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11 Sep 2015 09:48:51
Sure some of you will remember the goals, the cheeky chappy and some of you will remember his dire management, personally that would make it a 1-1 draw at the moment but if any of you choose to rewrite history and gloss over this side to McCoist then you are doing your club a huge disservice.
October 21 2011 on Craig Whyte. "It's great, it's smashing, me and Craig have a great working relationship."
December 21 2012 on Charles Green. "Charles is forthright and opinionated. I'd rather have him that way. The difference between Charles and the man who was in charge before him is like night and day."
March 8 2013 The day after Green said it was the worst Rangers team ever. "He was 100% right in what he was saying. He was just trying to give everybody a realistic idea of where we are at the moment and he was spot on."
A month later Green talked of his little P*** friend and Ally said this on Apri 7 2013. "I'm not sure how many titles Charles has won in his career but I've been very fortunate to win 14 at our football club." It took him 30 days to finally back his squad and only after Green's big mouth had got him in trouble.
And then this beauty came along, as staggering an indictment of his love of money and self-preservation as you will find. May 4 2013 when asked about the huge amount of cash Rangers have spent on the squad. "If I'm going to be totally selfish about it I would have to spend it to get out of the division and keep me Kenny McDowall, Ian Durrant and the rest of the staff in a job." Wow, just wow.
But it didn't stop there, he had further executives to endorse. Of Craig Mather he said on August 7 2013 "The chief executive and the manager is arguably the biggest working relationship in the club and it is safe to say and see that we are getting on absolutely fine."
Then some contradictory sound bytes followed.
November 23 2013 "It would be suicidal for me to vote against the board."
December 14 2013 "I don't know how I'm going to vote."
December 16 2013 "I'm giving my voting rights to the fans as I promised to do when I got them." But presumably forgot about two days ago eh?
So there you have it a contradictory, self preserver who only moved when the current was already in his favour and a guy who backed spiv after spiv after spiv if the price was right, be it penny shares or a whopping amount of cash to spend on his squad that would help keep him in a job, his words not mine by the way.
1.) 11 Sep 2015 13:26:17
Gaz1 it never ceases to amaze me just how much time and effort you dedicate to our great club.
Sure there are guys on here who welcome your opinions less than a melanoma, I however quite enjoy your wee digs as it serves as a continual reminder that it is in fact ALL ABOUT THE RANGERS!
2.) 11 Sep 2015 11:51:22
The teams playing well?
3.) 11 Sep 2015 17:19:16
Much as it pains me to agree with one of the Rangers OCD patients.
Gaz 1 is 100% accurate and correct in his analysis of Judas and I would add the classic he didn't read his contract sh*te was one that really got my back up, insulting and patronising in one short comment/lie.
Also it never gets much airplay but his petulant child outing of the 3 Judges wax the most ignorant and frankly dangerous thing a person could ever do in those circumstances. Factions, thankfully very small and disappearing ones, but yes factions of our support send explosive devices to Lennon and 2 other Celtic connected media people. These people are dangerous and to publicly out these 3 Judges was for me personally a disgrace for a Rangers manager shameful
Thank god for King and Warburton Rangers in safe professional hands at long last.
4.) 11 Sep 2015 19:43:57
Like I said yesterday Gazza, you were all over a Celtic thread like a rash, I don't expect clarity or sense from you, just consistency please.
I was pondering whether to mention the outing of the 3 judges KT as it never actually impacted Rangers, he also kicked up hell about Hearts not getting fined £100,000 when they went into administration only to find out that is was Rangers lawyer who actually suggested it. He had his moments in the past three years that's for sure but while there are still three monkeys imitating, unquestioning followers like Coldo I'd say his reputation shall remain intact.
5.) 11 Sep 2015 21:00:15
Gaz1 like I said replying to a post containing the word Celtic doesn't mean I'm fixated with them. I know it's hard for you but do try and keep up!
Also while we are on the subject of "consistency "didn't you tell us all recently you had little time for Rangers? Evidently that ain't true as lately you're in serious danger of making Big Wull look like a bit part player on here.
6.) 11 Sep 2015 22:08:28
I didn't see your reply, apologies. How would it be hard for me to keep up? Am I not FIXATED by this place? More contradiction Gazza, it sounded a good wee line at the time no doubt but alas it fell on it's arse.
Gazza I have been posting in here for nearly 4 years, okay. Unless you are obsessed to the extreme with me I would be surprised if you know if I am posting more, less or the same than at any time during those years. Do you know? Thought not. For what it is worth I'd say I am posting less.
I was actually wondering how this post would be received some of it would see it factually, as he uttered every word I quoted but I also knew there would be those who no matter how accurate a criticism is, how precise in its detail a point was that would instantly jump on the poster because it criticised anything to do with the mighty Rangers, facts, relevance, detail, truth, who gives one flump eh Gazza?
Green, Whyte et al loved folk like you, the never doubting plankton feeders they can dupe with any old crap but god forbid a hint of accuracy coming from a Celtic perspective. That's to be ridiculed or ignored by personal attack from moment one, good for you Gazza, you lived up to their expectations one more time.
I don't have a lot of time for Rangers but I have a lot of time for correcting history rewriting people, try and appreciate that they are not mutually exclusive. If you fail to, lie down for a while.
7.) 12 Sep 2015 08:16:40
Gaz1 a predictable and repetitive reply as usual. You will ramble on with the same boring criticisms our club and its fans but in typical ceptic fashion you reject the same when you get some back.
It was a perfectly valid point, you are fixated so clearly the line never fell on its arse! Proof if any be needed ( and its not because people know fine exactly what you are) comes from your own admission of posting on here for four years. FOUR YEARS! ffs.
I wouldn't waste 5 minutes on your mobs site due to the undiluted bile that's on there relating to us. I believe they have a whole section dedicated to Rangers, says it all realy.
Like I say I quite enjoy your wee outbursts as it highlights the depth of ill feeling you have toward this club. But so you know gaz, so we are crystal here, the real fans on here are well aware of our failings both past and present. We know ok! We get it. So realy there's no need for a "Celtic perspective" no matter how factually correct you think you are. You then hilariously accuse others of personal attack because you're only intension is to lead us to the truth? Now be honest gaz isn't the real reason you come on, to attack, attack, and attack again ? To put up credible argument you must be able to accept your own failings and in you're case gaz there are plenty.
Also for the record, you're own bottom feeders (no doubt you were among them) tolerated many more years in the wilderness under the whites, Kelly's and the grants than we ever did blindly following celic while they were busy filling their pockets at the same time. Glass houses son, glass houses.
8.) 12 Sep 2015 08:43:29
It's seem strange that you say you enjoy them, if so why the lengthy unimaginative 20 line moanfest about them? Make your mind up do you like them or not.
Meantime why do you never engage in what I say? Not once have you debated or disputed a point. "Factually correct you think you are" name once you've debated with me and proved otherwise? Till then if all you are going to do is moan, make nonsense psycho babble and then, strangely, say you enjoy it when I write then don't bother okay because you will not be getting engaged with an answer. Gazza you are a one trick pony, moan but never analyse, accuse but never debate, point but never contribute, saw tons of you, wag all day but actually say nothing.
9.) 12 Sep 2015 14:40:22
Nonsense Psycho babble? Get a grip gaz for gods sake. The reason I don't get engaged as you call it is because there is no point.
Someone like you who feels the need to regularly vent your feelings on a rivals site is never going to change. I mean comments like that " saw tons of you" you're no better than the moronic hate element among you coming away with that crap.
Anyway forgetting all that simply answer the question. Why are you on here gaz? Easy enough question
14 Aug 2015 11:17:23
For what it's worth here's my opinion on it. Do Celtic need Scott Allan? Right now, no. But Mulgrew and Brown aren't getting any younger and both had lengthy injuries last season so a bit of help in there won't hurt, more so if Deila does use Mulgrew as a auxiliary left back. For all some of you are quoting Johansen, I don't think it is his natural role, he is better further up the field, so in essence Celtic have three defensive midfielders as we speak, Brown, Mulgrew who is a utility player anyway and Bitton, help maybe is required given the number of games being played this season. We have a guaranteed minimum of 52 games even if we lose every cup game from this point on. Given the outlay can a profit be made on the transfer? The answer is obviously yes.
Now that doesn't answer everything. Is it mischief? Possibly. A bit of muscle flexing, highlighting rumoured lack of cash or indeed promises from King, sure and like Rangers bid just before the cup game (which you will recall I had no problem with) it is gamesmanship. BOTH clubs have therefore done it regards this whole transfer.
Now in the big scale of things it is up to you guys how you react here to the player should Celtic sign him. I don't think it is in the Mo Johnston, Luis Figo and Sol Campbell category by any stretch and Kenny Miller is prove that the switch can be made with some respect, he tried for every jersey he wore Miller and every fan appreciated that. Given Rangers policy of decades ago needless to say there are far more anecdotal stories of Rangers fans playing for Celtic Dalglish, McGrain and Deans to name three and presumably somebody wasn't towing the family line when Colin and Tom McAdam played for opposing clubs but it happens and despite what his book said it turned out Mo Johnston didn't need the keys to Stirling Castle before signing for Rangers. It happens, we deal with it. For what it is worth it reflects the Dariusz Adamczuk transfer where Celtic were all over him and Rangers nipped in with more cash to spend.
As for it's likelihood of happening, and I thought this last night before it was mentioned again today in the papers. There is NO WAY Celtic would have approached this on a "mibbe". I'm sure they wanted a cast iron guarantee that if approached and offered a fair income he would sign. Seemingly this was done via a third party so while the ball is still in Allan's half of the court I'm sure he made positive noises to Celtic's advances or else none of us would have heard a thing about it. Again it is up to you guys how you deal with that information in the future. I said before maybe a bigger bid not so close to the cup game might have yielded you a different outcome, chances are we will never know now.
1.) 14 Aug 2015 11:46:00
But allan is an attacking midfielder.
2.) 14 Aug 2015 11:52:25
Interesting post gaz.lets get one thing straight right away.im gutted he has turned us down as I rate the boy.however I think it is a bad career move for him as I think he will struggle to get into the Celtic midfield.maybe a first pick in a year or two but defo not right now.i have no ill feeling towards him or Celtic as he has to get the right deal for his family.its just a bit strange that he handed in a transfer request saying he wanted to move to rangers then does a complete u turn.
3.) 14 Aug 2015 12:05:18
Cee anything I've read of him describes him as a defensive midfielder, for me that's why it made more sense, we have a glut of attacking mids.
He's not the first of last to do it Bigcol, the lure of European games etc, of course they will come again for Rangers but we are talking footballers, short career, everything is pretty immediate for them. I think if one maxim holds true of footballers its "If you get the chance grab it."
4.) 14 Aug 2015 12:37:42
Agree gaz.he will never know unless he goes.i wish no ill of him.just disappointed.only time will tell whether it was a good or bad move for him.i just hope no threats are made against the boy like he got off hibs fans.
5.) 14 Aug 2015 12:50:45
That's what I don't understand, he's not as good as Armstrong or commons or johansen.
6.) 14 Aug 2015 13:23:51
But it's the number of games Cee. 52 as a bare minimum. If Deila has showed us one thing with McGregor scoring a few early goals last season and obviously his time with Martin Odegaard, you play well and take your chance, you'll get the games. If the league is going well and still competing in cups then rest some of the guys you mentioned, bring in Allan and the like. Also remember that if the deal is as mentioned then essentially it is two out and one in and while neither player(McGeoch and Henderson) are starters, they have contributed in 37 competitive games the past few seasons so those appearances need covered right away.
29 Jul 2015 09:39:19
There is some remarkable ignorance or faux outrage getting printed in here regards Scott Allan. You would honestly think Rangers had never made a transfer before or had never done it for money at least. I appreciate you haven't done it much lately but come on. Okay where to start.
gfella - "if SA has submitted a transfer request and Hibs say no what happens then?" Well this is where the UN table a motion gfella, parliament scolds Hibs mercilessly and Jerry Dammers writes a song called Free Scotty Allan. Aung Suu Kyi says she and the people of Myanmar will not be truly free till Scott Allan signs for the Gers. Get a grip man!
Alaska "been lied to by his manager" Oh lying managers, on just how many occasions, even down to not reading contracts and making bogus claims of trusting people did McCoist lie to you guys in the past few seasons? "Getting stick off social media." Did you hear some of the abuse McCoist, the board and even Ian Black got from Rangers fans, did it change one thing? Erm no.
kfraser "the bid from us should have been anticipated" What makes you think it wasn't? The fact that it didn't go your way? Could it possibly be they did anticipate it and had decided to say No regardless? Or even no in an attempt to get more cash. Did that even remotely cross your mind?
kfraser then calls it a debacle which is correct but it is a debacle of Rangers making arguably, couldn't this bid have been made a few weeks ago rather than days before a game between the clubs? Which was always going to make it more emotive, now I actually don't mind it as such, it was gamesmanship and given the score, ultimately it worked but do any of you think it improved relations between the clubs? Because I don't.
Had he got a bad injury at the weekend who was paying his wages till healed, that's right Hibs, so they are well within their rights doing what they want because he is their player.
As for some of you getting your knickers in a twist about a player wanting to leave a club and not being allowed to. In what became his last season Brian Laudrup was already making noises about leaving, David Murray with typical hubris, was convinced he could talk him round rather than sell him with a season of his contract left. It failed and he said afterwards he would never do it again. Every club has had players who would rather be elsewhere, did Jelavic beg to be chained to Ibrox rather than go? Now I appreciate he has handed in a transfer request and is a Rangers fan but so what, a contract is a contract, it protects both parties and if this is how Hibs choose to do business after a late, mischievous bid by Rangers last week, then suck it up and stop acting like spoiled brats, faux outraged at everything because Rangers aren't getting their way against a smaller Scottish team boo f***ing hoo!
It is the nature of the game or have some of you forgot that? The whole footballing world does not revolve around what Rangers want though I get the impression this might come as a shock to some of you.
1.) 29 Jul 2015 10:34:25
Gaz I can't disagree with what you have said.
Unfortunatley it looks like SA is caught in some tugg of war between the two clubs and the media are loving it. Sells papers they are under the impression nobody wants to read about sport unless its scandalious.
Rangers should have put a decent offer at the start not saying it would have changed hibs minds but it may not have got their backs up.
2.) 29 Jul 2015 11:02:33
Im confused as to what rangers have actually done wrong. They have placed 2 bids for a player that is out of contract at the end of the season and clearly wants to come to ibrox. The manager hasn't been commenting on this saying he wants to be respectful of other clubs players. The rangers board haven't said anything to the media and they have placed the bids through the correct channels. If we get alan great if not then we will get him at the end of the season so I have no idea what your post is actually trying to achieve
3.) 29 Jul 2015 11:30:24
As per Gaz making a mountain out of a mole hill. It's ok, you are allowed to vent your frustrations. Gfella asks a normal question in relation to Scott Allan and hibs ,yet you manage to bring Aung Suu Kyi into the equation? odd response.
4.) 29 Jul 2015 11:58:16
It's a normal question Nippon? Has he never seen a transfer dispute before, is he five? What happens is Rangers either stop, raise the bid and at the other end Hibs still say no or accept it, he can see the whole gambit of transactions at any car boot sale if he requires further "bartering" info. If the PFA get involved then rip up every contract on the planet, if Allan downs tools then that is his decision to make. That aside it is a case of supply and demand like every financial tussle ever.
A lot of the time it is posturing, I remember clearly Alex Ferguson saying "We will never sell Ronaldo to THAT club." Not even Real or Madrid, THAT club. Where did he end up? Now surely gfella didn't need any advice on will the bidding goes up or that's it, or did he really think "we're Rangers we must have some other trick up our sleeve that no other transfer in history has adopted", trust me Nippon the question was stranger than my response.
Rossw they haven't done anything wrong to my mind, was gamesmanship, nothing more nothing less, not an ideal time for it from Hibs perspective obviously, so you reap what you sow, Hibs in turn are being equally combative. Done three weeks ago he might have been a Rangers sub last weekend, who knows.
What my post is trying to achieve is open some of your eyes to the Hibs perspective, turn all this 180 degrees, they are the bigger club, want your best player, come in with a derogatory initial bid days before a cup game, keenest rivals for promotion etc etc etc, are you surprised how they have reacted? Of course bloody not, so why are most folk in here going ape sh*t about it, why won't they let him go, take the money, it's a profit, the abuse is terrible, their manager lied to him, blah, blah, blah. HE'S THEIR PLAYER THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT!
5.) 29 Jul 2015 10:36:27
The main point is hibs could have just never released that Rangers had made a bid and none of this would ever have happened and there's a difference to what's being said to SA on twitter it's beyond sick. It's always amazing how anything Rangers do is wrong even trying to transfer a player I thought that's what football was all about concentrate on other teams buying Dundee utd's best players for a song and not and ripple it's amazing.I think the word hypocrite springs to mind.
6.) 29 Jul 2015 11:05:02
That leech was better than a swig of Night Nurse.
7.) 29 Jul 2015 12:48:00
I see Gaz has been on the adhesive substances early. Strange post from an oddball. Can us Gers fans start talking about what the team should be against Peterhead on Sunday and then look forward to the St. Mirren game after that - with our without Scott Allan.
My take on Sunday's rout was that the team looked really, really good second half. Tavernier looks a class act and Wallace was back to his old self again. I'd still like to see Murdoch back in the middle of the park alongside Halliday and Law and if Kenny Miller continues in this scoring vein he could be our super sub this season. 14/1 for the Scottish Cup might be a tempting bet!
8.) 29 Jul 2015 13:23:16
DOIGER have a look at my last two opening threads in the finance page if your looking for a different type of clarity from me. Always Blue the point is had Dundee United knocked us back indefinitely I'd have said so what, move on. Celtic have had a ton of speculated transfers fall through or declined, not once have I held it against the player or club involved. The only time I did get mad was in one that did go through where Villa and John Gregory in particular made it awkward for Alan Thompson to sign, even going to the bitchy levels of playing him in an Inter-Toto game to effectively cup-tie him for Europe, that aside the owning club is within their rights to do whatever they want. So far Hibs have said no, stop bleating and deal with it.
9.) 29 Jul 2015 15:01:32
I don't bleat that's Aberdeen fans your thinking of.If we get him now great if next season great we can't lose I just find it amazing the interest our club generates amongst other fans.Why not tell us why you feel so morally offended by it.
10.) 29 Jul 2015 16:31:59
Did you read the first post always blue, it's the contradictory lengths you go to, a manager lied, first in history - maybe not, player is unhappy - first in history - no. So why the big deal, not you specifically, across the board, as I said earlier maybe try putting yourselves in Hibs fans/board shoes and then seeing if you see their actions as so unreasonable, a bit of context in other words.
As for the interest you generate, at the weekend I hadn't been on for a few days, Rangers get a good result and without a single Celtic fan anywhere near any current thread Mannering sees fit to mention myself, Fab1 and DH88, maybe it's all about the Celtic in all reality, would the suggestion that you are obsessed with us cause offense? :)
11.) 29 Jul 2015 17:09:12
Gaz if I was obsessed by celtic I would probably be on the celtic banter page and to wish someone and their family dead is way beyond being upset.Hibs fans do have the right to want to keep their best players just as other teams have the right to buy them.I think this whole thing is ridiculous and people are getting carried away as I said if we get him great if not his are stuck with a unhappy player for a year what's the point.
12.) 29 Jul 2015 18:42:08
Always blue you can't get best wishes for Ricksen or Jardine posted here without some nugget disagreeing, there are Rangers sites where the things said of Tommy Burns, Neil Lennon and even Jinky would make you blush. Every club has their idiots and I mean every club, some of the terms used for Ally in recent times are up there with anything said of Scott Allan lately I'd imagine.
As for your question it doesn't matter what you or I think the point is. A former Ger and and former Hibs manager (Alex Miller) reckons selling to Rangers would cost them 5,000 seats a week, I think he's talking rubbish but it's just another perspective, chance of winning league diminished plus some loss in fans, lack of ambition it shows plus boost to Rangers, you could convince me that's worth more than £250,000 if I'm Hibs, that's for sure.
As for obsessed, it's a tired word, you are an amusement that's all but twice since Saturday I've been mentioned in here by name on threads I was nowhere near, I hadn't even said a word in days last week and on the night of the 6-2 game, surely a day for you all to be happy, I get mentioned, maybe the obsession lies elsewhere Always Blue.
13.) 30 Jul 2015 12:41:09
Keep telling yourself that Gaz!
25 Jun 2015 10:44:37
There are a couple of wee myths creeping in and getting repeated, gleefully by folk. I think it is time for a wee bit of myth debunking, BIGWULL pay careful attention please, you've said it twice, I'll save you from looking foolish a third time.
Celtic's Co-op debt. From Oct 2009 till April 2019 Celtic have a loan of £16.69m. This is repayable quarterly which works out at £439, 210 repaid every 3 months. As of August 2013 the debt was less than £10m, we have had 22 months since then or 7 more repayments, wiping another £3m off that debt. So the debt is now under £7m and it repayable by April 2019. In truth I am not losing sleep over this BIGWULL and similarly I don't think you should be salivating at the prospect of the administrators crashing through the doors any time soon. Okay so can we finally kill that one off?
Celtic's crap season in Europe last season. Sure losing twice after a reprieve was embarrassing that I don't deny and of course for the first year in three lost out on Champions League money. Not great, I totally agree. Guess what though, in the CL 2013/2014 UEFA pts gained 6.65, last season in the EL, knocked out twice in qualifiers etc etc, UEFA pts gained 7.8. It's a funny old game eh? I don't dispute the financial loss but ultimately Celtic's European coefficient went up last year compared to the CL qualifying season before. This is also the last season our coefficient uses the paltry 2.22 pts gained in 2010/2011. Any improvement on that and again our coefficient improves, we currently have 1.0 in the bank this year but qualification will be much harder this year, the quality of the teams from 6-10th seeds are very strong.
By comparison Rangers have won 1 of their last 22 European fixtures, a record St Johnstone doubled inside 8 days several years back and for the record, have I look, I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it myself, Rangers as of next season will be using Scotland's coefficient as their rating, in other words they will be as quoted in Europe as Alloa or Dalbeattie Star should they win the Scottish Cup. So it seems even our "rotten years in Europe" leave us pretty much smelling of roses by comparison.
So in a nutshell our finances seem pretty solid and in Europe every Scottish team's defeat dictates Rangers seeding for perhaps the next two seasons, still wanting the sheep gubbed right away?
{Ed001's Note - can I just ask a question? You said another £3m had been wiped off the debt, but you failed to take into account any interest, so is it an interest free loan? Otherwise you will not have wiped that much off the debt, you will have wiped off that much -any interest owing.}
1.) 25 Jun 2015 11:10:41
i never said your finances were crap f u go back to my post I was merely pointing out that u had debt I also said u were trading ok but another with no c l money and its a different picture van dik will be sold and that will keep the club in profit
2.) 25 Jun 2015 11:58:44
Ed the payback was my own calculation of the loan ie 114 months divided into the debt so the £439k was a estimate. Interest wise, I don't know, may well be they pay £500k a time, bear in mind some Rangers fans were calling it close to state aid and soft loans so it would hardly be massive I would presume.
Fair enough BIGWULL, do you accept that repaying £7m or so in the next 4 years is very much affordable as things stand? I think either way Van Dijk will be gone after the qualifiers, we get in he gets sold and it's easier to get a replacement albeit you have less than a week to do so, we go out, he's the financial buffer zone this year no question. And I have great sympathy in your £40k loss, it's crap that fans lose out completely while investors like King still get their 6 or 7p in the pound. Maybe not a great comfort even then but it just seems unfair you don't get the same protection.
{Ed001's Note - ok cheers.}
3.) 25 Jun 2015 13:00:42
Indeed it is a 'funny old game' Gaz. It's as funny as it is fickle.
20 years ago, just as your team were recovering from your own financial crisis , Rangers were celebrating yet another league championship. Unfortunately we lost to Aberdeen in the league cup semis after putting yourselves out in the quarters. No worries we lifted the Scottish cup humping hearts 5-1, laudrup scored as he did against a certain team the round before.
15 years ago, Rangers were crowned champs again ,we also managed a comfortable win over ' the sheep' in the Scottish cup. Europe that year was a mixed Bag but by no means humiliating - both Parma and PSV were well beaten and if I can remember correctly it was a dubious free kick which led to Munichs single goal. No need to cry over spilt milk.
10 years ago was not so pretty. The only positive was European footy after Xmas. This post is to show how volatile footy can be.
A short 5 years later and Rangers ,under Walter , are yet again top of the league. Our record in Europe was poor but not terrible considering the opposition- many draws and a few single goal defeats sandwiching a Valencia doing. Domestically an old firm league cup final was settled by Jellyfish ,giving us the double( I will hide the fact that Celtic put us out in the replay of 5th roundSC haha ;)
Anyways apologies for the daft history lesson, though I think it is important to take the stick out whichever orifice you have it in Gaz. The majority of us know that we are terrible and are bored of your echoes. Who knows what the next 5 years will bring?
4.) 25 Jun 2015 14:51:54
Gaz wer are you getting the loan figure from from am sure it was reported back in 2013 that the loan was over 20m with interest set at 1.65%
5.) 25 Jun 2015 15:21:01
Thebear82, yes sorry I was focusing on the repayable part regards 2019, in total including a long term loan there was £21 but the £16.69m needs repaying come 2019 at worst. Cheers for the 1.65% I didn't know that.
Nippon of course football is full of swings and roundabouts and I have no doubt that it will all change again at some point however I started by pointing out that Celtic didn't actually, on the face of it, have that bad a season in Europe at all and indeed as you alluded to in your own post "the only positive was euro football after xmas" a box we ticked ourselves last year. As for getting "bored of my echoes" why the hell did you just spend 18 lines worth of writing on it?
6.) 25 Jun 2015 15:25:02
And by the way Nippon that was good history not daft, no need to apologise, well remembered Nippon, good stuff. :)
7.) 25 Jun 2015 15:28:38
See if we are all honest who cares about the debt celticfootballclub as a buisness and a sports brand make this debt very very managable and unless peter lawel has been doing a david murray and not showing us the overpriced overpaid players he's been buying the clubs finances will b fine so let's all concentrate on the important things in life my teams better than your team ;) hail hail
8.) 25 Jun 2015 16:41:06
Haha very true Shandybhoy I agree!
However my team is more successful than yours ;)
BOOM!
9.) 25 Jun 2015 18:26:16
Superb nippon mate, as they say touche,game set and match to yourself.
06 May 2015 11:37:34
I was fully behind Rangers saying they wanted to let season ticket holders into the play-offs for free. The precedent had been set by Hibs the year before etc etc.
But as ever the devil is in the detail and I don't know how many of you are fully aware of why it was different for Hibs last year.
As far as I can see the play-offs for the SPL were first confirmed on May 7th 2013. Hibs had been selling season tickets for the next season from that March. Now I agree optimistically this may impact 2,000 folk or so at best but nonetheless these people bought a season ticket under one understanding and then events moved on from that standpoint. That is not the case this year, Rangers, Hibs, QOS and even Motherwell or Ross County all knew how this season's end would play out long before season tickets went on sale.
So this isn't anti Rangers, one rule for Hibs another for yourselves, the reality is some Hibs fans had a good shout about the goalposts being moved, that isn't the case here. Technically you haven't got a leg to stand on and moaning about it without an understanding of the reasons behind it is just plain daft.
1.) 06 May 2015 12:05:08
I agree matem hence why I am not complaining
2.) 06 May 2015 13:24:22
Changed my mind to some extent on this one myself as the cases of Rangers this time round does differ significantly from Hibs last year.
The time who complain was long before now although I still think Doncaster and co are robbing all the clubs by taking fifty percent of the gate money.
3.) 06 May 2015 13:33:51
I can understand why rangers want to let fans in after a torrid season. As a reward and to get full houses for the home games.
If you don't ask you don't get
4.) 06 May 2015 13:52:51
But L3mst3r the cash gets divided up between all the clubs, rules are rules and it is not any other club's fault that Rangers have underachieved and therefore the fans merit a freebie or whatever. Reduce season tickets/game prices next season if they want to offer an apology for this season's efforts. As far as I'm concerned this could have been put to bed long before now and why are board pursuing it, to get you on board maybe? Good board - bad authority figures, hasn't that been the standard nonsense of the past few years? Just saying.
5.) 06 May 2015 18:02:29
I always try and look at things from the view of the other party and I absolutely guarantee that if the roles were reversed and Celtic were in our shoes in the same situation, the sound of squealing coming from the East End would be deafening. Though considering Lawwell has both Doncaster and Regan in his pocket, the situation wouldn't even arise in the first place.
6.) 06 May 2015 19:40:47
gaz I completely agree it's good for the other clubs and Scottish football that this money goes to them. The board are looking at number one and trying to do their job by giving us the best chance to qualify. But to be honest, every single one of those club took their chance to kick us while we were down. I don't have an us vs them mentality and don't get me wrong I am for sharing the money and charging the tickets, but I just think nobody does Rangers football club or fans a favour, why play the sporting integrity and good for Scottish football card For every other club. We get zero back. So from me a big F U to all those clubs that hate us coming back, all those clubs that voted to put us in the third division, all those clubs that slated us publically and do enjoy the Rangers comeback :)
7.) 06 May 2015 20:02:58
L3 - couldn't have put it better myself. I agree 100%
8.) 07 May 2015 00:15:56
Sure L3 but you said after a torrid season and as a reward, why should Rangers paying their way on something they signed up to be impacted by the team being utter crap for the better part of 9 months? Is that anyone else's fault? And as I said earlier why not have it impacting Rangers income sources next season when it's their own money and not a collectives? I've no problem with you guys being rewarded for your support this season, god knows it's merited but it should be done with Rangers cash not league cash. And as for that thing they signed up for, let's face it this season would be an unmitigated disaster without the play-offs, play-offs that evidently came at a price. A price that Rangers are now trying (with no logic) to welch out of paying. This just might be why the old "no one likes us" has some truth. Thing is, by the endless bleating I can see some of you really do care. :)
As for Noddy maybe Lawwell would complain, I don't know. I know I'd probably have been miffed till I furnished myself with the facts, then appreciated that it wasn't exactly in the same category as Hibs and you'd like to think at some point the Rangers board got well enough into the nuts and bolts of the story to appreciate the difference too. But then you think, hang on, a Rangers board getting the fans onside by making a few noises at the powers that be, no, that has never ever happened before. I'll save some of you the effort, that was sarcasm!
9.) 07 May 2015 07:32:20
Think the term is 'kick me when I'm down'. We can all afford to act high and mighty and spouting rules and metaphorically caning Rangers ' arse yet again. I just wonder how many more obstacles will be put in this clyb's way under the guise of 'sporting integrity'. I'm not saying we've not been mince this season and we have the Gid given right to go up. What I'm saying is why not give us the chance to reward long suffering fans the way Hibs were allowed to do last year without any undue hoo-haa. Wonder what the decision would have been had Rangers been in Hibs ' position last year? I think we all know that though eh Gaz?
10.) 07 May 2015 08:59:20
The point is Noddy YOU ARE NOT IN HIBS POSITION. So what you know (allegedly) doesn't really matter a damn, the situations are different, Hibs fans were already buying season tickets when the play-offs were announced, Rangers fans this season were not, everyone involved knew the structure, I dare say most of us didn't anticipate Rangers needing it, myself included. But just because they've been utter garbage doesn't mean everyone else gets a reduced amount to appease some of you. By all means reward it, reward it with Rangers finances not anyone else's. Is that so hard to accept? Even though the club signed up for it? It's remarkable, oh we've been crap, we want a chunk of the pie back, get real.
11.) 07 May 2015 12:22:21
Only saying if we'd been in Hibs position last year and made the same application as they did to allow season ticket holders into their play off match against Hamilton for free, it wouldn't have been sanctioned. They only bend over for certain clubs. Only making a point (I know I'm stealing your paranoid thunder) - there's one rule for some clubs etc etc
12.) 07 May 2015 14:03:46
That pesky word if. Man it gets in the way of so much. Because you can pretty much write any nonsense with it attached, as you just proved Noddy.
You don't know that, you can't prove it and what you've said isn't a point it's an opinion, a point is a fact, your nonsense isn't. IF only you knew the difference.
13.) 07 May 2015 16:57:50
If you want to split hairs overs facts and opinions then ok, ya got me! So if I had included 'in my opinion' it wouldn't have been nonsense?
Ok - in my opinion, roles reversed, Rangers would not have been allowed to let season ticket holders in for free last year - in my opinion.
14.) 07 May 2015 20:14:22
My only point on this was the money that was intended for most have us a kick when we were in a bad place. They have benefitted from our games and fans so in my bubble it evens out. Rules have been bent to accommodate other teams with regards to changing games etc but anytime we make a request it flatly gets rejected. True we agreed to it, we thought the proposal as a whole was acceptable maybe not every part.
I signed a contract at work last week, did I agree with every point - No. Have I broken some of the terms - Yes.
From a Rangers fan only point of view, do you think Rangers fans deserve a little back after the last 3 years? This was not just for this seasons bad performance but everything we have all been through and believe me sometimes it felt as if I was grieving with how much we all care for the club. It's not just a case of "we have had a shit season - let's take money from other clubs"
That isn't even the biggest reason they done it, look at the statement. They want more fans in to help the club through the playoffs. That is their job, to commercially look after Rangers best interests. Every club in Scotland looks after number 1. Why would the jeopardise our promotion for other clubs? We signed because we had too.
Anyways moot point because the board have played a blinder. Ibrox will be packed for the home game next Sunday and I look forward to seeing the blue sea of Ibrox with my fellow bears. Small victory against a blundering excuse for a footballing authority.
15.) 07 May 2015 20:38:02
L3 a Rangers board making the authorities out to be the bad guy while in reality actually not doing very much, hmmm ring a bell? You could argue that £5 is underselling it and by rights not in the club's best interests, but what does anyone else know compared to the financial geniuses that have been been Rangers board members pretty much ad nauseum lately. So an early PR gesture with the authorities as the villains and the club in essence losing cash, yeah I'd be getting worried round about now, for some reason the song blinded by the light just jumped into my head too. Enjoy. :)
16.) 07 May 2015 20:59:41
L3 I don't grudge you long suffering guys anything but look after the club's best commercial interests, this has been costed therefore? It's been worked out that say 40,000 @ £5 even 50,000 @ £5 is the top whack this can generate? £250k, no consideration for 30,000 @ £10m, 25,000 @ £15, anyone recall the price for the Scottish Cup and the attendance? Arguably less meaningful than this. It's a PR story to make the board look good the authorities bad and it makes Rangers bugger all cash, in other words it's no different from anything Whyte, Green etc etc etc have been doing for years.
17.) 08 May 2015 00:43:16
Gaz, I need to first make 2 points. 1) I don't think the Authorities are the bad guy here as 2) They are well within their rights and considering the money goes into the clubs rather than them they are in the right.
I also really don't think this is a PR stunt, the current board will not work in the media and would prefer to get the standards back to the level they were before. An effort to get fans onside? more likely.
Rangers only made the request, the request was rejected and they subsequently charged. It was the media that made out rangers were defying the SFA, refer to the last statement from Rangers.
Commercial interests for 1 a one off game in comparison to 1 season in the SPL? no brainer, give the team the best possible chance to make that happen is looking after commercial interests and at the same time showing the board are not there to sponge from the fans. They will finance the club, rest assured.This is the only motive for the board, to get promotion and give something to the fans (the board are also fans) whilst not breaking the rules. The board have shown a lot of respect to the SPFL and the SFA in their short tenure.
As much as you would love The current board to be the same as the previous, this is just not true. They are fans, ex board members and part of other groups to take control from the beginning.
20 Sep 2015 19:52:33
jamesreilly do you actually mean they lost another 5 games? And did you forget (or ignore) that they drew a further 6. So taking their Celtic games completely out of the equation they played 34, won 23, drew 6 lost 5. It's good but I think your "remarkable" is stretching it. Celtic including Aberdeen went 29-5-4, comparative goal differences Celtic +67 Aberdeen +24. It's sounding less remarkable by the minute to be honest.
19 Sep 2015 15:27:29
And as ever Gazza you just went off on one of your wee digs without the slightest consideration of my point, I won't be replying to you again till you actually debate things rather than offer pointless inaccurate assumptions.
19 Sep 2015 15:24:51
Why would I be doing that Gazza? Have you got one single reason for it or are you just typing inaccurate garbage as ever?
19 Sep 2015 14:09:59
I have called Whyte, Green etc spivs from the start, agreed? Wouldn't me celebrating a not guilty verdict mean I encourage spivs etc? So if their actions were illegal then good they deserve guilty. So ABH is correct, the rest of you just don't seem to have the brains to appreciate some of us are CONSISTENT in our criticism of these people. In other words from day one till right now, some of you on the other hand were a tad late jumping on the bandwagons, remember?
12 Sep 2015 08:43:29
It's seem strange that you say you enjoy them, if so why the lengthy unimaginative 20 line moanfest about them? Make your mind up do you like them or not.
Meantime why do you never engage in what I say? Not once have you debated or disputed a point. "Factually correct you think you are" name once you've debated with me and proved otherwise? Till then if all you are going to do is moan, make nonsense psycho babble and then, strangely, say you enjoy it when I write then don't bother okay because you will not be getting engaged with an answer. Gazza you are a one trick pony, moan but never analyse, accuse but never debate, point but never contribute, saw tons of you, wag all day but actually say nothing.