Rangers Rumours Archive October 02 2011

 

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02 Oct 2011 21:09:42
Gers in for Bobby Zamora in January.

Believable12 Unbelievable57

Lol. Aye thats really gonna happen. Choob.

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Dont need him. season finished. McCoist could score against Loovens, maj, mulgrew, foster and kelvin hall. Gordon Ramsay would be a cheaper option to prepare the winners dinner. so easy for fat sally am lovin it. sacked for xmas yer havin a laff

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Is there a reason the editors diny put up all the replys? {Ed002's Note - I assume if your reply was anything like your next post it was cut for being a stream of foul language.}

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Load of pish. Our financial situation we couldn't afford the wage he would be looking for. Why would he want to come to Ibrox anyway, certainly no for European football. Let's keep bringing the youngsters through and justify Murray Park instead of wasting money on players who don't understand what it means to be a bluenose. We Are The People.

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If Jelavic goes then we will need a replacement. This guy would be as good as any. Not sure about wages though.

Can you imagine him up against Mulgrew/loovens/Dan the man or the other players they try at centre half?

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He would be great replacemeant for jelavic if he does leave but cant see it he would be lookin at 30k a week easy

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I dont think 30 goals in 4 seaons justifys him for 30k a week or even to put the gers shirt on ... joke

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Its not the way we do business now is it you can pull names out of a hat till the cows come home but it just wont happen...source would have to be whyte or mcoist

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He's on 50k at fulham! Nechance

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This has to stop with zamora ffs the guys no were near as good as jelavic plz stop this daft rumour why would we even want tht guy seriously man

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02 Oct 2011 15:49:45
Yes I know this is a banter page,but we the Rangers support must wake up to this proposed legislation on alleged sectarianism.This bill is anti football and discriminates against football fans.Other supporters have not realised the implications yet as the SNP and police have targeted Rangers fans,but that is their problem.We must contact our MSP,s and put pressure on them to reveal which way they will vote on this legislation.Remember in Scotland Rangers support and people who maybe do not attend matches but sympathise with us is huge,anyone who dismisses this does so at their peril.The SNP have thrown down the gauntlet,what is our response fellow bears.

Believable43 Unbelievable18

My response is don't sing sodding songs you shouldn't.

Sing football songs and noone gets into bother. Sing sectarian crap that has nothing to do with Rangers and you get what you deserve

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My response is don't sing sodding songs you shouldn't.

Sing football songs and noone gets into bother. Sing sectarian crap that has nothing to do with Rangers and you get what you deserve


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Got to agree 100% m8, time the knuckle draggers either tow the line or feck off, they are no longer wanted at Ibrox either by decent supporters or the club

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My response is, stop turning rangers f.c into a political issue........... you are only inviting more attention, just stop singing and chanting the wrong songs !!
leave it in the past, i have overcome so should you m8

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If everyone had stopped singing those songs 10 years ago then we wouldn't be in this position. Don't like all this political guff.
Shut up and support the team, its FOOTBALL!

pappy

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Pls dont go down that road like the tic where everyone is against us.

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To the reply who goes on about singing songs,obviously has all the brains of an easter egg and has no understanding of the proposed legislation.Get an adult to read it for you.

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What's the point of singing songs about stuff that happened a long time ago? It has absolutely feck all to do with the club now, ffs wake up, we have had numerous catholic signings, some of whom went on to captain the club, It's time to sing songs that reflect the clubs glorious past present and hopefuly future - if you want to sign bile - do it in the house

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We dont need to sing anything apart from songs that represent how well we have done in last 4 seasons. Dont spoil the party, celtic r absolute rotten and 4 in a row is coming fast. just hope the big party doesnt clash wae my works xmas night oot.

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03 Oct 2011 00:01:20
If you could please reference the specific point from the legislation to which you have taken offence. It can be found on the Scottish Parliament website here:

www.scottish.parliament.uk/s4/bills/01-offbehfoot/b1s4-introd.pdf

If you add a bit of context, it might help people to grasp what your point actually is.

This victim complex creeping into the stands at Ibrox disturbs me greatly. It echoes of everything that the whole of Scotland has found irritating about the team from across the city - especially in recent times - i.e. everyone is against us, its a conspiracy.

If in fact the Rangers support are being targeted in anyway - which I am not convinced is the case - then surely the way to respond is to prove them all wrong by not singing sectarian songs or behaving inappropriately. This then proves the legislation was not necessary.

I do not want Ibrox to become a political battle ground, and I think those getting so worked up over this need to realise that the only reason the legislation is being proposed is because the songs and behaviour has not gone away.

Whether it is being enforced as rigorously across the city is another issue - as I do feel the moronic element of their support is not being routed out as vehemently as that within ours.

However, I will not shed a tear for any one thrown out the ground at Ibrox, banned or indeed jailed if they continued to behave in a prehistoric manner. There is no place for it. My issue is when enforcement of the legislation could lead to painting an entire support with the same brush rather than routing out the individuals who it should be targeting - i.e. the wrong people could be thrown out of grounds due to it being very difficult to identify those responsible.

One final point - I found the "Al Maghrahi sits at home whilst footy fans are in Jail" banner to be totally ridiculous and over the top - not to mention in poor taste. Get a sense of perspective. That man murdered hundreds and should be punished, but to compare the suffering of those who lost loved ones at Lockerbie with the suffering of some idiotic person who wouldn't stop singing the Billy Boys is embarrassing beyond belief.

We are ten points clear albeit with a game in hand. We should be happy - and we should cheer on the team to four in a row. {Ed001's Note - excellent post, you really should have put a name to it so I could look out for more from you in the future.}

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I am an adult and I can read perfectly well, I can also see behind the smokescreen of wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes on about this legislation.

The plain and simple matter of this legislation, botched and slipshod though it may be, is that if you do not engage in conduct offensive to people of any given religion then the legislation has no impact on you and those making the most noise in protest are doing so because they wish to continue singing songs of hatred and espousing an anti-catholic agenda that has nothing to do with Rangers football club.

You want to harbour bigotted, outmoded beliefs about Catholicism be my guest, just don't do it at Ibrox and don't smear the reputation of Rangers by trying to drum up support from decent Rangers fans

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I agree that we shouldnt sing sectarian songs however i will not hide the fact that i am protestant and british.derrys walls is a magnificant song and not sectarian.i know its not a football song but neither is you will never walk alone.why should we forget our past. british,protestant,proud.

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Some excellent posts. I wish most of the the British public were as passionate about our current state of affairs with the economy, border control and government as you are about singing we may be in a better place if people protested more!!!

However, to feel victimised over singing sectarian songs only highlights how Glasgow Rangers and Scotland need to eradicate this culture. For too long our club has been dragged through the gutter by violent minded thugs who believes they have a right to abuse! For that reason alone it needs to stop.

Having said all that I am also of the opinion that when you pay your money to go and watch football I feel you should be totally aware of what you are "signing up for" I believe 90% if not 100% of those through the turnstiles expect to hear foul and abusive language, grown men screaming in anger often spiteful and hate fuelled and of course songs and flags that represent the often bizarre. If you do not want to be a part of that then you don't go, you support another team that respects your beliefs and welcomes the family.

For me football IS different, from anything else. The people it attracts for season tickets embrace it, they are clearly not offended like some. They have thick skin and the majority walk away afterwards go home and live a perfectly normal life no hate no abuse, just normality.

Like in everything though it's a minority who dictate how the mass should behave.

GDog

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For me the government should be more focused on more important things than songs that get sung at a football match. It is purely done for the headlines.

During a match i don't get offended by celtic songs and my celtic fan mates don't get offended by the rangers songs. cause it's a song!!!!!.

As long as rangers fans take out the 'add ons' in songs then we will be fine, As a season ticket holder i rarely hear any bad singing now. Compare that to 10 years ago it just shows the good job rangers are doing.

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Firstly i would like to say, The Blue Order do not have the backing of everyone at Ibrox and in fact i can confirm that the majority of people who i sit next to or talk to, have no time for the Blue Order. Yes they might sing and create a good atmosphere but at the end of the day, the majority of people are there to watch football. The Blue Order are stuck on politics which shouldnt figure at Football.

As for the protests about the SNP's flawed legislation, yes it need defined but i can tell you one thing, i can go to Ibrox and guarantee that i wont be arrested, why is that?

Ill tell you, because i am there to see Rangers and because i love football. I dont love poorly informed idiots pedaling their own misguided political views.

If i can go a match without singing anything untoward then so can everyone else, its just the idiots dont want to stop singing their little irrelevant ditty's.

For these people who claim to love our club, surely it would just be easier to stick to Rangers songs, no?

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When did it become illegal to protest about the government? This aint a dictatorship pal. The snp is a bunch of dodgy b******s, just like aw politicians. They bring in minimum pricing so its more expensive to watch the game at home and they arrest folk for complaining about their governing reign :L. Its ridiculous man. Come on people, lets say get it up yi to all politicians and create our own society, celtic fans able to join aswell if they want because if you think this has gone a step too far, wait till you see whats in store...

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What seperates the old firm from any other derby in the world is the hostile enviroment when the 2 meet and the electric atmosphere it generates. This will soon be taken out of the game we love. Singing is doing no one any harm, Let us sing and stamp out the mindless thugs who take violence to the street after the game!!

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Why dont those who are killing our football clubs not waken up?I dont care to re-live what happened 100,s of years ago over and over again.We all know what the bigots are trying to do they cant have their way so they just try to destroy the society -in other words we cant get our way ..well neither will you ..its pathetic.

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"When did it become illegal to protest about the government? This aint a dictatorship pal. The snp is a bunch of dodgy b******s, just like aw politicians. They bring in minimum pricing so its more expensive to watch the game at home and they arrest folk for complaining about their governing reign :L. Its ridiculous man. Come on people, lets say get it up yi to all politicians and create our own society, celtic fans able to join aswell if they want because if you think this has gone a step too far, wait till you see whats in store..."

Are you serious? Im struggling not to resort to petty insults due to your obscure view on legislation. For a start the government ARE NOT persecuting people for speaking out against them they are persecuting people for singing innapropriate songs, this is what it is aimed at, its aimed at stopping the idiots who think you cant enjoy a game of football without chants about King Billy and rebels. ITS FOOTBALL, you sing about football.

Honestly the naivety of you knows no bounds, you seem to me like you are holding on to this sordid indulgence with every last fingernail, those who bring politics into football dont deserve to be at Ibrox.

If i can go a whole match and only sing songs that are relevant to my club and football, without it being any bother then there is no excuse as to why TBO and their supporters cant do the same.

Its just as easy for you to NOT sing them wouldnt you agree?

Also, your comment about minimum pricing is telling, you seem to imply that you cant enjoy football unless you get pished and sing about whatever misguided political views the Blue Order have fed you.

Make your own mind up, stop being a sheep.

Anyone who bases their political views on the support of a football club needs their head examined, get in the real world, society no longer accepts the baggage of the old firm.

It was always going to be the people who chant these songs that were going to kick hardest about it, you are living proof.

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SNP should all be jailed. But enough about politics, why are we not having the privilige of a 'chase' this season. It is just not on.

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Your talking crap nobby. sing songs of hate get locked up its up to you.

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There is an example in this weeks papers of someone who had to resign from their job and was punished severely by the Courts for singing sectarian songs at a Rangers match. I am a former season ticket holder in the Copeland Road, I have heard all the songs, and know all the words, but I have never sang them. You know why? I am a football supporter, Rangers are my football team. I do not care who plays for my beloved Rangers, whether they be black, brown, white, yellow, hindu, muslim, Sikh, catholic, protestant, agnostic or whatever. It has nothing at all to do with football and supporting my team. I have relations, friends and former partners, people I love very much, who are catholics. I find it embarrassing and disgusting when I hear the brain dead retards among my own teams support, singing their sectarian bile. I acknowledge the tunes are catchy, many teams have copied the tunes and added their own words. Why can't we?? If you think that the tune of Derry's Walls creates an atmosphere second to none, then find a way to change the lyrics so they are not offensive, and sing it. The same with all of the songs of the ilk. Keep the tunes, but change the words. That way, you will keep the atmosphere, but at the same time, keep our club out of trouble and embrace the many who find those same songs at present, disturbing, embarrassing and offensive. Just my thoughts by the way, but worth considering.

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02 Oct 2011 14:57:46
jelavic will be sold in january allowing ally to go out and buy 2 strikers!

Believable12 Unbelievable54

Selling Jelavic will hopefully not happen in January. If it does though then we have to get the best fee possible and get the deal done early to give Ally time to find replacement(s). In saying that if Celtic keep losing games we could play with me up front for 2nd half of season and still win the league. THIS IS NOT THE END, THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!! HA

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Dont be silly!
10 points clear before new year!

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Would you not agree that it would make sense selling jelavic for say 7million cause he's been really disappointing thus far and he will leave at the end of the season anyway. whereas bringing in two two replacement strikers may will almost guarantee title 55!

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Yes jelavic doesn't seem the same player his body language would suggest that

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Ehmmm have you missed the reaction he gives every goal he scores for rangers especially against THEM. have a good look and tell me he doesnt want to be here even when someone else scores he and ALL the other players are round the scorer like a rash, now thats what i call team spirit one for one and one for all.
championi

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I think Jelavic is carrying an injury but has to continue playing for the moment as we are short of good strikers. I hope he can get a rest to clear the injury.

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I can see the sense in selling jelavic in jan. all prices are massivley inflated in the jan transfer window so we would get top notch money for him. The problem would be getting the replacements. who do you bring in?

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If jelavic gets injured then you only have healey on the bench who for me shouldnt have been given a new contract. i suppose all depends on the tax situation coming up. if all is well then i would sell jelavic and bring in couple of strikers

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Jelavic here to end of season at least unless some club comes in with £10 million for him. That would be great business and would help reduce our debt. should have hung on to Andrew Shinnie though - good player. We messed up with Charlie Adam and few others in recent years. As for Rangers leaving Scottish League for England or anywhere else - no chance.

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People can bang on about charlie adam and the good form he is in but i for one are still not convinced he up to much. whenever i see him he constantly gives away possession and doesnt backtrack. he was poor for rangers and even when played in correct position he offered the team next to nothing. i for one wont get carried away by the fact hes at liverpool. his recent performance for scotland sums him up. for every 60 yard world cup pass that pays off, seven or eight go astray!

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Like every player he will be sold at the right price and a cheaper replacement will be signed. That's the future for our club,

Even though he does look injured/not interested sometimes he does show flashes of sheer class!.

Win us the title then i would happily sell him on.

Also if we do sell him for say 9 million(offered in January) what a brilliant bit of business from Rangers.

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Even tho yous wont agree 1 player to replace jelavic garry o'connor top goal scorer enough said and would be cheap and he would run through brick walls for ally mccoist if he had the chance to play for us at the highest level again just a thought guys

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Unless its double figures he is going nowhere.

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If he doesn t get his finger out, he will not be going anywhere. Looks sluggish and uninterested far too much this season.

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I would agree with you about Garry o'Conner cause i think he will score even more goals playing in our team.

I know he likes the white stuff but still think he would do us a good job.

Think we may be in the minority about this one though.

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A wee dip in form and all the diddys want him sold. jella as a class act and you should be proud the guy plays for rangers. o'connor would be just about right as a replacement imo. lets wait and see.

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I think the guy really enjoys playin for us, he shows his class with his first touch that straight away brings other players into the game, you never got that with boyd or the likes, boyds first touch was a pass back and his second touch was a tackle, if it wasn't for jelavics goals last season we would not be going for 4 in a row folks, just sayin thats all.

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02 Oct 2011 00:39:27
We are going back for Carlos Cuellar in January.

Believable23 Unbelievable64

I like Carlos but i am not sure about this one, The two lads we got now are playing outstanding. With Bartley also coming back it must be a pre-contract for next season. Not to sure if carlos want's to come back up here.

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At the moment no need for just another centre back who maybe hasnt recovered fully from injury yet.You must be posting on behalf of big eck...trying to give us cuellar in part exchange for naismith which should not happen however ,everyone has a price 20million tax bill half payed +no admin...

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Great player but where's he going to play? the defence has looked really good so far and our priority should be another forward, if Jelavic is injured then we would really struggle

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No really needing him now are we?

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Dont see us getting anyone got to reduce the wages by several million can see one of two going the other way.

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I don't think we would be that bad without Jelavic (and I never thought I'd say that!) but to me he just doesnt seem totally happy and wanting to play for us, I may be wrong and I hope so but theres just something about him just now.

CC

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I agree don't think losing jelly make a huge impact

What I have noticed last 2 games is we miss naisy alot more - he brings so much to the dynamics of our team

Mattie

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We have plenty of cover in that area. if, and its a big if, money is available then a striker is allys main priority!

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I agree with mattie, naisy been a miss, but lads keep winning, ten ahead of the other mob, better goal difference, maybe need another striker for back up, and forget cuellier, boga and big goian doing well!

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We don't need King Carlos Cuellar when we've got King Carlos Bocanegra!

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Get Mckay playing! hopefully better in front of goal than Wylde.

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Carlos can play either side of defence including left and right back .. so would't say no, would much rather see another striker coming in even if on loan, we are a bit short in that department

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Big Carlos played 45minutes for Villa reserves last night. Nice to see Alex getting him fit for a return to Ibrox!.

WATP

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