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05 Jan 2025 10:26:46
JFM these are for you:
Alan Nixon saying that WBA looking at Adam Devine and a small fee may be involved
also Turkish website saying Everton looking at defender in Turkey. This could clear the way for Patterson move (to us? ) as they said they won't let him go without a replacement being bought.
1.) 05 Jan 2025 11:30:46
Love all rumours.
Keep them coming.
2.) 05 Jan 2025 11:49:53
I'd love Patterson to return, but can't see it.
3.) 05 Jan 2025 12:17:17
Patterson on loan would be a no-brainer for me. Especially if Devine is off.
4.) 05 Jan 2025 12:29:49
He'd be good but Rather concentrate on CB.
5.) 05 Jan 2025 13:04:33
We need at least one ch that has to be top priority.
6.) 05 Jan 2025 14:56:20
Am I the only 1 that doesn't want Patterson back. Great talent but is injury prone. Would rather sign someone similar to mackenzie from Aberdeen that's a strong defender and more importantly not out injured all the time.
7.) 05 Jan 2025 15:07:37
Bellshill i feel similar as and I would take Max Johnston as he’s decent, he’s young and we could continue to develop himself
I wouldn’t say no to Patterson just now though and the way we are defending I would take Jimmy Nicholl just now.
8.) 05 Jan 2025 15:42:06
I agree and don't really want to bring back players on loan; rather get someone we will keep. I know Cerny and Sima were great but we then have to lose them to find the next one.
9.) 05 Jan 2025 15:45:51
Bellshill he plays on the left the boy from the sheep Paterson is a right back.
10.) 05 Jan 2025 17:19:40
Patterson 'injury prone' ideal for the Bears!
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12 Apr 2025 22:24:17
After midweek I have been wondering re our defending. we just held the 4th place la Liga team goalless with only 10 men. we always say we can't defend but this isn't the case from that evidence. so is it we can't defend against quick turnover and attacks, when all our defenders have to do is defend then they can. how do we solve that problem in games where we have most of the possession and ask our defenders to attack?
1.) 13 Apr 2025 00:04:58
We can't defend against physical teams which most teams in the spfl are. We can't defend corners and long throws. Which is not the European way.
Our league is probably the only top tier league in World football where every team has a "long throw special-ist". It's mental but how can you blame teams when it is often effective?
2.) 13 Apr 2025 07:01:09
Correct Zikos.
Angus they are one off games that we defend well.
3.) 13 Apr 2025 07:59:34
I know Storm but the point I am trying to make is that they aren't bad defenders but just the way we normally try to play makes them look that way. our FBs normally aren't there as we try to make use of the 80% possession we have. so no matter the defender we will have too find a way to play which allows us to attack whilst being solid at back. when we have all 4 sitting back we tend to be okay.
4.) 13 Apr 2025 09:23:45
Angus, just posted in the thread above - for me it comes down to the distance between our backline and our forwards - which in SPL is massive, which renders our midfield useless.
In Europe and against Celtic they play with a higher defensive line, which shrinks the game for us and allows our defense to sit deep and still be connected to our midfield and strikers.
If you watch back the Fener game at Ibrox, Jose changed it so his defense say deep and they pinged passes over the midfield in to the space which killed us.
5.) 13 Apr 2025 09:45:48
The Naismith article was good on the different positioning of players at turn overs between league and Europe. 3 CBs helps. One thing I'd say is we have missed a Lundstrum type player with the physicality to drop back into defence when needed and give that extra stability.
6.) 13 Apr 2025 10:18:57
Aye we need to replace loose one Lundstram, let's study English lower leagues for a bargain, How's Lundstram doing now?
10 Apr 2025 22:13:43
I missed game as on holiday but a quick question. Is there anyone who before game wouldn't have taken a result which gives us a chance in 2nd leg. That is what I hoped for.
1.) 10 Apr 2025 22:29:12
Great result considering the early red v a very good side. Shout out to kelly great game.
2.) 10 Apr 2025 22:32:16
Definitely take that result. Big shout out to rice and kelly, Liam has the gloves now. Was surprised at Bilbao, didn't trouble us too much.
3.) 10 Apr 2025 23:05:36
We are going to do them next week Angus and if we don't then we didny, Have a happy holiday?.
4.) 11 Apr 2025 08:16:54
Thanks three cheers. Competing with the team who is 4th in la liga over 2 legs is good for a team from scotland whatever the end result.
20 Mar 2025 21:45:44
Is it just me or does Liam McLeod on Scotland match commentary sound so disappointed when we win. either way he has got to be the worst commentartor I have ever heard.
1.) 21 Mar 2025 05:29:43
No Angus, it's not just you pal.
2.) 21 Mar 2025 08:06:57
Angus, you are spot on, I listen to Gers games on the bbc, and I have never heard a more anti-Rangers commentator in my life. He really gets excited about Celtic, gushes about them constantly. Pitiful to listen to at times, have never heard a good word about our team.
3.) 21 Mar 2025 08:33:37
Worst commentator ever? Are we including Michael Stewart in this?
4.) 21 Mar 2025 08:53:01
I don't like international football, and for that reason I rarely watch it.
5.) 21 Mar 2025 09:38:38
Angus did you read his article couple of weeks ago week about Scottish clubs failing in Europe.
The guy is a rocket and definitely one of the worst commentators ever.
I was lucky to listen to charismatic commentators such as Archie macpherson, jock brown, Arthur montfort, and Derek Rae.
6.) 21 Mar 2025 09:59:07
Superally I see Stewart more as a pundit so the McFadyen role and last night he wasn't particularly positive either. not saying I agree with what Stewart says but he is a bit more animated than the two last night. I was reminded on an i'm Jolly sketch a lot of the time. but you are right my hyperbole re him being the worst is possibly a little much as there are a few on the list.
7.) 21 Mar 2025 10:13:01
Get Ray Hudson doing the Scotland commentary.
8.) 21 Mar 2025 10:20:13
I'm the same Mark, just not into it at all.
9.) 21 Mar 2025 10:28:10
He is an absolute fud, the most biased commentator along with the rest of the bbc/ snp crew!
10.) 21 Mar 2025 10:47:16
I. M Jolly on "Last Call" sketch
"where did u get r water"?
One of the funniest sketches I seen back in the day. ??.
11.) 21 Mar 2025 11:44:25
Liam McLeod is a dyed in the wool Sheep fan.
Says it all really. ??.
06 Mar 2025 19:48:32
Whoever suggested it would be 3-1 to us tonight and I poopahed it I must apologise. I hope you had money on it.
18 Feb 2025 08:47:24
Hi all I see the term just doesn't get Scottish football on here all the time but tbh I don't actually know what people mean when they say that. I just think normally that it is just another barb to hit a (usually) foreign but always a manager people don't like. I understand the league is more physical but Celtic manage without having that need for huge CHs. so just wondered if people could enlighten me. If we could try to not use it as a thread to defend or attack our current manager that would be even better and stick to the question please. thanks.
1.) 18 Feb 2025 09:25:31
Ask another one? been watching it for 50 years, and haven't a clue?.
2.) 18 Feb 2025 09:53:27
I think when we play in Europe we see the different style of football. In Scottish football probably down to finances many of the clubs are barely above amateur status of other countries trying to keep afloat with hardly any fans. Any talent or skill is quickly snapped up down south meaning the majority of teams resort to the low block football we struggle to break down. Poor weather and facilities and lack of academies mean it's harder to develop attractive football seen in other countries. The ineptitude of the SFA has destroyed development. We used to base much of our football on being physically strong like the Colin Henry braveheart approach but Football has changed so we can't play to the strengths of Scottish mentality and we struggle to adapt to the more technical side of the game. You could say EPL football was the same and it was British football before. The difference is they.
3.) 18 Feb 2025 09:56:21
Sorry hit send early. England have struggled till recently for the same British football reason. The difference now is the vast wealth that's been ploughed in taking the Premier league to a different stratosphere. At least that's some of my idea of "Scottish football"
4.) 18 Feb 2025 10:03:06
Hi Angus. I think simply put, Celtic have signed players that are suitable to Scottish football whereas we have not except a maybe a handful. I don't think its another barb to strike the manager with. Its a genuine factor. I don't think Phil gets our game and I think that's reflected in our poor tactics and the league table.
5.) 18 Feb 2025 10:17:53
Can give quite a few examples like the spine of the team is missing.
Our style of play is counter attack and we don't control games, speed of play is too pedestrian with teams that sit in, lack of natural width.
Need a strong goalie, centre half, defensive mid and striker then you build players around that.
I've said before we don't target these players to help the young players adapt and flourish.
6.) 18 Feb 2025 10:40:34
Cheers Kaiser so I understand all that but does a Scottish manager who is used to managing the other teams in the league have a way to play to break it down. I don't want us playing like another Kilmarnock. Also how does any foreign manager manage to adapt to that when they aren't used to it. Muscat is always mentioned and whilst he played for us and knows the club he doesn't set his teams up to have to beat a low block. I think we need to buy players to beat that low block rather than have the big physical type to beat the hammer throwers I guess is what I am saying. we do need a physicality but that doesn't mean being huge at the expense of playing well. yes before anyone jumps on the bandwagon I know we arent.
I am trying to discuss the practicalities of how we play against or in this environment rather than the manager who does it; yes I know I mention Muscat
I actually think Fork might be closer to the answer when it comes to us average supporters.
7.) 18 Feb 2025 10:44:39
Thi k where we lack in terms of not suiting the Scottish game is were a soft touch, we don't seem to have the fire in the belly and the wee bit of nastiness when it's required. Were too easily bullied, again that's nothing to do with physical stature in terms of having big burly defenders but more about players who play with aggression.
8.) 18 Feb 2025 10:56:10
I disagree Angus, I don't think Fork is closer to the truth. Look at PLG signings and style of play and then Walters signings and style of play when he took over from PLG. That's the best example to describe what you are asking. I also think the PLG scenario is very similar to what we are seeing with Phil. PLG never got Scottish football or the club and I don't think Phil does either.
9.) 18 Feb 2025 11:04:28
I also think I've maybe misread the question tho it would be helpful for the manager to understand these too. He also needs to understand the demands of the fans in a 2 horse league. Across the city they lost one league and lost the plot so applies to both sides. Any new manager to Scotland needs to know rebuild harder here to do through youth development he may have experienced before because there is none here. So there many factors that make it different and maybe make it harder for managers to understand.
10.) 18 Feb 2025 12:29:39
Angus Carter Vickers is hugely important for them and he's big.
11.) 18 Feb 2025 12:43:05
?Truth, you can't handle the truth???.
12.) 18 Feb 2025 12:50:43
Hi again
I wasn't trying to make any point on this perhaps other than to show that despite being said no-one is truly able to explain what gets Scottish football means. I used Fork as he actually answered the question although Kaiser you did talk about Scottish football as well. everyone else answered on what the team needed to succeed. and simply repeating that two managers never got Scottish football doesn't answer the question
as examples:
why does Scottish football need a spine but no other league does?
why is it only Scottish football that requires width, speed of play and need to control games
why does Scottish football need a strong GK, CM CH etc and other leagues dont.
what do Celtic players have that transmits to Scotland that our players don't have. but that is back to what getting Scotland means because until we break that we won't buy those players.
do teams in other leagues not 'bully' the opposition, do the leagues not need teams not to be a soft touch.
so I understand the need for what has been said in some above but down understand why Scottish football needs it and no other league does.
Kaiser I think your second post possibly hits on the truth I suspect is the case: we are in a two horse league and the team in 2nd has a manager who doesn't get Scottish football. worry is we can't go for a foreign manager as those leagues don't require all of the above and there is no way they will get Scottish football.
I still don't understand the difference but the debate was interesting and nothing too malicious about the current manager.
13.) 18 Feb 2025 13:51:50
Kick and rush and hammer throwers.
14.) 18 Feb 2025 14:07:59
Every successful team has had a spine and needs a spine in any league. The question has been answered. Look at the chaos under PLG and then look how Walter fixed it. That is all the information you need that explains why Phil is failing in the Scottish game because he is doing exactly what PLG did. He's implementing a system and signing players that does not work in Scotland. I know you said you don't understand the difference, neither did PLG or Phil and that's the problem.
15.) 18 Feb 2025 14:36:41
Angus it's not only Scottish football it's everywhere.
The successful teams will always have a strong spine and just to be sure I'm not comparing just using them as a mere example.
16.) 18 Feb 2025 14:39:01
Posted a reply on this earlier, think Eds looking at his eyelids again??.
{Ed001's Note - shhhh, it is difficult to sleep with all the noise you are making.}
17.) 18 Feb 2025 14:39:44
Scratch that Ed it's down there⬇️.
{Ed001's Note - and you are still stomping around making all that blooming noise!}
18.) 18 Feb 2025 15:03:59
PLG signed Lietzi, Svensson, Clement, Sionko and Sebo. Only papac worked out.
Phil signed, Propper, Jefte, Diomande, Bajrami, Barron. Only Igamane has worked out.
To fix the mess of PLG, Walter signed. Weir, Whittaker, Thomson, Boyd, Naismith, Davis, Miller. McGregor was installed as number 1. Ferguson was reinstated as captain.
If you can't see what is obvious then I think you are in the same boat as PLG and Phil.
19.) 18 Feb 2025 15:22:19
Aye fork going to try and post on the right thread mate? ?? Poor Ed.
20.) 18 Feb 2025 15:58:05
Not asking what makes a successful team but what is getting Scottish football but got the answers I expected.
Rosevale of the 5 CBs we have only Nsiala is shorter than Carter Vickers. CVV is much heavier but that just makes it more difficult to get off the ground doesn't it ?
Once a Ger using PLG as an example isn't perhaps the fairest of comparisons when you have Advocate, GVB and many other comparisons. How about if we look at Walter's record at Everton and ask did he not get British football. Or as is probably fairer look at the background issues that were apparent there as at least part of the excuse.
21.) 18 Feb 2025 16:12:31
Whit ma like, apologies ed☺️☺️.
{Ed001's Note - it's ok sporky, you deserved the chance to get a bit of revenge.}
22.) 18 Feb 2025 16:14:00
Perhaps I should have stuck to the film quotes thread. or how do you know an infirm old firm supporter? ??.
23.) 18 Feb 2025 16:24:49
Onceager i think you are overly simplifying things. PLG tried to change the style and philosophy of a team that was mainly still in place. the players didn't want to buy into his style and made it very difficult to transition to the new system.
i am fairly certain that PC has been told his target it to cream as much out of EU competitions as possible as that's where we will get out money from. Playing football that wins in Scotland won't do so well in EU. so what do you do apart from having a scottish team and a EU team then not much. its trying to find then a balance of both and be masters of none.
24.) 18 Feb 2025 16:28:09
Angus I'm using PLG because that situation is very similar to Phil's situation. They both signed players and had or have a style not suited to our game. You do have the answers, you just don't want to accept the answers.
25.) 18 Feb 2025 16:51:26
Think it's also about understanding Scottish culture. British and Scottish football always appreciated a good up and atem put in a tackle mentality while viewing foreigners as fancy Dan divers. Doesn't mean can't be foreign but PLG an Pedro didn't get it. Our weather and pitches for even kids traditionally aren't conducive to more attractive football either so its been all about more physical battling football. So managers wanting to come and instil their own ideas need to know the foundations aren't there.
26.) 18 Feb 2025 17:55:53
Once a ger I got the answers mainly from you granted which says you don't have the answer to 'get Scottish football'.
It is your opinion they are similar but when you look at the facts rather than your opinion on poorly suited players then it isn't though. PLG came at a time when Rangers were throwing money at it but wanted to change their style to be successful in Europe. One man in charge of everything in Murray.
PC's situation no cash and actually doing well in Europe. Board and senior managers changing.
so other than your opinion that the players are not suited there is no substance to your argument.
27.) 18 Feb 2025 19:01:08
The biggest difference for me is in understanding the fabric of our club.
In many ways when a largely inexperienced group of foreign players face a stubborn low block their 'programming' is to stick to their process. Do what they train to do and if it works awesome, of it doesn't it's okay.
With the right core that mentality can be challenged, the right players can help override the programming and sacrifice the principles to do whatever is necessary to win.
Just look back to when we last won the league - we had McGregor, Davis, Jack and Arfield. Anyone of those 4 could change the direction of a game with one action.
28.) 18 Feb 2025 20:45:05
Angus if you want to talk to facts. PLG Spent around £5million so we were not throwing money at it. They don't get scottish football because they don't understand the type of player required to play in scottish football or the tactics required for scottish football. That's why he failed and its why phil is failing.
20 Apr 2025 10:15:12
Blue they need 51% to be able to have the majority if there were a vote to get anything done (except special resolution which needs 75%) . if they have less then they would rely on creating alliances with other shareholders which I don't see them being happy with. If they get more shares than current highest then all they become is majority shareholder and don't have the same influence.
19 Apr 2025 18:40:24
DeBoer all I am pointing out is that in the post below you didn't seem as confident, but I am being a little picky. Just the two posts together seemed a little disjointed. As I say I don't doubt what you say so please take no offence.
19 Apr 2025 17:20:47
Actually it isn't his football which would be an issue. the man is a scare and spends all his time fighting with everyone there is. I want my manager to have a bit more style and decorum about them. think the Americans might want the same. there are more managers out there who can be as successful here.
19 Apr 2025 17:18:37
De Boer not doubting anything you say but only 5 minutes ago you were quoting about people doubting and you being confident it would happen. the above is a little more that that.
personally I think the current process we are going through with cut backs and buying potential will see us good eventually anyway so I might be the only fan who doesn't have a worry on whether it happens or not anyway.
19 Apr 2025 10:05:11
3 cheers out of those criteria I wear specs but not all the time. However this is the first I have heard that the ground is split into physical characteristics. I wondered why no-one looked like me. I will be more careful at ST renewal this year ?.
20 Apr 2025 16:14:35
Correct scrambled and it took Hearts going down to 9 men before they Aberdeen scored the winner.
20 Apr 2025 16:06:47
In think it is just a ruse to keep attention away from Guardiola being appointed. He only wants £20M and a 4 star hotel.
20 Apr 2025 10:16:26
Ayebrox not sure that would be the case and using Ange at Celtic as an example of why that isn't always the case. players we buy would need to adapt straight away for it to happen but is possible.
20 Apr 2025 08:15:11
There is no last man rule it is denying a goalscoring opportunity. However it doesn't count as it was in the box. so yellow if an attempt is made to play ball, red if there wasnt. so if it was a penalty then red card as well by my interpretation.
however ignore the shirt falling apart and say again whether you think that the force of the pull and the duration of it was still sufficient for a penalty.
I did hear though that the referee was on 1 week in Lisbon if he denied us a penalty and 2 weeks if he gave them one as well ?. VAR didn't think the ref made a clear and obvious error.
always makes em laugh this "always cheated, never defeated' you might not like it but does that sound familiar.
19 Apr 2025 22:10:26
Fork, do you get mulligans on this forum as well; if only I had known a while back
Storm keep doing what you do as it needs to be done.