Rangers Rumours Archive November 07 2012

 

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07 Nov 2012 10:35:27
Rangers are set to pay £800,000 to Rapid Vienna as part of the final instalment of the Nikica Jelavic transfer fee wouldnt mind the 800k to sign some young 17 year old for our first team instead

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I wonder why TRFC are paying off this "debt" when they are - according to Mr Green - a "debt-free" club? Surely not to avoid a UEFA/FIFA investigation?

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Would love that too but we are and should clear our football debts. Its the right thing to do.

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If Rangers spent 800k on a 17 year old he better be called Pelemessialdo. Give your head a shake ya banger!

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Must be a mistake. Charles Green has repeatedly stated we are debt free and have paid our football debts.

Maybe he would like to explain?

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07 Nov 2012 14:31:44
Maybe Mr Green is telling porkie pies?

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07 Nov 2012 14:37:59
it was originally stated that all domestic ie: UK footballing debts were paid in full or would be paid up to date and the jelavic payment would have been classed as a non domestic debt. i really wish people would just give it a rest and let us get on with the process of getting back to where we belong and on a good firm foundation!

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Maybe this is where share issue money is going!

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Hearts still not been paid, that's a domestic debt

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But where exactly do you belong? Do you have a divine right to belong in a particular league?

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"Where we belong"

You sound like an absolute fascist , what gives you the right to dictate where you belong.

Hubris killed your club, it's a pity it didn't eradicate your mindset.

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That's a whole lot of money but a lot less than the £1m plus fines plus legal fees if we went to FIFA court. Plus other penalties. This will hurt Green and his backers.

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regarding your stupid illinformed statement regarding He carts. The fact is that Hearts came to RFC and offerd Rangers a deal if our instalment payments were paid off in one go they would give us a discount. This cash money would have been used by Hearts to pay the tax man RFC refused. Footballing debts are being paid.

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What is it with you lot, this is not a debt, this is final instalment, due now, paid now. Incidentally the money from Everton for Jela
(paid in instalments), goes to creditors of oldco. So a bit of credit where credit due. No legal case for paying but we are.

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Who says hearts haven't been paid? good luck to them making it to xmas - john

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Hearts havent been paid because the money is not due but that dosent register in celtic heads even thought they are supposed to kno everything

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"07 Nov 2012 14:37:59
it was originally stated that all domestic ie: UK footballing debts were paid in full or would be paid up to date and the jelavic payment would have been classed as a non domestic debt. i really wish people would just give it a rest and let us get on with the process of getting back to where we belong and on a good firm foundation!"


They will NEVER give it a rest...never ever ever......its the hatred you see, poor sad people.

They see us livin'......they be hatin'.....they be hurtin' and hatin' because we survived :)

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Anybody know when Mr Green's share issue roadshow is coming to Glasgow?Would like to hear what the guy has to say for himself.

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To bw honest SPL and the Stupid Football Ass did want RFC to stay in the top tier of Scottish football. It was the other teams that voted us out. Now if there is now a vote of restructure it would stink of double standards of the teams in the SPL.
The hatred shown towards RFC was shown to be unanimoius. I wait to see what double standards of the voting directors from the SPL do now that another team is near liquidagion. I for one hope this rot in Scottish football stops.

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Rangers weren't voted out! They weren't voted in - it's not hard to understand.

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The SFL voted RFC in. Read the guys text.

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Before the celtic fan's come on here trying to gloat about their team tonight okay good result but it was a very poor barca perfomance tonight. first goal was scored because you have big players and exposed barca's weaknesses at the back and the second goal was a mistake by xavi heading into tony watt's path. other than those chances it was yet again another case of celtic parking the bus. anyway on rangers what is it with people coming on with negative comments all the time we need to get behind charles green and ally mccoist and the players as well and help them back to the top where we belong.

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Oh my goodness! Sour grapes or what!? What a pathetic joke of a person you are! I am definatly no Celtic supporter but that was a great result!
Funnily enough it must be all right for you to be crowing about beating teams that wouldn't even have a hundredth of the wage bill your rancid club have!
You are a very bitter little person and want to try growing the feck up!

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I agree the ceptic fans will come on here let them barca must be the most fustrating team on the planet never mind best

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To the poster about the Celtic match. I'm no Celtic fan but clearly you're no football fan. Celtic only scored the first goal because they exposed barcelona's weaknesses? Surely that's the objective. Identifying any weaknesses and exposing them. Clearly you are a genius.

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Now Green has held amicable talks and agreed to honour this inherited football debt.

Edlinger would not be drawn on the exact details but said: A large chunk of the missing monies should be paid to Rapid.

Rapid will pocket around £600,000 of the money with Belgian side Zulte Waregem receiving £200,000.

Zulte Waregem sold Jelavic to Rapid in 2008 and inserted a clause which guaranteed them a slice of the pie from any future deals.

There has been a debate around Ibrox about which inherited football debt the new company should repay, with Hearts also due money from the sale of defender Lee Wallace to the ˜oldco' in January.

Daily Express

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Oh, now the BEST CLUB TEAM IN THE WORLD, are now the most frustrating team in the world because we beat them. You just can't bring yourselves to congratulate Celtic on a massive & historic result. So sad, but then, i can't say i expected anything less.

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Celtic beat Barca 2--1 ,great result ,.also Wanyama ,Forster ,Watt etc value in the transfer market will have soared ,so don't be bitter ,just concentrate on your own team and get them back to former glories and you will be able to enjoy nights like we have tonight,..

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To the person above i said it was a great result but not the best of barca perfomances they wouldnt have been that bad under guardiola. so if anyone needs to grow up it is you. good result for celtic but lets not get to carried away it was a mediocre barca perfomance.

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Ok barca are more skillfull in passing the ball etc but hats of to celtic its goals that count at the end of the day enjoy your night hoops fans hopefully we can get back to that level again

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Maybe this story is just a rumour - i cant see why Green would need to pay the old co's debts - if they still exist then we should never have been relegated to Div3

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The guy arguing how its not a good victory for Celtic and the saying it was a very mediocre barca side, are you wise? I guess it pails into a pretty poor second place behind alloa?! Lol
Grow up ya fanny!!

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In reply to the original post that you would rather see the money spent on a new 17yr old INSTEAD. That is the reason people dislike you, there is no humility, you all think this is someone else's fault that you are where you are. Paying off your debt is the decent thing to do but you would rather not pay them and spend the money on something else. Maybe if thre had been a bit of regret about the situation you left a lot of businessespeople in when you went bust then people would have been more willing to get behind you and help but instead all we got was the usual rants about boycotts and we will be back and you will all go to the wall without us...strange none of the bapove have happened. Before you point to Hearts as a team going bust, they were in this situation 2 years ago and again last year as the owners withheld funds time and time again, maybe if your owner had done the same then you would be in a better state than you are today. In terms of being bitter about you surviving, to be perfectly honest it's immaterial to anyone outside of Ibrox whether you survive or not. If you think that in 3 years you will be back winning the league and going into Europe then you are more diluded than I thought. People outside are enjoy looking in to see what the next upturned stone reveals and revel in the fact that even after all the thnigs that have gone on you still cannot see the wood for the trees. CG....be very very cautious, he is in it for money...nothing else...and its YOUR money...

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It's a game of defense and attack and Celtic evidently did both better than Barcelona.
What a magnificent intro to the game best I've seen in Europe as long as I can remember.
£800k will hurt Green.
60,000 @ £30 = £1.8m plus TV plus advertising plus hospitality plus merchandise probably makes last night £3m.

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What is it with you lot, this is not a debt, this is final instalment, due now, paid now. Incidentally the money from Everton for Jela
(paid in instalments), goes to creditors of oldco. So a bit of credit where credit due. No legal case for paying but we are.
If our clubs dead and the Everton money for Jela goes to the oldco why are we paying anything this is what I mean when its pay out we are the rangers when its pay in we are the new co Bulls@~t.

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"What is it with you lot, this is not a debt, this is final instalment, due now, paid now. Incidentally the money from Everton for Jela (paid in instalments), goes to creditors of oldco. So a bit of credit where credit due. No legal case for paying but we are."

Do you people not wonder about this?

Does Mr Charles really have so much money floating around Ibrox that he can afford to dish out £800K simply as a goodwill gesture?

If he does, why the much-touted (and gone very quiet) share issue?

Wake up and smell the coffee, bears. You are being had again - this time by possibly the biggest liar to have ever graced Scottish fitba. His porkies are enormous, and you seem to be lapping them up because he says what you want him to. He took a while to figure it out, but he cracked it, and is now a messiah figure (... remember Mr Whyte?).

You that bought season tickets - how's the voting going for the name change at Murray Park? One of the first lies, that one.

Crossbar Challenge? How's that one going? Players from the Euro 2012? Adidas kit? Stadium sponsor? Naming the investors after the CVA vote? Orange kit?

Mr Charles has tuned you up, and now he's playing you like a fiddle.

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"you all think this is someone else's fault that you are where you are"

It is! What Rangers supporter are you blaming for this?

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If you take the financial prospects of Celtic and Rangers, by the time Rangers get back to the top tier Celtic will be out of sight. Between European money and transfer fees over the next 3 years, Celtic could amass 30 million on top of their current advantage.

It could take a decade for Rangers to catch up.

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This is why rangers need to get back to the top soon cl is where the money is great result for celtic no sour grapes from me

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This is why rangers need to get back to the top soon cl is where the money is great result for celtic no sour grapes from me¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦the money is better not great look at Harts, Dundee U and the others, yep celtic could have a few bob and no teams to play. Also it was a good result but this is not a CELTIC forum and its about time ed realised this look at the amount of celtic fans post to Rangers fans a embarrassment ¦¦ we will see if this gets posted or edited by ed from park head. {The Ed039's Note - The Ed is actually from Shettleston, but dont worry its an easy mistake. Now I get to correct you. This is a forum for rumours and banter ABOUT Rangers not FOR Rangers. Maybe its about time that alot of posters realised this and stopped moaning about it)

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I like the fact that Celtic fans post here. I accept that many of the comments are intended as wind-up's but come on - better that than the sectarian nonsense that's been dominating the old firm for way too long.

So I say bring it on - makes the forum a lot more interesting! {The Ed039's Note - Absoloutley)

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I agree with ED pure banter nothing more lol.tell the above poster to check out all the rangers fans posting on celtic rumours lol

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Im thinking Sandy Jardine has been taking too many paracetemol with his horlicks at bed time!!!!!!!!!

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The poster moaning about Celtic posts doesn't realise, he is the exact type of Rangers fan they are trying to wind up.

The type who don't go out when their team gets beat for fear of taking a pounding. lol

Grow up, and take it on the chin like a man.

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Sorry but the majority of it is not banter but hatered. As for Sandy Jardine . He made what he believes is reasonable statement as a former player. Billy McNeil will argue his side of it.

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"Sorry but the majority of it is not banter but hatered."

You must be seeing hatred in banter, criticism, anything you disagree with and attempts to wind-up Rangers fans who think it's all hatred. Get a grip and calm down a bit.The eds wouldn't post it if it was hatred.

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Aye " Shut the tax dodgers down " . Pure banter man. Its that funny I nearly paid my TV licence. Sorry eds that is not banter , its out and out hatred. I deal with face to face banter not internet Rambos.

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If there was no banter or wind up the site would close, reading endless posts of WATPTTDID loses its entertainment value fairly quickly.

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Good to hear that sporting integrity is still spewing from the lips of the great unwashed. They now want to leave Scottish football as they have grown to big for it.

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"Aye " Shut the tax dodgers down " . Pure banter man. Its that funny I nearly paid my TV licence. Sorry eds that is not banter , its out and out hatred. I deal with face to face banter not internet Rambos."

Where's the hatred? Go on, tell us all please. And what should be done to those who dodge tax, pray tell...

Finally, you're on here making spurious comments so does that not make you an 'internet Rambo'?

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"Good to hear that sporting integrity is still spewing from the lips of the great unwashed. They now want to leave Scottish football as they have grown to big for it."

Where did you hear this? And did Rangers not once want to leave for the same (arrogant) reason?

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The comment about Selic leaving the SPL was widespread on Radio Snyde tonight. Callers and Mr McNee bkurting away about it. {The Ed039's Note - Must be true then)

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" I deal with face to face banter not internet Rambos. "
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Pot, kettle.....black.

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Still laughing at the banter . Shut them down . Be honest mate you are sick we are still operating.

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RFC to be honest did make noises about leaving Scotland. I think the point the guy is making is that you lot act out this Sporting integrity card. Just shows that was utter rubbish and it was done out of total hatred. Oh and I had nothing to do with a certain car crash. L have an alidi.

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Neither Celtic nor Rangers can leave Scotland, why do people keep digging up this corpse ?

The SPL did not vote Rangers into their league because to do so would have meant there was no penalty for liquidating a club, removing any commercial disincentive for doing so and effectively destroying its tradeworthiness.
Any club could simply liquidate and insist on being invited back into the SPL on the Rangers precedent.

Football is a commercial trading association that depends on creditworthiness, you cannot have clubs liquidating with impunity.

...and the fans threatened boycott of their clubs didn't help.

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The comment about Selic leaving the SPL was widespread on Radio Snyde tonight. Callers and Mr McNee bkurting away about it. {The Ed039's Note - Must be true then)
Heard it too Ed . Well done to them for winning but there supporters are going a bit over the the top. Trying to make it sound as if EFA will beg them down.

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10 Nov 2012 10:42:56
Listen i congratulate celtic on their win the other night a gutsy defensive display and grabbing a goal from a set piece and taking advantage of barcelona's weaknesses at the back and the second goal came from a mistake. but you should not get carried away with the result it was a very poor perfomance by barcelona not the perfomance we expect from them messi looked tired and sluggish and the rest were no better. the thing that bugs me is rangers played anti football and we were slaughtered for it yet celtic play it in back to back games and get praised for it. i know it is barcelona and you have to stop them playing but barcelona were there for the taking they were weak at the back and with a bit more confidence then celtic could have created more chances. they just looked like they were relying on getting set pieces.


once again not sour grapes i congratulate them but just need to look at all the circumstances surrounding the game and the fact celtic won a champions league game with a record low of possesion of the ball says it all.

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Man Utd tried to play Barcelona (with their weak defence) at their own game and got humilated TWICE. Celtic are not in the same league as Man Utd but some are suggesting they should have tried the same tactic.

Celtic's performance was outstanding, ask any Chelsea fan what is more important, possession or goals.

I support both OF teams in Europe and it was box office stuff.

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Like the poster saying "concentrating on your own team" while he's posting on a Rangers forum lol

I have never been on a Celtic forum simply because i don't care...

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Like the poster saying "concentrating on your own team" while he's posting on a Rangers forum lol

How many times do you need to be told? It's not a forum FOR Rangers fans but one for fans to have banter ABOUT Rangers. Do you understand?

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Can't believe Charles green wee will be more financialy stable than Celtic hats of too them there scouting system has really made them a lot of money and the way there club is ran wee should take a leaf out of there books

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To say there is more money in the champions league does not make you a celtic fan the poster was stating the facts

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You can say "not sour grapes or anything" as many times as you like! But the restof your message still has the taste of sour grapes all over it!! So what if they hee haw possession! The fact is that they got the 3 points! I am very sure you wouldn't be questioning Chelsea's tactics if it was them getting the result now would?
Weneed to put your posts in to perspective and the fact that you are obviously quite bitter and cheesed off that they got the result! Grow up ya fud!

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A poor barcelona side? They have made their best EVER start to the Spanish season and had only lost 1 game all season in the Spanish super cup at the bernabeu. But no sour grapes haha

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My turn now. I AM a Celtic fan and want to say, I stand by what happened on Wednesday Night. NL got it right and he doesnt always. who gives a toss if it was the worst Barca team in history. We played, we got 3 points. This is a Barca team that a pretty much unstoppable just now and have been for say 4 years. Reverse the roles lads and lassies. If this was the same story but reversed, Gers fans would be gloating and Celtic fans winding you up but in all honesty jealous. There is no shame in being truthful. Celtic fans woudl have been jealous when RFC reached Manchester in UEFA cup as much as when we reached Seville and if you (from either side) say you werent then god bless you cos you are a lying b*stard. I was, didnt mean i wanted them to win but hey ho. Thats me. With Regards to RFG, i am confused with the "Domestic Debts" thing. I am not saying its not correct, far from it but as a businessman, could you really fool a board by saying all domestic debts are paid? If say Real Madrid were struggling to pay Man Utd 80m for Ronaldo and only coughed up 30m, the balance sheet would still show a 50m debt. Who to is irrelevant, they would be due 50m out and that would remain on the books. anyway, just my thoughts and sure someone, someone more intelligent and with more business savy than me will settle the score. Rangers will succeed under Green but by what methods. Green is Fergus McCann in disguise. He only wants to make money then sell the club to the highest bidder. Who cares, thats how people make money then move onto the next project. there is no room for sentiment in business and ask Murray if he would do it again, he woudlnt. he pumped millions into the club and no reward, then had no choice but to sell even though he was pot-committed. You guys will be back to where you were (and i mean were, not entitled to be. Celtic and Rangers have no devine right to be anywhere). When your in the top division next, i thoroughy cannot wait and welcome you. The Devil cant exist without God? maybe, the rivalry is world-wide and is missed but it will return. There just needs to be a bit of reality on both teams here. SPL is most likely worse without RFC. Ok, BUT, HIBS, St.J, they are challenging for top 2/3 just now, they were clear relegation candidated pre-season. They can get European experience and maybe gain some respect and help the national co-efficient. Its only good for the game and there should be NO sour grapes about it anyway as with RFC being a newco, UEFA rules mean even if they were in SPL, they dont have 3 years worth of audited accounts so they cant qualify so lets just let everyone take their chances, get on about their business and see what unfolds. To those that disagree with anything i have said, you are foolish and a liar. Look inwards and say I am wrong. This is aimed at bothCFC and RFC fans. I am a realist. STAN

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07 Nov 2012 00:14:30
big eck rules himself out as new scotland manager in the scottish press

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Looks like it will be stark or strachan big billy is doing a great job u21s so he is worth a shout wgs looks the like the candidate for the job the wee man will take no nonsence players have to look at themselves too its been a poor show so far a bit of pride needs to be installed and attacking football even if we lose at least we are trying best wishes to who gets the post

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Joe jordans the man he wouldnt tolerate slackers and has pride in scotland, hes a good and well respected coach

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Just like to say good luck to the manky mob tonight a win can only be good for the Scottish game. a know some of our supporters will shoot me down in flames but can we not leave bitterness with the old regime :-)
..... larkhall William.......

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Who wants the poison chalice w.a.t.p

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If big billy takes charge we can forget Euro 2016, he's no chance of getting the job full time.

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Good luck to the manky mob , leave all this bitterness behind . What a tit.......DH

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To larkhall William, looks like that will be a no by judging the previous message!
And to the previous message, you are a tool mate!

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Thanks god for that, man is aone of the worst managers I have ever seen...time for change.

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Great post larkhall William but am afraid it a long time before all the bitterness will b left. so wots the nxt big game is it benfica or elgin.

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Well done Larkhall William. I would like to say well done Celtic for an amazing result last night, wish it was us.

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Well said william great result for celtic hopefully we will be back in a few years

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Big Eck as you call him had his chance and walked away. Time for new blood.

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Lets get the right appointment this time good luck to who gets the job

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Hope it's Joe Jordan, Billy Stark's injury replacements are awful i.e Darren Barr, Liam Kelly, Craig Samson etc.

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