Rangers Rumours Archive January 23 2012

23 Jan 2012 22:54:24
anyone know if rapid vienna are due any % from jelavic deal due to a sell on clause

Believe there is no more to pay, nor any sell on clause.

No we payed it all and it was confirmed by Rapid months ago

Highly likely there will be
dont see it being more than 10% if there is
i.e Charlie Adam had a 10% sell on clause

No Rapid refused to do do a pay in installment deal with Jela, they wanted a sell on Clause but did not get it, Walter smith mentioned at the time, "thats what held the deal up"

Pete

Pete you're full of it. The Jelavic deal was done in installements of £500,000
There is still £1 million to pay and there is a sell on clause.
With the money Rangers make (assuming the West Ham deal goes through) they will have to pay off the balance of the deal immediately to Rapid.

Dont think we will be buyin i think we will just get frees in which to be fair the league we are in may aswell we always know its either 1st or 2nd for us anyway and to be honest if celtic do keep buying there going to end up like us thats them signed some1 else must be about 40 players on there books it they dont get the title there will be mass clear outs there, gazza

Chick young said it was paid in full and that was untrue,thet had us over a barrel at the time we wanted him he wanted to come(he went on strike remember)they were prepared to sit and wait so like most deals a sell on clause is writen into them

There was 2.5m still to be paid when whyte took over...personally i can't see a penny of that being paid since

and if you want to argue this fact, if you were at the last AGM, or have seen the accounts from that AGM, it's there in black and white

as for the sell on fee, there is one, that's the real reason of the hold up. it is believed to be around 25-40%. hence why whyte is trying to inflate his valuation. at the end of the day, if he goes for say 6m, rangers are looking at making something like 2m from the sale

Where have u guys been for the last year? The last payment was made to Rapid in July. FFS some folk talk some s**te

Wer do all these people come up way rangers still owe rapid vienne money or any percentage this in not true an as for the guy that sayed rangers will only get 2millon
rangers wud never agree two that amount of percentage ten percent maybe not 25 0r 40

"Where have u guys been for the last year? The last payment was made to Rapid in July. FFS some folk talk some s**te"

The last installment may have been paid in July but certainly not the full amount outstanding.
If you pulled your head out the sand you might be up to speed on what's been happening.

Like i said, if you had actually looked at the accounts submitted at the last AGM, rangers still owed 2.5m to rapid vienna.

and why wouldn't rangers agree to that percentage of sell on fee? enlighten me please. 25% is actually quite a common sell on fee for players bought over a certain value.

so, for all you thinking you know what you're talking about, i once again bring your attention to the FACT that it's in black in white in the clubs accounts

"Where have u guys been for the last year? The last payment was made to Rapid in July."

So this below link about a late payment from Rangers to Rapid which was due on 31st August is not true then? Pffft.

sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/269942-rapid-receive-late-payment-from-rangers-for-nikica-jelavic/

23 Jan 2012 22:28:10
Hamdi Salihi get him NOW! He is possibly the only player to justify Jelavic leaving and al least another striker (hopefully an attacking Mid). Might not be enough to win the league but shold make us able to put up a might stronger fight!

This Salihi looks good on Youtube, is he the one they're asking £500,000 for ? for that money I would rather we got him than Riordon and some of the others we've been linked with, should Jelavic go of course.

Yep, Salihi is a great striker. If he plays regularly he can score 20 goals in seazon, like he did last 2 years in Austria.

23 Jan 2012 21:10:53
Whats the latest on Jelavic - only reported team interested is West Ham.

The update on jelly belly is no 1 is willing to go over 4 million.face facts rangers supporters,he ain't that good.just an average player in a very bad rangers team.

Thats you's f***ed for your 29mill for hooper then as he has scored less in a s**tty league
NTYABOW

I think we'll just hang onto Hooper....................cause we can afford to. Unlike the poor bears!

Were not actively trying to punt jelavic to any1 that will listen, even his da was pleading liverpool to snatch him up the day, get a grip with reality, head out sand bears!!

Has hooper not scored more goals in old firm games and more goals in europe 4 old firm teams than jelvic mmmm

5 of Jelavic's goals were penalties. All of Hooper's were from open play.

I'd take Hooper any day.

WHUFC_News West Ham News
According to a @bradley_whufc who is ITK a £7.2m bid went in for Jelavic today which has been accepted
1 minute ago

Who gives a flying f**k what hopper has done or will do?
you celtic guys enjoy the moment cause if we could afford a little more than f all we would win the league which we still might do if we get a provy loan.

Haha did jela not gubb Celtic in Europe a few years back? Look yees can pound him aw yees want.. But he done yees in euro n he done yees in the cup n he done yees at ibrox in 4-2 game. Jelas no good? Pfff don't fkn kid yersels

Dtp89

Glad I upset all you's super hooper fans out there, you see I don't think jela is that good either, but he has still scored more than hooper man who takes the huff any time wee lemon subs him & 2 the 1 who says you's are not trying 2 punt jelavic 2 any1 thats correct you's can't he plays for us muppet brain
NTYABOW

Jellys first over 20 goals a season was last year come on you guys in scotland over rate him he will do us a job in the championship i would prefer we took g hopper westham01

Affording a little more got you in this mess , Tainted Titles . Didnt see anyone shedding tears when we were going to the wall and no one was saying that you NEED an old firm then . Wheres my violin .
CelticMatt

All of Hoopers were from open play. Aye because noone at Celtic can score a penalty

You never upset anyone pal, Hooper is in the team top of the league and your cheating team are falling apart, facing oblivion. You should be the one that's upset.
Does it upset you that Jelavic has used your team as a steppiing stone to the Championship league? lmao

Celtic supporters make me laugh, i would rather be in the mess we are in than be one of you lot. Tainted titles, what are you on about son, sounds more like sour grapes hen case closed

23 Jan 2012 20:33:32
Anyone know why Kyle Hutton isn't getting a game? he was playing week in week out for Partick Thistle on loan and hes back now but I haven't heard hes injured

Mccoist thinks hes not good enough to start?

Agree. He is a decent young player. Cant remember him playing much aft the CIS final where we put Celtic to the sword.

Barry Barry

Could be but hes not even been in squad

I thought he was fantastic against man u in last seasons CL.

He's no gettin a game because his auld man was on radio givin it to mccoist,because his boy wasnt gettin a game.Bit eh a f*d if you ask me,he's a big boy and its got hee haw eh do way his da

Again doesnt matter if your da's fighting your corner hes obviously not good enough, speaking of da's jelavics day sent out a come and get me plea to liverpool the day for his son, message to da's stay out of it lol

Hes on loan at partick thistle!

Was on loan at partick now back but apparently cany play till the window closes

23 Jan 2012 17:27:54
Pascal Feindouno, free agent. Had a trial at Celtic but didnae fancy them. Had a desire to link up with Darcheville when here. Good midfield player but we need a striker. Probs cost to much on wages though.

Rory

Is that the guy from sion? if so he's a gooc player. green jhedi

Wee couldnt afford his wages , and am taking a stab in the dark here but i very much doubt u lot can as well

daviebhoy08

And what's your point exactly?

23 Jan 2012 16:59:11
dont know if this has been said but leeds r in for jaager. nt too bothered ryt back is an area where we have alot of bodies but nt much talent atm. unless mcmillan is any gd.we need to get well rid of broadfoot. anyone for anyprice

Jaager has stressed that if rangers want him then he will come here, he will only consider Leeds if we don't offer him a deal.

23 Jan 2012 16:26:57
Watching the African Cup of Nations and reminded me one player who we really could have done with right now was Daniel Cousin.

Some will disagree but I thought he was outstanding for us.

Wat channel is it on?

If you look up lazy in the dictionary you'll find there's a picture of Daniel Cousin.

Theres no pics in the dictionary :) gr8 player but was blinded by the lights of the EPL bit old now

Danny cousin was pure class
lazy? who cares, he did the business

Tis on eurosport, Cousin was a handful when in the mood, which was few and far between

I was watching the ITV 4 coverage about 6 oclokc last night and they mentioned a zambian (i think) striker/ attacking mid who's about 25 and still plays in his native country who looked class. IN NO WAY AM I LINKING HIM WITH US. Just could be worth a look.

Daniel cousin was pish we would have been better with his cousin

Its on itv 4 as well

I was watching the ITV 4 coverage about 6 oclokc last night and they mentioned a zambian (i think) striker/ attacking mid who's about 25 and still plays in his native country who looked class. IN NO WAY AM I LINKING HIM WITH US. Just could be worth a look.


he's on loan from braga to some team in congo

"Blinded by the lights of.....Hull sh!ty" team talks on the park and jumpers for goal posts. Good riddence to bad rubbish. If the dictionary did have pictures that dope would be under "mercenary".

23 Jan 2012 16:19:39
Rangers have zlatan muslimovic and a dutch fellow bruins on trial.

McCoist keeps bringing players to Ibrox on trial which is all very well,but apparently according to media speculation we need to move players out of Ibrox before we can bring anyone in as is the case with JAAGER,
A R.B is a top priority.

23 Jan 2012 15:35:49
Whats the name of that american kid we have on trial?

Rory

Jamael Cox

We don't. we have enar jaager, luigi bruins, jorge claros and zlatan misliomvic

And Jamael Cox, read a paper.

We do according to the Daily Wreck

Muslimovic was joined at the Rangers training HQ today by American youngster Jamael Cox, who will spend a week training McCoist's men. Cox, a 19-year-old midfielder currently plays for Seattle Sounders, whose MLS season has ended.

Jamael cox from seattle sounders 19yr old

We also have jameal cox from Seattle sounders

That Cox guy hasn't been mentioned on rangers website, the rest have though.

23 Jan 2012 13:37:39
i think rangers should release ortiz, mckay anhealy and bring back kris boyd using there wages as all were missing from our team is goals. were reating 15-20 chances a game just not got a out and out goalscorer.

All this nonsense about people with inside info on tax case give it a rest we will find out the results in 6 weeks .

and another wee thought why does it always take a few years before our scouting team at ibrox start looking at the players we as fans rave about for example wee all new goodwillie was a good players bout 3 year ago last season wee seen it with russel murphy and templeton then when were about to make a move for these players there is 4/5 players in for them .. just fustrates me .

You can just release players who are under contract without giving them some sort of compensation, we don't have the money to do that!!

Goodwillie was getting charged for rape at the time - so not many clubs were too keen to sign him unsurprisingly. It was only when the charges were dropped that he became a worthwhile investment and Dundee Utd didn't want to sell him to Rangers. I am constantly bemused about idiots on here thinking they know which players to sign etc. Let me assure you all: you know NOTHING about contracts, finances, wages, targets or personal preferences of any staff at Rangers FC - FACT

Don't come on here saying "we all know nothing about contracts, finances & wages" so by saying that, you assume every Rangers fan is as thick as the proverbial ?

Ffs if Ally Give Matty Mckay a bloody chance we would be creating and tbh probaly scoring alot more , in my opinion i think hes better than davis!!

Unless you are on the inside @ Ibrox, working with the management team....the comment about knowing nothing about contracts finances & wages is completely true!! {Ed014's Note - Nonsense.Anyone who knows or has socialised with players or anyone behind the scenes knows they like to brag about what they know.

If you don't believe there are people with inside information about the tax case then carry on reading the Sun, Star etc as they match the level of IQ you most definitely have.
The tax case which was concluded last Wednesday was to determine how much Rangers are liable for, NOT to determine if they are liable or not.
Rangers will be served a bill but the amount is not known yet. In my opinion whyte will pull the plug shortly after the Dundee Utd cup game which he'll collect a pretty penny from.

So you think releasing these players is going to free up money for Boyd? Rubbish, McKay and Ortiz would prob dig their heels in and ask for their contracts to be bought out and I dont think anyone would touch Healy with a barge pole on his current salary so please, get real

So if your so in the know about he tax case. Let me know where you got your info from, because as a bear i would love to read it. We need to know what is going on at our club. Nobody know how the case as went or the hearing was viewed. And until mid/end of march when the verdict is realeased its all speculation.

Big sqaash.

Do you realise the money we would have to pay ortiz and Mackay in compensation. Think before you speak

23 Jan 2012 12:14:53
Sack Gordon Smith and FREE his wage to sign Jagger, Smith does sweet FA anyway, cant understand why he's there anyway!

Yeah, cos Gordon Smith would be quite happy to be fired without compensation because some guy on Football Rumours reckoned it would be a good idea.

I think the point was Gordon smith should never have been hired in the first place .

Most clubs have a chairman(Normally the owner) and a Chief Executive. Smith is involved with the day to day running of Rangers, Craig Whyte is not, he's in court most days.

What happened to the Huge wage Martin Bain was on im sure that alone would bring in a few decent players

23 Jan 2012 11:48:19
Zlatan Muslimović, at murray park
this morning bosnian striker last
played for PAOK free agent

only training/trial

Hes been without a club since may so that dont sound to good to start with.we should just bring back boyd and be done with it

Agree with comment above. WTF is the point in trialing all these little known foreigners, wasting their time and ours. Aye Boyd left us but he's still a Rangers man, the SPL's all time top goalscorer (and boy do we need goals right now) AND he's available for nothing! Just sign him Ally before it's too late - for the title and for your own job!

Although Boyd will cost £0 he will still be looking for £15k - £20k a week ,...which is why we havent moved for him

Just because hes been out of football for a while doesnt mean to say that hes not been keeping in shape he is a pro i am sure he will do his all to win a contract i can sense we have captured a goal machine

Do you not think its better to trial them first rather than buy riff raff not that muslimovic is

I cant believe people are judging Muslimovic before they have seen him give the guy a chance ffs hes not as bad as people are making out

We can't afford boyd's wages that's why he left us in the 1st place.
Johnger

Just cos you've not heard of them, doesn't make them bad players. Muslimovic is a hell of a lot more mobile than Boyd, if you've seen him play (which you've not)

Who cares if hes more mobile than boyd there 90 % of players are more mobile than boyd but how many percent will score more goals than him .players wo we can afford 1-5% if your lucky

That's it though, we can't afford Boyd - that's why he left. DUUUHHH.

My grandads more mobile than boyd but i dont see him getting a trial with us!

If we can afford to give steven whittiker 25k a week for the next 5 year then surely we can russell up the cash for boydie.

23 Jan 2012 11:31:17
Rangers have a 30yr old bosnian striker on trail arrived yesterday according to reports, by what i ahve read he dont sound good but we peobably will offer him a contract cause thats the kind of drivvle we can sign nowadays.

23 Jan 2012 11:16:01
Just heard from my good pal at murry park that we will be selling jel to west brom for 6.5 plus dorrons and we will be bidding 2.5 for holt

6.5m + a player WBA value at over 5m? 2.5m for a player over 30? on the same day mccoist is told to move more bodies out to get some in! think your pal must be the guy at the gate. green jhedi

Eh? WBA will be looking for at least £4.5m for Dorrans so if we get £7m for Jelavic we will only get £2.5m in cash. We should then use this to go all out to buy Javi Guerra.

Your good friend at 'murry park' - who's that then? LOL

If there is any truth in the WBA deal Dorrans in purely a make-weight as it has been well documented that Hodgson and Dorrans have fallen out, so if they think they can get one of their transfer targets for around £7M plus get rid of someone they don't want they would probably see that as good business, wouldn't you? Don't know why we are looking at Holt - but if we were offered Holt for £2M + Mackay leaving - would you not accept that deal? Of course you would

Holt is a Norwich legend who is doing the business in the Premiership for them. Lambert would be shot for selling him. Afraid just more PR crap from the club. Let's face it, unless player is free and willing to get near zero in wages, we ain't singing them

Cant see it, whatever Jelavic is sold for, the money will immediately go to debt repayments.

23 Jan 2012 11:08:38
the papers saying we need to off load players to sign anyone, they say we can't afford jaager till this happens im not so sure, I mean why would we take luigi bruins on trial if we have no coin to give him a wage, some one is tellin porkies *ksd*

Maybie to deflect pressure off whyte n smith?

It would seem we have jumped out of the frying pan and landed in the fire of another Board with their own agenda not that of Rangers. Having said that would anyone trust McCoist with real money for transfers even if we had it ????

23 Jan 2012 09:23:23
With the players we are trying to attract I fear for our future, if I'm honest I think we could be the seltic of the 90s winning a odd cup hear or there, I fear seltic could go on a 10 in a row run the gap off the park is miles, does anyone else fear do us?

Dont be daft.. there is far too much negativity going on in this forum.. i beleive cw will come good when all is settled with the taxman... there will be new investment to.

I agree, as much as it pains me to say this celtic have a strong midfield with so many options along with exciting young players homegrown and bought in the continent who give their supporters a brand of football that is fast and slick. we on the other hand play defensive, predictable lumps up the park. i would say our defence is slightly stronger but celtic are better in every other department. their scouts seem to cherry pick players unknown who are doing very well while on the other hand we are signing players who offer the team nothing what so ever. i personally would have a total clear out at ibrox starting with ally, durrant, mcdowall and the scouting network which is absolutely deplorable.

Exciting youny homegrown talent? James Forrest - i'll give you that. Who else? You are all too negative on here, so we have dropped some point recently - 4 points behind - remember Celtic were 12 behind (not including the game in hand) but made that up as we had a poor run, things will get better, most of the confidence is due to the transfer window and uncertainty, however look at the first team young talent we have coming through - albeit not getting their chance! Kyle Hutton, Jamie Ness (Injured a lot but good player) Ross Perry, Darren Cole (attitude issues as to why he was farmed out) Gregg Wylde, Kane Hemmings (again, not given a lot of a chance) Just support them and give them half a chance, things will get better!
KAMPER

Last season we had a better team than them and a manager who could grind out results (despite playing the worst "football" I've ever seen) this season we have an inexperienced manager and a team of foreign journeymen. McCoist is asking the players to respond, I think they are responding, they must be as worried and confused by all this nonsense on and off the pitch as we are. For me it's simple set out to win games rather than not losing them, the players and fans will be happier and the rest of it will happen anyway, we are a huge club and should be dominating games not changing our so called tactics to accomodate minnows. McCoist should have got some real mangerial experience before taking a job of this magnitude he is obviously out of his depth.

Time for action Mr Whyte if we're not going to get decent players we need a decent manager if we are to compete for the SPL next season

Darren cole, kyle hutton, john fleck, kane hemmings and greg wylde are average young players who don't fill me with much hope if their the youngsters we're relying on for the future.

Celtic only have one homegrown player in their first team and thats James Forrest, all the rest were brought in for a fee or a bosman. Celtic are signing as much players as possible in their deperate attempts to win the league, they can only do it against a small Rangers squad who can't offer players the same wages as Celtic. With the size of squad they had last season they have won the league and they didn't....the league isn't over yet, let's be a bit more optimistic here.

If we have to wait a couple of seasons before we get back on track and start offering the players the same of wages as Celtic then so be it, we will have to grin and bear it.

Support the club!!

TTG

They have produced player after player from the continent yet we sign players who contrabute nothing to the team.

23 Jan 2012 08:13:10
Morning Bears, just read the rags online. Now we are being told that Ally needs to sell before he can buy....... So, why bring the lad Jaager on trial, with a view to offering a contract ? Also, did Ally not come out and say last week that he was going to sit down and have a meeting with C.W ? Surely he would have been told there and then that he needs to sell to buy ? things are just not adding up and if anything, getting cloudier and cloudier around this man C.W..... What about being able to get Celik in ? and, if we are to sell jelavic, why are we waiting 'til a week before the window closes ? If we are selling and he has had offers, sell him and lets move on, things are going from bad to worse and the lies and coming hard and fast now....... Another disastrous transfer window and we are struggling to beat sh@t like Aberdeen !!!! If we don't beat Hibs and go out of the cup to D.Utd, what then ? BlueMonday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mccoist is being used as a buffer for whyte n he seems to be playing him like a violin. if i was a ger id be asking what is smiths part in this? deffo think whyte dznt fancy mccoist n gers fans who are mates are hearing all sorts of stories(most wrong prob) n once again no europe nxt year? green jhedi

23 Jan 2012 00:12:41
Dutch winger luigi bruins is at Murray park on trial. Reported in daily mail and sun

Went to red bull Salzburg on loan and lasted three games before having contract cancelled, sounds great. Incidentally how many wingers do we need. Ortiz signed as a winger, wylde, Kerman, celik. Think a cf is what is required.

Who the hell is kerman? and we do need a left winger, papac will be gone at end of the season wallace will play in his best role left back he's not intuitive enough in the midfield , wylde ortiz kerkar are all pants, we need more than just sone and naisy out wide to go the course!*ksd*

Sounds like another ortiz to me.

Better off wae kermit ........... lol

Luigi Bruins is a highly gifted playmaker when his attitude is right.
Could be what Rangers need if he applies himself to doing what he does best.

Great another unknown european flop. will fit in nicely with the others warming the bench!