Rangers Rumours Archive July 20 2012

20 Jul 2012 20:53:36
Right troops got our license transfer ban lifted for the summer so can we now please have some rumours!! I think we should go for Deek Carcary, Stevie Murray and Craig Dargo a mix of youth and expiriance who are used to playing in sfl. Thoughts?

Well the chairman Mr Murray says he thinks sfa statement a bit premature so I wouldnt celebrate just yet

License is still subject to ifs, buts, maybes, etc. so wouldn't get too ahead of ourselves yet bears! Wait until it is final then we can definitely look forward to the future.

I'm sure many players would love the chance to play for rangers,even though in div 3....we still have the pulling power and will pay more than most esp-pee-el teams,ian black would be a fantastic signing and captain of rangers in my opinion and this is a chance for these guys to be legends,3 years time we will be back no thanks to the charlatans who couldnt wait to jump ship just when we needed them most
ian

There you go again with the "We can pay more than the SPL teams"!

Pay them with what exactly? You have just came out of administration/liquidation, and you have to start to slowly or else you will find yourself in financial trouble again.

I'm sure many players would love the chance to play for rangers,even though in div 3....we still have the pulling power and will pay more than most esp-pee-el teams,

And that's the main reason Newco will end up like Rangers. Can you not grasp Newco will survive only by living with in their means. Less income,less tv money,no euro money,lower sponsorship and corporate money = less income. Stadium and Murray Park still need to be maintained. And no agreement with SFA yet re:Licence/sanctions. Until official confirmation nothing has changed

I'd go for guys like Rory mcalistair & willie mclaren, guys would score for fun in div 3 and would cost the world.

Seems a wee bit odd to involve the guilty in what and when the sentence should apply!

For the guy who says willie mclaren, I would never have him near Ibrox, he's nothing but bad news we don't need people like him at our club

Rangers have no money, no real prospect of making serious money for years, so the answer is simple, bring through the young players this is an opportunity for the whole of scottish football to stop bringing in 3rd rate pros on stupid wages and start bringing through the youngsters! look at what falkirk have started to do if you are good enough you are old enough, we are still producing the players in this country they just have not been getting the chance, well now is the time to give them the chance!! {Ed039's Note - Absoloutley, youth is the way forward)

Don't know who this mc laren is or plays for,he must be bad if you would sign black but not him.
Tam {Ed039's Note - If I am thinking about the right guy he used to play for Airdrie)

20 Jul 2012 19:58:11
Robbie Neilson & Ian Black first two in the door at Ibrox

Neilson, sandaza, black, novo, beattie. them would do us i think. plus a few youngsters to go along with what we've already got.

Players aren't going to sign for us from SPL clubs, we can only offer a fraction of the wages that the likes on novo could get, and Beattie in the championship, league 1 or the SPL. We need to be more realistic guys.

Anyone was seen Michael mols in the masters lately? Surely could still do a job in D3. Also, bringing in legends would help to sell season tickets

Mate I would do anything to see mols in a gers shirt again

Mols was quality but its 90 minutes on a not so great pitch every other week as well as ibrox i dont think so and then he will get lumped to
stg

Novo has signed a two yr deal wth a Spanish side !

20 Jul 2012 19:09:58
Don't know if anyone has posted this, kane Hemmings is out for 6 months.

Aye, it's a blow for the wee man. Could still be massive for us after Christmas though.

Keep yer chin up Kane.

20 Jul 2012 19:02:53
That's it, embargo from 1sept this year for a whole year, meaning we can buy players this transfer window, but not for the jan or following summer, meaning we must buy div 2 capable players now..... So what's the true value of money green has hidden to spend?

But after 31 aug 2013 can you not sign free agents with no clubs.

Nothing been signed yet if anything we have learned trust no-one

Dont think its just about the money It's about being able to sell div 3 to some players Wont be easy

We signed Aluko last November so yes you can sign out of contract payers after the deadline. How do people not know this?

Does anybody else think the ban would have suit us better starting now and us being able to shop next season. We don't have a big squad but I was looking forward to seeing our young guys getting a chance and I still think we have the quality to win the 3rd.

Any player who thinks he is half decent and signs for any division three club is clearly deluded!

20 Jul 2012 18:44:09
i recieved this email today from the megastore
£10 OFF New 2012/13 Home Shirts Plus FREE Delivery


Look and feel like a pro this season with £10 OFF the official 2012/13 Rangers Home Shirt. Traditionally tailored by Umbro, this official kit will be worn by Super Ally's boys throughout the 2012/13 campaign.

Not only that, but the Official Rangers Online Megastore is offering FREE DELIVERY on all standard UK delivery orders! Available for a limited time only, this is your chance to purchase the brand new Rangers Home Kit and Training Range 2012/13 and save £3.99 with every order!

Shop now www.RangersMegastore.com

JG

They were buy one get one free at xmas!!

What does this tell us bears?!

I don't think we 'll be wearing that kit shortly!

Just on the rangers mega store to buy a new shirt and there out of stock.
How we meant to sell the shirts if they not there to sell??:(

WOW saving £3.99!!! That's amazing, what a bargain.At last the club is starting to move forward and get somewhere.There must be a MAJOR investor in our new club if we can offer free post and packaging.

The OP stated that there is £10 off AND free p&p. That's £13.99 by my maths. Also the home top IS in stock as I've just bought one, trying to show support for my club, instead of coming on here, trying to be sarcastic and making themselves sound like t**ts. We don't need people like you.

Aye something strange going on with the kit deal /sponsers etc as all the new truing gear is on SALE already, usually xmas before this happens...thoughts?

20 Jul 2012 18:30:06
The Scottish FA can tonight clarify the position surrounding the outstanding Appellate Tribunal related to Rangers FC Oldco.

It has been agreed with Sevco Scotland Ltd that the registration embargo will be accepted as a primary condition of a transfer of membership.

It is necessary to complete the judicial process following the determination by Lord Glennie in the Court of Session that required the Independent Appellate Body to revisit available sanctions relating to Oldco, having been found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.

The Scottish FA indicated to Sevco Scotland Ltd that they had to accept responsibility for any sanctions arising out of this case as a condition of transfer of membership.

Rather than convening the Appellate Tribunal to determine from the sanctions available to it, the company directors of Sevco Scotland Ltd have chosen to accept the 12-month registration embargo. This embargo will begin on 1st September 2012 and end on 31st August 2013.

Sevco Scotland Ltd have also undertaken to accept all other outstanding conditions relating to Oldco’s charges of bringing the game into disrepute. The conditional offer of transfer will now be submitted to the Appellate Tribunal for its consideration. This will form part of the approval process for the transfer of membership which, once approved, will enable Rangers FC to take a considerable step towards participating in Irn Bru Division Three.

In addition to the above, the Scottish FA has also received the necessary financial information requested and this is being considered as part of the application process.

Subject to the completion of all legal documentation, we anticipate transfer of membership next week.


The imposition of conditions relating to transfer of membership was made on the basis that the Scottish FA, as the governing body, has an obligation to protect the integrity of the national game and to ensure that all member clubs operate within the Articles of Association.

"necessary financial documention"

3 years worth of accounts?!?

I think not, Spartans appear to have a strong case.

Now bearsies ... what do you do ?? back green or not ... you need whats left of this window to get a squad together you cant sign in January nor can you sign next summer so you need to get a team together thats good enough for 3rd and 2dn now ... so wheres your cash ?

So let me get this straight.

In theory rangers could go through the leagues n make it back to the SPL in 3 years. During this time no sanctions have been handed out for the wrong doings of the previous regime. but just when we get back to the spl n on our feet again the SFA can finally impose sanctions n fines on us that could put us back to square 1 again??
J1985

Regan won in the end there was only gning to be one winner and he made sure it was going to be him

Absolutely disgraceful !!What isn't clear is the position regarding settling all debts to other football clubs. And more importantly, what is the time scale for completing transactions.The SFA have acted shamefully in postponing the enforcement of the transfer embargo. Surely Uefa must now step in and close down this odious phoenix of a club.

For those that disagree take a look on the SFA website, the OP has clearly cut and pasted it from there.

The important part for me is the timing of the ban - Sept 01 2012 until 31st Aug 2013. This implies (if Green actually has the cash to fund it which still remains to be seen) that we can buy players (most likely free agents which would obviously cost less if finances are problematic and no "up front" transfer fees would be involved) prior to its enforcement and there is no limit to the numbers (other than SFL guidelines) as previously implied on here. This should at least allow us to get some semblance of a 'full' squad together ahead of the cup game if there are indeed players waiting to sign up (Black, etc). I think ideally we probably need another eight players to give us an adequate squad in terms of depth to cover injuries etc so it should be a pretty busy month in terms of 'rumours' finally, lol.

I think it is both a fair compromise (common sense being applied - who would have thought it?) and some good news at last to be honest (no expulsion - although that may still resurface further down the road if dual contracts are proven for example), as we will first of all be confirmed in the league and are receiving one and a bit months grace to bulk up the squad. The down side for me (if he does have the cash) would be, if we gain instant promotion which isn't a given, tackling Div2 with the exact same squad assuming we can retain all of them for next season. That is an argument for next season though and I am just happy that it finally looks like I can watch my team play football this season which I was seriously beginning to doubt as the weeks have passed. Despite not being signed off yet (as no doubt the Celtic fans will remind us repeatedly until it is official next week) the "subject to completion..." line is providing me with a hint of optimism that there will be no more surprises in store and we can finally return to talking about football. A tiny chink of light at the end of the tunnel at last.

Brian RFC

20 Jul 2012 14:23:44
Brechin v The Rangers in Ramsdens Cup will now be Sun 29th July at 3:05pm.

20 Jul 2012 13:19:44
This SFA license transfer, ok I understand that we need 3 years accounts and oldco didn't do any in march 2011 nor march 2012, but SFA say we've been punished for no accounts (£160k and one year transfer ban)...but we haven't accepted either punishment so how do we get a license?

Punishments for not producing accounts in the past isn't a reason to forego a present regulation in the present requiring 3 years accounts.
This is the sfa breaking rules again to benefit Rangers.
A consequence of not producing 3 years accounts is that u cannot get an SFA license.

SFA have agreed to accept the 2010 accounts on the basis RFC have been fined for no 2011 accounts already. That fine sits with Oldco, so the principal is that if Newco want to transfer membership from Oldco using the 2010 accounts they have to take the penaltly. Wouldn't think Green will be disputing this sanction. It's the 12 mth embargo that appears to be the sticking point. (football creditors is agreed by Green as a sanction but it's getting agreement from all the football creditors on time to get the licence through that's the issue)

No a change of rules, they are asking to transfer membership which is in the rules. If they apply for new membership then under the rules they do not meet the admission criteria under the rules because they do not have accounts.

The newco is trying to take over the membership of the oldco and if they do they don't need accounts however they will need to accept any snactiosn the SFA impose. If they cannot get the old membership they will have to apply like any other team e. g. Spartans, who have 3 years accounts, and would not be able to do so as no accounts. Typically you want the membership without the sanctions. Every possibility there will be no football for you lot this coming season.

Its only three years accounts when applying for a new license, not when transferring a license from the old club to the new.

Business years 2010/11 and 2011/12, two years accounts have not been forthcoming from oldco..... Remember Whyte didn't produce accounts by first April 2011 and none were produced for 1st April 2012, whilst in Admin. oldco has two years accounts missing.
It's got to be suspension.

Rangers I think will except the sanctions as we need the license..... endofstory

A transfer of membership requires the old club you are transferring from to have had 3 years accounts......... Fact..........old club have not had the last 2 sets of accounts.

20 Jul 2012 12:16:38
Do you not think it would be a good idea if Rangers converted one of the parks at Murray park into a five a side football development. Would be a great source of income to the team as us gers fans would utilise this facility regardless where in Glasgow were from. Could also be a great way to possibly canvass some talent that's out there. In theory bringing scouting to our front door step! Thoughts?

I would hope murray park is going to be utilised properly and be providing rangers with a team, the investment put in the other day seems to confirm this, 2 of our funders have an interest in managing young talent, murray park is a world class facility, rangers should be making a packet rearing the next generation of young players.

Excellent idea mate, we the fans own all that we've paid over and over for it. We should be allowed in instead of locked out at the gate.

20 Jul 2012 10:59:53
With the SFL chasing TV deals this is the start of the end of the SPL. The control of power is swinging. The SPL will loose big money on the current deal, it could be that what Sky save on the current deal they offer to the SFL for the Rangers game. If Administration falls on SPL teams they will be applying for the SFL and the SPL will diminish.

I never thought I would be p!ssed off to hear that we could loose Salim Kerkar!! How times have changed.

GDog
RTID

But this road leads to to 16 team divisions, only 2 old firm games a year.

Something rangers have opposed for year and it mean less money....

so is this a not bad news, do rangers fans want an SPL to return on or not ?

Nonsense. BBC Alba already show SFL games and just wanting to add new ones to their package.

Kerkar was a bad buy from McCoist, Ally's duds imploded the club. Out of 4 cups and turned a 15 point lead to 20 point deficit by end of season.
Green cannot afford Kerkars contract he's walked on a free but had years on the contract.

I think what this does mean that tv money coming into Scotland will be better divided out than before.

Spl clubs have been running an unsustainable model for years.

If Spl clubs learn to live with less money for the next few years before income inceases once more with the return of the new Rangers they should be on a better footing. If they dont natural selection will have its way with them.

Sfl clubs on the other hand can make out for a few years and set themselves up for a long time.

All in all this may be the best thing for Scottish football with the grassroots getting a financial boost and the top end developing sustainable models should they survive.

Agree with everything in above post, this will be the best thing thats happened to Scottish football.

Another deluded fan who thinks rangers are going to stroll through divs 3, 2 and 1. be prepared for a VERY tough time in these leagues

20 Jul 2012 10:11:31
Okay. Just been onto ticket office.
They said they're "awaiting confirmation of approval from SFA which they should get sometime today".
Looks like we may find out our destiny sooner rather than later.
Anyone else been told the same?
P.O.B. {Ed052's Note - I got the same aswell mate

That would suggest we've been granted a license jst needs confirmed??

I phoned and the lady on the other end of the phone told me they were waiting on bein granted the licence...

Tam-Sir 1873 heres hoping

Worry, these important issues are normally sorted in the a.m. Before lunchtime.
No news is bad news by mid afternoon.

20 Jul 2012 09:50:44
{Ed052's Note - I phoned up on Monday and they told me to call on Firday, so im going to try at 9am see what they say

Any word yet?{Ed052's Note - Just tried mate told me to phone back at 11am. The women on the phone said they are just waiting on a email coming through. I wonder if there just waiting on confirmation about the licence

Hi Ed. Are you writing posts to yourself? Lol
They just told me the same thing.
Look like D-Day's today.
P.O.B. No mate someone has copied and pasted my reply to another poster haha

Think season tickets will go fast whatever price the away tickets going to be an nightmare unless we go in home end back to the seventies id say

20 Jul 2012 07:59:33
hi ed, rumour this morning is tv companies going to start a bidding war for the rights to show rangers games home and away. all the talk and focus now on div 3, must be hard to take for premier league clubs to see and here, when no one seems to be showing the same level of interest in them. proof again, if it was needed , who really is the biggest and most talked about club in this country !! boyblue {Ed052's Note - The only games that they will show will be away games in the league. They will start bidding after we find out about the licence .

A bidding war...for what...games that will be half empty and people can walk up and pay on the door. No one is going to pay much for 4th tears football. {Ed052's Note - You trying to tell me when Rangers play away in Div 3 we wont full our allocation

The SFL don't want to have a TV deal for just Rangers games, it has to be a package that gives equal income and coverage to D1, D2 and D3. This could be a sticking point because no one will be interested in paying to see the non Rangers games and potential broadcasters won't want the cost of having to broadcast from non Rangers matches.

We will see how many celtic fans fork out 25 - 30 quid for a ticket for away games when the league is over by xmas. Thats when the struggling teams in the spl will suffer big time.

I heard it was just the rangers games that were getting showen and the money was getting split between the three divisons. I don't think there would even be talk of a tv deal for the Sfl if rangers weren't in it. We might just be the saviour of Scottish football. Rtid

@ OP - this is exactly the sort of attitude has led to your demise.

I'm a fan of one of your implied 'envious' SPL clubs. I pro-actively campaigned to make sure you started life in Division 3, because that was fair and proper, given how other clubs like Livingston and Gretna has been dealt with. I campaigned IN THE FULL KNOWLEDGE that there WOULD BE a finance impact on my club. I am more than prepared to watch a lower standard of football, due to the likely drop in our TV revenues, to ensure that the leagues we play in did not become further distorted by the TV cash cow.

You think the fans of all other clubs are against your club. They are not. They are against 'your element' of the Rangers support.

Maybe fans like you should show more contrition, and not be bleating about this kind of financial gain, given the amount of debt your club will likely have written off.

Definately the most talked about club in this country !

In reply to " the fan" who pro - actively campained to make sure we started life in div 3 , because that was fair and proper, given how other clubs like livi and gretna ( wonder if he acted "pro - actively " back then too ?? ) had been dealt with, can i just say, we would have loved to have been "dealt with" in the same manner as the 2 above mentioned clubs, but werent, that is the point !!, you may buy your season tckt and support your club even if it does mean watching a lower standard of football, i admire your princeables, but will your fellow supporters do the same, at the start of the season, on a cold, wet nov / dec night ??, i dont think so !!, " my element " of the rangers support, as you put it, want to be treated in a fair and proper manner, and believe me, i do show "contrition " but after eveything we have been subjected to, lies and indifference, by different sections of society, i feel no guilt in enjoying some good news/ luck or whatever coming our way with regards to my football club, Fact !! boyblue.

Just a pity that the British Broadcasting Corporation won't provide a choice of commentaries so that the Rangers versus Brechin game can be understood by over 99% of the people watching.

BARNEY BEAR

So gers get 1/30 of the SFL tv deal... woppeee ?

is this bigger than the £2 mill for 2nd place in SPL ?

You expect a 'bidding war' for 3rd div football yet all the TV deals to pull out of the SPL...make up your mind !

Gretna was going to div 1 but put into div 3 as they were not sure that they could complete there fixtures so how is that the same as rangers

The bidding "war" as you put it will be because sevco games can be picked up for a song 1million to show all sevco games is a cheap deal for any tv company i million split between 30 clubs will do all the sfl clubs a good turn like i say sevco should be fleeced at every opportunity after what they have done

Its funny how you expect to sell the tv rights for more money than you could flog your whole club

Why are all you thingmy fans bothered about what's happening in the SPL, or what's going to happen in the SPL, it's bugger all to do with you's, your thingmy team are NOT in the SPL, the zombie thingmy team have after 140 years found their true place in football. . . . . at the bottom rung.
Finbar !

Hi rab nif we might be on the bottom rung ,but like snakes and ladders theres a rapid way to the top ,your dice will be shaking like your jelly when we do it ,how will you be able to handle a team with 2 great pieces of history ,back to your kennell for you ,chew on that instead of your bone lol doug t.s.o

Hi Ug Do, funny you should mention snakes, quite appropriate when it comes to your "Thingmy" team, which may I add has no history as yet, as for your other team, they are away, gone, kaput, defunct, dead, an ex football team, they cheated, they thieved, they stole, they shafted the tax payer, they shafted the ordinary man on the street, they shafted hundreds of small business's trying to eke out a livelihood, they even shafted charitable organisations, they are gone now, no more tainted titles, tainted trophies, nothing, no history, they do not exist ! Finbar.

Hi rab nif guod here ,is that right ,well tell me how are we getting fines and points deducted and put in div.3 if the old rangers dont exist ,who have you shafted recently lol , face facts even if we are junior team we,l still be sticking out a mile ,we dont go away easily ,you will never match our history no matter how hard you try ,i dont even believe finbar is your real name either ,the doc couldnt have slapped you when you were born or you might have had some sense in your heid ,see you soon ,spl here we come again catch us if you can lol doug t.s.o

Hope rangers get ian black , Santana , Beattie and dean shiels we would walk through the 3rd 2nd and 1st then get back to dominating the spl

20 Jul 2012 07:45:46
Anyone heard anything about Season Ticket prices?

Is it a case of Green having to wait until the SFA licence has been granted before he can announce anything? The statement on the Rangers website didn't read that way.

I reckon around the £200 mark, but I'm basing this solely on the prices of the other teams in teh division. {Ed052's Note - I phoned up on Monday and they told me to call on Firday, so im going to try at 9am see what they say

I would think that our overheads dictate it will be higher than that - unless we contemplate ditching Murray Park or going part-time, however I think this would hinder our progress

Has to be more than £200 if use want a full time and decent team playing to get them back out this mess, how can u compare to other teams the running costs will still be high at rangers and i am not talking about players wages

100-150 quid for season tickets in the 4th tear. Don't mind paying up to 200 because of the better facilities but paying on the door might be a better bet.

For me there's still too many issues with embargoes and all the rest of it to be resolved. We don't have a decent squad at the moment (and may not get one) to warrant a higher ST price. Overheads are what they are, but surely Green knew this.

Although i work some weekends and havent had a season ticket for about 15 yrs if it around 200 i will buy one in a minute. Im sure everyone that has been paying around 500 can help the club get back to the top.

It has to make sense for this season to pay at the gate? If the backers green has are in it for long haul the will fund the cashflow.
They will get similar turnover, just not all at once, I still dont trut them with my hard earned money.

When you gonna realise you pay your money you watch the match after that its the clubs money and green can do whatever he likes with it ... its not shares your paying for its the right to watch the match as a spectator

19 Jul 2012 22:54:23
Rhys McCabe played for polbeth armatures tonight clearly doing well for himself since leaving rangers

He is from Polbeth & went to the same school as me (West Calder High).

Was playing to keep fit not sure that's the kind of games he wants to be playing in to keep fit though game finished Blackridge Vale of Craig 3 Polbeth 3

I played on the same polbeth team as his dad. we won the Scottish youth cup and Polbeth have won it again more than a few times.

All I want is the football to continue get players in while we can and get on with it , it's funny how division 3 has the spotlight on it cause the spl is worthless without rangers hense why there are no bidding wars going on for the likes of Motherwell and Kilmarnock hope the spl goes bust and Neil Doncaster and his prats regret the ridiculous decisions they've made . Barca bears

20 Jul 2012 00:03:19
Here is an idea to bounce around
Rangers need investment,
fighting fund has money donated by the fans which was to help the club,
take that money and invest in in the club on behalf of all the fans who donated to the fighting fund.
Is that too simple or am i missing something

JG

Good point poster but i think the fund was to help some of the small creditors too the fund could be contnued say a tenner a head every month just an idea

To reply @1
Does any one know exactly how much was donated, how much was paid to small creditors (were they taken off the list) how much is left in the account?
I would be interested to know where my money went

JG