08 Dec 2021 08:21:08
Re academy players possibly leaving or "doing a Gilmour" is it really any wonder, not only massive opportunity financially but we don't have a track record of using youth. Wasted years while coming back up divisions, and since Warburton and his boasts about youth development we've signed 94 players in 7 seasons and SG left us with the oldest squad in Scotland. Hopefully Gios experience and ex Ajax coach will make a difference.


1.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 11:03:05
Doing a Gilmour got us Aribo and Kamara only difference is they done it to our clubs to join Rangers.


2.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 11:20:24
We've never had a good track record for producing / giving youngsters a chance for years.
Since 1985 I believe only the following have broken through of any real quality to enhance the first team:-
Durrant, Derek Ferguson ( outstanding before falling out with Souness ) , Barry Ferguson, Moore, Hutton, McGregor and Patterson ( if he continues his progress ) being successful.
Plenty of others have crashed and burned.
7 players in 36 years!
John25 mentioned Andrew Dallas the other day. Scored for fun in the Rangers youth teams but is now in the English National League. With a goal scoring record of 20 in 96 games since he left Rangers.
Some people are just head and shoulders above their peers at an early age but don't develop any further.
In that respect we can't throw huge money at every young player who shows a glimmer of talent. A lot easier for the top sides in the EPL etc to do this as they have a lot more disposable income than us.


3.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 11:22:21
Agree sweep it's the model we should have used far more. Not just ajax but look at success of even other giants like dortmund and bayern still signing and using youth. They go there because they believe they will get a chance not just for money.


4.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 11:28:55
It's a short career so they have every right to look after themselves on the doing a Gilmour Chelsea have one of the best youth product systems in Europe I remember a interview which Gilmour did where he did a day in the life for Chelsea TV and some of the things he was doing you simply wouldn't get at us one example was he was studying and training with Cesc Fabregas.


5.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 12:29:32
U r 100% on the button, MrPH. some on here wanted us to pay Rory Wilson 20 k a week to keep him, four times what we pay Paterson.


6.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 13:24:07
MPH, Maurice Ross, Barry Nicholson, Greg Shields, Steven Hughes, Bob Malcolm, John Fleck, Robert Fleck, Scott Nisbet, Hugh Burns, Gary McSwegan, off the top of my head, all broke into our first team and some even went on to be international players. There are a lot more and while they might not have been superstars they certainly justify our youth system. Yes, there were poor years especially the McCoist era, but to suggest your seven are all there were is misleading at best, mate.


7.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 13:29:09
Chris burke done ok and charlie adam went in to have a very good career.


8.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 14:08:04
I take your point Tavsonloyal, but I'm talking about players who were good enough to break into the Rangers first team and hold their own.
None of the ones you mentioned played 100 games for Rangers.
And I bet a good few never even played 50 times for Rangers.
And not many were a huge success elsewhere.
Doing OK elsewhere isn't good enough for Rangers.
Would you honestly have any of the ones you mentioned over any of the players who kept them out the Rangers first team at that time?


9.) 08 Dec 2021
08 Dec 2021 19:17:34
These were all straight off the top of my head, MPH, and others have also pointed to successful players like Burke, Adam, McCormack etc. Maurice Ross got 14 Scotland caps, for instance, Adam played for Liverpool and the players I mentioned did indeed break into our first team. All of which rather makes your assertion of 'seven in 36 years' look a bit weak.