Rangers Rumours Archive April 04 2012

04 Apr 2012 23:14:08
right first thing im happy with the bids coming in as i thought we could be in trouble at 4.45pm to be honest, second as watching a number of financial experts say that there must be a deal with hmrc as liqudation would cost the club in in all areas , i believe that we will avoid it(fingers crossed) i know a certain amount of other fans would love to see it and have became financial experts in the past 4 months and eating a hell of a lot of jelly, i do believe we will pay our debts and move on, which will be better for the whole of spl which some teams forget.. p.s if it is aeg i must admit it does get my senses going.
craigandbabybear

Don't believe a word D&P say mate they are peddling us any old rubbish and we are desperate to believe it there's no way we will get a cva why would anyone plough at least £70 mill into a spl team with no Europe season ticket sales or players as majority have now got clauses to say they can go in summer for buttons! We are goina have to liquidate and start afresh with a fan based consortium.

I agree, it will be better for everyone if rangers pay all their debts. Then they can continue as a club and i can stop eating all this jelly and ice cream, im going to be too fat for the beach at this rate

Big tax case! Tax, interest and penalties if lost, £70 mill according to Whyte. HMRC wanted to wind up Hearts when there bill was washers compared to RFC (In Administration). Murray is expecting a CVA based on creditors at the moment but if "big" case is lost? Liquidation don't you think.

No way will rangers liquidate these are good bids for the club and future investment a few big money bids in the 4 bids wait and see

Personally as a life long Celtic fan, I would like to see Rangers pay what they are due, take any punishment handed out by SPL and Uefa and get back to football matters as this is boring the crap out of me and many other decent football fans.

I hope for everyone’s jobs and the numerous small creditors that this is a good offer and they at least get some of their money back. Personally I don’t give a flying f*** what happens to Rangers but hope in the wake of this rules are changed, never again should financial doping on this scale be allowed with little penalty. Rangers may well come out of this debt free (either liquate or CVA) but the image of the club is tarnished (no more WATP or dignity) and by association do is the SPL

Danny Bhoy

I keep hearing about big money bids, Rangers is not worth big money and it cannot make big money, in fact it has consistently lost big money. There will be no big money offers, these people are businessmen, it is their job not to spend big money unless the returns justify it.

There is going to be a lot of Gers fans in tears when this all unravels, it will take years to recover.

I know Gers fans just want all this mess to go away in one fell swoop and some sugar daddy to step in and make everything alright.

Unfortunately this is is not some fairy tale, it is a nightmare of incredible proportions. Expect a long painful haul out of this can of worms, you cannot expect 10 years of financial mismanagement to just disappear overnight.

I am sick of reading posts from celtic fans calling all us rangers fans cheats and all the rest, remember, we had nothing to do with the situation at rangers we are just money to business men so its not our fault some people have been taking the preverbial and we are more outraged and embbarased than you lot so shut it , and concentrate on your own side winning the title with flair rather than the below average performances of late, you might be about to become champions but just remember we ran over the top of yous twice this season so that dont say much for your mediocre team.

04 Apr 2012 20:42:06
Darrell King on talksport .Saying Apart from BK bid the other 3 are all about asset stripping ,Liquidation

AEG do not asset strip and liquidate so more Barry White from him !

How wud he kno? No details have been spoken of

Clutching at straws timothy u no we be back and a bit of money behind us easily go 10 in a row watp

Is this the same Darryl King who stated he SAW the dual contracts for players? It's comforting to know that Duff and Phelps are willing to consult him for professional guidance on the bids eh :)

Yeah cause Darnell king gets it right all the time . Mmm

No-one is going to throw money away on a Scottish team. Plus, how is the OP a timmy for reporting something heard on the radio?! Grow up and grow a brain if you think that all Rangers' problems are over because of bids.

AEG are not the American bidders. That is fantasy.

Haha even thou SSN have said about 12 times in the last hour that no other details have been given about the other bids....im sorry but even thou this was heard on the radio it is alot of scare mongering nonsence with someone with no insider knowledge, so at this moment in time i would totally ignore, and to the above poster who said noone would throw money away at a scottish team, its the exact same as all the owners of the clubs down in england, they plough millions in and get no return, its the same everywhere in football just now, Rangers have a slight advantage as any potential investor will not have to invest stupid cash to get us into the champions league every year becoz our league is so poor, in england unless your one of the top 4 elite, Man Utd, City, Arsenal , Chelski, its virtually impossible to break in.

So positive thinking and good news for Rangers fans, and i would rather listen to the financial expert who was on the news earlier saying it would be a disaster for any potential buyer to liquadate than some celtic minded radio punter!!

I didn't hear the comment, but Darryl King can't be considered as Celtic minded, he is a big Rangers fan! Lets just wait and see fellow bears as I would happily walk before we can run. Whilst I would love it to be a big investor, we need to ask ourselves where were these investors when we had a debt of £18m and SDM was willing to sell us for a £1? I hope i'm wrong and its some billionaire willing to settle the debt and out a decent side on the park, but to stabilise us i'd settle for a bunnet type figure!

Delusion confirmed in the post above that says Darrell King is Celtic-minded!

Anyone with half a brain knew it was liquidation all along.

i don't think its asset stripping, its reality, nobody has a spare 60 to 100 million for your history!

Idiocy confirmed as above post clearly states that he is NOT Celtic minded. Learn to read properly

Absolutely truthful, Singapore, USA and Europe bids are all about Liquidating first.

Newco only bidders with all bids conditional on EBT HMRC case.

Illiteracy confirmed as there IS a post that claims he is Celtic-minded. The 'delusion confirmed' post was in response to that.

Inside information from another journalist in Scotland who have collectively had not a clue since Whyte takeover......."positive & constructive" bids said D&P......liquidation is not constructive.
BTW.....have Celtic not got a game to practice bottling for at the weekend?

Have met darrell king at new st mirren park and i can assure you that darrell is a true blue. some people unfortunately take offence to a journalist who is upfront and honest about what's happening at rangers.

That's right everything gonna be alright now.... Get millions for players an pay millions in wages like old times HAHA GET A GRIP head in sand yet again wake up FFS

It doesn't matter who D&P select as the best bidder, Craigy bhoy Whyte wants £30m for his shares/ secured creditor payback.

And after that, HMRc want £15m and £75m = £90m and Ticketus £25.3m.
ONLY liquidation sorts that.

Above poster correct tens of millions of pounds needed to save your club and it's history. Nobody with that kind of cash to throw away loves your club that much. It's either the Barron Knights and years of misery or you'll all be changing your team next season ......Stevie

Daryl king was all for craig white at the start and put the boot into bain , alister johnstone and the rest of the old board , now we should all listen to these guys

TBK bid will undoubtedly be the weakest of all four.
D&P saying they will select a primary bidder by end of next week and work with them to end of season before exiting Administration.
However bidder may wish to exit with Liquidation and HMRC case will force liquidation, in which case all debts cancelled and CW sells Assets for £30m to bid winner.

This is the weekend we've all been waiting for! Easter Sunday the day after we become Champions and i've no had a swally for 40 days bring it on........Stevie

All joking aside, I find it absolutely incredulous that out of the whole world theres only four groups interested in taking a punt on distressed Gers. Out of a planet of 7 Billion people, this is the only interest?
And 3 of the bidders are not from the UK or have any previous relationship with Rangers. Not Rangers minded at all.

Head in the sand time ppl how can there be any serious bids before the BTC is resolved , the Bk bid is the only one based on a CVA that would hamstring the club for yrs better to liquidate with pts off and start again with no debt

Why are celik fans deperate for us to liquidate , if that happens 4or5 clubs would go under , no decent sky deal , no player with any decent pedgree would sign for celtic , no fone ins , big drop in newspaper sales , redundencies to football reporters and pundits , after about 2years celtic playing in front of 25thousand crowds , redundenies in trains and subways and bus drivers of supporters buses and so on , so on ,if we go out of buisness celtic football club is as flat as a pancake along with the rest of scottish football

The German bid will win 'exclusivity' next Thursday. WHY?
Because CW and Ellis brought them in.
And D&P will do the needful.

Celik, timothy or shelik, why not evolve to this century and type Celtic.

To say these 4 bidders wont put in large investment is stupid talk why go down the route of liquidation if they are investing hundreds of millions in our club all this talk is scaremongering no way will rangers be liquidated we are too big a club

I don't get that
Craig Whyte is the asset stripper, no?

Are the USA bidders Fortress?
The guys Ellis and Whyte were briefing?
Singapore is linked to Ticketus.
And Der Germans ? Long lost cousins?
I hope TBK get it cause that's s train crash waiting to happen. Honestly PM is riding on a wing and a prayer.
What we do know for sure is that D&P are getting paid to the end of the season and CW will be owner to end of season.

Here are the facts fellow bears there will be no liquidation fairy story the new owners will either pay off all our debts or go through a cva i would like to see all the debts paid off the german bid seems the best option as i believe there will be real money invested if it goes to a cva i think it will be the blue knights we cant lose both ways great news for a change

Good news for our club at last jelly and ice cream has melted
humble pie anyone

It really does show how small minded the shellick fans really are, if Rangers were liquidated it would have massive consequences for Scottish Football including them, however their hatred of Rangers runs deeper than even their love for their own club, and this whole saga has just reinforced that, the truth of the matter is that nobody but the bidders and the admin know what is happening, so all you timothys cling to the hope Rangers will be liquidated because that is the only way you will win anything in the next few seasons, because despite you lot thinking the shellick ara pure best team in I wurld anat, you lot are rotten.

How can anybody comment on the bids we only know where they are from we don't know what the bids are, what conditions are, after yrs of lies from Murray and Whtye I want to wait to see the actual money and players before I celebrate ( sorry I sound a bit down but whole situation has been a joke)

Ill say this the future is Blue!

Here are the facts fellow bears there will be no liquidation.
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Neither you nor I know the facts and obviously liquidation is a realistic business option. As for the BK, their bid mostly consists of the Ticketus 27 million, not much in there for other creditors to agree to.

That's cos he's an arse licking appologist for paul Murrey

To the poster who believes Rangers are too big a club to liquidate, you are simply deluding yourself.

Rangers is a big fish in a tiny pond, it is not a global brand and is a football minnow with a small turnover.
RFC isn't the Bank of Scotland.

Darrell King will have 3 different exclusive interviews then?

If I was a business man no way would I invest in a business where the true level of debt is unknown (BTC and possible fines/sanctions from uefa/sfa ) keep real wait til all bids are revealed and an actual buyer is in place.

LOL talksport.....seriously who listens to any of the pish on there??

04 Apr 2012 18:47:05
administrators tonight- rangers likely to be out of administration by the end of the season.also 4 bids have come in for the club, 1 being a fresh bid from germany.

Brill news heard the german bid is big

Hoping to be,not likely to be.two different things.

Fantastic news looks like we will be out of admin soon heard today they are real investment promised

Where is timmy tonite lol its coming home

Don't forget they will need a large pot to pay off the creditors, HMRC etc BEFORE spending on players.

Here we go again the excitement who is going to piss away £100 million just to save a tarnished history wake up and smell the coffee!!! it's liquidation I'm afraid

Timmys still laughing, A lot of bears still deluding!

Celtic about to win their 1st MEANINGFUL piece of silverware in years and all they want to do is talk about is the world record holders and CHAMPIONS RANGERS. obssessed or what ?

Bye bye administration






















hello liquidation

World records HA HA RANCID BEARS ! Go GOGGLE how many world records have been made then ripped away for cheating !
Cheating your profession , your fans , and all the hospitals, schools , and other needy people in our society !
My you forget how your records were set !
The old, the sick , the needy , your kids future ! Shame on you !

To the above post this is very unfair on the rangers support our fans are hurting just now we are not over the moon about the way the club was run so stop trying to get cheap points im sure the new owners hopefully the german bid are going to invest at 200 million pounds in our club our debts will be paid off im sure and we will be back stronger hopefully once the share issue comes out and with the money invested we will be back at the top the gers are back

You have used the word invest regarding your hope that the "Germans will invest £200 million". An investment is made on the basis you get a reasonable return back for taking a risk. There would be no chance at all of getting a return back on £200 million with any club in Scotland. Therefore, you would have to be prepared to gift this money. I am sure there are more worthy causes than gifting £100 million + to RFC. Would you not agree?

If the money was invested properly new structure new players european football ok not next season but beyond rangers is a worldwide brand im sure the club will be run better than the past great potential im sure german owners would get the best out of rangers who agrees ?

One year ago RFC was worth £1, since then it has lost £15 million plus the BTC and no Europe.

Abracadabra it is now worth 200 million !

Please you are makng a fool of yourself.

Please stop saying Rangers are a worldwide brand, its simply not true, they are not even a British brand.

Rangers are a parochial village brand, and the village is Scotland-Ulster.

Stay real.

04 Apr 2012 18:31:05
@ed.. any news who the german consortiom is... is aeg ?? {Ed001's Note - AEG are likely to be the American bid.}

AEG are not the American bid, don't be mad {Ed001's Note - what is mad about it? They have been showing interest all along, they have a track record in this field and they have been looking to buy British based stadiums.}

AEG are a German Eletrical Group. {Ed001's Note - there is an American entertainment group, Anschultz, that are the AEG being referred to.}

I posted on the banter page ... info about aeg...jsm

Dont mess with Ed {Ed001's Note - I just don't understand what is mad about it. They have been trying to buy a British sports team, with their own stadium for a while. They have been buying up stadiums worldwide. There is a call for an NFL game to be played in Glasgow, so they probably have plans in that area as well.}

Mate you just made yourself look like a total banger lmao. Do you not think the eds on these sites know what they are talking about? No wonder they shoot idiots down at times.....Belter with the AEG ed001 they were mentioned months ago btw. Keep up the good work ed mate,I spend far to much time on your sites.Even the timmy ed has got some great patter!

I 100% agree with you ed, this is why i posted the original comment, aeg are a massive company who want stadia and a team in the uk, im really hoping it is them and that the blue knights dont get control as they have not enough money, i have been hearing the singapour guy is worth somthin like 7 billion, but not confirmed, dont know about the german bid atall....jsm

It could also be the fortress group that we heard of before, my understanding of "fortress" is that the fortress group puts bids in for companys to protect the bidders identity... all speculation of course..time will tell....jsm

So if they are the bidders, do u think alistair johnstone could be involved? He has links with them does he not ed? Good news if he is. {Ed001's Note - I don't know, it is likely he would have been the one to bring the club to their attention I would think.}

Was alister johnstone not the ceo of aeg at one time ? ... jsm

I think a lot of people are mixing it up with AIG

A bid from AEG is not a get out of jail free card

I suppose you desperados need some hope to cling on to. Why would someone come in and waste over 75+ million debt just to get a CVA when it would be easier to wind the whole lot up and start again? No one wanted the club for 5 years and now all of a sudden people are ready to throw millions at it? Yeah sure. the only bid that wants a CVA is the Blue in the face Knights...Good luck with that 1.

04 Apr 2012 18:20:27
4 bids submitted! Blue Knights, Singapore, U.S and Germany!

Source - BBC

Did the US not pull out of is it a different party or business man

Germany?

Who is the German offer?

Who is the German offer?
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Some billionaire called Craig Weiss, (pronounced Vice).

Some billionaire called Craig Weiss, (pronounced Vice).


Kind of like Vladimir Weiss

Hi ed who is this billionaire guy weiss any idea ? {Ed001's Note - not a clue sorry.}

What another craig billionaire?I,ve heard about 10 names already...straws,clutching anyone?BK TBK take yer pick cause the rest are an illusion

04 Apr 2012 18:17:17
German bid in not long ago. Nothin known of them yet

The German consortium have been watching Rangers for a while, according to BBC reporter.

04 Apr 2012 17:38:54
If Rumors are true Americans are the best bet have stated they would invest heavily in club and would NOT liquidate meant to have massive funds and have nothing to do with Whyte only using S9C as agents (which is part of their business as advisors) (express)if they did want to liquidate would have to be quick and Kennedy says he would step in if that was case and no doubt would be backed by the well meaning Paul Murray consortium if needed

If RFC does not sell its high wage earners in the summer, then the new owner's first investment will be to pay for another 10-12 million pound debt for not being in Europe.

Let me ask you something, do you buy a house for what its worth or for how much money you have ?

It does not matter if they have billions, Rangers will never make billions, a reasonable business model would result in profits of 20 million every 5 years.

It is not a big business in every sense of the word.

Not a big business because of the way it has been run Stadium if used correctly ie AEG deal for 25% of concerts could rake in £26 mill alone for 1 sell out concert a week on top of that there is the muted deal with Fox Soccer in their compulsory sports package $4.80 per annum per unit @25million units throws you roughly £70mill there is on top of that you have catering advertising merchandizing revenue. Well over £100mill a season all perfectly feasible Rangers potential is massive if marketed right and its run like a business and not a plaything

04 Apr 2012 17:31:04
Rumour that the Americans always wanted to liquidate but didn't understand that meant being bumped out SPL and Europe for min 3 years.
When they realized that and financial implications, they knew can not run Rangers without liquidation, so baled out.

I find their statement strange that they never made any bid for Rangers.

D&P have previously stated Club9 made an initial conditional bid?!?!

American bid is in according to SSN

Rubbish... Do you really think they would not have checked that before they bid millions of pounds the first time around!?

They didn't even login to D&P website to check financials?

04 Apr 2012 16:33:27
I've been thinking about the possible buyers today and it seems none of the party's will really take the club anywhere apart form mabye the party form Singapore but they're a mystery as Craig whyte was , I think the best buyer would be Brian Kennedy but he seems he only wants the club to really save them from liquidation , I like the blue knights because it brings back that family feel to the club with the old true gers but I would rather see rangers being pumped lot of money into , what do you think fellow bears ?

Think we all what someone to pump loads of cash in but I am afraid that just ain't going to happen the most important thing above all is that the club is saved and remains in its current form - we will deal with the rest later.

Gers1986

The singapore people are the Ng family, probably the richest family in the country

Do any other bears not feel a bit uncomfortable that we are looking for a way out of this without paying what is owed? I would rather take my chances of starting at the bottom SFL Div 3 and working our way back to the top. We are THE RANGERS, we should be doing this with dignity and class just as our club has done for 140 years. Our proud history as the WORLDS MOST SUCCESSFUL club. It breaks my heart to even see how far MY CLUB has slipped over the last few months, we are better than this, WE ARE THE PEOPLE. Chosen to represent all that is good in society, we are leaders amongst men as our roots and HISTORY show. Where we go, others follow. We have always shown the way forward and should continue to do this. WATP

We don't need loads of cash pumped in. Apart from debt and liabilities. Which are unfortunate for new owners. The squad needs a few million invested. Celtic have won the league but have not spent excessive amounts. It is the SPL. You buy the best from Dundee utd hearts and Aberdeen. Mix in with a couple from championship or abroad if needbe. And you have a . Competitive squad.

The poster going on about "leaders amongst men" has clearly been getting romantic with the chemicals! My advice would be to come down take a break and go to a few meetings and then have someone supervise your future posts.

We are THE RANGERS, we should be doing this with dignity and class just as our club has done for 140 years. Our proud history as the WORLDS MOST SUCCESSFUL club. It breaks my heart to even see how far MY CLUB has slipped over the last few months, we are better than this, WE ARE THE PEOPLE. Chosen to represent all that is good in society, we are leaders amongst men as our roots and HISTORY show. Where we go, others follow. We have always shown the way forward and should continue to do this. WATP
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I hope things work out, if not, you are welcome to join me on planet earth.

Fellow bear here get a grip mate no wonder some people hate us u on the beavy mate

04 Apr 2012 16:28:31
Sorry I am just getting a bit annoyed at all the bad press we seem to be
aiming at D&P. I dont think you guys have any idea of the processes of CVA or liquidation. The first deadline was what all companies in administration have to do and that is to whittle down intersted parties who have serious intent from the smaller groups who try to grab little bargains. The then have to speak with each party to determine the
details of the finances of the club in question. Once all parties have looked at this the administrators must remove any hazardous enquiries and then ask for all serious and final bids to be placed. Once they are placed the administrators must decide whether any can satisfy the credittors and repayment of the debts owed. If there are good enough offers they can proceed to sell the club, if not then they liquidate the assets to pay off the creditors at a pence per pound agreement. Rangers as we know it would be no more. Duph & Phelps have done well so far, people have no idea how much work this takes for a company the size of rangers and the amount of debt involved. This was after having to shave costs first to avoid redundancies and at least have the club breaking
even. No one can save rangers unless they have many millions to throw away first before one day hopefully seeing a return on that investment. Rangers will never again be any sort of force in the european seen for decades or unless a new messiah comes in for us.

D&P have spent a lot of time studying SFA and SPL regulations regarding liquidation.

Whyte has recently put the footballing assets further beyond creditors/ liquidators.

Although D&P called Whyte irrelevant they never moved to challenge his wrong status.

It has always been liquidation. From day one. The rest is smoke and mirrors.

I agree, I think that with most administrations the company has an idea that they will be appionted and know what to expect and have a plan. D&P were rushed in at the last minute in a race with the tax man by Craig Whyte. I would imagine that Rangers accounts were less than easy to go through and sort out.

No BTC result= no CVA, the Administrators can not just invent a tax debt and submit it to potential buyers.

Throw into the can of worms, Ticketus, floating charges, disputed funds and CW.

Its a miracle Rangers are not already in liquidation.

04 Apr 2012 15:05:00
TBK Submit Best and Final Bid - SSN

Blue Stu

The Blue Knights! no one seams to know who these people actually are, it would be funny if it was Dave Murray & Craig Whyte! this has dragged on long enough, lets put this sorry mess to bed once & for all.

04 Apr 2012 13:29:57
I'm going to echo the post at 10.59am ish and throw my weight behind Kennedy aswell, he seems to me our best option, don't like the sound if this ticketus deal, and would find it hard to trust anyone from the far east , I've seen a few sporting documentaries about over there an they're pretty shady to say the least, I could be wrong about Kennedy , what do you think lads ? GovanFR , TB , les , craigybear, trueblue , an the other regulars I've forgot, any better input than me boys?
PaulRFC

Kennedy seems the best option for rangers

I've got to agree mate think he will be our man. He doesn't want the club but seems he wont allow it to die and for me thats good enough! Even if he puts us on a level footing just to sell us off. It really doesn't matter what he does. If he is the man to save Rangers his name will live on simple as that.


Blue Stu

Tbh mate, I dont think I could say who I want one way or the other. I was one of the ones that fell for Whyte when he took over. PM doesnt seem to have any money. I think Kennedy is ok but he is doing it just to keep us out of liquidation, the far east boy, maybe sees it as a way of gettin a team in europe. I think our one big pull for buyers outside the uk, is the fact they can buy a team, that will be in europe every season, well not at the moment but you understand, and has a brand name already. No one really makes money out of football now. So I for one am just hoping and keeping my fingers crossed that when we come out of this, the best man/woman took over our team.
Don
PS the only thing I will say against PM is that he is acting abit strange with the fact he is letting his business be known in the media. If you are buying a company you dont show your cards, which he seems to be doing.

I like the sound of Kennedy, last week a paper ran an article that a employee of his (rugby coach or something) thought of him and i was delighted with the comments the guy was making. I'd love Kennedy, even before TBK. He can't be that dis interested in us if he was the first man to make a concrete offer to take over and as soon as a deadline is mentioned he's seemingly back in the frame. Something tells me he's using this "last resort" thing as a front. I think he's as interested as anyone TBH.
J1985

Kennedy seems like the only genuine honest guy in all of this.
This shameful dark period brought on us will be discussed and shown on tv and on radio for decades to come, 50 years won't delete this. Paul Murray by his actions and inactions holds responsibility and accountability for this mess. I don't want him back.

I think Kennedy will gain control over Rangers, personally I'd like to see him join forces with the Blue Knights, as the main financial backer. The reason I think he will get control of Rangers is that Souness is involved with him, and who is Souness close friends with, SDM. Anyway Kennedy or Blue Knights for me, I do like the idea of having Souness and Walter Smith back involved with Rangers.

GovanFR

I like the sound of Kennedy as well, he comes across as a very astute and honorable guy. Just what we need after the Whyte fiasco. And by the way, I live over in China and they are some of the nicest people you can meet. Can be ruthless in business, the same as everyone else, but on the whole, really decent folk so don't read too much into our not so great British press. Duccablue

I also like the sound of Kennedy. The more I hear the more I like. I think he could do a decent job with the Gers. He's a successful businessman who already knows what it takes to run a sports business. TBK aren't offering enough, especially when there is supposed to be 10 wealthy rangers men involved.
Don't know much about the far east bid but I would rather it was someone home grown that took us forward. Let's be honest can anyone actually do any worse than whats already happened

quabba

Kennedy does not give a flying fig about
the gers. what has he got to gaiN??

"about over there an they're pretty shady to say the least"? The irony of that statement is clearly lost on you my friend. Have you forgotten the ethnicity of the people who have taken you to this sorry juncture?

Ticketus/octopus seem to be in the driving seat here looks like we may need to go with them,they are a multi million pound outfit
we maybe about to get a punishment we did,nt expect from the sfa/eufa
and we aint getting money from any banks any time soon so ticketus/octopus is a must
anyone else have to come to the fans for buck

as for punishment i think it maybe very bad for us,2nd contracts is as bad as you can get,so wait and see

no one ever said why are ticketus there without a garentee think well soon,and we,ll soon find out for good or bad find out
ticketus/octopuss for me

Look lads i don't know all the financial ins and outs (nobody does) but why all the downers on paul Murray at least he is trying to keep our history alive anybody who has dealt with him personally seems to think he is a good guy with rangers at heart (Brian Kennedy included) as for he has no money has the whole consortium not got a bit of wealth between them lets not fool ourselfs nobody is going to come in and start throwing money like confetti bk included. ps i thought pm was not on the payroll at rangers is this correct? and does he not want the fans to take controll at some stage.

"about over there an they're pretty shady"
Aye mate that's what I says, you can read well done, or , I see , because my clubs had "crooks" in the past im not allowed an opinion on who I think could be shady, if that is your thinking take a look at your own clubs history. Anyway apart from that toolbox it seems alot of us like the sound of Kennedy, it's getting interesting if not frightening !
PaulRFC

To be honest kennedy seems the best bet but the blue knights will win bid

I fear Kennedy is only there to create bidding interest. I also think TBK are also there to create bidding interest.

Why not have a look what happened the last time Kennedy owned a football club before you get another Whyte knight on your hands. Dont believe what you read in the Record, the club might just end up "off the Radar".

Mac

04 Apr 2012 12:14:50
American bid will not happen Club 9 Sport announced the people they are representing no longer wish to bid for the club.
No too sure if this a good or bad thing as D+P can reject all bids and liquidate if they feel that is best for creditors. Still feel CW is running this show. Fingers crossed i'm wrong.

04 Apr 2012 11:31:24
There will be two bids today; TBK and Singapore.
Singapore=Ticketus.
So Ticketus both ways.
As D&P have stated they may not give Rangers to any of the bidders.

What singapore bid?there is none

04 Apr 2012 09:39:09
the singapore businessman today named as Bill Ng. anyone know anything of this guy. checked online but like craig whyte he appears to be a man of mystery. he has been quoted as saying that he has no intention of liquidating rangers if he win control.

William Ng W. L.
Director General Manager at Tech Link Limited and Owner, Tech Link Limited
China | Electrical/Electronic Manufacturing
Current: Director General Manager at Tech Link Limited
not 100% sure but thin they have links to Octopus/ticketus which would explain somethings

Watch out for this dark horse this guy already owns a pro football team in Singapore so in theory could expand the product to Asia a market that Rangers neglected in the past also he could source some good Asian players

the DR states
the Singapore bid has been shrouded in mystery, leading to speculation it favours the liquidation option but last night a British-based source close to the group revealed a CVA is part of their business plan.
He said: “Ng is a seriously wealthy individual. He feels Rangers represent a fantastic marketing opportunity.
“He would take the brand out of Europe and across the globe but, in particular, to the Far East where there is serious money to be made.
“Not only Rangers would benefit. Scottish football would be taken to these new markets.
“The people behind this don’t want to conduct their business in the public eye, which is why they have not been as vocal as some of the bidders. But they are serious and honourable, respected business people.

Yeh its a bid by two business men called
No Pi Tax & No Pi NI

Can't see us being bought by anyone super rich. Shame cos post above regarding Asian markets would be great. Here's hoping.

I know Singapore. EXTREMELY well run country. As a bit of light relief - if you relive yourself in one of the lifts in their equivalents of schemes - the lift will automatically lock you in and call the police. (Piss detectors fitted)There's one good idea they could bring her for a start.

Singapore is a Police State with no democracy. It has been run by the same family since its founding.
Strict Corporal punishments and death penalty.
Poor human rights record.

ALL of the bids will want a CVA rather than liquidation. Liquidation means that Rangers would have to call in Liquidators to sell the assets SEPARATELY to the highest bidders. This means that if the company buys then liquidates they would have to bid for all of the assets they want eg Ibrox, not sure that players can be sold if liquidated as technically they would be out of contract. If the BTC goes against you liquidation would be a certainty. But liquidation could mean Murry park, and Ibrox in different ownership, with a new co having to rent. It is even possible that rival new co's could form with differnt sets of assets.

Man of mystery damn at means i canny google him..no its only scottish media who ignore facts!If i put in a 10 pound bid wi a few mates does that mean i,ll be the prefered bidder?Ok its a joke but yous started it first.

04 Apr 2012 01:39:28
Club 9 Sports says it will not be bidding for Rangers according to BBC Sprts Scotland

This was stated below on a statement from their website..........

Who knows what to believe highest bid wins and they can do what they want to the club!! or we go bust!! about the same as death and taxes.......its all going to happen one day soon.......

Hi,

My friend is a shareholder at Ibrox and sent me a text this morning saying that Club 9 Sports and the group they represent are not going to be bidding for rangers and that the administrators were talking them up to get more money from the Blue Knights and kennedy. There CEO Jon Pritchett tweeted late last night and also sent this email to the Secretary of the RST at 1:30am last night:

"Thank you for your e-mail and introduction. We have purposely avoided and public comments until today because we didn't see the benefit in talking until we knew more about where we were internally. At an early stage, there really is not much value in public statements.

Unfortunately, that did not keep people from talking about us. We read with some humor many of the stories, opinions and rumors about Club 9 Sports. Some of it was accurate, much of it was fictional or factually inaccurate. Regardless, as you may have seen, we were never going to bid on the club ourselves. We were working with a group of people in the US and UK for a few weeks to take a hard look at the deal but that group decided not to move forward.

I just wanted to thank you for reaching out and to say that any smart owner (no matter which side of the pond) will most certainly want to work with your group and others to ensure the fans, supporters and followers are an integral part of the plans for rangers. After all, they are the most important asset of the club

Warm Regards,
Job

Jon L. Pritchett
CEO/Operating Partner
Club 9 Sports, LLC"

Bad news if Club 9 think your not even worth liquidating

Jesus. Obviously been reading the dr website. "drubs and drabs". Etc. Scotland must look like a banana republic ... This is making a laughing stock of us all.

"This is making a laughing stock of us all"

Only of RFC/Administration process. Mind you, setting up a Fighting Fund then giving the payment link to Custard the Clown's website was a noteable contibution on the fans' part.