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08 Oct 2017 10:40:43
Is there a report on yesterdays bounce match anywhere online? Only thing I can find is a Kenny miller tribute by the Daily R? One of the pathetic mention jack being sent off? Can't find anything anywhere?

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08 Oct 2017 10:53:51
I would like to know if it was a full strength team.

08 Oct 2017 10:59:28
It doesn't matter if it was a full team. bcos the players mentality would b totally dif from a real game. sometimes i think people take pleasure when we have a bad game and can't wait to stick the boot in!

08 Oct 2017 11:13:17
I would be shocked if it was anything but a strong team. Pedro likes to play his strongest team available regardless of the opposition. It gives them the ability to improve on all aspects of play during these games. Defense i think was the topic of choice during yesterdays game. 3-3 not good.

08 Oct 2017 11:22:57
Well delboy it doesn't paint a good picture if it was a full strength team, I can't believe you just said it doesn't matter if it was a full team because the players would be mentally different from a real game. that's another pathetic excuse to add to the growing list of pathetic excuses. What a load of single fish.

08 Oct 2017 12:05:23
OK going back to the question? Anywhere?

08 Oct 2017 12:06:57
Well said coldo. These games are an opportunity to get clean sheets and big scorelines. Improving your confidence as a side and as individual players. To say that the mentality differs maybe true, an if it is evident in some of our players then get rid of them. We need to be blasting teams such as Morton regardless of it being a bounce game. To concede 3 is shameful.

08 Oct 2017 12:27:48
Can't find anything brian. Big cliff It beggars belief that some people go out their way to make pathetic excuses to excuse the poor standards that are being served up to us. I might moan but at least my judgement is not tainted by the blue specs. I expect much better that what we have seen already and you better believe that I will let all know when the standards are below par. The club and team can't move forward if we keep putting an arm around them and saying there there, tough love never did anyone any harm infact tough love wil make a man out of a boy. The pathetic excuses are embarressing to the traditions of our club.

08 Oct 2017 13:04:43
I agree with what you are saying Colin but I wear blue tinted specs and won't take them off look we are all singing from the same hmyn book we all want an improvement we all want success we may just have to wait unfortunately. One things for sure the press are far more critical than any of us on here but had nothing to say about the game yesterday if they could get the grubby hands on anything they would have that is for sure so I am not to concerned but all I want to know is how our youngsters faired?

08 Oct 2017 13:13:35
Brian mate if there was anything positive about yesterday there would be plenty of broadcasting about it. The only thing that i have read about yesterday states that Pedro had been working all week on defensive tactics for this glamour friendly. We conceded 3 against Morton. Jack was sent off again and Miller Scored from the bench. Nothing about who else scored, did we go 3 nil up, did Jack get two yellows or a straight red, who played Nothing more can i find.

08 Oct 2017 13:23:40
We do all want the same thing brian, but white can't be black just because someone wears blue specs. I understand that we have to be patient but when a lack of progress is evident then this leads to people becoming impatient especially when other people try and sugar coat it. Now back to the game yesterday if we had a full team with 3 younger players making appearances then a 3-3 draw is a very poor result against a mid table 1st div side. On the other hand if it was a team full of youngsters then we could be raving about how well they done.

08 Oct 2017 13:40:28
Big cliff where did you see that jack was sent off that is part of what I am trying to find out well when we lost to St Johnstone in a bounce natch the papers were all over it that's for sure sorry cliff but I konestly believe if there was anything the press could have milked from yesterday the most definitely would have! Not saying I'm happy with the score but get a bit pee'd off at our clubs medi a for not reporting anything and they are not great regarding the development team but are improving slightly

08 Oct 2017 14:50:15
Dhimalloy said that jack got sent off but he also claims that he is not obsessed. So take from that what you will.

08 Oct 2017 15:32:35
Unfortunately Brian it was on one of there Blogs that i seen it as the main story was not concentrating on the result. It was concentrating on the fact that Miller had scored coming off the bench and that Jack being sent off again hadnt even hit the papers as if it had been Scott Brown the media would have been all over it. Regardless of the importance of the game, the fans are extremely interested in how the team got on. No coverage at all is pretty poor.

08 Oct 2017 15:46:05
on Follow Follow they are saying that it was a mix of starting 11, bench and youngsters playing. Plenty of substitutions. Miller saved our blushes with an equaliser. Holt and Dalcio scored the other goals and Jack silly lazy challenges. i'm only going by comments. Still nothing verified. There was also a comment that said we actually won 4-1. Mental that in this day and age you can't even get the rangers website to give an overview of a rangers match.

08 Oct 2017 15:51:59
A kenny miller tribute? What's that meant to mean?

08 Oct 2017 15:24:50

I have read a few of your posts and the negativity that comes from you is beyond a joke to be fair.
I ain’t pedros biggest fan, but will get behind while he is still rangers manager.
Fans like you want instant success and that isn’t going to happen period no matter who is the manager and to be that’s not opinion that’s fact.

Pedro is trying to build something you can’t build something in one transfer window.
Reel yer head in and support the club and manager.

08 Oct 2017 15:27:54
That game yesterday doesn’t matter one bit can't believe people are even debating it on here.

Did we lose points in the league from it?
Did we get put out of cup comp for it?

No we didn’t, it was a closed doors game.

08 Oct 2017 16:34:46
Gannet10 where you one of the ones singing about the magic hat at this stage of last season? When we were 2nd? We can see no change in what was unacceptable towards the end of last season. Pedro was a big risk and we have backed him with big money. When will the penny drop. Its not about instant success its about progression. Which i for one have seen none. Apart from growing debt again.

08 Oct 2017 17:17:54
Gannet, if you read my posts as you say then you would have known that I have said that I know we need to be patient but there is no sign of progress. So how you get instant success from that is beyond me. So instead of bumping your gums about something you clearly know nothing about I suggest you reel your head in and away and do your homework.

08 Oct 2017 20:15:05
Guys for goodness sake get a grip. You sound like a gaggle of tight brides.

08 Oct 2017 22:30:22
I read that Jack was sent off for swearing at the ref and it sounds like a lot of the reserves and youth got a kick in the bounce game.

09 Oct 2017 16:07:56
Big cliff singing about a magic hats now that’s laughable.
Coldo you are wanting instant success that’s why you want rid of the manage.

I don’t need to do homework last time I don’t that was a lot of years ago I know your type you are what’s wrong with rangers fans these days.

09 Oct 2017 16:15:33
Now we know that the 'game' was a training exercise of three 35 minute periods during which we fielded three sets of players including an all-teenage back four with a 15 year old centre half, will any of the moaners, naysayers and secret mhankies be apologising for their ridiculous comments?

09 Oct 2017 21:41:30
No gannet read the posts, I said there has been no progress that's why I want shot of ped. If you had done your homework you'd know that's the point I have been making. So that's the 2nd time I have had to tell you this. I suggest you go and do your homework because you are going to make yourself sound dafter than you already have done if I have to tell you a 3rd time.

09 Oct 2017 21:49:58
Seriously bigsam, that's the point we were making. We wanted to know if it was a full team as it would have been a bad result if it was but if it was a young team then we would be saying how well they done. Infact if you read the previous posts you'd know this. Weren't you throwing about the word 'illiterate' the other day? Pot kettle and all that.

12 Oct 2017 21:06:19
Illiterate is obviously a word you don't know the meaning of. "How well they done", now that's illiterate.

07 Oct 2017 20:14:08
seen chat of us looking at lewis morgan of st mirren whos contract up next summer. anyone any knowledge of what he is like?

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07 Oct 2017 21:13:05
He's certainly been looked at because he was in our youth system a few years ago. It's also reported that Tosh McKinlay has recommended him to the mhankies, but that's not much to go on. The laddie's probably had a decent game or two and his agent is now actively trying to punt him to somebody.

He played for Scotland against England at under 21 level the other night and I never heard anyone raving about him. He's just turned 21 and should be at the stage where he is very close to being a first team player and I don't think he would be. We've probably got better on our books (Atakayi? ) .

08 Oct 2017 09:00:44
Yes have heard lots of good reviews about this kid on ssc and other st mirren fans is it another kenny mcclean and so many others scenario

08 Oct 2017 10:26:08
I'd definitely take him. For all the moans about us never producing young players he is another example that it isn't the producing them that is the problem it is identifying which ones we keep. The other night watching the auld enemy u21's I went into it looking to see Burke as the main attacking option but in my opinion it was morgan his hunger definitely outstripped that of Burke and if we can get him back it would be a good bit of business. For all those Pedro haters the fact he tries out young players gives us more of a chance in identifying and keeping our best from the academy

07 Oct 2017 12:15:39
Who are our players entering the final six months of their contracts?

Holt, Wilson, Miller?

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07 Oct 2017 12:42:55

07 Oct 2017 12:45:07
More importantly Declan John and also Nemane who I think could be good calls for pre-contracts in Jan.

07 Oct 2017 14:50:07
I would agree with Declan John but Newmane has not featured much so it's difficult to say whether we should sign him on a pre contract.

07 Oct 2017 18:43:40

07 Oct 2017 21:14:31
I think in January it could be just 2 or 3 in and maybe 3 out, because we won't pay off both Miller and Krancjar as that would cost upwards of £1 million. At least one of them will be there until the bitter end.

07 Oct 2017 22:14:37
Declen John is the only one with a chance to get a permanent deal maybe hardy could get a new deal other than that I think miller bates kranjcar will all go

07 Oct 2017 22:37:26
Nemane needs game time he surely can't be any worse than Windass if he is any good we should get him and declan john on pre-contracts I think kranjar miller and bates definitely won't get new deals next year.

05 Oct 2017 11:01:41
Weiss WILL sign a pre contract in January if it is offered, spoke to the man himself and he claims to have been in contact with Pedro from he joined Rangers.

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05 Oct 2017 11:16:54
Interesting both yourself and blueblood say the same thing, you don't by any chance work in the same place? Weiss would be a great signing, a step up in quality and he would play for the badge. Exactly what we need.

05 Oct 2017 12:36:29
He won't be signing any pre-contract as he plays outwith the eu. He could sign once he's out of contract but nothing can be done until then unless his club agrees to it.

06 Oct 2017 10:43:22
he has another 2-3 seasons n his current contract. would be exactly what we need but it won't happen

06 Oct 2017 10:49:06
Utter nonsense, Gustavo, pre-contract agreements have absolutely nothing to do with the EU!

06 Oct 2017 10:56:50
Why is everyone so excited about Weiss he wasn't that great first time round and if he hadn't kissed the badge every ten mins or stood in the home end at a few matches he'd be forgotten about by now.

06 Oct 2017 12:31:50
gustavo is actually correct, bosman deals only impact players within the EU.

06 Oct 2017 13:14:17
Yep. Gustavo is correct, Bosman ruling was by the European court of Justice and only applies to players moving from one EU team to another.

{Ed002's Note - The Bosman ruling is recognised under both under FIFA and domestic rules applied by individual FAs - andit is recognised across the board.}

06 Oct 2017 17:12:06
As it would apply for EU citizens.

06 Oct 2017 17:15:48
It's a purely football matter and nothing at all to do with the EU.

06 Oct 2017 19:23:24
Aye but all this would be relevant if he was out of contract in the summer.

07 Oct 2017 12:00:42
Walker and McLean r available on a pre contract in January I think they will be our deals this winter if he had wanted Vlad we would have tried in the summer

07 Oct 2017 12:27:44
Weiss ( the only man to kiss the badge more than Halliday ) . Why do you think he is the correct choice? He ain't set the football world alight since he left the first time! I'm sure we must have one or two in the youth ranks or at least would benefit and grow by getting in the first team squad rather than Vladimir! We can't go on with " he was great first time around " or " he has Rangers at heart " as if this was the case 99.9% of us on here should get at least a chance!

07 Oct 2017 14:55:26
Because weiss is better than what we have and he has fight about him. Who cares if he kissed the badge.

07 Oct 2017 18:22:42
Utter single fish Weiss is only on the radar cause he's in Scotland with is nations team . dead story.

07 Oct 2017 22:15:53
He is under contract for another two seasons after this one

05 Oct 2017 10:45:13
vladimier wiess is waiting on pc comming in for him in the summer pc apoke to him just after the transfer window fact he told me this himself he is in my work with slovakia team i asked him straight this morning if he was commi g bk to rangers

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06 Oct 2017 08:12:42
According to transfer market weiss is contracted to the qatar team until 2020 . So he won't be signing a pre contract in january

06 Oct 2017 21:04:52
Depends on who the new manager is in january if he wants to sign a player who was on loan with us for 6 month about 7 year ago.

04 Oct 2017 16:28:52
3rd kit released fri, can thankfully say my mate was true about the 6th 😎😎😎😎😎.

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04 Oct 2017 19:01:49
Its a really nice top to be fair. I like the black tops especially with the wee touch of blue. My boys will be happy.

04 Oct 2017 19:54:31
Be nice to know what we get from the £59.99 price for the top!

04 Oct 2017 20:19:34
Blue nose the fee I’ve seen on the Rangers megastore web page is 54.99

04 Oct 2017 20:53:56
All football tops are so overpriced it ain't funny, some families with 2 or 3 kids wanting it must cost people a fortune, mine are too wee, i just pre ordered and it cost me nearly 60 notes including delivery

04 Oct 2017 21:28:16
top looks like a hastily designed bit of cheap kit to try n get more money out the fans i'll be glad to see the back of puma.

04 Oct 2017 21:59:05
Prices are shocking, they play on the fact that kids will beg their parents for the new kits. I hope its nike or addidas next season.

05 Oct 2017 12:28:50
A plain black kit?! 😴😴😴

06 Oct 2017 10:44:58
for me to bring out a top at this stage of the season is just for the money wich i will gladly give but since we are not in europe then i'd like to see the price being a little fairer.

06 Oct 2017 11:01:36
I agree that it's a poor effort with no imagination! Looks like a training top

06 Oct 2017 17:00:23
For me it looks like a training kit! very poor attempt.

04 Oct 2017 00:45:25
Pena will not be penalised for alleged use of elbow, according to stv news.

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04 Oct 2017 10:46:52
Pity. Pedro will play him now. He is a liability. Sorry an unfit liability!
Barjonas or holt should be given a chance.
Pena should be playing with the under20s till he is match fit

04 Oct 2017 11:13:21
Don't understand what the compliance officer actually does to be honest.

I'm pleased in this case but if he doesn't punish elbows, kicks, horror tackles then what's the point of him?

04 Oct 2017 11:47:11
Spot on huntywallsend, I would give barjonas a shot and maybe hardie upfront with morelos. Both hardie and barjonas are better options that pena and herrera who cost 5mil.

04 Oct 2017 14:33:17
The Campbell, the compliance officers job is to punish elbows, kicks and horror tackles, but from what I saw, Pena didn't make contact, therefor, no case to answer. My problem with the said CO is inconsistency. Look at that Jump the dyke Broom for instance. Two obvious connecting elbow assaults on Rangers players and feck all punishment!

04 oct 2017 19:47:18
barjonas is a cdm

05 Oct 2017 09:38:44
Rt Pena tried to elbow him mate, take the blinkers off. As for the rest of your post that's exactly my point. He's doing absolutely nothing. Bizarre.

03 Oct 2017 12:48:14
Supercooper, was asking about miller to falkirk rumour and they haven't heard anything they are diehard fans but i tell you what the look on there faces was one of delight, they would gladly take him no worries and i personally think he would do a great job there.

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03 Oct 2017 20:25:05
He has no managerial experience whatsoever so what makes you think he will do well?

03 Oct 2017 22:36:13
I think he'd be second to somebody and the amount of youth players through falkirk is incredible, i now live here and the setup is brilliant going out to every school etc imagine having somebody come in like that to your school or on the park inspiring young players,

04 Oct 2017 17:57:47
From Falkirk myself they've always been a top community club and the lit's of players they've brought through the youth system that now play in the top division and clubs down south is incredible. Used to play with Tam Scobbie in the youths so saw first hand how good some of their boys are. Ambitious club run right and Miller could be a good fit for them

04 Oct 2017 21:03:44
Falkirk have appointed Paul Hartley

02 Oct 2017 23:43:34
Some players Rangers must surely be interested in bringing in. Moult, Walker, McLean, Souttar, Bartley (Hibs) . strength and goal threat through out there I think.

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03 Oct 2017 05:54:37
What about john fleck, not because he is an ex player but because he is a really good level headed player. I've watched him a few times tgis season and he really stands out most games.

03 Oct 2017 07:18:14
Could certainly do worse than bring John Fleck back he's a solid pro Fod.

03 Oct 2017 10:42:35
for me moult is an absolute must and if we can we need to get more options for rb as tav can't defend.

03 Oct 2017 11:19:35
Should have got calum paterson, another fine spl talent slipped through the net.

03 Oct 2017 12:00:31
I agree Peds Moult is a necessity a solid defensive rb would be great and a cb with pace who can cover at lb would be good someone like Magnusson I think you call him at Bristol .

04 Oct 2017 00:02:04
I said it at the time and I still say the same. We should have went and got cummings and mcginn from hibs. Now I understand that Rangers are neither of there fav clubs but both more than capable and will have massive sell on values! We obv missed out on cummings but what’s the thoughts on mcginn?

04 Oct 2017 14:40:56
If we're banning green boots, we won't be signing thims like McGinn lol

06 Oct 2017 17:10:11
id love mcginn to come play for us as he may be one of them but we cold use a tallented player like him buzzing around the middle of the park.

02 Oct 2017 07:13:03
So Keith Jackson of the DR has come out today and stated under no certain terms was Kenny Miller leaking stories to his newspaper. So it begs the question (s) .

Who is the rat?

Why has Miller been banished?

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02 Oct 2017 08:27:23
Cos he's the leak

02 Oct 2017 09:03:12
James2016 so Keith Jackson says it wasn't Kenny so you believe him do you expect him to tell the truth that rag wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the arse I haven't seen the story and will not read the story I ask you the question what are you reading and believing the crap printed in that rag

02 Oct 2017 09:08:58
all jackson does in the article is make himself look an idiot, he starts off bumming up celtic players then gordon strachan, then lays the blame on traynor of rangers, only covering up for miler and himself

02 Oct 2017 09:12:05
Keith's jackson is a rat anyway, don't read the record it only keeps him in a job. Every day on the way to work I bought the sun and the record but haven't in years because of the Keith jacksons if this world. I hate him and I believe no self respecting rangers fan should bother with that rag. Ignore him he will go away

02 Oct 2017 09:55:23
Keith Jackson is a poor excuse of a journalist. I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to protect his mole. of course he would. But his anti rangers agenda is almost palpable at times. Last piece I read from him was when he likened our club to North Korea all because we introduced our own cameras for press conferences. failing to note all major clubs do this. United Barcelona Madrid Liverpool and it's designed so our management and staff can analyze our perfomrnaces in front of camera. Mr Jackson didn't like it because now we as fans can have direct access to these and he can't twist or write entirely what he likes. do not trust anything he writes I wouldn't even read him any more. His vitrol doesn't deserve oxygen.

02 Oct 2017 10:17:43
Answer is simple. Let kenny speak. I am a firm believer in 2 sides to a story. The club have spoken by their actions ( not words) so let kenny speak. Jackson says not kenny. If kenny says not me. The club may find themselves in legal difficulty if they throw around allegations they can't prove.
On the footballing front miller has been a great professional. I can't sayme using the same term with pedro.
In terms of managerial ability the jury is out. His signings so far leave a lot to be desired and his ability to constantly pick non performing players is worrying. Pens and windass can't perform more than 20 mins at best. So rather than getting knickers in a twist about what players may or not be saying get to grips with the core business. Picking a team that can pass a ball and compete for 90 mins. Now is that what rangers about. Remember pedro and s ott brown. Well look at pena v hamilton. An absolute disgrace for a man that cost €2mill+.
This in my opinion is why we have these smokescreens at ibrox. Pedro is out of his depth. Where was he managing was it Qatar?
Says it all

02 Oct 2017 10:52:18
Hunty, show us when the club has accused Kenny of being the leak? I really hope it isn't Kenny, but for too long stories have been seeping out of Ibrox.
Kenny has been a great servant for Rangers, but in truth we play better without him in the team, and whilst I'm not saying Pena is the answer, the team has a better shape about it with him in it than with Miller.

02 Oct 2017 11:47:48
Reidy. Bt sport had a pretty good go at it. Kenny now with the under 20s!
So if you read my post i don't say the club have accused him in words but by actions. Kenny hasn't played well and he isn't alone. However why the under 20s there's more in the first team that need game time. Pena windass are but 2 whi need to be able to perform for 90 mins

02 Oct 2017 13:33:15
Hunty, Pedro was managing in Qatar yes, correct.

He also won 3 titles in Mexico and reached the CONCACAF Champions League Final. But that doesn't suit your argument so we will just ignore that ae?

Considering we are in a league that recently has seen Irish teams go further in Europe than the majority of our own teams, I think you should be wary of slagging off anybodies league. (Qatar) .

02 Oct 2017 13:46:00
Plenty support for miller from the usual sources. However, what would Walter, or Souness or God forbid Barry Ferguson or McLeish have done? Ignore it? I don't think so!

02 Oct 2017 14:36:27

Ignore what?
As of yet, all he may be guilty of is questioning his authority
The leak thing is just smoke and mirrors, a few months back it was definitely Wallace - now its Miller.

As for leaks, during 9 in a row - there were numerous leaks to the press, it just so happened to be at a time when we were flying so no one cared.
Then Advocaat - a leak about the shorts being too short and tight, or the boot deals.
Under McLeish there was the Ricksen debacles that were leaked from the training ground as well.

02 Oct 2017 15:45:56
I actually can't believe that our own fans are so quick to turn on Miller over spurious rumours. This guy has been an excellant servant to our club and a model professional throughout. You may feel that he isn't the player he was and that the team play better without him. That is fine. But to brand him a Rat or to endorse unfounded rumours that do so is frankly disgusting. To me Miller is and always will be a Rangers Legend and I thank you for your service to our club over the years.

02 Oct 2017 16:45:52
I'm not saying miller WAS Anything but a great servant to Rangers. But his time has gone as a player at least.
However something has obviously went wrong somewhere and if the manager, ANY manager, doesn't deal with it, the situation will get worse.
IF miller is guilty of anything other than mouthing off, then he's toast I'm afraid.

02 Oct 2017 18:04:47
That twat Tom English also states Miller was not the leak, more than likely Miller spoke out of turn like Barton last season

02 Oct 2017 20:43:54
I fully believe there's no way it's Kenny Miller, how long have stories from inside Rangers came out, well before he came back for his third spell. Would not be surprised if it was Jim Traynor in the slightest

02 oct 2017 22:48:01
kenny has been a model pro and it would shock me if it where to come out that he was the leak but surely if we had any proof whatso ever then he would be sacked not just demoted to the unders.

03 Oct 2017 08:50:31
TheBlueBlazer I can remember Grahame Roberts being sent to play with the reserves in a friendly on Harris not London yes Harris for something that happened in the dressing room when Souness was the manager so during nine in a row players were dealt with if they stepped out of line let's just see what happened but what I will say is the team pulled together on fri night and got the job done and when the third goal went in the team ran to the manager so does that tell you a story I don't know


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