intention of paying all that cash out on players. Ally is the one who will suffer, he is left to take the flak when things go wrong on the field.

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Told yeez whyte was a fake!!!!!!!!

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