Rangers Rumours Archive February 05 2012

05 Feb 2012 23:15:32
Besides the tax case for once, and after the poor performance today i believe he should give mckay a chance! A regular for Australia at left mid, get him playing instead of wylde and celik!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhZ6pY62zOc

He still cant even get on the bench, never mind the team, and that is with all the injuries, and all the players that are away....Little and Kerkar are ahead of McKay and Bedoya

To be honest lads i recon these players were recomended to mccoist. He looks like an established player with the desire to play but is he one of allys signings?. poor standards.

If Ally signed Bedoya,McKay and Ortiz...he should walk....simples.

They should give mckay a go,cant be any worse than edu,mcculloch,wylde.

I agree, we should be giving McKay a chance, keep with Celik as I think he could do a job for us, as for Wylde, he is absolute pish, should never be near the first team.

McKay was a very good pick up. His form at the time was his career best. McCoist did not capitalize on this. One reason being the Asian Cup, amongst other things. So it seemed it wasn't really his fault McKay
never played. But then he did play. Very well for someone who had been patiently waiting. First game, goal assist whipped in and placed on Jelevic's (from memory) head. Then that was that. No more Matt. So, to me it seemed it wasn't enough to create a goal scoring opportunity, McCoist must been expecting Brian Laudrup. Well he's missed out on something special, Matt was playing brilliantly.

GoldCoastBhoy

05 Feb 2012 23:00:28
Where was the missing 30,000 fans today when we needed them
Glory hunters shocking to see the empty spaces can understand early kick off bla bla
Bet if it was the beggars a full house shame on you

Whos the beggars now

You do talk a load of boll*cks, if Celtic we're in the same situation do you seriously think Parkhead would have been full today. I don't blame the fans for staying away, why give Whyte our money when we don't know what he is doing with it. Would you renew a season ticket not knowing if Rangers will even still be around in a few months time (God Forbid). I am not a glory hunter, i just work hard for my dosh and will not throw it away.

Fans way of Boycotn only way we are going to b heard, no fans= no ticket sales=no money in mr whytes pockets, why should we have to pay 500 a month for season tickets then Pay extra for cup game tickets and he cant even tell loyal fans the truth!

True 30,000 missing fans most are glory hunters these days the guy who replied needs to take a good look at himself no makin excuses

What's that got to do with supporting your team ? Guys who go to games have my respect they work hard to and spend it watching them . Glory hunters don't !

Time to dissapear and be counted and if that makes me a glory hunter its cost me thousands m8 like the other 29.999 iv'e had enough maybe time for this old boy to learn the playstation.

Away you go wee man id rather give my money to the bookie than give it to craig white the man who is destroying rangers.

I think a full scale protest is needed everyone comes on here ranting and raving about whyte but nothing gets done all words think we need to up the stakes and sand some answers

Im sick of hearing folk this aw u dont go to every game ur not a true fan what a load of crap I support rangers always have but my life dosnt revolve around rangers and i object to paying extra for cup games espcially when its on tv nothing to do with whyte personally I wouldnt give ally my money with the way hes performed

If rangers got to the final the missing 30,000
Would want a ticket are they not glory hunters ?

Although 17000 in stadium would be interesting to know how many tickets sold I.e people on continuous credit for Scottish cup but cause it was on council tele decoded against going

The real fans were there yesterday
Armchair fans weren't .
That's the difference between going
And pretending to be a fan

I already pay �480 for my season ticket I think that they should include these games that's why I don't go they just want more and more a dont get payed a lot so can't afford to pay extra for cup games , it doesn't matter how the team are playing a would still go if I could afford it

Sorry....but these people that didnt turn up maybe just dont have the money to spend on this type of thing when its on the TV....so glory hunters or not, they are entitled to protest or not afford it. dont take the morale high ground when you dont know peoples situations in this current climate

I have a season ticket and i didnt go, if you go to every match no matter what then not only does it make you loyal, it makes you a mug. Whyte has banked on the fact that we are all going to run along and give him season book renewals so the best way to vote against that is not buying tickets.

Plus the fact, most of the people on here who claim to have a season book dont, its always the ones that shout loudest.

Ill give Whyte aw my extra dough just as soon as he sheds some light on why he has been a complete waster in the transfer market.

I go to every home game and I live in England but work on Sundays.

I Paid over �800 to rangers this season for myself and my young son. It was never gauranteed that i would see success and trophies like inthe past 3 seasons however i was never told that we would look to sell any player who was capable of delivering success to the club. The sale of Jelevic and not bringing in a replacement is nothing short of a disgrace. We have 1 fit striker who is 4th choice at best so why should i pay extra money to watch an amateur team struggle to play football and score goals.

Its not that i dont want to go.... Its just to painfull to watch!!!!

Craig Whyte must stay.... :-)

Hail Hail!

I think a lot is being made of the attendance yesterday. Let's not forget, the numbers for home cup games have been consistently poor for years.

It was not a protest of any description people staying away - it is more a comment of the decline of both cup competitions in this country.

I am a season ticket holder, and I was there on Sunday, and I stayed until the end. However, that doesn't necessarily make me a better fan than some of the others who didn't show up. �15 extra is a lot to pay for cup games such as these, especially those on "council telly".

I would say that those talking about not renewing season tickets maybe need to seriously think about how much they truly support the club however. It is the club you are supporting by renewing your season ticket, not Craig Whyte. This is regardless of whatever financial concoction Whyte has created with borrowing against assumed season ticket sales.

If people do not renew, do you honestly think it is Whyte that would ultimately be hurt in the pocket? It would be the club of course.

Everyone is entitled to be critical after Sunday's performance, and the disastrous transfer window debacle, but get behind the team. If we don't do that then the club truly will disappear.

The piggery is always dead! you go look at any of their highlights from this season bar the old firm.... their stadium is always half empty... get your facts right.... I bet this was the only game you have been to this season.....if you are going to slate your own fans make sure you know what your talking about....

I didnt go to this game yesterday but sit in the copland stand every weekend, buy food and drinks, pay for european games, buy three football tops a season as well as shorts, socks, training tops and even a match day programme every other week.

If you were i real fan and went to the game every other week... you would know how us fans who go every other week feel.

I'm disgusted by your comment... how dare you not call me a real fan because i didnt go to one game this season....

WATP not we bams like you!

Well said. like yourself i have a season ticket and decided when renewing that i'd give the Scottish cup games a miss this year due to the cost and the fact i have a life outside of football. This decision was made well before all the problems just now. What i want to know is where are all the folk that claim to be fans that say they can't normally get tickets. That would be the perfect game for these people to go to

I'm an uber fan best seats
At ibrox never miss a game
Unlike the armchair support

I have paid literally a small fortune to Rangers over the last (almost 35 years) in season tickets, Rangers kits for my kid, food, Programmes, Rangers TV etc etc.I refused to go the game as a matter of principle. I am just a regular supporter(Christ, i remember going to the games before the Souness era - that was tough). So a glory hunter i certainly ain't. But neither am i zipped up at the back of the head in relation to where my money goes. Mr Whyte needs to come clean and explain exactly what is going on, instead of letting the papers come up with what it thinks is going on (Maybe they are closer to the mark than we think - who knows), And until CW clears this up then the media are gonna run and run with the story. McCoist is suffering without financial backing, he can't bring in the players he would like, remember his so called A and B list, well I think he has been shopping in his D list. What else can he do? Tell us what is going on Mr Whyte and then i will think about renewing my season ticket. If you don't then borrowing against future season ticket allocation money might just as well have been the stupidest mistake you could have made. We wait with baited breath Mr Whyte............

Fans go regardless of income or job
Excuses
Gers need fans thro the gate
No feckin stayaways

Real fans also question where their money is being spent/going, and do not fritter their cash away with their eyes shut. Gers might need money - but Gers is owned by Mr Whyte (in case you have forgotten) and i don't trust him one bit. Most of the fans here have spent an awful lot of money with Rangers over the many years and if they vote with feet then so be it (They are entitled to do it). Might make Mr Whyte sit up and take notice of their feelings about what they are/not being told. No excuses? If your obsessed and want to throw you're cash at Whytes feet, then by all means do it. I paid alot for my season ticket and will not give him one penny more unless the truth is told.

It's numpties like you that has Craig Whyte rubbing his hands together in glee. No matter what he does, the over zealous, blue tinted specs mob will throw their money his way because you think it being disloyal to Rangers not to. Anyone who chooses not to follow this way of thinking is "no a real rangers fan" etc. You need to seriously find a hobby other than football and relax a little.

To all the armchair fans hope you lot
Don't turn up for the Celtic game all these
Glory hunters aren't welcome back
Real fans only please in ally we trust

True blue hear
Why could 30000
Fans not go ?
Sure it was on tv you would expect not a full
Stadium but a much much better turnout

I have a Season Ticket and have had for 23 years and I didnt go to the game, so am I a glory hunter after all the money I have spent on season tickets, strips, european packages, programmes, away games, pies and bovrils? Unfortunately I have been paid off as have hundreds of thousands of others in the UK, but I wonder if all they still all spend the same amount of money on the luxuries they used to? Now away and hang your bloody head in shame!

I was there pal as I've said their may be genuine reasons for not going but 30,000 can't have therefore if we beat utd and got Celtic a mad 30000 would want a ticket therefore they are without doubt glory hunters it's not my fault you were made unemployed maybe u weren't good at your job

05 Feb 2012 22:28:34
today was an absolute shambles,
we have no leaders in the team,too many players playing out of position and totally clueless not to mention useless,we can criticise whyte all we want but these charlatans gave us nothing today on the pitch

05 Feb 2012 22:08:52
And what does Ian durrant actualy do ??

Ally's the organ grinder, and durranty's his wee monkey.

Trying to phone 30,000 glory hunters who were absent today

Swans about the district bar talking a good game. Him n ally n mcdowal should step down as they cannot handle it. Who comes in I don't know. Neil warrnock if we could afford him would be great but doubt he'd consider it

He is a coach

Races pigeons on a tuesday.

He is re building the brick work at murray park.

He calls people Coisty, Sounessy, Davisy etc, his brains cells are lacking in number.

Love you all Timmy, chartered accountant x

Durant was one of the greatest midfielders to come out of scotland, he is a great coach worked and played with some of the greatest players to play in scotland, as for u timothy, come on here and slate us all you want but the fact of the matter is rangers have been in a bad way financially for 3 going on 4 years, how many titles have you won in that time ? and how much have yous spent tryin to win it ? aye exactly pal, and now that wee are actually a baw hair away from admin yous are still only 1 point clear in the league ? we the gers are down at the moment but by no means out, our great team will rally again and take the title for a 4th year in a row, always remember fellow bears, we are;

Durrant was a decent player, not one of the best to come out of Scotland. He picked up a bad injury then came back half the player he was. No fault in that as the op at the time was hit and miss. He does not do that much anyway.

05 Feb 2012 21:37:59
Walter Smith, Martin Bain and someone who I'm told is a big financier in Oran Mor today deep in conversation. Just a guess but could they possibly be planning a rescue bid if we go into admin?

If any well known people were planning anything they are hardly going to have a meeting about it in public :/

Eh no, where did you get that from ?

Martin bain helping RANGERS please not possible were where we are bkose of him

Highland Bear

Lets say many people are wanting to dig deep but until the books are balanced and the tax man squared no one will touch them untill whyte gets the the books sorted cause thats his job for now

Much more likely they were discussiong what to have for lunch!

05 Feb 2012 21:13:10
Mccoist MUST shoulder the blame! HE is the manager! HE is responsible for TACTICS, was that evident today? Well it was on national TV for all to see. HE is responsible for MOTIVATION, was that evident today? again it was on national TV for all to see.
YES Mccoist WAS a legend as a player and for that reason people are unwilling to give him a hard time, WHY?
Yes there is problems in the boardroom, but this has nothing to do with the players. It could have an impact on their careers but dont you think this would make them play better to showcase what they can do? I think Alkuko is doing just that!
Today was the poorest rangers team I have ever seen. Never mind Whyte coming clean, Mccoist needs to come clean over his signings! WHY do they not make the bench? have they picked up Murrayparkeitist? (The make believe "injury" that ALL rangers new signings seem to ppick up??)
Change of MANAGER and a change of CAPTAIN (Davis has ZERO motivational impact or drive!)
The next few days/weeks shall be interesting....

Think everything you have just said has come from the mouth of a celtic supporter or perhaps a half hearted rangers supoporter - man up

Everything I've said is true. Perhaps your a rangers fan that enjoys watching diddies? face the truth!

McCoist did/does get tactics wrong left back at left mid,left mid at right mid etc.We are the only team that seems to do this when no real need ie we have players for the positions but dont play them. As for Davis no where near captain material never shouts orders or anything not like captains of old if u made a bad pass they let you know.Today we conceded 2 goals and not once did he say anything just turned away and walked back to position with head down shocking.Think McGregor should be captain at least he would not be afraid to let them know how he feels.

Im no celtic fan ive had a season ticket at ibrox for 15 years, ally is and always will be a legend at our club, but he's not a manager, if walter smith was still in charge today, we would have ground out a win, there was nothing today, aluko+edu apart(yes edu!), we need someone who can get thevbest out off this squad.

Away you go ya bam there isn't a manager in the world who could get a good game out of the bams employed at rangers lack of funding is evident today I mean ally didn't exactly have a huge list to choose from and motivation takes a wee dent when there is constant talk of your current employers going into administration

I can see this from both sides. Yes, Ally is being severely denied any money for decent players but right at this moment in time we need a manager who can get the best out of what we have which clearly may not be good enough to beat tinny to the spl title but should be more than good enough to beat every other spl side. The lack of leaders worries me and Davis should never be Captain. We also can't play football, struggle to put two passes together and we simply are not creating enough chances, especially at Ibrox where to be quite honest our home form warrants a sacking on that alone.

Whyte must go in ally we trust.

05 Feb 2012 20:59:42
we all knew ally was a rookie, but he durranty an
kenny mcdowell were totally clueless as how to
change the tactics or the shape of the team.
a good manager could get more from the players
at our disposal. love ally but its taking its toll on
him physically and he is out of his depth im afraid

Was shockin to watch ... but a think we should change our management and scouts and coaching staff we Defo need to start a fresh here mabey a foreign manager that prides his tactics on attacking attractive football and who has got his team promotion no by defending but attacking , and playing football by composure and crisp passing. In scouts a would sack the lot. There is talent out there in lower leagues around the world in if they had decent scouts surly they would be better than what we had on the bench enbaresment for Glasgow rangers .... build the team r ound Davis and aluko football is to play with no fear and if you get scared then don't put on a jersey,lot of pish we shat it fae the first whistle

Example? Play McGregor up front? Put Healy in Goal? What is he meant to do with no decent striker in the squad? Dundee Utd played with 6 defending at a time, so without a player with a good forwards brain, we were never gonna crack that defence open today with the squad we've got. We need to sign a decent forward, simple as

Keep the faith lads use r world beaters remember, that was comedy gold still pmsl!!

"durranty" as you call him is the biggest problem not a clue

As far as i was aware Ian Durrant was quite a good coach. Today was tough to watch but i don't think changing the manager would really change anything.

Would any manager want to take the job with the tax case still not concluded. It is tough times at the moment but as a real supporter u support through good and bad.

CJM

As a celtic supporter I generally enjoy watching rangers struggle however as a human being it is not fun watching the toll this is taking on coisty. he should pack the job in before it drags him down, any reasonable person would understand such a decision, no job is worth it.

Players at our disposal ??? Don't make me bloody laugh what players at our disposal ??

To be fair we experienced this problem with Lennon last year, tactics were non existent which was clear to see after hiding we got in Europe, Ally may not be helping the current situation atm but is best for the long run, expect a lot more tactical awarness next season and I'm sure its not going to be too long till he gets a string of wins together builds confidence and rangers will then be in better shape.

05 Feb 2012 20:25:43
What do rangers do in training do they just run because there is a lack of skill and tactics in the team they play not as a team but 11 individuals

05 Feb 2012 20:17:47
Very interesting interview in Sunday Times with Mr Whyte. I am now convinced that he will put the club into administation and declare Rangers F.C bankrupt but hev will come back with a new name and no debt what a mess

Castle greyskull crumbles by the day but still white dont go away i just cant get enough.

I hope Mr Whyte realises that going down this road also means our proud history is wiped out too, 54 league titles gone, we will start as a new entity in 2012, very bad times indeed

05 Feb 2012 20:12:10
Ally McCoist has accepted a job from Sky Sports as a co-commentator / analysis, the rumours about his resignation are true and will be confirmed this Wednesday.

Probably for the best if todays non management performnce is the future.

Wit is ally getting andy grays old job then shut up ya doughnut stay of this rumour site and go back tae breeding pigeons in yer grans shed

If only that were true

What the f..k can he comment or analyse on he's useless unless their talking about steak bakes or monster munch....DH

Im a rangers fan ive just seen sky sports a few days ago ally said he wouldnt leave but if he did i wouldnt be suprised

Bucking Follocks!

Why wait till wednesday when it is something he should have done at 2pm today? Face it, we are gonna suffer big time, Ally will stay, Whyte will ruin us. only wish it was May already!

Listen we heard this last wk saying mccoist was gonna quit last wednesday mever happened and it will not be confirmed this wednesday so stop posting lies after lies this has got to be worst rumour sire evet not one is ever true

05 Feb 2012 19:52:53
Koumas cud b available on a free he wud b class in da SPL y dnt mccoist offer him a deal.


N.i lad

Why dont you speak the queens english son.??

God sake....... Is it going to sink in? We haven't got any money! GET REAL!

Y did mccoist bid 500k 4 Holt if we have no cash and he wud b free so only need wages

Y did mccoist bid 500k 4 Holt if we have no cash and he wud b free so only need wages

To the last poster, r u for real? �500k for a prem player is like bidding �10k up here. No way was that ever goin to be accepted. Rangers are signing no one of any worth. See today n the great
Marvin

Because rangers knew the bid would be rejected.........! Get real,

05 Feb 2012 18:17:41
Craig Whyte's interview in today's Scotland on Sunday leaves a lot of questions still unanswered.

Paul Murray has previously claimed that Ticketus transfered £24.4m into Craig Whyte's solicitors client account prior to Whyte buying Rangers. I see no reason as to why Paul Murray would lie.

Why would Whyte arrange this BEFORE buying Rangers. The only reason I can see is as a way of providing proof of funding to Lloyds pay of the Rangers debt to Lloyds of £18m.

Don't talk crap how he hell could he. If he had not bought Rangers how could he borrow money from ticketus. .

This is what Paul Murray, former Rangers director claimed in his interview in the DR. He states that documentary evidence was shown to him by HMRC during an interview with them. Why would Murray lie.

Ticketus could quire easily do this on the undertaking from Whyte that on completion of buying Rangers these funds would be trasnfered to Ticketus for the advance purchase of season books. If the deal didn't go through Whyte's solicitors would return the money. As the money didn't transfer to Whyte at this time but was in his solicitors client account, there would be littel risk to Ticketus.

Does no one realise that by Whyte puting rangers in more debt to him he puts himself in a great position as major creditor if rangers go into administration.he takes the money from octopus.puts it off shore with little chance of trace and sits on it till after administration.rangers then owe that money if hmrc come calling which eventually means less money for them.Whyte then uses off shore money to re finance club and walks away with profit.

Eeeeer?? why would Paul Murray lie? are you kiddin me on?

He has PLENTY of reason to lie, i.e. he had what he called a rival bid which was just bluster.

Do not listen to the ex board members fellow bears, where were all of them when Rangers needed them most.

Craig Whyte is leaving us in the dark but dont forget who put us in this mess, it wasnt our current owner i can tell you that much.

Lets not lose sight here, he IS leaving us in the dark but he IS the only one who put the money on the table when we were on our knees.

He hasnt told us of the actual plan yet but one thing he said that he HAS stuck to is that, we cannot operate or plan without knowing the outcome of the tax case, which we dont know yet.

Also, Ally McCoist isnt blameless here. He has appointed Davis as captain who IMO, is never captain material. Ally also has a group of players who have forgotten to play football, that has nothing to do with finances. I sat and watched our team against Aberdeen, passing the ball sideways from LB to RB. This is a managerial problem, if Kenny Shiels can do it at Killie then Ally should be able to do it here.

I wouldnt mind Keny Shiels as a manager actually.

Caolbear

Paul Murray is one of the reasons we are in this mess of course he will lie & lie again like Bain & the rest do you realy want these b@#t@!%s back

05 Feb 2012 18:11:43
Well i think today proves lennon is far ahead of ally at the managing game. When celtic were at their very worst and 3-0 nil down to killie we saw the real ability lennon has to get the bhoys motivated and turn a terrible start around, on the other hand ally has failed to do it time and again, today the latest and most obvious episode.

The difference is Ally had nobody on the bench capable of making a difference....Kerkar? Little? Wylde?

Its just not good enough, Ally is working with his hands firmly tied behind his back, get Whyte out of our club!

Hes got 40 players in his squad, and had his full team on that park, they scored 2 fluke goals then got a scrappy 3rd, they STILL shouldv lost, but they holded on.. wer down to the bear bone here....no amount of talking wouldv got us back in that game today.

We have nobody to bring on that will change the game. Ally will learn as lennon has, have faith

Why is Ally working with his hands tied behind his back?

Cos his team failed in Europe not once but twice to 2 teams that were simply awful! You only have to look at how these teams performed in the Europa League( 1 point each and bottom of their group) to realise how badly Ally has managed the club. Not too mention a league cup defeat to Falkirk
1 win in 6 cup matches all against so called inferior sides

Rangers have outspent celtic by over �7 million pounds in the las t 5 years so where are the players we have spent money on.

We have sold our top 3 scorers in the last 3 seasons. Boyd, Miller and Jelavic. We have so much bad publicity and administration hanging over us. That must affect players. Celtic hold onto all their top players, we keep losing ours. Not a hope in hell.

Wow, still he hasnt won the league since being manager has he. Dont need to be a good manager to mange the old firm, a great manager was Walter Smith who despite not having a lot of money, still managed to stop Lennon win the SPL...

No real facts to back that up really, they have 2 players for every position that are like for like and more on stand-by, he also did not win the league in his 1st season as McCoist probably wont, but then what do you say if rangers manage to survive this farce and win the league next season, do you then say that McCoist is better than Lennon, and no offence but celtic and Lennon do not have the problems that Rangers and McCoist face so i dont really think you can compare situations.

Away n ckean the Jobby frim ur gub!
When u were 3-0 down to Killie u had the majority of ur 46 man squad available and a full bench of 7 players unlike the 5 we had to choose from and Heffernan missed a sitter at death so u were lucky to even draw when were 2-1 down V ur lot at Half Time when we had a full squad and starting 11 that included Naismith, Jelavic and Lafferty and McCoists team talk delivered a second half that we won 3-0, 4 if u counted Laffertys other goal that was wrongly ruled out for offside.
Mccoist P2 W1 D0 L1 F4 A3 so I think u will find its 1-1 ya pie
Theglasgowranger

05 Feb 2012 17:41:54
why did craig whyte buy the club when he does not have the money to help us get out or problems.this man should never have been allowed to buy the club when he did not have the money to be able to help solve the problems."lloyds" tsb should hang there heads in shame because however offered to cover the 18 million first was given control of the club no matter what happens."whyte" seen a man spend 100 million of his own money on the club and he was not be able to keep us out of financial trouble and he thinks he can do better with no money.i think he thought he was going to become the rangers fergus mccann.the difference is mccann had the money to help celtic solve there problems.until someone or a group of people with huge personal fortunes come forward to offer "whyte" a way out then i think we are only going to get worse on the playing field.he shown he has no hesitation in selling players and will not spend on players until our running costs and debt are reduced which could be a very long time.we need someone or a group to come in and spend money outwith the club so the club can concentrate on using there funds to pay off debts.

In these hard financial times who is going to invest in this financial mess,at best we will see debt clearence and no investment on new anything very dark times ahead

Craig whyte was the only person willing too pay rangers debt, basically we can go bust and people are moaning because we arent signing anyone!

Spent �100 million of his own money! Really

How come we ended up �80 million in debt? That would be because he wanted his money back! It was at best an interest free loan under the guise of being a rich benefactor!

Murray should follow Fred Goodwin and lose his knighthood when the tax case is lost!

05 Feb 2012 17:22:53
Complain about attitude, performance of the team and manager that is fine, but to put the club down on what the newspapers say is stupid, unless you have proof or know for sure and can prove it.
The papers have been building this up and may be right but lets not burn the scarfs until it is proven .
Dont listen to the last board memebers either they are the ones that sanctioned all the debts that are causing the problems, they are upset because they have lost the gravy boat to a great financial way of life

Lets not burn the scarves at all man WTF you on about ?

It's not the newspapers that are saying it - it is quotes from former directors of the club.

Gravy train mate

05 Feb 2012 16:51:54
was disappointed in ally's post match interview. after watching that rubbish i was hoping ally would rip into the players but he just used the line of dundee utd performed well. we are a shambles from back to front and our season is now OVER!

Worst gers team ever ally to go take mervan with him rotten

Coudn't disagree mate, totally embarassing

05 Feb 2012 16:31:32
I know that my club are in the sh&t, we know we have little money, but for a club to have one fit striker is unbelievable. It is gross negligence that somebody decided that we need not replace jelavic, it is beyond belief.
Whyte is getting no more money from me, for the first time in 41 years I will not be renewing my season ticket, and won't buy another until this situation is resolved. I am not prepared to give my £2k to a liar and a con man.
Incidentally the silence from Sir DM is deafening. Hope he is sitting in his villa in the south of France and hope he is ashamed. Sadly I fear that he could not give a damn.
Sir DM and his board, now Whyte and his cronies, are a damn disgrace and they should be made to hear what we think of this loudly and clearly. We need the fans to own the club, our club should never be owned by one man again.

I'm with u pal. i have not missed a home game at ibrox for 5 seasons until today. i even turned the tv off at half time in total shock at how bad we are. we may have big problems off field but we should still have the resources to beat dundee utd for god sake. 2-0 did not flatter them, that says it all!

Perhaps if you had subscribed to the last share issue you wouldnt be in this mess - when your club needed you the response was massively underwhelming.

Bye, you won't be missed. A real fan may get your season ticket then.

You some up my feelings exactly, as a season ticket for 27 years, I will also not be renewing my season ticket. Some of the decision making at Rangers beggers belief, eg getting rid of Kenny Miller for �300k was a disgrace, the god send with that we somehow managed to win the SPL.

But we did win the league, and will again!

Maybe you won't have a club to buy a season ticket for in a couple of weeks.
You deserve better.
Now, I better take my tongue out of my cheek before I choke. Pmsl.
Jelly n ice cream.

Fans are hurting as the realisation sets in that they have been taken for a ride firstly by DM now by a conman. Anger is understandable.

That's the attitude when ur club needs u walk away.
Where are the people lol
GBNL
YNWA
JELLY AND ICE CREAM FOR ALL

Think it's unfair for some fans to criticise other fans when they talk about not renewing their season tickets. The fans have been short changed and treated badly over the years and it's unfair to expect fans to part with their hard earned cash when players put in performances like today. �500 on average for a season ticket and you don't know what you might be watching next year. Times are tough financially for all fans just now and if the players don't seem to care about the club how can you expect the fans to support them

Think some fans need to remember they weren't lining up asking to pay more money for their season tickets when we had laudrup,gazza,numan,mols,de boers etc.so why moan now when the goings tough?stick with your team when they need you most.

05 Feb 2012 14:41:39
Their is no money to pay the tax bill let's face it we have been shafted by Whyte and his gang why did he bring in Ellis . With the wage he will be getting prob could have signed 2 players a can smell a rat ... Kingbilly boy

Go and read a proper interview in the scotsman! truth! stop blaming whyte and look at the facts!

Nonsense...... White is trying to clean up the mess left behind, he doesn't have a magic wand.
Think he should start by sacking Ali........

Well if the Scotsman has all the answers it's the only rag that knows for a start murry pi..ed of Whyte took over promised this promised that we have nout to show for it . Used 4 years season ticket the fans money were is the mOney tell us that ...Kingbilly boy

The scotsman interview on whyte just makes him out to be even more of a liar, and i will tell you why.
He took the debt from lloyds at 18m and never paid it, just took the debt on to one of his companys, so the bankers banksheet should have been even. he gets 24m from ticketus and claims he is putting 25m of his own money into the team over 5 years probably front loading a lot of it if needed, this would take our balance to 50m, we have an anual turnover of 35m to handle the club running costs and whyte already said there is a 10m black hole ok so lets take 10m away from the 50m that should be in our bank, ok that leaves u with 40m spare.... WHERE IS IT??? ok some might say the stadium upgrades this year, the new players and the new contracts, ok so we take that away from the balance to... say 10m all in (estimate) that should give us 30m on the bank sheet... WHERE IS IT MR WHYTE?? my fellow bears wake up!! lies lies lies lies, where is all the money? where is the promises? lies lies lies, lets do something before its to late, please

Well said boys, this guys a crook and i aint gony believe anything else until i see proof.

its proof we want CW, not statements, we want audited books from rangers and your firms involved, we want a agm and we want it now.

if you want our backing and any more money from us, back the playing squad, back ally and run us properly. i can take the cant tell you everything etc.

with loyds in charge and ali johnston running us we still signed quality, the squad was small yes but we had quailty and fresh players. we were also being run properly. the debt was coming down and it was becoming managble, yes the tax thing was there but that will care of itself one way or the other who ever was in charge.

now CW is in, our squad is smaller our debts are greater, wheres the money and our money at that.


this guy is going to asset strip us and walk away with a wee pot of gold. guys take aff the blue blinkers and see what this guy is doing to us.

rangers is a way of life for us and its breaking my heart

Good see see fellow gers supporting me about this head case Whyte thanks again point am putting across it's all his hench men smith ally Russell Ellis could somebody please tell me why Ellis is hear Kingbilly boy

Whyte is here simply as no one else thats right NO one else came forward ! Why do people find that so hard to accept ? The Bank knew the mess DM had made and was looking to leave and any self respecting businessman would have NOTHING to do with such a toxic business. So we got what the mess the club was in deserved....a chancer ! Why the incredulity over this ?Not so much "no one likes us and we don't care" but just "no one wants us".

Still does not explain why Ellis was brought everthingh he touches falls apart . Don't see any brightlight at end of the tunnel . Hole thing is a farce . Murry has alot to answer to ... Kingbilly boy

05 Feb 2012 14:39:34
to all the people saying that us bears who didnt go should be ashamed - are you serious? Should the players on £10,000 a week not feel ashamed, rather than the poor bear who has aready forked out £500 for a season book?

lets aim our anger at craig liar and ask him why he kids on to bid for players (cuellar, goodwillie, verhoek, juhasz, conway and holt) when he cant give an estonian right back a contract for £3500 a week.

He and the players should be ashamed, not the bears fans. Get a grip.

Spot on mate 100%

Hear Hear well said m8 enoughs enough lets keep it going and let him see were serious

He's banking on our loyalty and passion, taking us all for a ride

A walked out the game lasted bout 70 mins n was like f"ck this ave seen more than enough spoke to few ppl who's sayin there no going bk again tae whyte leaves n the teams improve can we blame them really after that display

That will be a long wait I think !

05 Feb 2012 14:31:44
Ally shouldnt get the chance to resign coz he should be sacked after that pi55h today !

Sir alex or pep guardiola couldn't get that lot to start winning, i have been saying for ages that this rangers side is hopeless and we have no quality whatsoever. you can talk about confidence, off=-field problems, tactics, bottom line is the team is shocking

In order for McCoist to be a good manager, he needs the support of the backroom staff (Craig Whyte) which he does not have. Whyte is more concerned for the tax bill and therefore could not give McCoist the funds for more players.

Why does he keep playing wallace and papac on the left not one of them is any good at going forward, only players that tried was aluko and edu

They might play people in their right postions

It's not all ally's fault, he's got nothin to work with. Little n kerkar comin on proves that.

How on earth can you blame ally your vision is clouded my friend

Someone with experience would have told his players not to lump balls in to the box for heally, he's not exactly know for his arial prowess!

Totally AGREE with u didnt want him from start bring in billy davies

2 many players just strolling about,papac bartley edu healy all duds no tactics or urgency about the game,cups & league are lost move over mc coist let someone else show Rangers players how the game should be played instead of humping the ball up the park all the time,mc millan who left would have slotted into defence easily and Hutton for Edu would have been another good switch and my grandad up as striker

05 Feb 2012 14:23:04
Season over, Whyte has to come out and let the supporters know what he's planning to do, is he holding the money back for the Tax man, he promised McCoist £5m last summer to spend on players but instead he's ruining a great club, WHYTE TELL THE SUPPORTERS THE TRUTH OR LEAVE,

Copland Front

He will not pay the tax man. The club will go into administration

Scotsman interview with Craig Whyte
Craig Whyte ends a difficult week with a candid discussion with Tom English, on where the season ticket money has gone, the Jelavic deal and the future of Rangers

Q: It’s been a bruising week for you. Tickets and tax and rumours and innuendo. Your manager was on the verge of walking out. Or maybe not...

A: Yeah, you hear all these stories that he’s ready to pack it in and it’s total crap. These rumours got so strong during the week that even my sister called me and said she’d heard that Ally had resigned. I told her it was rubbish. Ally and I talk regularly and he’s very, very determined and very, very focused. I don’t know why people don’t want to believe that.

Q: OK, let’s kick-off with one of the questions of the week. It’s been revealed that you raised �24.4 million in much-needed funds by pre-selling tranches of Rangers season tickets for the next four seasons...

A: It was closer to �20m, but carry on.

Q: Right, �20m then. What have you done with the money? Where is it?

A: We’ve got running costs somewhere in the region of �3.5m a month. That’s what it costs to keep the lights on. People don’t understand the business side of football. They’re all very quick to go and criticise but nobody else was prepared to step up to the plate and I guess if you look over the last week you can understand why.

Q: People want to know where the ticket money has gone...

A: Well, OK, I won’t do it line by line but I’ll give you some examples. There’s a �10m funding hole that needs to be filled. I’ve said that before. I have nothing to apologise for. This is the reality of the club. There was several million that had to be repaid from an old ticket arrangement from the previous board. There were things like transfer payments. We still owed �1m to Rapid Vienna from when we bought Nikica Jelavic. We owed �1m on the James Beattie signing. Believe me, every single penny of the Ticketus money has stayed in the club. What I want to get across is that the fans’ money is safe, it’s underwritten by one of my companies and everything I do is in the best long-term interests of the club.

Q: Mortgaging season tickets is a high-risk strategy, though. Clubs do it, but on this scale? What if season tickets sales plummet? Do you fear a season ticket boycott?

A: No, why would there be?

Q: It would be understandable if Rangers fans were spooked. This is the allegation, that you used the Ticketus money to fund your takeover of the club...

A: No, from the messages I’ve had I don’t think people believe that. The occasional person, maybe. I know Ally said on Friday that this is the time to rally round the club. This is going to be a tough few weeks and we need everybody with us and on the whole that’s what people are doing. The allegation is wrong. Anybody with half a brain would figure that one out. The sale of the club went through prior to the arrangement for the tickets. It’s absurd. Do you think Lloyds and Sir David Murray would have given me the time of day if I hadn’t proved I had the money?

Q: You say you lodged �28m in a bank account as proof of funds during the negotiating process?

A: I think it was closer to �33m actually.

Q: Your own money from your own personal wealth?

A: Yes, that was done as far back as November 2010.

Q: Can you prove it?

A: I can, yes.

Q: Can you e-mail me the documents and kill some conspiracies?

A: I see what you’re getting at and there might be some benefit in doing that. Let me think about it. I’ll give it some consideration.

Q: I’ve asked you before about your personal wealth and you told me to get lost. Fair enough. But can you blame people for being suspicious when they see you selling off chunks of season tickets just to keep the club going? You’ve been described – hysterically – as a billionaire with wealth off the radar. Why are you selling your chief goal-scorer?

A: The billionaire thing has caused me no end of problems in all sorts of areas. It didn’t come from me. I can promise you that. It was reported last week that my PR people once tried to tell newspapers that I’m a billionaire but I just don’t believe that. I don’t talk about my personal wealth to anybody and so I didn’t tell a PR company to go and say that. It’s been used against me now. It’s making me look silly. People assume that I said it and I didn’t say it. I would never say it. I never claimed to be any such thing, but even if I was I wouldn’t necessarily handle the situation any differently. Rangers needs to be a long-term sustainable business and that’s the bottom line. The club needs to change.

Q: Do you rue the day you darkened Sir David Murray’s door?

A: There are days where you say “Why did I bother!” On the whole, though, I think it’s going to be tremendously satisfying to pull this through and achieve what I set out to do. I’ve made mistakes. We all do. When I look at it with hindsight there are things I would do differently. I should have spoken about the magnitude of the problem earlier, but on the other hand we were challenging to win the title and I didn’t want to be Mr Negative.

Q: The magnitude of the problem. Ally spoke on Friday about the club’s “serious, serious predicament” with HMRC and about how “the welfare of the club is the most important thing – greater than getting results”. That’s a fairly profound statement...

A: Yeah, I agree with him. This has the potential to be the toughest few weeks in the club’s history.

Q: You’re expecting a verdict from HMRC in the next few weeks?

A: Possibly.

Q: So you’re in full-on crisis mode?

A: I wouldn’t say crisis is the right word. Not at the moment. But we’re certainly in the toughest time in the club’s history. The next few weeks. I’d definitely say that much.

Q: Ally has said that he doesn’t know what your battle plan is in the event of the HMRC verdict going against the club. Why not tell him?

A: Well, you know I play my cards close to my chest. Ally and I work closely together and if that situation arises he’ll be the first to know about it. We’re talking about hypotheticals here.

Q: Are you nervous about it?

A: Not nervous at all. There’s a plan in place for any eventuality.

Q: I’ll try again. What’s the plan?

A: I couldn’t go into it. If I publicised it then it would potentially jeopardise what we’re working on. But, remember, I bought the club with this thing hanging over it. I’ve been thinking about it since day one. The long-term interests of the club is what I think about every day.

Q: There is also talk, on top of everything else, of �5m owed in VAT. Are you sitting on a Mount Everest of debt?

A: There’s a lot of media hostility towards myself and Rangers. It irks me sometimes. The VAT thing is rubbish. I have regular dialogue with HMRC about a number of issues, in particular the Employment Benefit Trust case. All sorts of things. I talk to them often, I know exactly what they’re doing and what they’re thinking and there’s no issue on that front.

Q: Right, can we clear up some transfer window stuff?

A: Fire away.

Q: Jelavic has gone for �5.5m. Are Rapid Vienna entitled to a slice of that action?

A: No.

Q: I think �5.5m is a lousy deal for Rangers. He’s really undervalued at that price. Fulham paid between �10m and �12m for Bryan Ruiz last summer and nobody is going to convince me that Ruiz is a better player than Jelavic. What actual bids did you get for him?

A: Two, one from Everton and the other from West Ham. The Everton bid was the best one for the club.

Q: But West Ham bid �7m...

A: Did they?

Q: Didn’t they?

A: Of course it wasn’t �7m. Look, the desire was to get a lot more money for the player but he’s only worth what somebody is prepared to pay for him on a given day. The West Ham bid was a complicated offer with all sorts of strings attached. There were certain things contingent on them getting promoted and we might have had to take one of their players and he was on a high salary. Believe me, I accepted the best bid. He wanted to leave and we needed the money, simple as that. I’ve spoken about the gap in our finances already this week. It’s �10m.

Q: We’ll get back to that, but more transfer stuff. Fran Sandaza, the St Johnstone player, claims that somebody from Rangers contacted him on Tuesday to say you might make another move for him...

A: I don’t know what happened there. If Ally wanted to sign Sandaza on the last day of the transfer window I’d have been happy to sanction that deal. For sure.

Q: You made a move for Gary Holt of Norwich instead. How much did you bid for him?

A: How much do you think?

Q: I heard three figures, �500,000, �600,000 and �1m. I’d go with �600,000.

A: No, it was �1m.

Q: But Norwich had already turned down over �2m for him...

A: I didn’t know that. What I do know was that the player was keen to come but Norwich didn’t want to lose him. That’s fair enough. Look, in years gone by you could have taken a punt in January and said ‘Right I’m going to spend �10m, we’re going to win the league and all that Champions League money will be ours’. But life is not like that anymore. We have to go through two qualifying rounds these days. You could spend �10m and not make it through to the Champions League and that would be painful. As custodian of the club I have to ask if that’s a risk worth taking and I have to say that it’s not. Look at what we did in the past. We spent huge money on duff players. My main ambition here is to get my sleeves rolled up and get on with the turnaround and make it a self-sustaining club.

Q: But if you’re not spending money on players how do you expect to give yourselves a chance of winning the SPL and qualifying for the Champions League, where all the big cash is?

A: The game has changed. The players we bring in should, mostly, be young guys that we can improve and maybe sell on for profit. Like I say, self-sustaining. That’s the way football clubs have to be. We can’t go on with a �10m deficit every season. Somebody had to call a halt to the way things were being done previously.

Q: Missing out on Europe was a shattering blow, right? Did you budget for Champions League money?

A: No, we budgeted for Europa League money which, based on the evidence going back many years, was a perfectly reasonable thing to budget for. That would have got us �5m, maybe a bit less. It never happened. The Champions League might get you �20m, but it goes back to the risk again. Is it worth it?

Q: So missing out on European football was the start of the cash-flow crisis. Is that fair?

A: Not absolutely fair. I think there are issues around that. I think because of all the negative coverage in the media and the tax case hanging over us, business partners who might have paid a year in advance before are now paying month to month and you have creditors who want to be paid quicker. The negativity is having repercussions.

Q: Neil Lennon said on Friday that the chickens are coming home to roost for Rangers now. Years of financial mismanagement have finally caught up on the club. Fair comment?

A: Somebody mentioned that to me. I’m not going to comment on what he said. I don’t think he should... No, you almost lured me into something there. I need to remind myself to be on my guard. airwano

One of the reasons we are in the trouble we are in is signing duds like celik and giving them more money than what they are worth. celik will turn out to be another ortiz or bedoya. i watched on in disbelief at how bad he was.

I smell sh@t more lies

05 Feb 2012 10:53:42
Watched MOTD last night and the reality of big Jelly leaving hit home when I seen him in an Everton shirt. Hopefully a nice wee home win will ease the pain today. I'm banking on Aluko turning it on again like he has done in his last few games.

Barry Barry

Get a grip

Wake up and smell the coffe

How'd that work out for you son?




~Loken8bit~

Alukos pish.fits in well at ibrox,artybhoy

Your pain continues im afraid

05 Feb 2012 10:18:47
It was big Lafferty they tried to sell

05 Feb 2012 05:37:41
i saw a post about Jame Ness, asking about if he's out injured or on loan and to the people who wonder the same i'm certain that i seen him warming up on the side lines at the last Gers game.

He is on loan

He is not on loan !!

Thanks for clearing that up lads!?!

He is injured. he isnt on loan. and to the person who said they thought they saw him warming up...you obviously dont know your own players! he was certainly not warming up!

To the person who posted, you might be thinking about Andy Little cause i seem him warming up at the last game, NOT Ness

Ness may not play again the lad has chronic hip problems !

05 Feb 2012 00:21:55
McCoist to resign Monday morning, no matter todays result against Dundee united. Good source, never been wrong yet.

McCoist will not walk away. he has loyalty to the club, the fans, the players, and most of all. To himself. RTID
GMC

How about a name poster and we can judge for ourselves whether you've been wrong?

Duccablue

Away n sook a fart oot ma arse......that would be quicker than the time took you to make that sh1t up./biggles

..You should post yer moniker mate...just so we can congratulate you on monday...in the meantime i,ll assign you will the name pleb...is that okay?..

Your source is definately wrong this time. Ally has already said he would " absolutely never" walk away form Rangers

What part of 'absolutely never' don't you understand? ger1952

..Ha ha brilliant Biggles.....these timmys never learn..

Not my original post, but I back it.. its a disgrace what they are doing to a Rangers man, any manager for that matter. 2011 the year football died at ibrox. RIP.