Rangers Rumours Archive June 24 2012

 

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24 Jun 2012 23:08:06
Just been confirmed on the Hibs website, voting no for the newco

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Petrie was first SPL Chair to declair that sporting integrity trumped short term money.

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Dundee Utd, Hibs, hearts, Celtic, Aberdeen, Motherwell, there's six straight away.
Ross county will vote strategically no to let Dundee in, so that Dundee get relegated next year and not RC.
St Mirren fans didn't like the idea of rangers directors shutting them down. Vote no.

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24 Jun 2012 23:04:23
Why are we bothering with the charade of voting on the newco,5 clubs have already stated their intention to vote no.So there we have it,no spl,now,can we please determine which league the newco Rangers will play in,sort out season tickets,to support Rangers ( real fans),and fixtures,we can then pay our dues,get back our respect,and move forward,instead of this death of a thousand swords performance.SPL SFL,Mr Green,sort it out,PLEASE,I Dont do walking away.rant over.Always a Ranger,even a newco.

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"pay or dues" how you planning on doing that? owe hearts £800 000'

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How about the Glasgow Saturday morning amateur league. They could play at Glasgow green, that would fit with the lets start again view

Grout

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The REAL fans as you call yourself are a reason we are in this mess, when people spoke out against Mr whyte, the REAL fans said give him a chance, there is being a REAL fan and just being deluded, green is another whyte, no one should support this crook.

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Playing by the rules - which Green flung in the face of the transfer ban - newco does no meet the standards for entry to even 3rd Div. One of the original panel members was chairman of Spartans. They do meet the criteria. Bet he has had a few chats with his lawyers.

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Rangers (real fans) - If the Club (i.e. Rangers that has just died, the one established in 1872, the one that won all the trophies), how you fans of the newco criticise fans of the oldco for not following them, as they are two separate Clubs. The newco isn’t Rangers FC, it’s a fake, a poor remake, with no history, by the looks of things no players. I would be delighted if someone could point out how they are linked. Is it because Green bought the assets, this doesn’t make it Rangers, as the badge etc will all have to be different, just asked any Airdrieonian fan, as Airdrie Utd are not them!!

JS

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Well said mate but to e honest the newco vote has been a non issue for weeks now. Only the MSM seem to be obsessed with it recently!

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The real fans ,the fans who will follow Rangers in its next incarnation,dont lecture me on the issues as they stand,my point is,there will still be thousands of Rangers fans who will,given time,information and a bit of belief,follow the( New) Rangers,because no matter what ,Rangers is our team of choice,our team,not the press,so stop spitting the dummy out.It is hard enough putting up with the press,other club chairmen and every tom dick or harry having a pop,without Rangers fans doing the same,one love,one club (possibly) RANGERS.

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24 Jun 2012 22:45:40
HIBS have confirmed they will vote no to newco

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24 Jun 2012 21:40:40
Is there any word on the fox TV in America deal that was spoke about?

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Your kidding, we don't have a name, a team a league to play in, seriously get a grip

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Is there a psychiatrist in the house

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What are Fox proposing? making a soap opera out of the Ranger Story. Well I think we already have that....

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Yes, there are plans to make a sequel to " A shot at Glory ":
Ally takes over as coach from Robert Duval and transforms Rangers into Kilnockie, I think its based on a true story.

Sorry gers fans....Anorak.

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It would be appropriate because as we all know a fox like many associated with the 'oldco' are often very sly creatures.

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Don't be so harsh on the OP lads as he might be getting confused between covering newco's games and the rights to this whole sorry saga which could net fox millions! I would pay to watch it:)

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24 Jun 2012 21:33:13
Here's a thought...

Given that it looks more than likely that the bulk of the more senior players in the squad are going to oppose any transfer to the newco & leave the club does this not present an opportunity for newco Rangers to approach Scottish footballing authorities & say no thanks to being placed in the 1st division? It would appear that the majority of SPL teams are desperate to nail us however it's to be done in such a way that suits their fiscal interests in that by placing the Gers in the 1st we'll bounce back after a season & they can make money off us again but meantime bring back the Glasgow Cup to save the collapse of TV deals etc?

I would be more than comfortable saying no thanks, head for the 3rd div, adjust season ticket prices accordingly, blood new young talent making significant savings on wages, putting money into the lower ebbs of Scottish football & restore some pride by trying to work our way back to the SPL.

If Rangers presented this on July 4th it would be interesting to see the reaction because whilst Hearts, Hibs, Dundee UTD etc are dying to stick the boot in these teams, whether they like it or not, need Rangers!

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We would say see ya, and 4 other honest teams are ahead of newclub rangers 2012.

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They do not need Rangers. Hibs were relegated a few years back, they didnt need Rangers that season.

Joeshmo1888

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I've been advocating this from the start.
Forget SKY,the SPL,1st Div, England,Glasgow Cup etc etc etc
We MUST start again in the 3rd and build again over the next few years.

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Don't rangers owe most or all of those teams money? Maybe not a case of sticking boot in rather wanting what is rightfully theirs

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If yous are are that keen on 3rd division then why are yous threatening a boycott to every club that votes against it ?? why dont you threaten to boycott ibrox and force green to withdraw the application ?? because your talking rubbish "WE WILL PUT MONEY INTO LOWER LEAGUE " ?? you cant put money into yourselves thats why you where liquidated now your acting as thou your the cash machine of scottish football go and pay your electricity bill before you start talking about money

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You need to understand its not rangers - raners as we all knew are dead - newco is just that with no football history ore financial account.

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This is what happens when greed ran our club liquidation players leaving power struggles fans kept in the dark uncertainty i can see why other supporters are unhappy ok we were not to blame but we should have had alarm bells ringing when we were spending millions we were under the illusion that sdm was pumping in millions we were like gulluible puppets we were warned by other fans we ignored we were fed the cw billionaire lie promised a cva by green nothing has worked out to plan fed lies over the last couple of years at times it been shambolic in my heart i dont think i could follow the newco its just not the same its unorganised and fear it wont be the same old rangers any thoughts fellow bears

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Dear oh dear I thought all the delusional had seen the light. None of the clubs saying no to newco would be worried.

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Great post - until the last 'need us' comment. Scottish football has to find a way through this and a gerry-mandered Servco in the top flight or a fudge restructuring is not the answer. Gers must start again from the 3rd (like most RFC fans want) and other clubs must find a way to adjust. Anything else is the death of Scottish football. Please, please stop all this 'you need us' self centred rubbish and start playing the long game...it's the only way for the game as a whole to survive. Without us 'diddly team' supporters you don't have a league to play in. In the long run you will re-rise to the top anyway so take it on the chin, put the sport first and stop blaming everyone else.

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You are basing the spl needs rangers on the OLD RANGERS with their multi million pound players attracting big crowds ..take a look in the next couple of days and just realise what you have to offer any league...almost nothing....you are a spent force..unfortunate but thats life..realise it will take something like 4 years for you to get anywhere and thats if investment comes in...but even SKY will eventually see whats happening and that NEWCO does not have anything tangeable to offer Scottish football and will either cut their cloth to suit or pull out; either way Scottish football will survive in some shape or form...so stop blaming all and sundry and accept you WERE important ...you WERE big fish in a small pond...you WERE needed by smaller clubs but with few players and reduced finances you are more impotent than important....I applaud your true fans for wishing to go to Div3 and play your way back to the top league but threats ,blame and boycotts have alienated you to an extent that no one cares anymore and just wants an end to this comedy charade....JohnnyG..no hate just opinions and fed up with the whole mess Rangers have put themselves and everybody else in.................

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Sorry mate but we do not need tax dodging,double contract teams in league. i'm a hearts fan and my team has existed for 134 yr. we will continue to exist with our original history without "rangers" in the spl

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OP are you for real. If sevco go to 3rd division and adjust season ticket prices and sell a few thousand...... how can they pay for murray park, fix ibrox etc. Sevco would not be financially viable in 3rd division. I'm sorry but it will be nothing short of a miracle if supporters of the former Rangers have anything to support next season. No players, no league no registration and no income...... anyone smell coffee?

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How do you know we will get back in to the 3rd?

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That's good. Choose your own punishment. Very humble and considerate. Thanks, but fact is, it's not for you to choose, though if Doncaster had his way....gawd.....he's ugly!

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No rangers.. No sky money.. No large support to travelling stadiums and most teams will really feel it in their pockets.. I say third division here we come.. Plus it will be interesting to see what effect this has on Celtic.. Can't see players wanting to come and play in a league where only one team will compete

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NEED RANGERS ?? didnt seem to bother you too much when you and your neighbours both wanted to f##k off and play in england !!

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The views of many fans are admirable, but there is no way that green is going to do as many fans are suggesting and voluntarily go to SFL3. That's not in his business plan. He's and his backers are in this for money and that won't happen by going to the bottom league. Instead, Green will cling to any hope of getting into the SPL and if that fails, as it seems it will, he'll fight to get an SFL1 place or else he'll exercise the apparent clause in the purchase agreement about playing in the competitions Rangers used to play in and sell up. Whether that would be to others or sell off the assets, I don't know.
Al

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Can't really say we'll bounce back after 1 season in 1st division and they will fill their pockets again, i guarantee 1st season back in SPL there will be an away boycott against all the clubs who voted no anyways.

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If players won't want to play for Celtic because the league would be uncompetitive, how will Rangers attract players as your planned three year hop, skip and jump through the SFL will be as equally competitive?

Celtic will attract players with wages, assured win bonuses and European football.

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No spl no sky deal a third of the price season tickets no big crowds turning up at ibrox youll be lucky to sell over 10000 and your players are already walking away the newco will really feel it in their pockets i say third division their you go ... plus it will be interesting to see how this effects the newco cant see players wanting to come and play in a 3rd division league where no team has anything worth competing for

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Wow just as I had eventually stopped gloating at Engerland, the laughs keep on coming on this site. Why oh why can you ' the respectable..non glory hunting..fans ' finally see what all this bickering is doing..making a laughing stock of Scottish Football and Rangers in particular. Ally said his players were cheating the fans!! my flabber has never been so ghasted! Then we have some numpties on here saying we will go into the 1st..and they will have you lot? Please end all this crap, accept 3rd division, get rid of players you clearly can not afford, start again and maybe you will attain credibility again. The whole SPL is not gainst Rangers..they are against blatant cheating which when it comes down to it..no Rangers Fan can excuse. You have won all these trophies because you employed better players than which you should have, all down to the shady deals from certain people. Please end this now, get over it...The rest of the SPl needs to move on and plan for 2012/13.

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To last post. Why would players want to compete against two "bigger" clubs but not when there is only one? Celtic lose extra TV money which is shared round all and everybody has a chance on merit. Or ar Celtic going to buy all opponents better players and put them on the bench just to stifle the rest?

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Rangers( newco) could not afford to stay at Ibrox starting from Div 3, their turnover would be too small. 3 years out of the top level may be a bridge too far for a viable business.

Anorak.

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Basically its irrelevant if SPL say yes or no. Rangers are stuffed. No players, Arguments about who owns the assets (forthcoming watch this space). Non-transpart ownership of the club. a £15million per annum short fall. Arguements about who owns the ticket money (watch this space). Saying that Scottish Football needs Rangers is like saying Scottish Manufacturing needs a car plant at Linwood or a Steel works at Ravenscraig. Disaster or not this the reallity.

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A boycoy against those who voted against you, get real, you cheated, take the punishment, i'm sure if it was any other team you would have campainged to put them in the third straight away.... If thats your attitude then i seriously hope that your punnishment is worse than the powers that be are looking at just now. we diddy teams like us should unite to hope you get at least a years ban then start in the third assuming no other teams want in. Sporting Integrity would agree with me!

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At this rate Rangers fans will need a spread sheet of those they want to boycott.

Anorak.

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The rest of the SPl needs to move on and plan for 2012/13. ?? eh we have still got the small matter of double contracts and the stripping of titles to get throu first ?? and if the newco fans want to look at teams to boycott start boycotting ibrox because they are the only ones who " let you down "

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Dundee UTD are my team, yes we (and the other 10 non EBT SPL members) are loving it. Bad karma for the Gers for trying to kill 5 teams (Brechin, Albion, Stenny, Berwick and another) in 1064. GIRUY.

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24 Jun 2012 20:47:28
well ive posted on here many times season ticket holder for over twenty years so sad to see whats going on now the players walk but here is something that cheered me up today well done to rangers u15 girls who beat falkirk in league cuo final my daughter plays for them and may i add all have transfered over to newco "THEY DONT DO WALKING AWAY" well done girls

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Well done girls

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Well done!
Tam-Sir 1873

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At the rate the first team is deserting they may have to be the first team, well done by the way on the success .

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Well done to your daughter.
Gaz

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Sir whilst I wish to congratulate your daughter and her team on their success I feel that your statement of "they don't do walking away" to be unfair.
It's unlikely that a team of U15 girls would have families to support and mortages to pay whether in Govan or not.

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24 Jun 2012 20:14:41
Players leaving have to get their lawyers letters to ibrox before close of business Wednesday as salaries hit bank accounts at midnight.
The good news is that we should know the complete damage by Wednesday evening. And know who we've got going forward.
I really can't see us even buying a one million pound player for 3 years.
I also think minimum 50% redundancies in July.

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The 50% redundancies figure is plausible.
Remember D & P could have done that in February ifs they wanted to.

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Touch of the King's shilling there!

Just because you transfer money into someone's bank account it doesn't mean they have accepted the TUPE terms!

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You did not buy players for years you stole them rapid hearts just for starters

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@2 yes, players only need to send the money back whence it came.

Green has a nerve shouting about contracts. The players have already seen their contracts broken by the club this year and he knew what he was buying into. These players could have walked months ago (and two did) but stayed on for a quarter of their salary.

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Hardly stole, the old co still owed rapid one installment, and lee Wallace payments were all paid on time. Typical ejit doesn't realise that basically every football player sale is based on a payment scheme relating to games played or goals or the team gaining promotion etc etc.

So I take I have stolen my house because I ain't finished paying for it aye?
Leeroy

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24 Jun 2012 18:59:00
AT least 6 more players lawyers letters arriving in mail tomorrow. My mate works at royal mail sorting and there's 6 letters with lawyers headers for ibrox. However, one lawyers office can represent more than one player. :((( {Ed039's Note - Rangers will receive lawyers letters everyday)

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The postie might need a bigger bag !

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Im surprised your mate hasn't mentioned this before. Rangers must have been receiving LOTS of Lawyers' letters for the past while!

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I think if I was sending a letter as important as that I would be sending it by courier to make sure. Maybe even get the junior from the solicitors office to deliver it personally.

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Some lawyers don't have their details on the envelopes or sometimes use blank envelopes for confidentiality. So I guess could be more players walking notes in there. Also privately delivered letters to add.

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Many lawyers don't use Royal Mail - if Rangers have a firm representing them they'll use the legal mail service used by lawyers firms.

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Looks like the rest of the squad will have to stay on or face legal action by the newco very sad situation

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Only 6? Lol.
Yeah but tomorrow's a special day Ed.
All letters to be in by Wednesday. So Green can stop their June salaries.

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I keep thinking this sorry mess must start winding down at some point, but instead it keeps growing arms and legs. Please, please, make it stop soon, and that's me as a Div 1 team fan. Incidentally, I think that Ed is doing a great job here, so a wee shout out for him/her, and no, we're not related! {Ed001's Note - are you sure you aren't him? Funny how he goes to bed and suddenly there are posts backing him! *suspicious look*}

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24 Jun 2012 17:21:16
Blackburn Rovers are looking at bringing in Steven Whittaker. However, the player is holding out for a move to a Premiership club.

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What premiership ? Faroe islands ?

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Doubt hes good enough for the EPL, far too slow.

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Never happen

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Good luck with that, he is useless, glad he is gone but ragin he was spineless enough to leave without a fee

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What abt naismith do u think hes spineless aswell hes left without a fee aswell so stop blamin 1 player they will all follow aswell there walkin away

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That is so funny,gutted about Aluko and disappointed about"boyhood Rangers fan" naismith and mcCabe but good riddance to Whittaker as he was overpaid even when he took the wage cut.its funny how whittaker and Naismith were apparently against the initial wage cut.

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Boys and girls it's pointless arguing tit for tat with each other , saddly our club died or stoped functioning properly when Murray realised it was costing him to much and floated his second share issue that's when the wheels fell off , I seriously don't care and don't blame any player that wants to walk , I just want to see 11 rangers players on a football pitch next season end of ;)

The airport bear

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24 Jun 2012 13:57:22
Rangers: Steven Naismith & Steven Whittaker oppose newco transfer
24 June 12 13:01

Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker have lodged objections to their transfer from the old Rangers Football Club to the newco.
Their decisions follow a similar move from Sone Aluko and Rhys McCabe.
As part of Charles Green's consortium's asset purchase, players' contracts have been transferred to the new company.
Employment law entitles players to the same terms they had under the old company or allows them to exercise a right not to transfer across.
"It has been an extremely difficult decision to make but I believe it is the right decision," said Scotland forward Naismith.
"As players we were put in a difficult position by the administrators whereby we were asked to take a 75% pay cut to contracts that we entered into in good faith.
"As players we collectively saw this as the only way to get Rangers Football Club out of administration by way of a CVA and thereby protect the staff jobs and the history of the club and give the creditors who had also entered into contracts with Rangers in good faith the best chance of being paid.
"Both Steven and I and our agent fought hard with administrators during negotiations to insert clauses that offered protection to staff and players at the club.
"I am extremely proud of the actions we took but I am disappointed and angry that Rangers Football Club no longer exists in its original form."

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Just read o/p why miss out the part about being able to Tupe over on the same conditions.Ally is right sure if they don't want to stay good luck to them but don't pretend anything else.

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I wonder if these players wanting to leave rangers through not having any respect for mr green have stayed on if Walter smith and his consortium had taken over rangers. I think green should move on as he is making a mockery of our club

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No cause for worry did our mr green not say he had nineteeen transfer targets lined up aye right , that will be another fib mr green then he is about as transparent as a brick wall bb blue

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Eh you no longer have a club and I believe this is exactly the point the former players of your former club are expressing ..... what part of exstinct dont you understand .........??

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Reports nasmith only had one email contact in last few weeks - why has green and Ally not been in regular contact with all players each week ?

is that not the job of the owner and manager - to protect yur assets?

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Good luck to any players leaving

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Predictable that players like these should want to leave and good luck to them wherever they end up.

If there is any kind of bright side to this it's that the wages bill will be slashed by the end of the week and Rangers, though depleted on the field of play, will be a bit more financially stable.

Youngsters are the future now and hopefully many of them will take their chance and prove themselves. I said it before but guys like Rino were never going to sign for us and the idea of anybody at the Euros landing up at Ibrox was absurd.

And think about it guys, if the high wage earners were going to stay on it would only likely have made the newco Rangers going into administration much more likely. BB

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What Rangers Football club doesnt exist in its original form,well i could crush a grape.............timmy tim.

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Green is making a mockery of it? Think that ship sailed months ago.

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I don't blame them. The only info they've had is threats by Green that they'll be in breach of contract of they don't move to newco.

And now all they get is negative spin about them wanting away anyway and betraying supporters. That's really not on. These are not fly-by-night mercenary players. They have enjoyed playing for Rangers and probably would love to stay but they have to look after themselves and with all the uncertainty can we really blame them?

Ally should thank them rather than publically criticise them.

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I can see walter coming back to sort this mess out its a farce

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Rangers football club no longer exists.its over.bb {Ed039's Note - BB, do you actually say anything else?)

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These guys are moving on because they pocket their sign on fees. Also Rangers are not playing in SPL next season or Europe for min 3 years. Rangers could cease playing during next season and no wages to next transfer window. Uncertainty at Rangers. Now poor career choice for any footballer.
No one could have retained them including Smith.

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Whittigher was never worth 25,000 a week anyway , rats deserting the ship , good ridence

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RANGERS Chief Executive Charles Green has insisted he will contest any attempt by players to walk away from Rangers for free.

Green reacted strongly today after both Steven Naismith and Steven Whiittaker held a press conference to annouce they were not transferring to the newco and would be walking away.


Green said: "It is a great pity that certain players have chosen this time to attempt to tear up their contracts and walk away from the Club.

"The Club is facing massive challenges in terms of its league status and the last thing the fans want to see is a dispute between the Club and players.

"However, it appears that is the route several players are choosing. I can assure those players and Clubs who may be interested in signing them that Rangers will seek damages for breach of contract and for inducement to break contracts.

"The SFA has been considering the issue and has issued a preliminary guidance note on registration issues. That note has made it clear that it is open to the Club to challenge the actions of the players. Our lawyers have written to the SFA today intimating that we do challenge the actions of the players and explaining why that is. They have also asked that the SFA confirm how it proposes to resolve the dispute between the players and Club.

"We have no wish to go to court on these matters but the players involved, their agents and clubs who may be pursuing these players should be in no doubt that we will do whatever it takes to protect the Club's interests.

"As Ally McCoist said yesterday the players should be honest about their intentions. When the players agreed to take wage cuts earlier this year they renegotiated their contracts to allow them to leave for reduced values. That was a sensible quid pro quo and meant that the Club would still get some transfer value for them should they leave.

"What is happening now is that the players want to leave for nothing, thereby denying the Club any transfer value at all. At the same time, players who are ready to breach their contracts want to secure handsome signing on fees for other clubs, while Rangers get nothing.

"I have heard criticism from one of the players today that I had not been in contact. That is surprising since his agent was in my office on Friday for a meeting with both me and the Manager.

"I have spoken to the Rangers staff now on a number of occasions and at staff meetings. No players were present at these meetings and they have all been on holiday.

"The players' actions are all the more breathtaking given that that virtually everyone else employed at the Club has got on with the job since the CVA was refused and a new company had to be formed. Of course, they had concerns but after asking all the relevant questions it was business as usual. That applies to the groundsmen, the tea ladies, the office staff and everyone else who make Rangers tick. Rangers is still Rangers and players, above all, should know that."

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I am a Celtic fan so no doubt there wil be the usual "stick to your own page replies". I am interested in what happens to Rangers just as Rangers fans would be if it was Celtic in the same situation. I have a few points:

1. "I think Green should move on as he is making a mockery of our club" - Are you for real mate? Green was the only guy who put up any money when it mattered. Walter Smith? I'd be royally pis@ed off at Walter after his back door attempt, when Green calls his bluff and asks him to join him, he walks! True Legend.
2. Duff & Phelps - less said about this debacle the better, The only ones out of the administration process who will make any money.
3. The Players - presumably they will be losing the deferrals that they took as the club has since been liquidated, they will be well annoyed but will get it back ten fold as free agents. Do you blame them, if your company did that what would you do?
4. I like a lot of Celtic fans don't want Rangers to go, there is nothing better than an old firm day from start to finsh (if you win), nothing will compare to this.
5. For all SPL chairmen it is rock and hard place, you must see that. They weigh up integrity with finance. Boycotts are not the right thing to do, from either side of OF.

Victorsgonnaegetyou {Ed039's Note - Good post)

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Same playes who didn't want to take a pay cut until last minute because they had "car finance to pay for".

good riddance, let the kids come through.

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It's not green making a mockery of the club. Everyone can understand players wanting to leave especially if we go to the third division. This is just opportunism at its worst. Frankly nobody should be surprised at Whitaker however, most Rangers fans will be shocked at Naismiths actions. What did Rangers and its fans do when he had terrible injury problems? He has thrown all that back in the fans faces!

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Ed..Are the contracts offered the reduced payment ones that the admins set up . {Ed039's Note - No the contracts that will be "transferred" are on full pay and terms and conditions, but lets face it, they are only going to be transferred to be sold for a transfer fee to fill the gap in required financing)

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Wot happening to the new strip and badge? Any bears know. curious bear

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Ally is having a go at everybody these days, i bet now he wished he didnt mention "we don't do walking away" he's the only one who can't, Green will put him out of his misery soon tho :)

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The players should be very proud of themselves for taking the big paycuts. I am sure all the Rangers office staff, ground staff, back room staff etc will be most grateful that their generosity which allowed them a few more pay packets. Now through the players blinkered greed, their former staff colleages will no doubt lose their jobs as the selfish players put the final nail in the coffin. Thank you and good night.

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Mega disappointed in naismith out injured collecting wages before cut so called rangers fan I for one will renew season ticket and support this club through good and bad not like these so called players who love the club better off with out them both only in it for the money.wrtp

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1. charles green has to go
2. never mind walter smith and the ebt buisiness
3. if he and jim mccoll were serious about buying rangers even though it was to late then come back with the bid charles green wants.
4. we are doomed if he dosen't i bet in 2 weeks murray park' ibrox' and albion car park will be sold to developers.
5. 4th of july vote means nothing now we wont get back in spl and there will be no club to need to vote back in anyway.
6. whyte is still pulling the strings you can bet your house on it.
7. no players no club no money no owner no stadium. thats what will happen unless walter mccoll and co come back to table soon.

absolutely raging that naisy is going i dont blame him i blame green whyte and murray.


and before you slate me i accept we need to be punished and if it was 3rd division so be it we need to be punished but we deserve an owner who cares about the fans players and foremost ibrox staff not someone looking for a quick buck.

and i have to ask fellow gers fans if your gutted by this where are you certainly not outside ibrox. actions speak louder than words and by that i don't mean breaking the law i mean peaceful protests.

absolutely sick.

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Hang your heads in shame boys. Steven N rangers stood by you last season through your rehabilitation. Steven W rangers stood by you last season while you had your poorest season. Please do not embarass yourselves with this I am a life long rangers fan rubbish. The fans are not stupid.

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Thanks and Good luck lads. Same to all who understandably do the same.

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To the guy saying these players might not be leaving if Walter's consortium had taken over, that's a possibility but it didn't happen and I think fans should actually be told why the late Knghts didn't think Rangers were worth more than £6 million.

Will they be coming back in? And if so, why did they not come back sooner if there was a chance players like Naismith might stay?

AT the moment I suspect they won't be back in with an improved offer as Ally seems to have aligned himself recently with Green.

Surely though Green would bite anybody's hands off for any sort of bid that would give him a tidy enough profit.

BB (who isn't bb the Celtic supporter)

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It does not matter which consortium takes over, the high earners will go out the door and drastic cuts wil be made.
Rangers could not afford the wage bill when they were in Europe and cheating, there is no way they can carry on regardless.

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Strange support. You blame everyone else, hate all other "diddy" teams, hate sfa, media, don't even get me started on your other obvious hatreds! Now you hate players, ex players and your current manager what a bunch of idiots nothing good could ever come from this level of negative feelings. Karma:) sweet

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What's injury got to do with loyalty? He was injured playing for Rangers FFS.

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I knew i would be tough to keep big stars . i did think start fresh with youth so i am sad about mccabe and aluko.

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Before yous chase green out the door ask yourself this ... what do you think would change ?? the spl clubs would still vote you out the opposing fans would still be against yous getting off lightly you would still have the european ban the players contracts would still be up for debate and the same players would still be unsure of where they'll be playing next year none of this is his doing so what do you think will be achieved

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24 Jun 2012 12:52:21
naismith and whittaker reject newco

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Pressure on Green now, more will follow. Shaping up for another cataclysmic week.

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Have to say I don't blame them, Green has handled this whole affair abysmally. Should have spoken to the players ages ago before they went on holiday

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Absolutely disgracefull.. Rangers stood by Naismith through his injuries and stood by Whittaker during his poor form last season..Boyhood fans eh? Hang their heads in shame

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Just seen this on SSN, afraid to say fellow bears this is grim.

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Every international player will reject the newco transfer of contracts. The majority of the players took huge salary cuts to try and help Rangers stay out administration......this wasn't enough. Third division football cannot offer anything to international ambitious players. Sorry lads but Rangers are not Rangers anymore.

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Rangers players Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker have objected to the transfer of their contracts to the newco club, issuing statements through their lawyers claiming they are now free agents.
Rangers claim the transfer of all player contracts have already taken place, warning on Saturday night that any players disputing the move could face legal action in the wake of reported objections from Rhys McCabe and Sone Aluko.
But today lawyers acting for Scotland internationals Naismith and Whittaker said their clients would not report for training with Rangers and are seeking new clubs.

A statement from Simon Catto of HBJ Gateley said: 'Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker are formally intimating their objection to becoming employed by the transferee in accordance with Regulations 4(7) and 4(9) of the TUPE Regulations.
'Accordingly, Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker will not be attending for training or any other meeting next week and consider themselves to be under no contractual obligations to any party.
'They consider they are not employed by any party and are free to consider any employment options they wish.'

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Explain why is it disgraceful ?
Naismith is a lifelong Rangers fan. His club don't exist anymore so he can go where he wants.

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Meltdown.
Padlocks and chains on the gates.
Everyone will walk after Ally's tirade. Who want to work for another year with Ally?
Youngsters will leave also.

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Rangers don't exist now so why would guys who could play premiership/championship and have international places to protect potentially play in div 3 in scotland.

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Rangers fans don't walk away... Either should the players. Whittaker is not good enuf to play in England's top flight, and spl is rubbish... Full stop

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Rangers fans probably think this counts as punishment.

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McCabe, Aluko, Naismith and Whittaker confirmed.
At least Lafferty rumoured to go tomorrow.
It's over; no team, no money, no credit facility, no league, no ticket money, no Europe, no future, no hope, no chance,......

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Whittaker is a boyhood Jambo.

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I find this unbelievable!

Naismith should remember who stood by him through his injury and continued to pay him £28k a week through the majority of it. Loyal players my arse!!

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We cant afford the players this is the reality, many more to follow, I expect 8 first team at best

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Naismith will be missed Whittaker can be easily replaced he is overpaid and overrated we need to let the dust settle

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Nasimith was saying he would stay no matter what happened get him tae feck injury prone an whittaker is the worst right back i ave ever seen an that includes broadfoot

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Look the players have a right to move on.Yeah naismith had inj and so on they did there best for the club and most of the players took 75 per cent wage cuts thinking that would take the club out of administration.Dnt blame the players blame Murray Whyte and Green

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The high earners sacrificed their wages to save Rangers, but it wasn't to be.

They cannot be expected to sacrifice their transfer value to fund a newco that patently cannot afford anddoes not wish their services. Why be loyal to a new club that intends to sell you?

Anorak.

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The only disgrace in this sorry fiasco is that you are still sticking your head in the sand on a daily basis. What bit of NEWCO is it you fail to understand and we will try and assist you grasp it.
These players have a relatively short time in the game. They are hardly going to commit to a new club with STILL massive uncertainty surrounding its future.
Don't be surprised when this NEWCO goes into administration next.

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Greens master plan unravels....

his legal advise is as good for nothing....

no players, no league to play in, no money, no sponsor, no hope.

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Surely now the only chance for Green and his "Consortium" to make any money from this, is to sell to Walter and his people McColl and Parks, who truly only have the Bears best interests at heart. The question is would players sign for them on Free transfers and also can we not play anywhere else if Ibrox is not available. Celtic played at hampden, so why not start up as a new club with walter and rent stadium until we can afford to buy with the fans owning the club.

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Sad what has happened up at Rangers but hope Everton sign Naismith and Whittaker as both are highly regarded off Jelavic, Any stories from Scotland anyone.

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Noticed Whittaker's comment not moving to Sevco !!! No loss to us anyway. Naismith, Davis & McGregor will be a real blow.

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Lets be honest, the players already playing in the 3rd Div don't really want to play there - no one does, so why should the better players throw away their careers by agreeing to do so? Out of loyalty ? I don't think so, not in this day and age - money talks and it talks a lot louder away from Rangers.Loyalty now comes in the form of fans only, we are the ones that need to remain.Players, managers, owners etc etc all come and go - WE REMAIN. Its up to us to provide the loyalty.

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Sevco is not Rangers, this is no disgrace to rangers. Rangers is finished. The flood gates will open this week and Sevco will be lucky to be able to produce a team capable of winning div 3

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It is disgraceful...rangers are still a club. If he was a rangers fan he wouldnt walk away. Its all about money...badge kissing is great until they get offered better money. We will still be rangers as fiorentina are still fiorentina despite the change of a trading name ffs. Cany believ gers fans whi bck these players! Iv had a season ticket for 12 years and have contributed to there wages. They want to shaft the fans fair enough...but i am more than entirled to call them a disgrace. Its fans like me that mske rangers...no money grabbing players who claim to be fans. We will rise again it will just take a few years...sadly a lirrle longer now our best players are jumping ship. Although not a newco i can mind when juve got relegated for cheating...it was the REAL fans like buffon, del piero, etc that stayed and fought for the club they love and brung them back to the top...even although they coulda went to top clubs for top wages.

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The club do still exist. goverment changes over every few years. does that mean what law and rules the last lot made dosent count? graeme`

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Disgracefull for naisy after two long term injuries and the club standing by him,that's why disgracefull showing yourr colours now guys green for money good ridence.

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Hes on his way to everton

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Club went bust, owing many millions of pounds, many seem to think we can just take the good stuff (Ibrox, Training Ground, Players, Histrory), and leave all the bad stuff behind, it doesn't work like that i'm afraid.

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With respect to the person who said disgraceful, why do you say this ? If RFC had acted properly then they would have been insured for players being injured and therefore no financial hit - but guess what this is RFC, at that time not in admin, and this is what the club actually deserve - for the players to leave says a lot guys. WATP fans should get a grip of reality.

Diamond Geezer

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"Naismith should remember who stood by him through his injury and continued to pay him £28k a week through the majority of it. Loyal players my arse!"

...erm... that'll be the creditors that RFC stiffed, including us taxpayers that were paying hin £28K a week... not the club, turns out... so what is your point caller? Why should you benefit from a contract that others have been forced to honour for you?
When will the penny actually drop with you guys??

Sorry, but look:
I watched your team beating my team (Caley) 4-1 a couple of months back, knowing full well that your guys were earning 10x what mine were, and yet I was effectively paying both sets of wages... Oh... and turns out that tax -at that time - was only being handed over by Caley players?

And without the merest hint of repentance or shame from anyone associated with your club, - fans, management, board - just defiance and blame directed to everyone else?

Well you lost any sympathy then. And you haven't earned any back yet!

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This is not a case of they don't want to play in the 3rd division, we all know they would have been sold to get off the wage bill.
All this does is stop us recieving a transfer fee!

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"Rangers fans don't walk away... Either should the players."
Don't here of too many fans renewing their season tickets.

"Whittaker is not good enuf to play in England's top flight"
But is he too good to play in SFL3?

"and spl is rubbish"
Will you still be saying that if your team is allowed in or is eventually promoted there? Or are you one of these ones with some bizarre scheme to get a place in the English leagues?
Al

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Good luck to the players they are not under contract sad bear

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Good luck lads thanks for taking the 75 percent wage cut to save jobs its a newco you dont owe any loyalty to sevco sad ger

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"The club do still exist. goverment changes over every few years. does that mean what law and rules the last lot made dosent count? graeme"

What planet are you on? Yes Governments change and Governments from different parties have in the main totally differing views, policies, values and identities. The club DOES NOT exist, what part of the club you know still exists? The history ? NO The tradition ? NO The trophies ? NO The players ? soon to be NO All that is left is a stadium and fans, that is not a club. It's gone, all gone and the quicker folk realise this the bettter!

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Maybe what these players need to remember is what team it was that gave them the chance to win trophies and play in Europe, yet when the going gets tough they jump ship. I know it has been hard but these guys are well paid and well looked after and when they need to step up to the plate they are found sadly lacking.

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See how long they last in england, good ridence.

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Rangers fans who doubt Whittaker are wrong. the lad is decent. great attitude. Plays 100% every game. better in midfield. Not a great defender but good going forward. Will play better with better players be good in the Championship in England .better standard than Gers ! Good luck, son

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Rangers did not pay naismiths wages while he was injured the insurance would have did that.

Briggs

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This is not a case of they don't want to play in the 3rd division, we all know they would have been sold to get off the wage bill.
All this does is stop us recieving a transfer fee!

Good grief!! What does it take to get the message through to you guys? 'US' is dead, gone , extinct, passed to another spiritual level. All this really does is stop Green getting a transfer fee that he can trouser!!

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These two lads have been a credit to the old club i wish them all the best in the future you cant force players to play it is a new company the old rangers fc was liquided sadly hope the other players dont get bullied and leave with bad feeling this is what happens to clubs who cannot pay their way as a rangers fan of old im deeply sadened by this sorry mess

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24 Jun 2012 01:25:30
Rhys mccabe and sone aloke have
been offered the same deals they
where on. Ie the reduced salary contract.
Rhys will not play in 3rd div and will not
sign this deal agent and Rhys met with rangers on Friday.
HE WANTS TO STAY
Blackpool in talks with his agent

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Rangers have just confirmed steven naismith and steven whittaker to move to new clubs the players have rejected the chance to join the new co this is serious serious news especially since naismith is one of the former clubs best players and is worth upwards of 5 million quid. the end is nigh and there will be no more newco players left in the next few days so the rangers football club will be forced back into administration which means green will sell ibrox murray park and also the albion car park to developers so there will be no need to vote on wether we get back into the spl on the 4th july. i can huge protest outside ibrox in coming 24 hours trying to force green to sell up now while he has the chance. or was this his plan all along so there is no players left so no huge wages to pay out meaning he would have to sell ibrox etc. come on rangers fans lets turn out in numbers and force this guy out as soon as possible or there will be no club to support soon. even if it is a newco.

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I'm telling you there's 3D models in London of a development.

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I had been very critical of Green but when it seemed he had bought the club, I decided it would probably be best if all supporters got behind him.

The problem is if he is now forced out will anybody want to buy Rangers?

Obviously the Walter Smith consortium's bizarre late bid ended strangely and they walked away without much of an explanation.

Why? These guys reputedly have serious money but don't seem at all inclined to make another offer to a man who seems desperate, who hasn't even managed to open a proper bank account for the new Rangers and obviously has only a fraction of the money he pretended his consortium had and would presumably consider any sensible bid.

Why has Ally so closely aligned himself with Green in recent days seemingly against the players.

Does Ally maybe now know that Green really is the only show in town?

Desperately worried at events at Ibrox. BB

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There is a strong possibility that Rangers will not be able to afford to maintain its fixed assets. No Europe, no SKY and no SPL = not enough fans to pay the bills.

Maybe selling Ibrox, MP and the Albion car park is now becoming a commercial necessity. The proceeds can fund the rebirth of a new Rangers in a more viable venue.

Rangers are now in freefall and the only parachute left is the proceeds from the fixed assets.

Anorak.

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Why has Ally so closely aligned himself with Green in recent days seemingly against the players
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mccosit has voicest against the players as they havent had the decency to tell him to his face they are leaving, they have leaked it into the press.

they have stabbed him in the back by doing it this way, (yeh i know its there right to leave and if they want to that fine) but common decency would have said that at least a call to mccoist first would have been the right thing to do,

mccoist deserved better than that from the players he did so much to protect last season,

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To the above....How do you know they didnt let Ally know their intentions???
this is the man who shouted on Rangers TV " we want to know these peoples names" regarding the disciplinery panel when in fact rangers representative at the hearing would have informed him of the names before he made the statement on TV can anything be believed coming out of your club....JohnnyG

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I think Ally has over reacted, in the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make if they tell him first or not ?

Rangers have got real problems to deal with and wasting time on imaginary problems is pointless.

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Its all kicking off now green/mcoist vrs the players if i was a player i would be out of there in a minute cant blame the guys for leaving cutting the players wages disgrace

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Its over bears,can you all see it now.its over.bb

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Why did ally not thank those players for the services to the old club after all they took a 75 percent hit they could have said no but they stayed on to secure jobs remember this is a ploy to get a transfer out of these players do the right thing ally wish them all the best gutted bear

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23 Jun 2012 23:59:40
Its div 3.....

Guy i work with is involved with a div 3 club, theyve been made aware that its likely.

In a year weve gone from the top to the bottom!

I feel ill

Id rather have fought the fight fair than have this feeling, let down by murray et all. Sad to say but the rangers i knew is dead. Time to start again i spose.

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A Know mate HURTIN so much

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You have 20 seconds left cinderella then you will realise it was only a nightmare. Rangers really are alive.

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Division 1 it will be

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From 2nd top to bottom.

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There's a torrid little conspiracy in the press this morning to get Rangers into div1. The SFA, SPL and SFL management have had their weekend summit.
Is summit up?
Unfortunately for them the sfl1 clubs will not acquiesce to their plotting for the benefit of Rangers. Any bribes offered to sfl1 clubs, they will get anyway through restructuring.
The football authorities using McLeish's recommendations for restructuring as bribes to sfl1 for the benefit of Rangers is really low.
Also don't they understand that there's smarter people out here than anyone who has ever been employed in football or owned a team?

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Total garbage my dads involved with a div 3 team and he's heard nothing.

Campsie bear

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Rangers in the 1st Div will be in complete disarray and struggle to get out of it with all the better players leaving.We should just voluntarily go to the 3rd Div and build from there with players we have left.

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To the tosser who wrote about conspiracy, get something right it is the SPL clubs who want RFC in first division, most genuine bears will accept div 3 as punishment --the spl chairman can,t afford rfc to be out of SPL for more than one year, so they are the ones trying to cover there own backs

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Well let's think about what SHOULD have happened.

Rangers SHOULD have managed finances better, as well as paying tax. To do this, Rangers SHOULD have reduced their wage bill starting a few years ago. Consequently Rangers SHOULD still be playing in the SPL but perhaps not finishing in the top 2 (note that Celtic managed to stay top 2 with similar income).

In short, Rangers played a double-or-quits game and lost. Simples.

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When was the last time Rangers fought a "fair fight?" Tax dodging and financial doping are hardly fair. This is you reaping what you sowed.

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23 Jun 2012 22:50:10
All players including McCabe are waiting to see what happens regarding wages cuz all players agents are telling them to wait to see what kind of financial backing green has and rangers fc plc have not been liquidated yet as there was problems with the official paperwork watch this space

Source r mccabes pals mum on train from Edinburgh on sat nyt

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Mcabes dugs budgies dinner tell't u that! Al drink to that?

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Defo true, I always believe people on trains on a Saturday night haha

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Ally in currant bun disparaging the players. I don't think he can come back from this.
McCabe, Aluko and Lafferty named now as leaving.

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Its hard to say how many rangers rebel players will go this could be the start fellow bears very grim news

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Only one man has stayed to his word and thats ally mcoist give the man some respect

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Well posted mate. His pal's mum.....few better sources than a wee glesga wummin. Respect tae yi man.

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Forgot to mention mccabes pals mum was wrecked

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This is why they've brought in the drinks ban on trains!

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What a load of nonsense. Delay I'm paperwork? Honestly!

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Aluko had to pay half his own transfer fee to go to Old Rangers, i doubt they told him the mess they were in when he handed over his cash, Aluko has been lied to and should challenge McCoist to a square-go. {Ed039's Note - Not a fight I would be paying to see)

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Is there no a penalty from the SPL/SFA if the wages aren't paid on time? coz Green disnae have any cash.

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Unfortunately you'd have to assume that Green doesn't have much in the way of financial backing.

And I would guess there will be a lot of players walking away before the end of the week & this won't have been helped by Ally's pleas for honesty - the guy who, for instance, told us during the transfer window that Jelvic was injured and might stay at Ibrox - and the threats of legal action from Charles Green, which I'll take with the same large pinch of salt that I took when Duff & Phelps claimed to be sueing BBC Scotland etc etc.

Totally 100% frustrated bear.

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23 Jun 2012 21:53:37
Now we are hearing a lot of players ready to jump ship, some of them including Naismith need to realise they owe Rangers a lot as Rangers paid their wages while on long term injuries, Short memories guys.

Wullie - RFC

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75% of them

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What you have to realise is rangers no longer exist.

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The players owe Newco nothing. These players took 75% pay cuts to try to save Rangers. Rangers didn't survive so the players have done all that could have been asked of them and should now be allowed to move on without any ill will.

Do you really think that international class players such as Naismith and McGregor should have to play in the lower leagues? They have done their bits and the career of a footballer is a short one.

Mac

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No wonder ally is unhappy hes stayed on

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If there are anyone who should be commended for their loyalty to the old RFC its the players. What they do now is without comment, good luck to them all whatever they decide to do.

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The players did their bit taking the pay cut , the team they all signed for will soon not exist, I for one have no problem with any player who walks away

Frustrated bear

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I'm pretty sure that players with long-term injuries would have their wages covered (at least partially) by insurance. Plus, they agreed to the wage deferrals to try and help our financial situation. They owe the club nothing, it wasn't the players that got us into this mess.

I'd love the likes of McGregor and Naismith to stay. But seriously, do you expect full internationals to hang around the lower leagues for at least 3 years? The amount of revenue we will get down there would make paying there wages crippling to the newco's finances.

Time for (another) reality check.

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Its all over,cant newco fans see this.there is nothing left.bb

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Well said Mac, its simple really.

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The insurance company paid naismiths wages and rangers only paid him 75% of them . So good luck to him he owes rangers nothing I'm afraid .

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If they owe the newco nothing then why mention 75% wages coz with newco they are on full wages MAC

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Exactly as the poster above says, the players owe seven nothing, and Mccoist should know this before he comes out and makes his now trademark rant to the press

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Yes short memories....but also short careers.

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I agree with the original post, players with any respect and love for rangers would at least transfer to the newco and then request a transfer if they don't want to play in a lower league.

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Naismith comes from the Kilmarnock area and learned his trade at Rugby Park.Rangers bought him for £2m (them were the days) Green does not want Naismith he just wants to collect the money when he sells him.
Naismith would be well advised to move on quickly and leave this shambles behind.

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Naismith owes you feck all, as his wages will have been covered by the insurance company!

But his employers are no more, and the NewCo as much right to his contract and transfer fee as you and I do

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Yeah. Naismith got injured playing for rangers did he not. If boot was on other foot and the player didn't live up to expectation he'd be shipped out without a care. There is very little loyalty in football these days on any side . Also are injured players not paid by insurance company?

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Sick of people saying the players owe the club! if it was a company you worked for would you take a 75% wage cut?, being injured is part of being a sportsman, it happens they get sick pay like most of us do

get a grip willy!

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Now its the players faults duh!

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Every team has to pay wages to injured players

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I fully agree with OP, if these players cared anything for the club they would transfer over

And before you reply the club IS the same club, nothing has changed to the FOOTBALL club, only the company that administers it.

Also my views on the other posters points are :-

I agree that international class players, or even potential international class players, will not want or be expected to play in lower divisions, but I would expect them to show a bit of loyalty, transfer over, then be sold for a fee

On the 75% cut they took, and I know this seems harsh, but they only took that so that 50% of them never got he bullet by the administrators. it was their proposal made to suit them, although I accept the whole sorry mess is none of their doing

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The players owe the club nothing.
totall disgrace trying to hold onto players like this. Green should be seen for what he really is here.
nothing more than Shambolic

Andy

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Insurance covers injured players wages.

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If they paid the insurance premium that is?

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Green threatening "breach of contract" if other teams try to recruit current rangers players.... ? which contracts is he talking about.... ?

The orginal rangers contracts are now null and void - newco contracts only come into force if old rangers choose to accept them

they less likely to accept if green threatening them if they dont ?

why would he not want a team of players on newco contracts, this would cost more as he would have to pay them... is this why ?

he wants no players, so there is £7million saving per year in wages ?

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Naismith took a 75% pay cut clown he ows them nothing

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If players show loyalty and stay but leave for transfer fee - who gets the fee - green.

why should players allow him to have the fee ? they own him no loyalty

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How about a boycott of any club these 'traitors' go to? How dare they look out for themselves and turn their back on an unknown entity without knowing what league, if any, they'll play in next season?

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If insurance company paidNaismiths wages why did he after to agree to a wage deferal ?. As surely the insurance company would have paid. Suspect insurance were not paying his wages. Ally is right in slating the players as he said they did not come @ speak to him first they went straight to lawyers. The decent thing to do would be speak to ally first to let him know you're intentions. Before submitting lawyers letters. I know I would be disappointed with staff who couldn't speak to me first. {Ed001's Note - I wouldn't, because it just doesn't happen. You don't go speak to your boss about a legal issue like this, it would be too easy to end up saying the wrong thing. Which could then lead to a legal issue, as verbal agreements are binding. Ally is just trying to turn the fans against them, he should know better, he was once one himself.}

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Injuries is part of being a professional sportsman

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Wullie-rfc,its over.no rangers,no players,no league,no money,no history and no hope.its over.bb

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How can the contracts be null and void just because it is a newco.The TUPE rules exist so that employees dont get dumped when a company is taken over. There is an obligation in law. If the players had been sacked their well paid lawyers would be running to the courts for breach of contract. They cant have it both ways. Good riddance.

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Who where the playing for when they got these injuries ??

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