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03 Nov 2015 16:28:53
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Rangers edging closer to Administration according to some inside reports. more to come on this.
WTF is this about? sounds like a wind up to me.
1.) 03 Nov 2015 16:54:04
Did Dave king not issue a statement saying soft loans from the other board members would keep the club going?
im thinking they are trying to get as much info as possible to null and void all commitments. and all these stupid admin rumors and ashley wants king jailed is just ashley knowing time is up.
2.) 03 Nov 2015 22:39:03
Theblueman i'm with you on this one mate, there is no chance of a second admin.
3.) 03 Nov 2015 23:49:39
Am I correct in thinking if charles green is found guilty of fraud in the rangers takeover, then surely the sports direct contract along with the puma contract will be deemed null and void as it was green who done these deals with mike ashley?
that would then allow dave king to ditch sports direct and puma and would be free to negotiate a new deal with another merchandise partner along with securing a new kit manufacturer that will get the club a far greater income on shirt sales that would be far more beneficial to us.
4.) 04 Nov 2015 08:46:11
Its looking like ashley has started to play his last cards.
I bet whyte has opened a can of worms and green has blabbed aswell
king will keep schtum and on the right side until the last bit of wind from these crooks!
Everybody has/must keep faith as this still is a long road to recovery.
king and the board and the rest of the silent partners won't let rangers slip again and all the nonsense rumors. from the soap dodgers as they have nothing worth talking about.
Watp!
5.) 04 Nov 2015 08:27:12
I agree with warburtonthe15, and no chance of admin 2 despite timmy's prayers.
6.) 04 Nov 2015 08:40:42
King is out his depth with Ashley. Different league all together. Has Ashley had dealings with king in the past because this seems very very personal.
7.) 04 Nov 2015 16:30:29
Martybhoy I think you've got it the wrong way round, I think Ashley has more than met his match in Dave king, and Ashley knows it. it doesn't matter that Ashley has more money, after all it's not about wealth, it's about the laws of the land, and I think Ashley has broken a few. he knows it, we know it and after the court case Ashley will fold like a bad hand in poker. his latest threats are just that threats, let's get it into a court room let's see who has the best hand, until then all this guessing is causing no panic to us bears.
8.) 05 Nov 2015 08:58:45
Anybody who believes that Ashley has met his match in King is in for a very nasty surprise. Ashley could pull the plug on us at any moment he pleases by calling in his £5m loan. The new board have been in place for 7 months, if there was anything untoward about the SD contracts don't you think they'd have done something by now?
9.) 05 Nov 2015 12:29:02
A, how would we fold for 5mil?
B, he already tried to call in the loan, king chased him!
C, stop using the word "US" you don't fool anyone, felt maybe yourself?
10.) 05 Nov 2015 13:07:14
Ashley can't pull in the loan - it was negotiated in a previous administration to potentially gain control of trademarks and strengthen retail position - sure Ashley is a uber-wealthy, brutal businessman but if he held all the leverage would he (a) request Rangers shareholders to vote to repay the loan and (b) send undercover bailiffs to serve DK with breaking anti-gagging suit - NOPE this is not behavior of someone holding all the leverage - Board is right to delay share issue and fund short term via soft loans - all the current court cases need to run there course and then possibly a public offering - what will a public offering be anyway - it will be underwritten by T3B and DK - what's the difference.
11.) 05 Nov 2015 13:56:25
Iain - of course we have to repay the loan. The loan was agreed with RIFC regardless of who was on the board at the time. MA can go to court to get the monies owed to him and as we can't afford to repay him as we already require loans to complete the season we will be forced into administration. I do like the way you think that it was the board's decision to delay the share issue as if they had a choice. Tomtom - because you don't agree with me you reckon I'm not a fan - is that the case?
12.) 05 Nov 2015 18:58:42
ABHABH1, there is no date for said loan to be paid back, it's like lending your mate a score and telling him to pay you back when he can afford to, I often wonder how Ashley made his money, when he is thick enough to give out loans on the never never, very clever chap indeed, I don't think so.
13.) 05 Nov 2015 19:56:28
Billy are you serious? Check the conditions of the loan. Ashley holds all the cards. He is a very clever chap. Next week could be pivotal. If CG wins his claim on legal expenses I wouldn't be surprised if MA goes to court to ring fence the money he's owed.
14.) 05 Nov 2015 23:02:58
Abhabh1, we will find out soon enough eh, oh are you on the right club pages, none of your posts over the last couple of years have convinced me you are a bear, I think you kick with the other foot honestly.
15.) 06 Nov 2015 07:31:06
Editor - Why are there so many non-bears posting of this site?
Celtic continue to struggle in Europe - Dundee Utd reaping their reward for taking advantage of smaller clubs and selling on to Celtic etc.
Football ambition in Scotland is Zero - let just knock Rangers when they are down!
{Ed001's Note - what on earth has that to do with anything? This is not a Rangers fans only site, if you want that go to one, there are loads of those out there. This is part of a family of sites for all to use to talk about particular subjects, in this case Rangers.}
16.) 06 Nov 2015 08:09:40
Thanks Ed - made that crystal clear.
{Ed001's Note - no worries, I was trying to make it clear, we don't want to become like all the Rangers fans only sites (or any other one club sites for that matter). There are hundreds of them out there to choose from. This started from a site to discuss all clubs initially, and the mix of different fans is what made it interesting. Well at times anyway. Some times other fans can just be annoying, but a lot of the time it is good to get a different perspective on your own club.}
17.) 06 Nov 2015 07:24:01
Billy I'm assuming that because I don't blindly follow Dave King like you that you don't think I'm a fan. Excuse me for being a realist and seeing the absolute dire situation that we are in. But if it suits you to ignore all that and accuse anyone who disagrees with you of 'kicking with the other foot' (whatever that means) then by all means fire ahead.
18.) 06 Nov 2015 21:59:27
Abhabh1, how do you know the courts will not find green etc. guilty and that COULD rope Ashley and them all as illegal in there movement, i'm just puzzled as of, how you seem to think you know all about everything, kindly explain?
19.) 06 Nov 2015 23:41:08
Billy - I suppose that is a possibility. However there is no outcome of the case that is favourable for us.
20.) 07 Nov 2015 18:16:54
Ed - agree it's good to get other clubs fans perspectives. Problem is most of them are filled with petty vindictive wind up nonsense. But I suppose it's good to know that.
Sensible debate seems to be dead, shame as our game desperately needs it.
In terms of Ashley, I think our only hope is that his dealings with the club get drawn into the on going fraud case. Otherwise we are in a deep hole. Have we even handed in our 7 years notice yet?
It became personal when King got Ashley men kicked off the board. Ashley is ruthless and will be very unhappy at being (temporarily) out manoeuvred.
21.) 07 Nov 2015 16:10:49
Abhabh1 again I must ask, how do you know that the court case won't go in our favour big time, if the accused are found to have committed fraud (which I think is a cert) then every deed carried out could be deemed illegal, it would not be the club that was held to account, it would be the people that committed the fraud, they couldn't blame the club that's like the court jailing me for a crime my brother committed in another country, through association.
22.) 07 Nov 2015 21:42:39
Reading you lot on mike ashley 5 million loan. dave king has said he not paying it as in 1 lump sum. contract was agreed an all we have to do is pay agreed installments. all of this does need played out in court room but before it gets there i reckon ashley will say all deals off as long as dave king doesn't say anything about deals but hope king says no the courts will settle it so all can be played out to the press.
23.) 08 Nov 2015 11:58:09
Billy - again there is no outcome of this case that is favourable for us. If the assets were deemed to have been acquired fraudulently then they will be returned to the seller which is now BDO. They will sell to the highest bidder. All we will have is a team with no name with nowhere to play and debts of over 10 million pounds.
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05 Mar 2020 07:09:58
My tuppenceworth on what is happening.
Some suggest sacking the manager (an expensive option) others say no.
The fact is, SG has his own doubts Why all that media yak about decision withing 48 hours etc? Did that really need to be headline news? Could he not have just gone about his business without publicity. Just my take but I think he was putting feelers out to see if anyone from down south showed interest.
Many also want to keep him and back him. Fair comment but he has been given a lot of financial backing already and you can see what is on the field.
I said from day one that SG was not experienced enough to take on this job and I still believe that. He has lost the confidence and trust of the players by continually throwing them under the bus when results do not go his way.
I also believe that this job was always a short-term stepping stone for a job down south.
If the club does not show progress in Europe then that will be his departure card. Will he walk?
1.) 05 Mar 2020 08:46:30
Gerrard should do the honourable thing and walkðŸ‘.
2.) 05 Mar 2020 08:49:16
SG has definitely changed the way he deals with press conferences where he openly berated players. He is now saying that they need his support. Make no bones about it I am sure these players are getting it in the neck from him behind closed doors but i'm happier they are getting his protection. The players lack confidence. I have no idea why. A great first half to the season and a great run in Europe leaves no reason for these players to have lost confidence as they have done since the winter break. My only conclusion is that after the first half of the season the fans expectations rightly went up. Thoughts of 55 were relevant and possible. The players have bottled it.
30 Apr 2018 13:23:21
Not one person from the club spoke to the media (a requirement by contract I believe) after the game.
Was this a unanimous decision or was Murty and the rest told not to? (and if so, by whom? )
Yes, Murty would have been hurting but so were the people who paid to watch that spineless debacle.
Insult to the fans who continually support them through thick and thin and buy ST's and kits - imo.
29 Apr 2018 21:24:41
Why oh why can't this club do its business THEN make announcements instead of having it all over the press and tv?
If it all turns turtle and SG turns the job down, then what?
Who will DK and his cronies blame this time?
1.) 30 Apr 2018 01:02:16
Remind me, password, when did the club make an announcement about Gerrard?
2.) 30 Apr 2018 06:10:35
Burnbank, the club did make a statement saying that talks are going well, they still have a few issues to iron out but hope to make a further announcement this week.
25 Apr 2018 08:23:02
I guess one positive which came out of the Hibs v Celtic result is that it has removed the possible problem of Rangers players being put in the position of lining up to applaud the Champions-elect onto the field of play as is tradition.
Before everyone has a go, it is a tradition and if the players did it then they and the board would be trashed by many of their own supporters and if they didn't, then the players and board would be trashed by Celtic and msm. The Hibs result has removed that no-win situation at least.
1.) 25 Apr 2018 08:51:30
Stay off the glue mate
2.) 25 Apr 2018 09:50:40
LDM17, not sure what you mean. Was my comment wrong?
It is a tradition so where did I err?
3.) 25 Apr 2018 10:29:35
Rangers were NEVER giving Celtic a guard of honour tradition or not. Hibs refused to give Rangers one and I don’t recall any uproar. Its a non story.
4.) 25 Apr 2018 10:30:13
You are correct password- opponents applaud new champions at their first home game after winning the title - as recently as last week Falkirk did this for StMirren - which was why Morton did not have to do this at St mirrens next home game - long standing tradition-
5.) 25 Apr 2018 19:32:07
afcw191 thanks for the verification, and your comment supports my point about removing any issue.
LDM17 - Why not? I this club above following traditions? I for one would have no problems as it goes against what they want and expect. It shows the club have decency and integrity which many accuse the old regime of not having.
Break the mould, restart afresh, show that this club is not petty. Or is that not true? Is it really same old bitterness?
18 Apr 2018 07:51:59
I notice quite a few posts having a go at Murty along the lines of the problem should have stayed in the dressing room.
Was it Murty who released the information of what went on to the media?
As for Miller - Once again his name appears alongside trouble inside dressing room and undermining of another manager. Wonder why that is?
1.) 18 Apr 2018 08:08:31
Miller passionately cares about the club unlike some of the imposters that disgraced the jersey on Sunday. Both Miller and Wallace have been made scapegoats for a quite shocking performance. Everyone saw what Halliday said to Murty why was he not suspended?
2.) 18 Apr 2018 08:10:52
100% correct ArthurD🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
3.) 18 Apr 2018 09:31:28
The treatment of Halliday was unforgivable I've no idea why he started the game other than to stop Brown but from the off you could see the set up was wrong but to sub him with three minutes to go is a disgrace having a player walk of that pitch with the Celtic fans laughing at him why not wait to half time three mins what difference would it have made, it's obvious this team do not believe in Murty it's been one mistake after another by this board we are heading for our fourth manager since we came back up, we have five games to try and get second but with Murty in charge it's going to be a hard task, there is no confidence in this team right from the back to the front our defence is a complete shambles we are the top scoring team in the league three more than Celtic but we are fifth in goals conceded Martin is terrible Alvis not much better McCrorie is a better midfield player than a defender until they sort out the defence we will go nowhere, this board need to be more open if they want to sell season tickets have we a kit deal? is there investment Miller and Wallace will not play again then we have Dodo, Ohalloran, and a few others who need to be moved on Goss back to QPR Cummings would you pay £1mill for him not me, so we need maybe half a dozen players just to get squad back up to size and hopefully a new manager and then if we do and it's a big if we qualify for Europe we are back playing qualifiers in June that's only about ten weeks away, have we moved forward well I'll leave that open
23 Apr 2018 17:50:27
Walter also recommended Ally.
15 Apr 2018 21:43:21
Just what does Nichol bring to the team? He is obviously getting a salary
11 Jan 2018 09:22:35
great intention agbroxi, but unless there is a change in ownership, it will never happen.
The opportunity to re-write the whole club structure and do exactly as you suggest was there in 2012 when it all went pear-shaped.
Build from youth and take the hits. Maybe accept that promotion would take a wee bit longer. But, once at the top, the system would be established with future players/ sell-ons coming through. But, the chance was lost as they old guard carried-on as usual. (3 of them are still running the show and showing why 2012 happened)
13 Oct 2017 09:29:23
DK talked a lot of money to get what he wanted, and succeeded. How much of his own money has he actually parted with to help the club?
Stated he had £30 million then the rhetoric changed to we need £30 million.
He is on record as being called a glib and shameless liar in a court of law and I don't see him challenging that.
I never agreed with him taking over and everything which has happened since has supported my feelings.
Fed up seeing the senior people at the club from CEO to Manager continually make it look like a joke.
30 Apr 2017 10:26:19
Too early to tell about the manager.
The players, on the other hand, were a disgrace.
Bitching about being told their holidays will be reduced. do they want to be professional footballers or not?
How many supporters would give their eye teeth to turn up and play for nothing never mind some of the bloated salaries plus add ins these guys get?
Let's see how many big clubs come in with offers for some of these Prima donas at the end of the season.
24 Aug 2022 12:57:21
Doiger,
they have tried the 'goal line' assistants before and they were a waste of time.
20 May 2020 10:38:41
Transfers and contracts were always going to be a sticky issue when C.V.iots closed everything down.
Unless you could keep the players registered to play out remaining games then it could create an unfair advantage/ disadvantage.
Anyway, that issue has been resolved by ending the league season as is (right or wrong) .
Personally, I still think the cup should be played to completion behind closed doors and they could theoretically apply the pre- quarantine rules (there are not a whole bunch of rounds to be played around the country)
For me, what's done is done and complaining will change nothing. it's time to move on and plan next Seasons campaign.
23 Feb 2020 16:32:54
C'mon K?
Thats not going to happen.
They are 3-1 down, player sent off and they are away from home.
Looks like 12 point gap now (and a good of 20)
11 Dec 2019 07:40:20
At the end of the day, that would be correct.
The team was up for it
The tactics were good
The opposition were well below their usual pace and style but scored a very suspiciously offside goal.
Hit their keeper
Keeper had one of those could not go wrong days
AND, penalty saved (in my opinion it was on target so a save not a miss)
We move on and concentrate on next game.
01 Apr 2019 10:17:51
Morelos took the bait and suffered the consequences.
There is a great player inside there but until he learns to walk away and keep his head he will always be a liability.
Look how many goals he has already scored. How many more COULD he have scored by staying on the park for 90 minutes?
Even SG cannot defend him any more.
Lucky not to have 2 reds imo. Raising your hand to another player is just stupid. Even if it is handbags at 20 paces. Look at the photos all kicking around and it looks like a Mike Tyson smash!
Players have goto to learn to walk away. The best response you can give is not an elbow or a slap. it's a goal against them
Anyway, it's over and now it's onwards to the next game.