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20 Jan 2017 08:53:07
Listening to warbs press conference it sounds like we are going back to the 433 when wallace returns. He talked about toral and hayman being confortable playing in that system. I think halliday is filling in for rossiter and will become more of a squad player in future.
20 Jan 2017 09:38:45
I hope so, because Halliday has been absolute dung so far this season
20 Jan 2017 09:56:46
I agree although I see no point in having Toral and Hyndman in the team if we are going to lose them in the summer unless we have an agreement in place to extend their loan into next season based on performance. The sooner Rossiter is back and up to speed he better all I have heard for the last couple of month is "7-10 days".
20 Jan 2017 13:20:29
Sorry Hanni I disagreed with you on holiday Dung has it uses as for Mr halliday !
20 Jan 2017 14:24:50
Why is there no point in playing them just because we might not keep them?
Us finishing 2nd in this league is not a formality we still need to achieve it and if Toral and Hyndman are better than what we currently have (which wouldn't take much) then of course they should play.
When they return in the summer having hopefully secured 2nd and Europa entry we then attempt to make a move for permanent players of an improved standard again.
We are shopping in the Bosman market and there are very little of these players available in this window, hence using loans, which if successful also improves our relationship with their parent clubs.
21 Jan 2017 17:06:57
Today proved that we need to use our loanees because Holt just is not good enough.
20 Jan 2017 07:11:44
DR reports today McKay wanted by Leipzig for £6mill. This will test the board to see if keeping our youth to build on is more important than Balancing the books. Personally I would push for 8mill and use that to buy 3 players. CB, DM and striker
20 Jan 2017 09:02:31
£8m would test the board's resolve Blue nose, but we need to think about the push for 2nd and the prospect of European football. What will Barrie McKay's stock be at after a couple of euro games? This is only the first bid from one team which will trigger a mad dash of scouts etc from everywhere! . The board will have to run the risk of him getting injured if they keep him. Difficult one for DK and Warbs. I think Warbs will push to keep him tho because he knows a potential EPL move looms over the horizon.
20 Jan 2017 10:12:10
Anything over £5 million I think the board would bite their hand off. Disappointing as I do think he is both our best and most promising player at the moment.
20 Jan 2017 10:31:12
The delusion here is outstanding? Explain the £6m valuation other than the daily record saying so. Decent player, played well in the Hogmany game, nothing more. £1.5-2m at most I'd say
20 Jan 2017 09:21:21
I'd say sell him. Take the £6mil and buy Hayes and Nicholson. Hayes is probably on par with Mckay and older so we could use him for a few seasons. Nicholson is a good player on his day, one I'd love to see in a Rangers shirt, he will only improve with time too.
20 Jan 2017 09:31:27
Also Bluenose I see your point about getting a CB, DM, ST. however, without Mckay we'd have no cover incase Wallace ever gets injured again. If we are going forward with the 3-5-2 then we need to replace Mckay or need a backup LB. Aidan White from Barnsley could do the trick, he's fast and a decent defender who can play as a left mid.
20 Jan 2017 09:44:51
6M for a boy who hasn't played in europe and isn't an international regular who has 18mths on his contract is a great offer if true i'd like to tie him doen on a new deal hopefully get a crack at europe nxt season then we can start the bidding at 10m
20 Jan 2017 09:47:26
Dont want to sound negative bluenose but i hate the thought of warbs potentially having 8 mil to spend on players if we sold mckay for that. wouldn't go on players anyway, it would be used to pay for running costs i expect. Bad times
20 Jan 2017 09:59:16
I don't think we are in a position to knock that sort of money back I think there will be a lot of pressure from all side to sell if that sort of bid came in. Totally agree that we should hold onto him as a bid from the EPL could easily double knowing the ridiculous nature from there.
20 Jan 2017 12:43:37
£6million? I would bite their hand off.
20 Jan 2017 14:07:12
91bhoy it's simple. A player is worth what a club is willing to pay. If Leipzig want to pay £6m he's worth that. Still to see any £30m plus offers for Dembele that you lot seem to value him at 😂
20 Jan 2017 16:31:56
Jmaster. I'm not being disrespectful, just wondering were that valuation came from, as Leipzig, as far as I can see have not made any bid. I also see that Hull and Swansea are Supposedly interested but with a valuation of 1.5m, so i wasn't too far away.
Dembele has performed very well in league, cup, Europe and France u21 all season. If he continues that 20-30m is very achivable.
And for the record, we all know McKay is not worth 6mil 😂 But if a teams willing to pay that then fair play. Rangers certainly aren't in a position to knock back offers of a significant amount
20 Jan 2017 20:04:11
McKay is a full international. I've watched him the last two seasons and on his game he can be unplayable at times. I actually wouldn't accept £6m. Where does your valuation for dembele come from? Just because Brenda said it in an interview? I'd have McKay over Forrest or Roberts I'm sure you value them at more than £2m?
20 Jan 2017 22:12:59
Wow! I have no words for that! I can't really comment on McKay too much tbh, outwith games against Celtic I have only seen him a handful of times. The best he's played was in his last game against us, and he was your best player, but nothing special, just had a good game. A lot of my pals who see him every week even comment how erratic his form can be. So for these reasons alone, added with the fact he has no real experiance playing in a top league out with the last 5 months says to me he's not a 6mil player.
I've explained my reasons for Dembele, and that will be further proved when he will undoubtly get a France call up this year.
And for BM being better than Forrest and Roberts 😂😂😂 McKay would be lucky to make a Celtic bench. The gap - don't forget!
21 Jan 2017 05:40:20
If Dembele is called up for the full France squad and displaces the £60m rated Griezmann then I will happily accept his valuation at that point. He hasn't so far. The last game against your mob wasn't McKay's best performance. His performance in the semi last year wasn't bad either when he scored a bullet.
21 Jan 2017 11:22:16
if we sell mackay I really hope David king keeps this money locked away till the summer we have enough in the squad 2 get second and Warburton record in the transfer market is not great
19 Jan 2017 22:26:33
Hearing from a reliable source that Motherwell's Chris Cadden will be joining Rangers, probably not in this window but more likely at the end of the season.
19 Jan 2017 23:29:21
Think he just signed for a team down south
20 Jan 2017 08:32:41
Just signed a contract extension at for park but rangers are interested in him. Can't find any vids on YouTube though.
20 Jan 2017 16:28:24
Worth about 3 tops at the moment so if leipzig want to pay that it has to be accepted, especially if it helps balance the books a bit
19 Jan 2017 17:38:43
Apparently Kilmarnock want £750k for Couibaly. That's an absolute bargain IMO. The wee guy has everything to improve our first team, he's quick, direct and capable of producing pieces of magic. He's had half a season in the league and scored a decent amount for a pretty poor Kilmarnock side. If I was Warburton I'd be pursuing this boy especially at that valuation.
19 Jan 2017 17:48:00
Completely agree. Spurs paid 1.2 million for him when he was 17 and he's had Real Madrid, Juventus etc tracking him before. He scored something ridiculous like 14 goals in 9 matches for the ivory coasg under 20s. There's denfinity potential and 20 goals in a season for us would have his value at 5-10 mill at least.
19 Jan 2017 17:57:50
Considering what we paid for Garner and Killie are asking 750k.
Couibaly has scored 11 for Killie.
Can't see us signing him but you never know
19 Jan 2017 19:38:14
We won't be spending anything this window unfortunately.
19 Jan 2017 22:38:42
Can't see any transfer fees being paid we run at a loss so the board are keeping us going UEFA fair play rules will kick in if we run up high loses you can only spend what you earn all this talk of King should through in £30 mill can't happen
20 Jan 2017 04:15:34
Good point think about it. Until we can sell shares or increase currently holdings then any investment in will be a debt. They are probably scared Ashley will take up his option as they could not get the article passed at the agm.
20 Jan 2017 08:34:38
Correct, our board are dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't,
The negative stuff on here so unreal, I can't believe that I'm chatting to fellow rangers fans at times
19 Jan 2017 17:29:00
Hearing from a good source that a major investor is coming into rangers in march! Only sharing what i've been told guys!
19 Jan 2017 17:38:52
supercooper your rumours are not worth caring about because none of them are ever true one of these days you will get one right and you will come on and look for credit well not from me you won't.
19 Jan 2017 17:41:51
Abit harsh James but i hope its this 1 he gets right
19 Jan 2017 17:54:38
Hope your good source is correct and reliable.
19 Jan 2017 17:56:19
Who jizzed in your ovaltine? Lol
19 Jan 2017 18:45:30
Don't they call this the 'cry wolf' syndrome lol
19 Jan 2017 19:31:06
Is that the same "good source" that phoned superscoreboard on Monday with the same vague story on Monday.
19 Jan 2017 22:44:48
@JR09 - I suggest you look up the definition of rumour in the dictionary!
19 Jan 2017 23:17:17
It wouldn't surprise me, we need money so it makes sense to have someone investing money in the club.
19 Jan 2017 23:52:01
Thats why its a rumours page jamesreilly09. How many rumours on here actually are true? Not very much! We all put on here stories we've been told or heard. This is what this facility is for! Fellow bears sharing stories rumours and banter! At least i've had some right, how many have you had correct? I can't recall any!
20 Jan 2017 12:39:31
Cheers supercooper, keep the whoppers coming.
19 Jan 2017 12:58:04
How true is the reports about getting the guy from westbrom? Berihino? sorry for the spelling if its wrong
19 Jan 2017 13:53:28
Not a chance
19 Jan 2017 14:10:19
Manufactured rumour that's grew legs and ran off the distance!
19 Jan 2017 16:56:16
In a couple of words No Chance Whatsoever. i can see barry mckay being sold this window just to balance the books as he is right now our most valuable player. i just wish king would come out and be honest about everything instead of hiding he promised transparency and i simply do not see any of that.
20 Jan 2017 13:31:34
Let me say what DK can't. DK tried to put through a motion so he could sell shares to limited people so 1. They could drown out the fat man giving him less power at Ibrox. 2. Raise money for the manager to spend. It didn't happen as it didn't meet the required amount of votes. DK has to watch everything he says as some fat bar steward will have him in court before he's said it as he has in the past. So those looking for transparency have to take this into account, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Until we get rid of the Fat Controller we have very little income to be able to spend and under UEFA rules you can only spend what you bring in or face sanctions hence Man City having to cut back on their lavish spending. Honestly my fellow Bears some of you need to get real.
19 Jan 2017 04:12:01
Seen a few posts on twitter about major investment in Rangers, most likely crap and i'm not holding my breath but i think the Leipzig game the other day was a possible means of scouting Barrie Mckay as Leipzig seem to have gotten a little success from Burke they could be more interested in the Scottish market.
i know he never came from Scotland but he's Scottish therefore using us as a sort of feeder club as they do want to continue expanding and hope to be a major european force in the next few years. this however could mean investment for us through transfers? thoughts?
19 Jan 2017 07:14:15
Theyre not going to be a major force in europe buying your players.
19 Jan 2017 07:23:43
Does anyone else think that Mckay will be off before January is out?
19 Jan 2017 08:10:13
Only if big money comes in. Possibly summer though, with time to hopefully spend most of the money.
19 Jan 2017 08:57:13
No why would we think that?
19 Jan 2017 10:15:31
I hope i'm wrong but he's the only Rangers player worth his salt just now and with only 18mnths to run on his contract and us being desperate for cash it puts us in a pretty vulnerable situation
19 Jan 2017 10:35:58
What have we got to offer Leipzig? One decent winger who isn't anywhere near Fosberg and is quite a distance off of Burke? Why on earth would they want us as a feeder team when our youngsters can't even get into our first team.
19 Jan 2017 14:48:50
Spoc - Do you think any of the Thanda Royal Zulu squad are good enough to play for Man City's first team? Well they are one of many of their feeder teams!
19 Jan 2017 19:07:05
You're missing the lads point Spoc
19 Jan 2017 19:06:15
Bhampot. They wouldn't be a major force buying yours either! Ahem 7 nil!
20 Jan 2017 14:04:14
id like to add that apparently Leipzig have came in with a valuation of 5-7m, after he impressed in Germany, i feel we should string it out to 10 if true
18 Jan 2017 22:07:19
It's on ssn that several English premiership teams and a couple of European teams showing a keen interest in barrie mckay
18 Jan 2017 23:24:38
HITC also stating this but I Figured out ages ago they're always making shite up so doubt it but he is a talented lad with lots of potential so u never know who's sniffing about. It's more believable than if it stated no one was interest ha
19 Jan 2017 07:24:22
I fear we'll lose Mckay before the window shuts
19 Jan 2017 14:08:45
Been a supporter for well over 50yrs and a season ticket holder for the last 20. I gave nearly 6000 shares over to RST when DK was taking over. Seen good times and bad and i have absolutely no faith in this management team whatsoever but if we sell young McKay for anything less than £10 mill then i will seriously consider giving up the ticket and just being a fan as opposed to a supporter.
Do i think he is worth that? no but we are needing to strengthen not weaken our team and selling our best on the cheap is wrong.
19 Jan 2017 10:07:10
Hes potentially a top class player. best Scottish player in League. by a mile. if he buckles down. the Skies the limit
19 Jan 2017 17:45:42
Sorry to burst your bubble gosman but there's no chance anyone would pay £10m for a player from us as we're in a dyer situation were we would need to accept anything
19 Jan 2017 20:10:19
No way should we let McKay go. If we do it pretty much sums up the ampition and commitment that King has to the Club!
19 Jan 2017 20:32:37
Any offer of above £5m for McKay will be snapped up just to keep the club afloat during the summer. It really is that bad, folks.
19 Jan 2017 19:30:07
I don't think as much as every body else I'd sell him for less than ten million if it's the right amount of money the boys good and has touches of brilliance at times but he's not consistent enough Gos missing in games so if he's our
Best young player and the best player at ibrox we r up shjt creak
19 Jan 2017 22:39:04
Gosman my friend, i'm also a massive fan of young barrie mckay and always have been, from the first time i seen him at peterhead playing for us in the old division 3,as a 17 year old boy! What being truthful mate, do you think barrie mckay is worth in the current transfer market (taking into account what teams will pay for a talent like his)? Especially if we can tie him down to a longterm contract!
18 Jan 2017 18:24:37
Falkirk sign Fraser Aird, anyone know of a fee involved?
18 Jan 2017 18:39:24
Apparently had his contract ripped up
18 Jan 2017 18:44:45
Mutually agreed termination of contract so another young talent who has left for nothing.
18 Jan 2017 19:18:24
I think 'young talent' is a bit strong. 'player' would have sufficed. Wages saved that can go towards someone who might actually play!
18 Jan 2017 20:58:07
Aird is 21 if Warburton does not think he is good enough for the first team then he is right to let him go. This is best for the player and the club. Who knows he could either become like Shinnie or he could just flop.
18 Jan 2017 21:08:31
Just not quite good enough at the moment. Its the fairest thing to do as he was out of contract at end of season so releasing him made it easier to get a club. Really nice statment he gave on leaving, a true Ger
18 Jan 2017 21:26:08
Good luck to the lad.
18 Jan 2017 21:55:43
Warburton doesn't seem to think that any of our young talent is good enough! This from the guy that plays Halliday every week!
I wish Aird all the best. I dare say we could have got a fee for him but it doesn't appear to be the way we do things these days.
19 Jan 2017 08:14:22
Do you think we had anyone in Canada or the states to watch him play? No chance! We have no network to speak of, still 2 years on and our infrastructure is a joke!
Aird wasn't a brilliant player the last time I saw him, he was fast, but I bet he has improved and I bet we have no real first hand experience of his time away.
19 Jan 2017 08:41:55
He is away to Falkirk, would they have given us any sort of fee? These players we are letting go aren't worth anything, so we may as well get rid of them while we can.
19 Jan 2017 08:58:23
Would rather see young players aloud to go to other clubs for free if it means they might have a chance of making a better career for themselves than sitting on the bench.
19 Jan 2017 10:31:54
Warburton is yer typical Englishman, under estimating Scottish players whilst thinking English players are the be all and end all hence him going to English lower divisions to sign players because he thinks they're better, must realise by now that's not the case
19 Jan 2017 11:27:18
To be fair, Scottish football is amateur compared with English football these days. Bigger crowds in English 4th Division than some of our "top clubs" and better wages too. Our supposed 3rd best team Aberdeen don't even have a proper training facility . Players like Aird were never good enough, so we rightly let them go. Just because a player is young, does not mean he will turn out good.
19 Jan 2017 13:58:00
Tom Walsh away too. The website says Aird help rangers win league 1 and 2. It was actually the 3rd and 2nd division.
19 Jan 2017 19:10:23
English players seem to have a far superior fitness and physique. Scottish lads are small in build ( not height ) . The have very little strength compared to English lads.
19 Jan 2017 20:49:48
3Rd and 2nd div is league 1 and 2 Albertz then it's the championship
17 Jan 2017 23:51:16
Daily Record sayn we could let O'halloran go to hearts on loan. This just wouldn't make any sense if we give them to hearts on loan.
18 Jan 2017 00:02:04
Give him to hearts a meant lol
18 Jan 2017 00:59:13
Would be ridiculous if true. Why would we loan a player to one of our main rivals for 2nd place? If he goes out on loan it needs to be to a bottom half team. Caley, partick or the like
18 Jan 2017 00:59:13
Would be ridiculous if true. Why would we loan a player to one of our main rivals for 2nd place? If he goes out on loan it needs to be to a bottom half team. Caley, partick or the like
18 Jan 2017 08:39:50
Nothing surprises me anymore at Rangers! I guess the theory is that he couldn't play against us but could help Hearts defeat Aberdeen etc. Unfortunately that only works if we can be confident that we are going to win all our games and I don't see that happening with our current team!
18 Jan 2017 08:51:25
we are supposed to be after Sam Nicholson from hearts so could this be away of getting the young lad Nicholson to come to rangers we are sweating the deal buy offering them ohallaran if this is not the case then ohallaran should go no where near hearts with the amount of intrest in ohallaran other team must see something in him our club must be in desire straights and king wants wage budget cut if we need to save 2 k on wages
18 Jan 2017 09:19:59
Depends how you look at it. It might be a perfect opportunity for him to show MW what he can do. Playing at Hearts might be the making of him. MW doesn't fancy him, but it might just work to our favour.
18 Jan 2017 09:45:26
Will be exchanged for the boy Nicholson.
18 Jan 2017 10:52:23
Cuillin, if MW doesn't fancy MOH. then why the donald duck did he spend £500k on him?
18 Jan 2017 10:56:43
You better ask him that. He isn't playing him, is he?
18 Jan 2017 12:41:37
He's not playing him because he just hasn't been good enough. 2 and a half good games at Ibrox isn't good enough and he is technically very limited.
18 Jan 2017 12:50:50
Can see the reasons for it and also the reasons against it, however i think we should use MOH as a way of bargaining a good price for Patterson.
18 Jan 2017 16:29:21
I thought Paterson was out for 10 months? I think he is also out of contract in the summer as well. There was talk of Hearts offering him a new deal otherwise he would be without a club when is back from injury and not sure if any club would want to sign him without him proving his fitness, although that hasn't stopped us in the past lol.
18 Jan 2017 17:27:35
We don't need to use MOH as a bargaining tool for Nicholson. He will be at end of contract so we just sign him on a pre contract agreement.
Why would we want Patterson, he is out for 10 months, unless it is to keep Rossiter company!
Warburton is doing his best to follow Weir in losing credibility after the latter concluded that £100m wouldn't buy a team to beat Celtic. He has more attacking midfield players at Rangers these days than any other team in the league yet he is struggling for a goalscorer, he doesn't have a holding / defensive midfield player and he is struggling for two centre backs.
Perhaps our Chairman should spend more time in the UK or is the team that bad that he can't watch them for 90 minutes. Are we really that bad!
18 Jan 2017 22:25:08
this is crazy we should say if u want out on loan then fine but not to a rival give him to motherwell or something.
if he can play against us i'd be scared as our defence is slower than a week in the jail
19 Jan 2017 08:59:32
Tomusa you didn't even watch weirs interview or you would know that he said 100 million does not guarantee success and it doesn't.
19 Jan 2017 11:33:19
Sounds a good plan - the lad never plays because he hasn't cut the mustard. Ship him to Hearts, get him fit and let him play against the other SPFL teams and maybe help take points of them, but he can't play against us - ideal. If he does well, get him back - if not, we have a fit player ready to sell.
19 Jan 2017 15:13:52
I agree MOH isn't really that great technically I would use him as a trade incentive for Patterson if Patterson was on a big deal I'm sure his contract goes out in the summer and he just got a serious injury, may be able to pick him up for free this summer
19 Jan 2017 19:12:28
@ Cee I'm sorry but 100million in Scotland most certainly does guarantee success. Not England but definitely here! Weir is talking out his a*se.
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