Rangers Rumours Archive June 23 2012

23 Jun 2012 17:49:22
Record correct, SFA prepare to disband Appellate Panel
Posted on 23 June, 2012 by Paul67
This morning’s article in the Daily Record is not a work of fiction.  They reported that SFA chief executive Stewart Regan’s “bid to deliver a broad consensus over the way forward also involved discussions over the appellate tribunal’s transfer embargo on Rangers.”

In short, the SFA discussed changing their rules to disband the Independent Appellate Panel process before instructing Lord Carloway to sit in response to the Court of Session’s rejection of his previous judgement.

With two further Independent Judicial Tribunals still to sit in judgement on the actions of Rangers, for the illegal registration of players and non-payment of social taxes during the EBT era, the SFA will also subvert these rules before ‘Rangers’ are expelled from the Association.

After the meeting Regan left for his summer vacation without instructing Lord Carloway to convene the Appellate Panel.

That’s not all.

The scam to establish an SLP 2 in order to allow the SFA and SPL to co-opt ‘Rangers’ into that league is what the governing bodies have planned for your game.

If rules are changed AFTER a club is found guilty and in receipt of a penalty in order to nullify that penalty the game in this country is broke, ethically and financially.  Having established independent judicial panels to deal with serious rule breaches the SFA cannot do Rangers bidding without removing all judicial oversight.

We’re back to the days of George Peat walking in and out of hearings for the Celtic manager.

Most disturbingly of all, YOU are the cash cow for this outrageous enterprise.  With Rangers gone from the SPL Celtic fans bring all the commercial and television income into the game, and are set to buy more away ground tickets than all other clubs put together.

You are expected to continue to cough up for tickets to Tynecastle, Rugby Park etc, and subscribe to ESPN and Sky Sports – money which will divvied up among SPL 1 and SPL 2 teams, as well as they rest of the Scottish Football League clubs, to compensate for them missing out on a ‘Rangers’ game.

You will also pay more money for those tickets than any other group of fans in the league.  Why don’t you just write a cheque to Kilmarnock, Falkirk or Cowdenbeath today?

This nonsense will not bring another £1 into the game, all it will do is redistribute money from your pocket to clubs who care nothing for you.  Partick Thistle yesterday released a statement on their site, “We believe Scottish football needs to be restructured, financial distribution needs to be fairer for all clubs”.

“Financial distribution needs to be fairer”!  Patrick Thistle get to keep all their ticket sales, commercial and other income.  By “fairer” they mean they want some of your money.  If you agree with them, write them a cheque, but if you disagree, you better figure out what to do next.

Thoughts that some great victory has been achieved are premature.   Prepare for the next instalment.

Our domestic competition is, at best, uninspiring.  This disgusting land-grab for your cash will destroy our ability to compete in Europe, and it’s not just the senior team who will suffer.  The Celtic youth system costs millions to operate each year, don’t fantasise that it will survive intact.

Celtic currently employ 27 Scotland youth internationals.  They are almost single-handedly carrying the future of our national team.  This attempt to bleed your club dry will devastate all areas, with subsequent consequences for the Scotland team.

It’s not often I’ve told you the Daily Record have nailed a story but this one is on the money (your money).  I’m at a loss as to what to do next.

We cannot accept this.

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.....this is not really a rumour of it will be the boys fans left to carry the burden of Scottish football while our top men haven't got the balls to pass down the judgement even every levelled headed club 12 fan would agree

If the newco is not in the spl it would not be beneficial to other clubs to share gate money without rangers the money would be only 50% ( so two games at parkhead ) in return for giving away 50% of all of their home games if both rangers a celtic where in league it would work but without rangers the top three teams with the highest attendance would loose more money than they would gain celtic take the biggest travelling support to away matches (aswell as rangers) and give the teams their biggest crowd we would take 50% of all their cash to so without rangers this would be a no go

Great post i am a rangers fan (not club 12 ) and agree with you now that we have gone you are on your own regarding voting and instead of having two teams to bleed they only have one so you are now expected to go down to there level i when there was two we were strong this is just the start the actions of my own team have a lot to answer for the old firm have sadly gone. Cooperbou

I smell contempt of court.
Lord Glennie at the court of Session sent the issue to Lord Carloway's appellant panel. It's not in Regans power to interfere with what is now judicial process. Regan is deliberately undermining a Court of Session ruling and both Lords Glennie and Carloway.

Of the above is true every fan in Scotland will walk away from this corruption. The game would be dead. Killed by Rangers and Rangers' friends.
The solution is simple. Rangers to the third. Dundee to the SPL. Don't change anything else this year.

Regan is extremely close to Campbell Ogilvie.
Ogilvie gave him the job.
Regan is hopelessly compromised.

Celtic will reduce gate monies to pennies for Celtic fans and therefore shares of gate monies will be pennies. Celtic fans will give their money to Celtic by other means, such as annual memberships, gifts, etc......
But of course no SPL team is looking for shares of other teams home gate revenue. It's illegal. All they can influence is tv money and prize money.

If this is true then Fifa and Uefa will come down on the SFA like a tone of bricks and ban all clubs from fom Europe and ban Scotland from the World Cup and the European championships

What a strange post. Can't work out who you really are. The bit about changing rules after the event sure is true. As there were no rules or the SFA/SPL hadn't a clue what to do, they have been frantically trying to invent rules to punish Rangers every which way but loose. Fact is, Scottish football has been dead from the neck down (the neck being the Old Firm) since the late 1980s. The sooner changes are made and the OF move to England the better. £3 billion TV money for the EPL - it is a different world. Don't hold Celtic up to be saints in all that's wrong with Scottish football, that same team that flies the Irish tricolour above Parkhead. People seem to forget what Rangers have done for Scottish football over the decades. Short memories but sadly things have now changed forever.

Whole thing is a mess, just like the sfa making up punishments that dont exist, yet they expect gerts to take that, the fact is, league needs gers weather people accept that or not, sky will go tata if no gers for more than 1 year and that will finish the spl with kille being the 1st club to be finished, dangerous

This is untrue

To be correct half of the old firm have gone. Celtic are still going strong and will do when club 12 or whatever the newest Scottish football team is to be called. 50% of gate money is a pipe-dream, if pushed I will pay £500 for my Celtic scarf with a free season ticket included.

I am completely confused by this news. What does it actually mean in terms of what will happen to Rangers Newco?

The spl needs competion surely rangers could stay in the spl but take the points reductions for a few years would keep the crowds up

If rangers go into div 1 this could lead to a revolt by teams in that league ie fans they will see this as arrogance in the real world the spl would be the best place with penalties this wont happen tho as scottish fans want rangers in the 3rd division the new rangers are in a no win situation the club needs 30 million pounds investment at least and with the player revolt this could damage the newco before it starts the confusion and where rangers will play only adds to this the quicker it is resolved the better the quicker mr green comments on future investment and a plan going forward the better this is worrying times not for just the newco but the whole of the scottish game in general sporting rules have to be applied for fairness which i understand and most fans agree sfa spl sfl must act quickly but fairly

23 Jun 2012 16:21:39
Kevin Kyle said he wud consider a move to newco rangers surly if things go wrong and we're in div 3 he wud b a valuable player to get rangers back into the SPL.

Heard him say that today

Just whats needed a player with knees like an eighty year old woman

If this is true and the guy is fit, he is a good player.

Was looking good at Hearts before his injury.

Mac.

Definitely, I think we will still have enough quality to get out of D1. If its D3 we will have no option but look at players of D2 etc. if we get oput in first division it won't be that bad, I think lots of players will stay.

J

He used to go to parkhead and watch celtic as a boy,but as it's a newco with new attitudes and values,that won't be a problem,right?

If its div 3 then expect a few retired ex gers to throw their hat in the ring. seriously I know Neil McCann and he told me if askeed he'd deffo give it a go for 1 season

23 Jun 2012 16:37:26
"Rangers would like to make it abundantly clear to players, agents and the chairmen and managers of other football clubs that we will take whatever steps necessary to challenge what we regard as a breach of contract to protect the interests of our club."

Breach of contracts . what about all the creditors they owe . in their eyes nothing has changed . Sally still thinks he is in a dream and there`s still a Rangers .

I keep telling newco fans,its all over.bb

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED..................

Which Rangers , Rangers(IA) soon to be liquidated or sevco 5088, the player's union wouldn't have stated the players can refuse to transfer accross if it wasn't true also any player transferred accross must be offered the same terms and conditions, we couldn't afford them then and certainly not now, have no faith in Green

Frustrated bear

Challenge where in court ? which court? and under which laws - they have no legal standing with regard to the player.

thats the big point - so why threaten other clubs now - who are about to vote for gers in spl ??

this is madness...

I hope Rapid Vienna and Hearts are p*ssing themsleves with laughter.

He just wants the players to transfer over so he can get a transfer fee for them. He has no interest in who the players are, he just needs the money from transfers to keep the new club alive.

Lol rangers doesnt exist so players dont have a contract anymore so they can walk free the old rangers is gone and so did there contracts have fun playing in division 3

He certainly is no expert in public or human relations. if he has concerns about players leaving he should talk to them. Give them their new proposed terms in writing. No need to shout "I'll Sue!" every time he faces a problem.

23 Jun 2012 16:34:27
ive heard from a work colleague who stays in the same street as mccabe that he is going to blackpool

What ...for the weekend ?....deecee

Let him go

They have enough donkeys in Blackpool

Great move another fleck in the waiting

Well if he wants to go to an average team then let him go. We need men now who are prepared to walk through walls to stay with Rangers, men like Lee McCulloch, a man who has the club at heart.

23 Jun 2012 14:12:33
Super ally has released a statement on the rangers web-site. Interesting read and very true.

CJM

Looks like the manager isnt happy if the players want to leave theres not a thing he can do dreading the next 48 hours more will leave i think sad times

Super Ally spouts off again.

The players aren't "leaving" anywhere. The company which employed them is in liquidation. If the new company wants to offer them the same T&Cs then they might consider working for that new company. Otherwise, they are free to do as they please. Thankfully, we are now in the 21st Century and employees can not be bought and sold by employers to do with as they see fit.

Good luck to all the lads who realise what is going on. Just like everyone else, they have the right to make sure they have an income to support themselves and their families.

Players don't know what division they'll be playing in, most likely Div 3.

Then again as the club don't even seem to possess a bank account at this moment in time, they might not be able to play in any division. Nothing would surprise me any more.

So let's not blame anyone who 'walks away'. BB

Truly desperation from McCoist and Green.

The players have a legal right to simply walk away. After all that has been forced on them by Rangers, they deserve a settled future with a settled wage and no concerns but football.
There's no dignity in the McCoist/ Green statement. The players need to sign up to newco so they can be sold. It's not going to be SPL that's for sure.

Ally is wrong it isnt the same club a different one and it isnt in front of the same fans untill the fans decide as such.

Ally was their former manager.
It's always about money. It always has been for centuries, everywhere.
Good luck to the players they need to look after themselves and their families.

'If players want to leave and play somewhere else then they should be honest with the Rangers supporters.'

I'm generally an Ally fan but this from the guy who almost walked out himself last week and who, not long before we went into administration claimed he had a good working relationship with Craig Whyte. Really, Ally? Where you being honest with the Rangers fans there?

Not to mention insisting on knowing the names of an SFA board for reasons of transparency when he already knew the names of the board.

The players all took substancial financial hits last season ,, how can they be expected to suffer again ? as it stands no one knows where they'll be playing next season and what the revised wage structure will be ,, if it's not the SPL ( and that's looking unlikely ) then there's no way they will revert back to their previous salary ,, dont think Ally should be levelling critizism until the players have been consulted because the silence is deafening with regards to where the stand at the minute .

Its the second time I feel Ally has let his heart rule his head and to me anyone is shows a manager who's hacked off with his players. Bottom line the media refer to us as a NEWCO for a reason so Ally going off on one isn't helping if its division one then he needs to think what he needs to win promotion and get back competing and a guy like McCabe should be in the team week in week out so clearly he's not as close to his players as he thinks, which is a worry.

Think mccoist should stop playing the media game he now just looks like a puppet. He has went from my hero to a laughing stock. Why should anyone go through all this when they can walk away and play at a higher level. You are taught from a young age play at the highest level u can. They owe the club nothing. Best of luck boys . Ally time to do walking away for your own sake do not get your good name be dragged into this farce with an asset stripper

I think allys problem is the fact they've chosen to inform the media before him or the club, got to agree with him there.

Good luck to the players i say they dont belong to mr green or the manager they are free to go the lads are only after their best interest good luck to them ally is going to have to stay after his famous quote we dont do walking away would look impossible for him to walk away now he was stuck in the middle between smith and green but he cant dictate to the players they dont have a contract with the newco the players union would have told them this the boys have tried their best lets not be too critical sad gers fan

I'm suspicious of this statement and what motivated it. If the players walk, Green and SEVCO have zilch. There is no newco, there is no team, there is nothing. Maybe Green has pressurised McCoist with this and he's made the statement out of pure desperation. I don't think he should have. This is Green's mess, not his. He did well holding it together until the end of the season, but its time he cut Green, Whyte and D&P loose, or he's going to get tarred with the same brush as these chancers. He should have kept his mouth shut, as he has no right to take moral high ground with guys who took 75% wage cut to play for his team.
Newco Rangers are no longer Rangers of old. They have 'walked away' from £50 million debt to creditors. McCoist's moralising seems misguided at best, totally manipulative and hypocritical, at worst.

Good old ally doing whatever he can to save his skin. he knows fine well if it wasnt for admin he would have been sacked by Whyte and the only reason Greens keeping him there is for ally to be his puppet and trying to get the rangers fans on side. Worst rangers manager for years and the longer you guys believe his crap the longer your troubles will last. See through these charlatans the players have taken the sacrifices let them go if they want.

We cant hold the players back let them find better pastures the team were a credit through this as for ally i think green is pulling the strings ally wake up

Ally doesn't talk for fans. It's patronizing. I'm a fan and he doesn't speak for me because I fully disagree with him.
He was a good footballer. He has been a poor manager. He has been appalling at speaking out on behalf of Rangers, little education there.

It's about time we dropped the 'super' tag from Ally. He's at best mediocre Ally. Ever wondered why no clubs have approached our magnificent manager? Oh wait, I forgot Newco FC.

It would have been difficult for the players to contact him when he was on his holiday with his phone switched off.

No disrespect on holiday when the new club is in meltdown crazy

Well could the players not have had the
common decency to wait till he came bacK?

23 Jun 2012 13:06:30
And it is thought that Aluko has now turned down the transfer of his contract, following in the footsteps of young midfielder Rhys McCabe.

Aluko only moved to Ibrox in November on a short-term deal until the end of the season, and a number of impressive performances for Gers had seen him linked with several other clubs.

It is understood that eight other senior players could be set to follow Aluko's example and reject the transfer of their contracts.

Aluko was allowed to clearly transfer from Aberdeen to Rangers outside the transfer window. Aluko paid his own £200k release fee to Aberdeen from his own pocket and reputed loans from his fellow villagers.
SFA doing Rangers a wee favour. His registration was clearly with Aberdeen, but injured.
He promptly thereafter went onto 25% wages and owes Rangers absolutely nothing. Indeed Rangers owes Aluko many thanks and w outstanding wages.

Hope there isn't a backlash
Players are only exercising their entitlements within employment law

On Super Ally's statement, it also quotes green as saying that all contracts already transferred !

It clearly states Aluko had a contract to the end of the season, that has now passed and unless Aluko has been made an offer for his services next season then he has refused nor rejected absolutely nothing. I fail to see why his name continues to be raised.

Aluko was out of contract so he aint knocked back anything get ur facts right

23 Jun 2012 12:30:16
BBC reporting that there is one further unamed player who has informed Rangers he is leaving.

Mac.

Davis, mcgregor, Naismith and Whittaker will not transfer to the newco either

Now that is a statement that can be made and never disproved.

23 Jun 2012 10:11:14
8 More to leave in the next 24 - 48hrs! dreading to think who they are!

And Green looking at trying to accept the 12 month transfer ban! Which was overturned.
Lord Carloway will not undermine his own position by giving Rangers anything less than one year suspension.

Green as well as WHYTE are well known venture capitalists and asset strippers, google their history, the saddest thing in all this is Murray started this ball rolling.

Desperate times require desperate measures. Take stock of what we have and build on that. Young lads with what could be boundless enthusiasm but little experience. A realistic but attractive future if they are willing to stick with the club. Broadcast the fact that the newco is leaving behind the dreadful bigots and all that turned so many peope against RFC. Try a charm offensive. Now that was NOT the old Rangers way and probably why their are so very few friedly faces looking at us.