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06 Dec 2024 19:07:19
just heard Clement talking about the need for Scotland to follow other European countries and allow top clubs to have teams in championship to blood their youth. This would be the way to develop our youngsters so that they can at last make 1st team squad (at least) . not going to happen as it requires the other turkeys to vote for Christmas.

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1.) 06 Dec 2024 19:21:13
Great idea, but as you say, it's never happening. For something like that to happen, we would need to be part of a forward thinking set-up.


2.) 06 Dec 2024 20:20:32
It's the only way forward, pity the people in charge are so backwards.


3.) 06 Dec 2024 20:34:12
I`ve said it before the SFA are failing miserably in their governance of Scottish Football, no organised league football after 18 level for youngsters to continue to develop and no idea or drive to try to find a solution . Clubs don`t want reserve team football and they don`t want the bigger clubs to have teams in the lower leagues at a decent level, so what is the solution? Its a hard one to solve but the governing bodies have just given up in trying to find a solution. They just bury their heads, take their tickets for the big games and hope everything turns works in the long run.


4.) 06 Dec 2024 21:13:13
One of the worst decisions in Scottish Football was to restructure to play teams 4 times.

Not only is it boring, but it's also the problem that prevented progressive decision making for years.


5.) 06 Dec 2024 21:42:30
We had a B twam in lowland league and didn't win that so not much point putting thsm in the championship.


6.) 06 Dec 2024 22:05:52
Paul that’s bs just uttter nonsense as the championship is a higher standard and it works for loads of clubs all over the world.


7.) 06 Dec 2024 22:07:01
It’s not about winning the competition mate, it’s about youth development.


8.) 06 Dec 2024 22:23:04
Barcelona use it to great effect, he's correct in saying it ok loaning them out but there not playing the system we want played, it would be far better for the b teams to some how getting involved in the league set up.


9.) 06 Dec 2024 22:46:16
It’s madness that we have 42 professional teams for a country the size of Scotland. Teams like Annan, Cove Rangers and Edinburgh City have an average attendance of c.500 and they don’t realise they are a junior outfit. If you don’t have an attendance of 1.5k then you should be in a professional league. We’d be best having 2 leagues of 18 with the top tiers having b teams in the second league.


10.) 06 Dec 2024 22:53:21
The other clubs have made it quite clear that there will be no B teams allowed promotion. So Clement can talk all he likes but it's not happening. We've known this for some time.


11.) 06 Dec 2024 23:05:10
Its not storm the current be team would get scudded most weeks in championship. They would need to improve alot.


12.) 07 Dec 2024 08:11:08
Paul you’re missing the point mate, it’s not about the current b team as none of them will make it at Rangers. It’s about future b teams getting the experience they need to make the next step, they will only get that playing in a competitive league against men. Sending them on loan to teams that sit 10 men behind the ball isn’t going to prepare them for life at Rangers. There is a reason the Dutch, Spanish etc do it.


13.) 07 Dec 2024 08:17:18
storm is right Paul. The championship have better technical players than the lowland and they might get beaten initially but they would learn and improve. Imagine the pulling power to be able to say to young lads that they would play in our B team when they sign for us and some would progress to 1st team.
I read an article by a lawyer this morning where he states that down south is the same and the EPL writing their own rules keeps the game back so we are not alone. independent body who runs the game for the benefit of the game and not the self-interest of the clubs would be a step forward.

{Ed001's Note - but that is not to the benefit of the game, just to the benefit of a couple of big clubs that can afford to run B teams. That's why the EFL don't allow it.}


14.) 07 Dec 2024 08:18:19
That’s the whole point of it Paul them getting better just because it didn’t work in lowland league doesn’t mean it won’t work in a bette league. You need to start somewhere works for teams in Spain Holland Germany etc…. And none of the teams can get promoted to the top league.
It’s not about winning the league it’s all about development which some are clearly missing the point on.

Clement no clubs in other countries allowed promotion to the top league they can go up or down in leagues below the top league tho.

Anyone against explain why it works in many other countries but wouldn’t work in Scotland?


15.) 07 Dec 2024 08:18:58
I agree with that 100% ehl.


16.) 07 Dec 2024 09:28:50
however Ed it isn't restricted to just the OF as Hearts already have a B team in the lowland league. there is a chance that these teams would be developing players for the national team earlier and not requiring them to go abroad or down south. it works in Spain, Belgium and Holland so can't see how it wouldn't work here or in England. I think that the last time it was discussed that a chairman of a lower league club made just that comment though; that they weren't there to develop Rangers and Celtic players.

{Ed001's Note - it doesn't have any effect on the national side, it just helps the big sides there stay ahead of the rest. It is just selfish and spoils the game. Greed is already wrecking it, this is just another aspect of that enabling the rich to get richer at the expense of the small.}


17.) 07 Dec 2024 12:46:00
The point is that the B team were not allowed to move up through the leagues and progress, the likes of Lowry were so far above the Lowland League and just got a kicking . Maybe they should be made to start at this level but they should be allowed to progress up the leagues if they earn it.
Our B team this season have already beaten clubs in the various leagues and were beating Queens Park of the championship until Nsiala got sent off.
This format is used all over Europe including a major league like Spain and in countries like Belgium and Holland you can see more young players coming through and at an earlier age . Its not about greed if it was the EPL teams would have done it years ago .


18.) 07 Dec 2024 16:29:57
Wsl Lowry wasn’t so far ahead the boy could be playing there next year.


19.) 07 Dec 2024 19:52:29
We need to start some sort of deal with other clubs in Europe, b teams just not happening, surely we could work with lower clubs in Holland, Sweden, Norway, Belgium for example, this would help our youngsters and hopefully vice versa, we could have first dibs on their potential. Something needs to happen.


 

 

29 Nov 2024 18:37:52
dont know if anyone else has seen the story in the Sun about Kris Boyd and Sutton. Boydie thought he had been given a parking ticket on his way to work on Sky with Sutton only to open the envelope to find it wasnt a ticket but a note saying: "Chris Sutton is a twat". really made me smile and in fairness Sutton was belly laughing at it.

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1.) 29 Nov 2024 19:03:56
Class angus and only the truth init?


2.) 29 Nov 2024 19:07:13
great joke, but whoever left the note was right.


3.) 29 Nov 2024 19:50:55
Kris Boyd is much worse than a swat.


 

 

28 Nov 2024 22:03:52
not too bad for a bunch of useless players and a clueless manager eh. Yes only one game and we may be inconsistent but it shows that there is quality there. could have been 6 or 7 and their defensive frailties were caused by our good pressing and play.

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1.) 28 Nov 2024 22:29:34
PC set it up correctly, kudos??.


2.) 28 Nov 2024 22:31:15
Angus a few good performances, jefte Raskin proper igamane, cerny worked very hard chasing back.


3.) 28 Nov 2024 22:44:51
Absolutely well done tonight but it's not results in Europe that people have been questioning. Let's start see that in the league from now on without petty excuses. They've shown they can do it so No more false starts. Let's see how they perform against St Js, Killie and Rossco.


4.) 29 Nov 2024 08:14:00
you are right kaiser it isn't the results in Europe that have been questioned. it has been the players, the manager, the formation and the tactics. win a game and we are world beaters to some. there will be more false starts I think but enjoy the wins when they come.


 

 

12 Oct 2024 09:46:30
The Sun ran a story on an interview with Koppen yesterday where he discusses board meeting to discuss transfer strategy. Quote in it is: "we have identified the positions that we are weak in, understaffed or need more quality. We know that and it is now about talking about the budgets we can spend in the market and preparing for that window. "
hopefully a further rejig and strengthening of the squad.

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1.) 12 Oct 2024 12:54:53
Maybe he`s been roped in to help find a Chairman, CEO, Academy Director and Director of Football operations. At least he`ll not need to find a transfer fee and the wages should be attractive.


2.) 12 Oct 2024 13:36:40
Think he has enough on his plate finding players we need for the budget we have.
also unless we take someone out of work or contract then there more than likely will be compensation to pay. If they aren't in work then some would argue they aren't good enough for Rangers.


3.) 12 Oct 2024 20:43:33
wsl - unforunately unless any of them are unemployed then there is a feww, might not be called a transfer fee but compensation is usually payable and can often be more than transfer fees.


4.) 13 Oct 2024 12:54:06
Jeezo, it was a joke based on the quoted statement "we have identified the positions we are weak in, understaffed, or need more quality" a statement that is currently true of the boardroom and could have come from John Gilligan and been just as relevant.

On a serious note, I don`t expect there to be much money if any for new players in January, I`ve heard all this before but when it comes to it, it won`t be there. If we didn`t have money in the summer, where are we getting it from 6 months later? One out and one in won`t help us as there is nobody left to sell that anyone else wants.


5.) 13 Oct 2024 18:38:40
wsl he doesn't say there is a lot of money he says they were 'talking about the budgets they can spend" so I assume there will be some otherwise why have the interview at all. we did seem to be looking at players then for certain positions, a number 6 being one of them, so there did seem to be money there; Jordan just didn't want to come as an example.

6 month later we have cash from monthly payment STs, gate money. Europa League payments etc. He does seem to say there will be a turnaround in players as well. who knows but not sure why we have a director of recruitment if there isn't some money to work with.


 

 

10 Oct 2024 19:04:32
hi all. in case you aren't aware all Scotland's nations league matches are on the viaplay channel on Youtube and seem to be free to air. not on anywhere else I don't think. looked and Croatia game on Saturday is listed.

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1.) 11 Oct 2024 09:31:38
On the nations league note, what about the mighty Greece last night?


2.) 11 Oct 2024 10:01:23
I know but Greece (grease) was a tie which England were going to slip up in. Where's any coat.


3.) 11 Oct 2024 10:26:20
That's bad Angus, and that's me saying it???.


4.) 11 Oct 2024 11:12:39
Fork Greece done me a bad turn last night mate, had Bellingham anytime, Rice booked, over 4.5 cards combined, both teams to score, England win 55/ 1,could times that price with at least 6 if I picked a Greece win.


5.) 11 Oct 2024 11:54:20
Fork that is the highest accolade one of my jokes can ever hope to achieve.


6.) 11 Oct 2024 12:23:12
Hard luck Star could've been more too bud? Hallowed company Angus??.


7.) 11 Oct 2024 12:51:38
The game last night just showed the difference between a good coach and a good manager. Carsley didn`t have the bottle to decide which of his "superstar" attackers to leave out, so picked them all and they were a mess and got picked apart by a team who were well organised and disciplined . It could have been 5-1 to Greece and England couldn`t have complained . Southgate got slated by experts and pundits for leaving out players but nobody ever answered who do you want dropped to accomodate them . In the Euros he played Saka, Bellingham and Foden but the call was for Palmer and Gordon and where was Grealish and Maddison. Southgate knew whoever he picked would be questioned but he knew he had to fit them into a system and have cover deeper in midfield. That team last night wouldn`t even have got to the Euros, never mind the final.


8.) 11 Oct 2024 14:07:43
Thought the attitude of Greece was great, they wanted it more. ??.


9.) 11 Oct 2024 17:14:12
Mystar if you didn’t put engine to win that would have still been a good price.


10.) 11 Oct 2024 18:34:16
**england.


11.) 11 Oct 2024 19:22:03
storm he had a better chance of winning if he put engine on so your original post wasnt wrong.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2024 20:17:21
I never knowingly lie Ger. If I had any feelings i'd be hurt. btw not won yet I've only nominated you ?. You are up against SWS I believe (okay that was a lie)

Cuillin not sure. I just googled if you got an award for emojis and was surprised you did.

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11 Dec 2024 18:54:42
is it whisky then?

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11 Dec 2024 18:54:14
Get 88 I think I am going to put you forward for a shorty award, which actually exists and is an award for the most effective use of emojis in social media. I am no sure about the aubergine but let us see if you win ?.

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10 Dec 2024 18:37:16
I can't find anything on line of substance but.
John you are being described on Follow follow as the oracle of Rangers rumours; fame at last ?.

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10 Dec 2024 18:34:03
zikos if it were that easy then no professional clubs academy would have to release tens of players every year. they make a decision and it often is the wrong one. if you want examples of stars who have been released then look at Jamie Vardy, Harry Kane, Declan Rice, Andy Robertson, Frank Ribery and Lewis Ferguson. the last was released by us and I don't think we have a good record of bringing players through. it might be why we are looking at revamping it and getting rid of a lot of who we have.

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11 Dec 2024 20:22:30
storm innocent possibly in that he is too self centred to even realise he could be saying something wrong but can't disagree and as Verdant says it isn't his first offence.

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11 Dec 2024 20:21:10
My star hopefully those two days are Saturday and Sunday.

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11 Dec 2024 20:20:32
no problem deecee and only time will tell, which is half the fun and is what it is all about. sorry when I reread my posts can seem a little snarky and they aren't meant to be, even my jokes are like that. I need to learn the art of emojis better I think to get it right?.

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11 Dec 2024 19:12:27
EHL don't have an inner knowledge of this like you but I agree. If you went into work and didn't do what was asked of you then your manager would be unhappy and if like in football they could transfer you they would. That isn't being hard done by. The social media is a side show of this and isn't relevant really. If he had done what was expected then the manager and club could live with that. he wants to go onto a pitch and do what he wants. he might have been best in squad on his day, pity those days all too often were a Tuesday when we played on the Saturday.

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11 Dec 2024 19:06:13
I stand by what I say deecee. I agree every manager is on a limited time in their role but you thinking they will be got rid of if they don't win 2 or 3 games is nonsensical; but you are entitled to your opinion, which is all you are saying is (sorry) . Personally I think both will have a bit of leeway, PC due to the rebuild and Spurs as even Conte and Mourinho have failed; who else will they get. that is unless you are levy or Stewart that is then you have inside knowledge.

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