Rangers Rumours Archive July 23 2012
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23 Jul 2012 21:42:40
Does anyone know if the SPL are holding Dunfermline to ransom about their Tv/media rights seeing as they have now dropped out of the SPL and have became an SFL club?
Seems to be a bit of double standards there & where's the sporting integrity gone?
The Pilot!
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What ransom, SPL have offered Rangers sweetener to accept SPL investigation. Access to a revised Sky deal is a benefit, not blackmail FFS.
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I don't quite understand what you're on about. Dunfermline didn't go BUST....Dunfermline didn't have the rules changed to get them back into Scottish football....Dunfermline didn't say they would accept any sanction to get back into football and then turn around and fight and argue about every one....
Dunfermline were relegated, Rangers weren't. You were liquidated, bust, finished, kaput....
Dunfermline DID do nothing wrong....there is no similarity with The Rangers.
If you want to feel sorry for anybody, feel sorry for the creditors you left behind.
Shug
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A benefit my ar*e.
Our previous owners / players tried to avoid paying tax like many high earners during that process they did not lobotomise the Rangers fans ya numpty.
The bears are needed by the backstabbing SPL, which includes your club, because we have the most support and bring more to the table than any other team. Sky have seen the number of cancellations and they know that pubs will start to cancel when their pubs have fewer punters. Honestly, who wants to watch Celtic vs Motherwell when they could watch the mighty Rangers playing Peterhead.
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To the post above if you believe that its the spl offering rangers a sweetner then you really are dumb! why is the spl saying they wont be able to pay the two million to the sfl unless they get the tv deal with rangers. also why are they trying to withhold rangers membership? sky is pulling the plug on the spl you know it i know it check there schedule no spl...mark.
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What would you do if you had the vote stand your ground or give in to them and let them take it all?
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I hope his injuries are behind him and RFC sign him because he is a bear and will play for the jersey. He should score easily in the lower leagues too.
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My point is that we went bust and accepted the consequences. We have been demoted to division 3 along with other punishments and just when it seems that we have the end game the SPL pops up with a new threat to withhold SFL money if they don't get our tv/media rights. They have no right, they refused us entry and kicked us out so how can they demand tv money or refuse to honour the SFL deal?
It's like kicking your son out of the house but still demanding dig money from him.
The Pilot!
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This is absolute bo***cks. Sky are a multi billion Ł company and are not stupid enough to pull the plug on SPL football because Rangers are not there. How many supporters of the rest of the clubs in the SPL subscribe to Sky. The entire SPL subscribers will outnumber Rangers subscribers 10 to 1. Therefore Sky know that if all other subscribers cancel subscriptions they stand to lose billions per year. SPL football will be televised, there may possibly be a reduction in income to SPL, but just because Rangers are not there, does not mean no SPL on TV. Think what you are saying, Sky will pay SPL or they will lose 1000's of subscribers nationally not just from Rangers fans
Billy
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Rangers were not demoted....they went BUST!! Is what Ally's got contageous or something!!??
On the 13th July club's weren't voting to demote you. They were voting to allow your new, debt-free company into the league. This they did, ahead of teams like Spartans who have been waiting to get in.
On Friday I spoke to an old Rangers fan who said that he's got share's in the OldCo. I offered my condolensces for his loss. Drunken fool went mental. Started quoting Ally and all this relegation and punishment crap. He didn't even realise that you had went bust and his old shares are worthless.
Think it's about time to grasp this:
Liquidation: termination of a business operation by using its assets to discharge its liabilities.
If that is still not clear:
Termination: The action of bringing something or coming to an end.
Please, please understand....
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Billy dream on m8 why would the SPL be after our TV rights then? I tell ya why because Sky are going to reduce the TV rights money by a large amout so now the SPL are shi**ing themselfs along with all the other SPL clubs well tough you have made your bed so now lie in it...............
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Celtic fans, once again, trying to stop Rangers' fans from cancelling sky sports by pretending it would have no effect whatsoever. Well,I for one will only renew my subscription if our away matches are televised thus giving SFL extra money and less for SPL/Celtic. Sky will not entertain Scottish football without Rangers.
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23 Jul 2012 21:38:40
Tickets for brechin game sold out.Its on main website
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Oh thats amazing well its not the san siro is it lol
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Brillant news. quite clearly it aint the san siro but what more can the fans do but sell out the allocation of tickets available to us?
J1985
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"Oh thats amazing well its not the san siro is it lol"
Lets see how many games are sold out at the crumbledome after the league is over in 3 months.
Honestly, will you lot ever stop kicking and trying to take a pop??
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Firstly the comparison about the san siro sums up the roasters mentality. Secondly i detect a wee bit of jealousy as his team are gearing up for a european campaign n going for 2iar yet no one is interested......its all about the rangers, papers, tv......everywhere, all more interested in us rather than their non competitive league campaign n likely failed european campaign.
J1985
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The game is on bbc alba on sky live at 15:00 hrs think its channel161 on sky
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Mugs,
Lining the pockets of clubs who have crapped on us.
Stu
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MUG!!!
Failing to support your club in times of need. The banks crapped on us......do you keep your money under the matress now ya tool???!!!
J1985
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J1985,
I was a shareholder and am still a season ticket holder for 27 years and have supported the club through thick & thin. No one will ever point the finger at me.
My stance is that I will not contribute to any club in Scotland after the way we have been treated, alot of them have short memories.
If you want to line their pockets more fool you. You are a clown and embarrassment to call a fellow supporter a tool because he has a different opinion to you.
Stu
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23 Jul 2012 21:36:06
The most important issue in obtaining a licence is Craig Whyte's continued involvement
All the other issues can be negotiatedd
Whyte has not walked away and the SFA are not about to issue a licence until they are 100% certain Whyte is history.
The SFA obviously considered the tranfer embargo a done deal when issuing Friday's press release and Sevco backtracking will have further damaged relations.
The worst possible scenario is Craig Whyte re-emerging and the SFA closing the club down.
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Craig Whyte is a debt collector now so he may return.
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Posted a bit on the banter mate saying similar.
Green will not disclose everyone involved, because the fans will go nuts when they find out who's still there, and the catch 22 is that the SFA won't issue a licence without the disclosure, with now only 5 days to go until ko, things are worse than desperate.
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This is not the most important problem at all and really don't know where you get this rubbish. whyte is not involved at all, he was shareholder in oldco, this is newco, including the assets which Green purchased.
The problem is as reported, they want SFL's 'tv money, they want the fine, they want the transfer embargo and stripping of titles. That's the problem, nothing to with Whyte
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I am afraid craig whyte is involve floating charge and all that stuff.. get real guys you think hes that daft...jc
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Perhaps the chap who states Green is not now involved could explain what has happened to the legal charge that Green held over the Ibrox Stadium value Ł18m.
Did he just surrender it out of the goodness of his heart, or did Green pay him Ł18m. Neither scenario seems very likely.
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How can Whyte be a debt collector for a new company with NO debt? he is and WAS associated with the old company which pains me to say is gone.
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23 Jul 2012 20:53:40
So what is really happening behind the scenes at Ibrox.
A few things over the past few days suggest that something is brewing.
I've nothing concrete to say what it is, but with everything that has gone on over the past few months, something is just not right. And I'm not even suggesting that these matters are related, but something is just not right.
1. We have Charles Green telling the media that he is going to Zurich to meet with UEFA to dicuss the payments due to other clubs. UEFA and FIFA both confirm that they have not had a meeting with Green and did not even have one arranged. But most surprisingly, Rangers have refused to answer any questions about this. Why say you're meeting with UEFA when you're not.
2. We then have Ally making statements regarding a meeting with the SFA over proposed conditions attached to the transfer of SFA membership and over the potential for stripping of titles. This sounded very much like a man preparing his excuses for resigning.
3. Really worryingly, Alastair Johnston was giving an interview on TV last night. This guy does not just appear for no good reason. Every time he has appeared before it has been to discredit those in charge or trying to takeover or backing someone who is trying to takeover. I'd expect to hear more from him soon.
4. Perhaps the most baffling. Brian Kennedy announcing he is in discussions with Rangers over a majority shareholding in the club, yet Green denies this.
All very, very strange.
Mac2.
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And why are all the kits on SALE already....trying to get money in quick for some reason....
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From what I hear Ally went into that meeting with the full intention of saying what he did. It definitely wasn't any spur of the moment outburst.
Resigning soon? Hopefully not but I wouldn't bet against it, as I said elsewhere on here, the stripping of titles would give him a legitimate reason for 'walking away'.
BARNEY BEAR
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All posturing, sanctions were agreed weeks ago. Ally's theatrics are for the fans benefit and nothing else.
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All this talk of stripping titles is a bit premature to say the least.
Fair enough if we are proven to have broken league rules but until then it is all pie in the sky.
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Crickey the conspiracy theories are rife today. There were less conspiracies when the aliens crashed in Roswell.
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Ally is prepping everyone, including himself for resigning. He was hung out to dry.
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Green and McCoist have no say on stripping of titles, they are new club ; The Rangers.
Titles belong to old club being liquidated and managed by D&P.
The integrity of the SPL and cups historical records are at stake. The records need put right. Rangers cheated titles.
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The stripping of titles would give him a legitimate reason for 'walking away'. WHY? That is old Rangers and are consigned the history books. His job is to look after new Rangers and get them back to the SPL.
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Who drafts Ally's speeches? Brown!
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I don't believe that Newco will kick a single ball in anger this season - they will take a year to sort outstanding issues out!
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23 Jul 2012 19:05:44
brian kennedy should ask the man what he wants or just go away its 6 days before game at brechin we need to put this to bed once and for all if he is serious why does he not join with john brown and do a deal we just dont need anymore upset its bad enough everyone else having a go at us we got to stick together watp
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Who played and scored do you know?
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Because no sane person would want to team up with Brown, he is a joke!
CBP
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Bomber C.Nesbitt wants only 'real Rangers men' so would have no truck to a Hibbee buying 51% of Rangers.
BARNEY BEAR
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Just read BBC website, Kennedy nows admits it was the offer he made on the 27th June - nearly a month ago, hardly 'recent' as he claimed
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23 Jul 2012 17:54:05
Incase no one knew we beat Airdrie 2-1 and Albion rivers 4-0 in close door games. risky bear
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We beat albion 5-1
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We beat albion 5-1
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Don't know where u get your info but it's b****cks we beat Albion 5-1
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Wow how the mighty have fallen... Bragging about beating Airdrie and Albion Rovers..... Sweet
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Dont worry, we will see the Celtic fall soon starting in europe and then when their players want to join a more competitive league. .
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"Wow how the mighty have fallen... Bragging about beating Airdrie and Albion Rovers..... Sweet"
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Why the obsession with a club a couple of months old in the 3rd division?
Jog off and enjoy the top of the table battles with Motherwell; we will enjoy our adventure through the divisions, meeting new people visiting new clubs and towns, finding new heroes truly interested in our club.
What do you have to look forward to? Another European masterclass in tactics from Lennon and a title wrapped up by November.
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Fair comment. We will squeeze every penny in transfer fee's out of the clubs buying them though and will be financially sound. Probably go and buy young players and bring them on. Its the way it is now. We wont be making the same silly mistakes Rangers did. NEW Rangers home tops are now on SALE! If that doesnt set alarm bells ringing then i dont know what will mate.
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Risky bear did you work for Murray and Whyte as an accountant?
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23 Jul 2012 16:56:11
Rangers say they haven't spoken to Brian Kennedy since mid June. Charles Green not interested in selling a controlling stake in club.
More muck racking by Traynor to sell newspapers.
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Exactly! Brian K said he'd have to come clean since the Record had 'Leaked the Story', which clearly means Kennedy wanted it leaked. More divisive and disruptive tactics from people who feign genuine interest but really want power and profit.
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But Kennedy confirmed he'd put in the bid & was in talks, so think Traynors in the clear with this one :/
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Traynor is a idiot.he has always givin us ar*eache graeme
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Kennedy another joke he had his chance now the bears need to get behind green and lets build our gallows bigger than ever lets get behind him if he wanted to run now was the time 3rd division green would have fled if he wanted quick buck get behind him
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Its not up to green alone its up to the shareholders.i think they all have a price in mind as soon as its met bye bye
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Green now saying no meetings held or written or verbal offer made. Kennedy and Traynor stirring it up for Green.
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When is this pantomime going to finish its
becoming more embarrassing every day.
sfa spl sfl the media, please get it right or there will be no football at all for everyone .it is going to run longer trhan the mousetrap.
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Heard a strong rumour,Spartans have been told to stand by wednesday
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Green or Kennedy , someone telling porkies and i dont trust green one bit , to many real rangers men doubting him , once again bears please dont renew season tickets this man will take your money and run they have no cash !! Ger76
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23 Jul 2012 15:57:16
how much are individual tickets gonna eb roughly for the games ? i know for the ramsdens cup berwick are chargin £20
so if we can use that as a guide (my season book will be £381 is over £20 a ticket ?? this doent make sense at all .... can it be that it will be cheaper to get an indivdual ticket for each gaem than a season book ?
puzzled ger !
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Sure i seen price of tickets for this sundays game in ramsdens cup was Ł16
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A true fan!
Come on FFS! We are trying to build a new club, not linger in Div3, surely an extra Ł20 isn't asking too much?
bil72
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Your season tickets cost how much ??....where are you sitting coz mine is only Ł258 for cf5
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Tickets for Brechin game are Ł16. Season tickets will be 30% off and 50% off for juniors. Been popping up on TV.
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Full adult Season tickets to cost a third less with juveniles & concessions cut by 50%
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Bundesliga Borussia Moenchengladbach v Bayern MĂĽnchen,Real football. cost,,, 10 pounds.That's to watch quality football not 3rd rate dross.
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23 Jul 2012 15:01:18
Ramsdens Cup 1st Round: Brechin City v Rangers (28 July) will now take place on Sunday 29th July, Kick-off 3.05pm - Live on BBC ALBA.
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Does this mean that SFA have given us a licence - or are we getting ahead of ourselves?
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Ok totally gutted game on wed kelty v rangers is of due to license not being granted.I am really worried now that green and the sfa are in a mexican stand off with green not accepting sanctions and the sfa not backing down.They are playing a dangerous game it is obvious scottish football needs rangers.PS NO NEED FOR ANY POSTS SAYING THEY DONT your not fooling anyone just being stupid at best and bitter at worst.As for the idiots at the sfa they are full of themselfs so they wont buch.I did not want to see it happen but i think it might be time to accept scottish football is about to go down hill fast.
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They,ll make sure we have license by sunday. there,s tv money there.
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I think Green is doing exactly the right thing. He is sticking to his guns. Why should we bend over and get shafted all the time. They have shoved us in the 3rd but now they also want the tv money to watch us there as well. On your bike SFA cause thats all your going to get S.F.A
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@gutted - i think you might find that it is the SPL who are holding up the process as they fight to get their hands on SFL (our media rights) and save the sky deal for the SPL
JG
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23 Jul 2012 14:56:15
Sale Sharks owner Brian Kennedy has confirmed he remains interested in buying Rangers.
Kennedy, who was part of the Blue Knights consortium, was reportedly aiming to take a £5.6m controlling interest in Charles Green's Sevco.
"The details of these meetings and the written offer I have submitted have been disclosed from within the club," Kennedy said in a statement.
Sevco bought the assets of Rangers for £5.5m with the club facing liquidation.
In a statement, Kennedy confirmed he had made an written offer for control of the club.
"I have recently had several confidential meetings with a gentleman representing the shareholders of Sevco, with regards to my interest in purchasing a majority shareholding in Rangers Football Club," he said.
"The details of these meetings and the written offer I have submitted have been disclosed from within the club.
"Now that this has leaked I have I have no alternative but to confirm that what is reported in the Daily Record regarding such matters is accurate.
"I have no further comment to make at this time."
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Offer was made and rejected on 25th June. He hasn't withdrawn it though if they change their minds.
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23 Jul 2012 14:45:33
Kelty Hearts have told STV their game with Rangers on Wednesday has been postponed. Sevco Scotland yet to be given SFA membership.
Kelty Hearts: "Thanks must go to the SFA for having a negative impact on the top end and lower end of Scottish Football."
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If the registration will not be through by Wednesday will it be through to allow the Ramsden Cup match to by played
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SFA shocking, helping scottish football my ass. They could have given permission for this game to go ahaead on a one off basis and gave kelty some much needed income from a sell out game
JG
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23 Jul 2012 14:29:42
Kennedy confirms new bid on table for 51% share holding stake
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What happened to there NEVER being a majority shareholder ever again, where someone's ego take flight? 51% of anything would indicate a majority shareholder....
Bill
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Bid was made and rejected outright on the 25th of June!
Kennedy says it's still on the table but Sevco haven't made any return to the table.
Dead story!
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Im sorry fellow Bears but i am SICK of this guy Kennedy. He is nothing but a publicity junky. If he was legit, he could have made a SERIOUS offer in the first place. Go away mate.
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Kennedy says he's been in talks with the majority shareholder....clearly not Charles Green.
Enter stage left Whyte and Ticketus.
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23 Jul 2012 14:17:43
brian kennedy is holding talks with sevco scotland ltd to buy a majority shareholding in Rangers.
"I have recently had several confidential meetings with a gentleman representing the shareholders of Sevco, with regards to my interest in purchasing a majority shareholding in Rangers Football Club," Kennedy said.
now am not saying yes he has money wee are going to do this and do that,but i feel if brian takes over then wee would have a full ibrox everyone behind the owner it would give us a real lift and piece of mind knowing what this man is about...fingers crossed for now
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Here we go again. Another day another saviour. Another "real" Rangers man who will transform the team. When all else fails, try honesty. There has only been one guy who has stood up when it was needed. Green. Give him a chance.
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Please tell us what he is about?
Mac2.
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All we ask is someone to run the club not for profit like mr green has said he will do.but mr green won't be around when we get back to spl not a chance rangers will be in the hand of rangers people or the fans this time next year
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Mr green was the only man willing to put his money where his mouth was now lets see how many true rangers fans go to ibrox this year to support there team and john brown whats he all about he should buy in to it to find out whats going on he can get a share 1m for 10 percent
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Just wondering, how much money did Green personally put in HIMSELF besides his mysterious investors? Have we learned our lessons with these types yet? Remember the only true investor is the supporters! We wont get transparency from Green unless WE demand it. If he's gen up he'll understand, or is he just looking out for his investors? I just don't think he's been put through the fire enough, his sincerity looks too much like a strategy.
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23 Jul 2012 13:45:02
Talk of Blackburn Rovers putting in an offer for Wallace
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Good move for the boy.
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If justice prevails Sevco shouldn't get a penny; they've not paid for him.
Thats theft the way I was brought up!!
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Lee Wallace shouldn't be playing in 3rd division way to good for that.
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Sevco will be paying for him...havent you been reading the papers? Being made to pay the football debts is one of the conditions of SFA membership.
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It isn't theft as the SPL hold back the money Rangers get for finishing second and this pays off all debts owed to teams in Scotland.
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Right thing to do is pay hearts what they are owed if we get that much and if he is actually sold.it would be the right thing to do to prove that the people currently running our club are not like the old regime
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Last i heard Hearts were getting the money from the SPL as they were witholding Rangers earnings for last seasons second place finish. This is along with money owed to Dundee Utd, Celtic and Dunfermline. Is this correct ed ? {Ed039's Note - They have defo not paid out, as far as I am aware this is where this money was supposed to go)
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