Rangers Rumours Archive June 10 2012

10 Jun 2012 22:55:49
Rangers got a list of 19 players 5 of them are at euros now , all free agents ,Any guesses couple of Croatian players are up for free Gattuso , Black , Aluko, Alan smith , lovenkrands, ??

Every club in europe has scouts at the euros, and none of them are bankrupt. Do you think there are 5 players there that nobody else will notice ?

I've said before that I think Green wants the CVA to fail but now I'm utterly convinced of this with all his talk of signing players at the Euros and increasing Ally's budget by 1.5 million just days before creditors are to vote on the proposal.

Would you change jobs go to a new employee who is in the back of beyond makes workers take wage cuts doesn't know where it will be working next year. I would if there was nothing else on the table but would want me money up front.

Green is an absolute nut job. Promises to be gone in a year yet no exit plan or up front disclosure of whats in it for him and his 2 to 20 strong consortium(depending what day of the week it is)
He makes Whyte look respectable!

It's maybe time people stopped believing the rubbish written in the paper and the what someone trying to make millions off your back tell you.

If the CVA fails then Green gets Rangers for less money. But he then needs to get his newco approved to play in the SPL - which is liklely.

One possible problem for him could be that a better offer comes along and the liquidator rips up the deal he made with D&P. In which case he walks away and has spent no money and could even sue for breach of contract. So it's still win-win.

How many of them have got a good 10 + years left of their career (except Aluko) none of them and wages would be a huge stumbling block (apart from Gattuso)

Just talking up for season ticket sales.

Doesn't cost anything to look, but without knowing which league playing in, whether we are out of Europe for 3 years or if indeed we have a year suspension from SPL coming, expecations need to be managed regarding player purchases.

If cva fail and green gets ibrox for £5 million - its a steal.

all his free publicity seems to try to get creditors to reject cva.... ?

What 5 r away to the euros

At last most bears have finally seen through Charles Green, who it definitely appears wants the CVA to fail so he can make more money out of an Ibrox liquidation firesale.

Please stop embarrassing our club Mr Green and taking us for mugs. BB

Would you change jobs go to a new employee who is in the back of beyond makes workers take wage cuts & doesn't know where it will be working next year.
No player who is ambitious would choose such a route. Players at the end of their careers trying to squeeze out a living - no problem.

"Just talking up for season ticket sales."...................whack nail hit on head

He should not have to talk up season ticket sales, if gers fans do not realise the importance of filling up Ibrox by now, then the club is dead as a dodo.

It would be ironic if Raners went into liquidation next year because of falling attendances, so much for loyalty and not walking way.

10 Jun 2012 19:06:20
Naismith has given Moyles his word he will sign for Everton, Moyles now waiting until CVA is approved or not approved to see if Everton need to pay a fee or Naismith is available for free if Rangers are liquidated and newco formed.

Source : Rangers fan who is a mate of James McFadden.

Absolute Tosh mate!
Naismith has three years left on his contract which will automatically revert to SFA ownership,upon liquidation,and this will be part of the creditors pot.
He also has a renegotiated contract tied into the wage deferral case,and this will trigger a £2million fee. So he won't be going to anyone for nothing.
P.O.B.

Chris Moyles ?

Are Rangers selling him to take over radio one ???

One thing Naismiths agent was quick to say no move to West Ham last week, but no statement on Everton move?

If Naismith doesn't take advantage of £2 million move option, then is he type of player Rangers want? Any player with ambition wants an EPL move.

I remember Fraser Wishart stated players can move for free if newco formed? Green also stated this week newco = £7million in saved wages!

Green talking about saving if out of Europe for 3 years.

Why would david moyes tell a player he has released who he is signing? graeme

Players can move for free if rangers are liquidated..player contracts are nul and
void..players are not an asset that you can liquidate... source employment law

Contracts can be sold on to Newco by D&P.

Contracts can be sold on to Newco by D&P.
ehh no they cant so if arnold clark were to form a newco rangers they would have the rangers players contracts dont belive anything u hear from duff and duffer they are in it for themselves

At no point will D&P own the contracts no matter what happens. They belong to rangers now, if rangers are liquidated they become the property of the SPL. Wishart said so. And it's his job to know

...property of SFA not SPL (and its at SFA Board discretion if transfer money is released to liquidator - SFA might be pushed to pay football creditors first).

The contract doesn't revert to SFA, rather they become the holders of the registration.

Its a safeguard for players to be able to find new employment if a team goes bust

Nasiy going no where trust me

If Rangers liquidate and players aren't transferred to NEWCO then they can walk free of charge. If they are sold with the other assets of RFC to NEWCO before any liquidation then they can't walk (they are not employed by the liquidated company at the time of the liquidation) so their contracts continue with the same T&Cs. Companies are sold every day and employment contracts are merely transferred with protection, but no right ont he employee's part to terminate just because they dont like their new employer. SPFA may be challenging this as a potential outcome, but they would need to go through European court to change it.

O.k poster above in u wee trust.. NOT?

O.k poster above in u wee trust.. NOT?

Don't like the answer it must be wrong...head back in sand

10 Jun 2012 12:24:28
I cannot believe what Green is saying in the papers today. It seems he says anything to get through Thursday.

£30m to be raised during the cooling off period? 28 days from Thursday? He says it's two years tickets money! Where's that coming from? I'm not buying two years tickets in the next month!

We can sack him if we like! By buying his shares, so that'll be another £20m right!! Ffs.

How is his £8.5m LOAN related to not destroying the 26,000 shareholders? I'll tell you, so that the 26,000 shareholders of Rangers owe him the money and interest back!

I cannot believe he is not allowing the SFA to complete its panel judgement, dragging it out to the 21 day point of appeal to court of session, then not appealing. Thus dragging the whole SPL and SFL into fixtures chaos for next season.

HMRC won't agree a CVA unless they know who the shareholders are and are satisfied that they will pay PAYE etc in full and on time moving forward. So Green's stance of agree CVA and we'll disclose shareholders afterwards won't wash.

The 30mil is equal to 2years ticket
money, not actual ticket money mate

Can anyone please advise why Green doesn't come clean on his 20 person consortium? Well 19 since Mike McDonald pulled out. why can't he name them before the CVA? Is it because no creditor would vote to take their money if they knew who they are? I don't understand what's the secrecy about ??

If we don't get to play in the SPL next season or even the SFL if the worst comes to the worse, who could we be playing and how much money would we have coming in.

If we were out of the SPL & SFL could we play friendlies against european sides. Or would UEFA/FIFA stop that ?

Never mind that he wont be there longer than a year

SSN yesterday

lenny

Ned to be in the SFA to play friendlies against teams from other associations

No association football team under FIFA would be allowed to play us during the suspension.

This is the reason why rangers are despised and not just disliked. Disgusting buying players when they are stealing ppls via the joke CVA. If i was a bear I could not allow myself to support a club that shows not one hint of romorse or compassion.

To last post, how many victims of crime show remorse? Rangers fans are victims of crime, why should we say sorry?

He is desperate to get season ticket money. Has anyone committed themselves to buying or know anyone who has. Look pretty stupid in a crowd of 100 or so.

No one is buying until cooling off period completed, SPL investigations are over and SFA penalty published and theirs/ UEFA and FIFA investigations over. No emotional blackmail, no gullible here Mr Green, commit the money u say u have to commit then we start paying in.

Rumour Ticketus is 50% of Greens consortium. Ticketus will own 50% of rangers and get their money back one way or another. That's why greens not coming clean.

Why are we attracting all these bogus buyers? Bill Miller, Bill Ng, Whyte, Blue Knights, and now Green.All in it to line their pockets. Green couldn't give a flying fox for Rangers survival he like the others is looking to make some money from our misery!

Writing this with an open heart and honesty. I have a lot of great friends and family who are blue blooded Rangers fans and it is now heart breaking to see what has become of their club. Everybody and his dog wants to pitch in with their expert opinion as to why they should be punished. I as a lifelong Celtic fan want to take a stance on this and say that due to the mis management of the club, Rangers fans were lead to believe that there was a bottomless pit of wealth and that they could buy any player that they wanted and therefore win boundless amounts of leagues and trophies. So if we move up to the present day and the misery that has been bestowed upon the club, I see a lot of proud fans who have been lied to and are still being lied to. the club is now at the stage where only the charlatans of the business world want to get involved to make a quick buck and move on. they are prepared to lie and cheat to get what they want and when it all comes to light, they will have brought more shame on Rangers. I urge all decent Rangers fans to think very carefully about what this so called consortium is going to do with the club and review any other options that must be available. I dont wish to see any more of my friends and family hurt by the goings on at present and would like to see the SPL get back to what it is meant to be. I think that genuine Rangers fans realize that unfortunately the club will have to take some form of punishment, but everyone else has to accept that it is not the fans who are to blame here and move on whatever the outcome is on 16th June.

Yours in Football.
J

Season ticket sales - hmmmm - there's no way Ticketus are giving more money and I would think any other finance company would stay clear too.

Are Ticketus with Green? I don't think so. There's no way they can get £27m back again that way without forcing Rangers back into administration again. They are stuffed with the CVA and whatever thay can get from Whyte.

Is this guy having a giraffe?

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