Rangers Rumours Archive June 11 2012

 

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11 Jun 2012 21:28:33
Leading football finance expert Neil Patey of Ernst & Young believes key indicators are now pointing towards Rangers achieving a CVA with key creditors HMRC and Ticketus.

If the club can striker the deal, reported to be around 9p in the pound, Rangers would continue in their current form and would not have to for, a new company. (Mail)

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I think this is mixed news. Getting the CVA is obviously good in some ways, but having a newco might be better. Depends on what your perspective is.

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Would you take 9p in the pound for your wages and your pension fund?
Neither will HMRC , rangers are not spain or greece. Get real , rangers are only going forward as a newco.

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What "key indicators"? The only way we will get away with a CVA is if we have compromising pictures of Ticketus CEO and HMRC chief. What most folk seem to be forgetting is that a lot of English Premier teams are shi**ing themselves re the decision from HMRC as they will be next! That leaves HMRC with the problem that if they accept a pittance from Rangers, they are litterally pi**ing billions of unpaid tax down the pan from our English colleagues.

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Accepting a CVA is not pissing millions down the drain. It is however a clear example of culpability on Rangers part and HMRC will accept that. Also, HMRC are culpable because Rangers had these EBT's in audited accounts for several years and HMRC done nothing other than let the liabilities grow.

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No they are not !! HMRC won't be throwing millions away from Premier League clubs by doing a CVA for gers. They can only do it with gers because of an insolvency event. I mean all the PL clubs could do it I suppose, if they went into admin first and declared they didn't have enough money to pay off debts, along with all the penalties that come with it.

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The CVA isn't for the big tax case I thought? Or am I way off?

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I know for a fact hmrc plan to reject the CVA {Ed039's Note - Care to expand?)

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My cousin works for hmrc and apparently there is a big internal disagreement on the CVA

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The cva includes BTC is verdict comes that rangers owe HMRC then CVA pot is reduced from 9p in the pound to 3p in the pound.
As for HMRC using rangers as an example this will not happen if HMRC is sure that they will get less money in liquidation than CVA they will accept CVA as they have to look after the best interests of the tax payer rather than get no money back in liquidation. HMRC don't work on let's set an example and put people out of work.

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It would be better if the CVA failed IMHO because then we can sign players much sooner(under a newco) . If the CVA succeeds I think we'll be in much poorer shape next season and eventually could face going into administration a second time

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You are correct the CVA is for monies owed at the present moment the BTC has not been announced so even if CVA is accepted the BTC could take rangers back into admin with more penalties. This is why Green is upsetting creditors with talk of new players he wants CVA rejected and newco would not be liable for BTC under current legislation. this is under review

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The CVA doesnt include any liabilities from the EBT scheme, as that has not been decided upon.

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HMRC have been offered 2p in £ at Portsmouth and they are repeat offender.

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HMRC will not do a CVA where PAYE,NI and VAT have been intentionally withheld as is the case with Rangers.

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Looks like leading football financial expert was wrong.

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An asset sale is worth ten times more so a CVA isn't going to happen.
The public accounts committee doesnt allow pennies deals with HMRC anymore.

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How daft do you feel now ? If you keep saying stuff it doesn't mean it will come true

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Well we won't be listening to Mr Patey again will we.

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Wrong!!

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Radio 5 live have just announced that HMRC have rejected CVA and are appointing BDO as liquidators !!

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Hmrc reject cva proposal , bbc

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Games a bogie, H.M.R.C. reject proposal the end is nigh

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HMRC have rejected the CVA

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HMRC have known all along that liquidation would eventually yeild more for the creditors than the proposed CVA. It's just the media that have kept going on about the CVA being "better than nothing".

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Rangers CVA failed. To be liquidated.
Patey no proven wrong loses professional credibility.

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What part of all the players leave for nothing if we get liquidated don't people understand plus the stadium isn't worth alot as who's going to buy it
Oh yeah liewell will offer over £50M for it just to see his only competition out the box

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He was wrong eh.

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HMRC has taken the view that the public interest will be better served with the liquidation of The Rangers Football Club plc as a corporate entity.......think that says it all. If this is their view why let it go on for so long they could have issued a winding up order back in February rather than forcing administration.

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Yeah, as I've said Neil Patey was gonna look stupid after hos statement. BB

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Leading football finance Expert eh!

bil72

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Mr. Patey - you really must start looking for a new job . i am a careers adviser so give me a ring !

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Neil, looks like your jakit's on a shaky nail. From hero to zero in less than 24hours; time to resign I think.

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Does not say much for E&Y does it?

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11 Jun 2012 12:25:07
HI ed first post on here for a while just been reading that charles green is looking into the possibility of a sponsorship deal regarding renaming the stadium ...i for one would welcome such a move after all the name of the stadium is of lesser importance to the fans than the history of the club ...time to follow follow mr green and his consortium i think .... {Ed039's Note - I wouldnt mind naming rights for the stadium coz lets face it, its the only thing we havent sold the rights to, I will reserve judgement on Mr Green for the next few weeks to unfold)

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You can rename it all you like, Itll always be in Ibrox, and will always be a stadium, so its always Ibrox Stadium to many.

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Now that millers nonsense about incubators and mergers is history can you explain how rangers seem to think they will still keep their history ?? if no cva green buys the stadium and starts a new club whyte still owns rangers everything but the pitch and then it will be liquidated history the lot ... the only thing to survive will be the pitch rangers cant call themselves rangers any more than queens park can call themselves scotland because they play at hampden

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I agree.Every team should go down this route whether they are rich or not

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Well as we owe so much money we could call it Tickitus Park...or HMRC Arena

Sad Cyprus Bear..please sort this mess out its depressing to be so far away and see so much unravel...

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You could call it poundland

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I but it wont be ibrox to your grand kids,wee will sail through this without renaming the stadium,i do not know what evrybody is worried about.you watch wee will be back to normal next season,and this will just seem like a bad dream,WATP,

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Ibrox will always be Ibrox, in the same manner that the Newcastle fans do not call their Home Ground the Sports Direct Arena, they still and I'm sure always will call it St James Park.

If it generates additional revenue which helps us get back on our feet etc then does it really matter, our being known as Rangers is more important in my mind.

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Alas it won't be "Ibrox" for long. The media will all refer to it as "The Irn Bru Stadium" or whatever and within a few years, "Ibrox" will seem like calling 5p a shilling.

Can't see Green getting much for the naming rights, though. How much does Reebok pay to Bolton?

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You could call it the green and whyte stadium lol

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We will be back to normal next season?

I hope that's a wind-up mate. There's gonna be litigations and court cases for years to come whatever the outcome is. And the sooner all bears realise this the better. BB

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If you can't afford Poundland you try Pennies in the Poundland!

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Lol @ the guy above

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You watch wee will be back to normal next season,and this will just seem like a bad dream,WATP,??

to above poster^^^^

A think you've been dreaming pal!
have u missed the firestorm of the past few months?
ye needy quit the turps shandys n take a deep breath efter at comment!!

Personally i feel they kin call it whatever they like longs its no Green Flag Stadium lol

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Ye needy quit the turps shandys n take a deep breath efter at comment!
best comment i have heard for a while lol

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What about... "The We've been Shaf*ed by SDM & CW Stadium"

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Duff & Duffer can do what they want with the club and Green may well tell the world that he has bought the club. The truth of the matter is that if HMRC are not happy with the sale then they will cancel it down and insist on a better deal for the creditors.

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11 Jun 2012 12:10:47
Talking to davie proven at gourock golf club, jelavic will leave Everton in January for at least 15 million. {Ed039's Note - Did he have his crystal ball with him?)

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Lol Davie Proven

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Silly question - -but standard practise nowadays is a sell on clause.

whats the betting we've fecked that up as well?

bill72

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I seen yesterday that 41 of jelavic's last 44 goals have been 1st touch, with a run of 27 in a row. By far the best striker to play in the spl in a good few years.

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At least davie pays the taxman. {Ed039's Note - Do you have your crystal ball as well)

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For me, if and when we get the sell on clause money it should go to rapid as there owed money and anything left we keep.

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Davie Proven??
Scraping the barrel of the rumours mill there mate ooft!

TrueGer

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Could this be provan to be true? ;)

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RAPID Vienna will be repre-sented at the meeting at Ibrox on Thursday which will determine the success or failure of prospective Rangers onwer Charles Green’s CVA proposal – and the Austrians are threatening to throw a spanner in the works by voting against it.

Rapid have also indicated they will go to Uefa and/or Fifa to try and recoup what they are owed by Rangers for the sale of Nikica Jelavic in August 2010.

The Austrian club is still owed £1,011,763.44 by Rangers from the £4 million transfer of the Croatia striker. Green’s offer means that Rapid would instead receive a maximum of just over £91,000 – even though Rangers will recoup all £5.5m from the sale of Jelavic to Everton in January.

Rapid could also end up with a lot less than that because creditors have been told the amount they receive will also depend on the outcome of the big tax case and the £25m lawsuit against lawyers Collyer Bristow. It could take years for those matters to be settled and, if results go against Rangers, Rapid could end up receiving just £10,000 of the cash due to them – which is why they insist they are ready to take their case against the Ibrox club to Uefa and Fifa.

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Provan to be a lot of mince. The way Jelavic is playing he will be a valuable asset for Moyes, and he will keep him. Fancy Everton for a top 5 finish. Think DP had been on the don revvie again.

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Why would everton get rid of a striker like jelavic in january. never heard so much bull in all my life.they would want at least 30million.

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11 Jun 2012 11:08:18
provided we get back on track, coisty has stated(daily record) as saying he would like to offer new contracts to kerker, little and healy. I f ally wants to be competing next season then these three players are not the answer. ally please look beyond loyalty and look at the bigger picture. {Ed039's Note - A new contract for Healy? He said that?)

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Yes he would keep healy. people thought healy would have left in the last transfer window yet ally decided to keep him on. is ally bold enough to make these decisions, i have my doubts! he will be short of firepower with lafferty almost certain to leave and the uncertainty over naisy!

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Why would he offer a contract to a player he obviously doesnt rate. McCulloch was the preferred striker over Healy towards the end of the season....says it all.

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Last season you begged players to take huge wage cuts and show loyalty now your saying stuff loyalty and boot them out the door your unbelievable after that statement you can not complain if any player walks out

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Not a big Healy or Kerker an but we should be trying to keep everybody we can at the moment. BB

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Must be 3rd division then because that's all them players are good for.

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OMG Healy NO!

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I think you lot are totally underestimating Kerkar, looks like a great wee player.

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11 Jun 2012 09:09:58
CHARLES GREEN last night said he has a list of 19 signing targets for Rangers - five of them playing at Euro 2012.
And he added that he and is ready to ask the SPL for permission to replace the Ibrox club's out-of-contract players.
SPL rules state that, with Board approval, clubs in administration may replace players whose deals expire.
Sasa Papac, Sone Aluko, Salim Kerkar, David Healy and Andy Little are out of contract and free to move.
Although McCoist would like to re-sign them - Papac has already left - there are no guarantees they won't have moved before he is given cash to make them offers.
Rangers were banned from signing anyone for 12 months by the SFA but that was vetoed by the Court of Session although an Appellate Tribunal must now decide which sanction the club will face.
If a CVA is approved on Thursday, Rangers can exit administration in mid-July and will be able to sign players.
But Green will explore the possibility of offering terms before then by citing rule 6.20 of the SPL regulations, which makes provision for signings being made in special circumstances by clubs who have suffered an insolvency event.
Green said: 'That is an avenue open to the club.'
He also said 19 players have been identified with five of them currently at Euro 2012 and has pledged to add to a budget of £1.5m agreed between McCoist and administrators Duff and Phelps for next season.
With many Rangers fans holding off on buying season-tickets until the CVA decision is made, Green was wary on the subject of new investment through renaming Ibrox Stadium but admitted the feelers are out with a figure of £10million being mentioned.

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Well the guessing starts. Presumably the "five at Euro 2012" won't be playing for Spain, Italy, England, France, Netherlands, Germany, Russia or Portugal. Scandinavian players probably too expensive. So we're probably looking at Ireland, Croatia, Czech Rep, Poland and Ukraine. From what I saw of Ireland last night there's not a lot of talent there even though the Wolves players (Ward, Doyle, Hunt) will be available. So it's hopefully Eastern Europe for Green. And we're not talking Modric or Cech either. May find the next Jelavic at Croatia but otherwise we're looking at Polish or Ukranian players - so keep an eye on the home nations.

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To response 1: or Green's just trying to get fans excited and buying season tickets. Face it: his list of 5 could be Xavi, van Persie, Benzema, Ronaldo and Lahm for all we know but there's no chance of them happening, and very little chance of any Euro 2012 players being at Ibrox next season.

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Well Newcastle haven't been able to find a paying sponsor for their standium name and that's without all the negative PR around Rangers as a brand. £10m potential figure is laughable and just about sums up Green's credibility with everything he's been saying over the past couple of weeks.

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Who nineteen signing player to targets for Rangers and who five of them playing at Euro 2012?

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I cant see players at the euros wanting to come to scotland and play in the 3rd division

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More guff

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All those players for £1.5M ??? Please get this Green guy to at least talk sense of a sort !

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Green really must think all Rangers fans are as thick as mince.

Am more worried about the club signing off audited accounts on Friday than all the pie in the sky talk about signing players who are at the Euros.

If these accounts aren't lodged shortly then the SPL can declare Rangers aren't compliant and can't be allowed to compete in the SPL.

And remember the CVA which I don't believe will be approved is conditional upon both the SPL and SFA agreeing that Rangers will be in the SPL next season.

I assume they will be ready but in the current climate I'm starting to worry that another problem will rear its head.

Anybody have any information on the subject?

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Not just signed off accounts, can't be qualified accounts as they won't comply. BTC means a def qualified comment from auditors. PAYE Tax bill has gone from £8m to £15m to £18m since we went into admin because the accounting books are in such a mess. If that's an indication, then dread to think what the rest of the books look like.

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I know Green has been in football before. But is he really in a position to scout for players and contact agents etc? He won't know who to call, surely? {Ed039's Note - He has an office at Ibrox, I am sure people around him have contacts, but I think it is disgusting he is talkin about signings in a week where companies are being expected to take a cut in what is owed, and I am a Gers fan)

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What's to guess, in under2 weeks there won't be an SPL place. Who's going to sign then...get real

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Lets get one thing straight the rule is for clubs who has had to release players in administration and have no squad rangers have not lost one player so if you think this will be voted by the spl your even more gullible than craig whyte thought

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MR GREEN SAID GOUROCK 2012, NOT EUROPE 2012

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All green is doing is trying to con u's into buying season tickets!

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OP is mistaken.
No signing of players allowed during administration under any circumstances.

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What a chump green is. do you think HMRC are sitting watching these statements & raedy to accept reduced pence in the £ deal? no chance

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11 Jun 2012 08:24:11
Have we not learnt anything from our current situation?

I see martin petrov being linked with a move to us. what is he 33?? Gattuso 34?? What happened to giving youth a chance? I'd rather see a young lad bursting his arse week in week out than a foreigner on thousands a week n coming to the end of his career. McCabe, Hutton, Ness, Cole, Perry, Little, Mitchell n Fleck are all in their early twentys n i'm pretty sure neither of them are on huge money either. Next season is just about having a club to follow; success is not expected so for me this offers ally the opportunity to introduce these young guys into the first team without the pressures of having to win every game on them. if we can somehow manage to keep bocanegra, edu, aluko n naismith then that would be great, a few loans that would improve the first team would be great too but most importantly we must have a club......n by signing ageing foreigners rather than bringing in youth is exactly what has contributed to our current situation. so petrov n gattuso can f##k off....
J1985 {Ed039's Note - Well said that man)

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I wholeheartedly agree, and have been saying the same thing for years.. but gatusso i would welcome back with open arms purely because i believe he would fight for the jersey and install a bit of passion into the younger players

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We'll need players that have been at the highest level....EPL and Seria A not bad ^^

Only a couple of the youth players are good enough for the first team, we cant be relying on them if we are in the SPL, if we end up in Div 3, then fair enough, youth will HAVE to be utilised

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I cant understand why we would want petrov,

but i can understand based on a marketing revenue stand point alone why we would want to get gattuso, the return of a club hero that the fans have waited so long for will produce money even is it is just on shirt sales alone, never mind dvds and all the other stuff the club till churn out over the 1/2 years he might be back for,

therefore gattuso will be seen as a good money generating option for a club badly in need of money,

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Gattuso wants to play out the end of his career just like Roy Keane went to Celtic for a few months. It won't be for the money, surely!

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Shirt sales won't bring in any more money than the current deal already pays so you could sell 5 million Gattuso shirts and Umbro will see the vast majority of profit.

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I agree - Gattuso would sell shirts etc and should be the captain to bring on the youngsters. Think McCabe, Ness etc would benefit from this. Not keen on Petrov though - waste of time.

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Mccabe, ness, perry n little have not let us down once last season or the year before in the case of ness. how are they not good enough? Guys like cole, mitchell n hutton haven't been given a chance n like i said the boys i mentioned have been great. Look back to as recently as danny wilson......given a chance n earned us a few million after a season, same with alan hutton. we'll never know if we dont offer them a chance n writing them off as you did before they've been given that chance is the type of mentality thats prevented young players coming through.
Fair enough about gattuso it'll be a comercial signing but the deal has to be right for us, perhaps a pay as you play deal, i'd be pissed if he signed n only played a dozen games or so but still recieved a decent wage.
J1985

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You mentioned 8 young players we should look to for next season but lets be honest out of that lot perry is average, little is average, fleck is below average, hutton is average and ness is injury prone. i for one aren't optimistic about the youngsters we have. look across the road at our paranoid neighbours, as much as it pains me to say this, their young players are streets ahead of ours.

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We need a balance, a few well chosen senior players is always a better than none, even if its just their presence in the dressing room.

How you can tell Gattuso to f**k off, given his affinity for the club and the fact he wants to play for practically nothing makes me wonder what kind of fan you are?

I agree wrt Petrov, was a decent player 6 years ago, done nothing since.

Prob not get posted seeing Ed agrees with you!

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Agree with above post gattuso on a pay as you play deal, cuellar and a decent striker

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Have you totally lost the plot! Gattuso would be great for these young guys coming through, an inspiration! That's what he was all about, and he's made it clear he want to GIVE something back to the club. HELLO!

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Hello to you. So gattuso will knock back a move to say qpr, who for talking sake offer 25k a week, to play for us for 5k a week??
As for the post about this "affinity" certain players have for rangers......i'm still waiting on kevin phillips, robbie fowler n alan smith to walk the m6 to play for rangers, a team they have such an affinity for......as for what type of fan i am......a realist pal, money talks n if gattuso is offered a better deal elsewhere he'll take it. Me personally would support a team of 11 kirk broadfoots as long as they were rangers.......n like i said i'd rather we explored the option of youth before signing an ageing foreigner.....oh n if gattuso has such an affinity why not offer us his services at 31???
J1985 {Ed039's Note - We all dream of a team of ......... erm ....... Kirk Broadfoots lol, but seriously as long as we survive I would take it)

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I'd definitely give Gattuso a contract, he's said he isn't in it for the money and if it isn't working he'll tear up his contract and walk away. A young squad needs experience in every dept, Rino, Jig and Boca will give that. Plus i'd put my mortgage on it that those youngsters would jump at the chance to play and train with Rino Gattuso! Plus he'd show "Brooney" a thing or two about being a competitive midfielder lol I really don't agree with Celtic's youngsters being better than ours, McCabe was running the midfield during the last OF game at ibrox andNess could out pass any of there midfielders!
Dmrangers

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Gattuso's wife is Glaswegian. He will retire after us and play for pittance.

This club has half of his heart. We gave him his wife.

I welcome a world cup winner. He will teach the youth so much.

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Gattuso has made all the right noises but why wouldn't he? He doesn't want to destroy his reputation with the fans. It's very easy for a footballer to do so but if he's made a better offer, he'll be nowhere near Rangers.

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Messi wears broadfoot jammies......

Oh n btw if you look back my previous posts i said the exact same about young guys benefiting from gattusos experience but at this time is this the kind of signing we need? boca, edu, naisy, aluko n jig have experience, ness has been in or around the first team for 2 seasons now n huttons got half a season with dunfermline under his belt.
to be fair this petrov rumour annoyed me when i seen if this morning n prompted my post more than the gattuso rumour but i still stick by what i say........youth must be given a chance.
J1985

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I fear my fellow rangers fans are failig to see the bigger pictures regarding gattuso. the lad has barely kicked a ball in the last three years and the times i have watched him he hasn't been up to much. he hs also suffered serious injuries along the way, so i'm not sure he will add much to the team. we should be bringing in younger players and building for the future.

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^^^^^^^^^ wrong is so many ways
this is his final & last chance

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Rangers have been accused of a lot in the past year.....tax dodging n dual contracts ect,ect but marraige fixing???? Thats a new 1......."we gave him his wife"
J1985 {Ed039's Note - lol)

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Couldnt agree more about building for the future. If we can somehow keep bocanegra, edu, naisy n aluko n get ness fit n rotate between hutton mccabe n ness alongside edu in the middle, perry alongside boca, whittaker n wallace are fine n aluko n naisy either side of jig or little or possibly a new striker if we manage to do any deals in the summer (still think o'connor on a free wud be decent business) then we'd be ok i think. But these young guys need time n like i said earlier if fans write them off before they've kicked a ball, in the case of cole, mitchell n hutton then they've no chance.
J1985

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He'd probably get a year contract and then probs get a coaching role so tht he and his wife can stay in glasgow

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What if his wife loves living in Italy? They'll be able to afford to live anywhere they want but they'd choose Glasgow because of Rangers? Hmmm.

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11 Jun 2012 01:11:09
Daily Mail reporting that Rangers looking at Martin Petrov of Bolton.

Neil Patey saying thinks CVA likely to be accepted by HMRC.

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This gets reported every year

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If the CVA is accept I'll not be paying tax again. it seems companies can do what they want and get away with it.

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Perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel, but is has been a very long tunnel.

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Rangers will not make any signing's while in administration simply because they know this would rile the sfa spl and other member clubs this is just total nonsense. i also believe the club will have it's cva approved but there may well be assurances required first by the biggest stumbling blocks hmrc and ticketus. i am wary still of charles green but i am willing to give him a chance until such time it is proved that we should not trust him and other celtic fans hijacking this site with comments about rangers there is genuine fans who know we have done wrong and are willing to accept any punishment we are due but it has to be fair and most of all legal. the rangers fans who think we have not done wrong are not genuine fan's and on the ebt investigation being done by the spl then we are innocent until proven guilty. i don't believe it is clear we are guilty yet we need to wait till all the fact's come out and i am sure ed would agree with me.

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Why would HMRC accept 2p in the pound on a bill of £25 million, when they rejected offer of £10 million.

HRMC know ibrox and other assets valued at £100 million, so they know there is money to pay.

How do they know this value, its on the tax returns for GERS last 10 years tax returns.....

so they know they can get paid more than £10 million if they force liquidation....

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HMRC will not accept the CVA as this would mean open season for clubs/businesses to run up debts and then go into administration HMRC hav a bigger responsibility to the business world as a whole than to RFC

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This charade really has to stop.
Complete dribbling from the mouth nonsense from this guy. 19 targets. Same as Whyte last summer, a dozen did trials at mp and no-one got a job.
Midnight trains from Glasgow central anyone.
This is all gob shyte to pretend rangers are a normal business, pre season at le harve, pre season tournament, signing targets, utter nonsense.... This is so he can say look at what I was doing for you when THEY ruined it all (SFA, HMRC, Ticketus)...shyster.

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Re-arranging deck chairs to create an illusion of business as usual, a functioning club. Lmfao.
Perception peddling.
SFA 's Lord Carloway is suspending RFC this week he has no other choice. On Thursday the CVA will be sunk ( given an honest vote count).

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Assuming we can sign anyone on the budget we have he would be a decent signing. Could really build a quality squad off free transfers at the minute if we could afford - Craig Gordon, Carlos Cuellar, Ian Black, Rino Gattuso, Rudi Skacel, Martin Petrov, Alan Smith the list goes on and on. Its a Championship Manager dream!

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He got some breathing space due to the 21 day court of session appeal rule. But it's all going to catch up with him. It's inevitable.
He's just filibustering.

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I'll give you 100:1 that Martin Petrov isn't playing in the SPL next season with Rangers. Oh I forgot u guys don't have any money left to buy or to wager. {Ed039's Note - So the fans have no money either?)

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If rangers are interested you can bet Celtic are aswell, who do you really think he would goto? {Ed039's Note - I dont think either can afford his wages to be honest)

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Wages are pretty large, wont happen

lord nelson

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This is the smoke screen so we buy season ticks"! Green and whyte ur not welcome!!

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"If the CVA is accept I'll not be paying tax again"
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Why not, where have you been when thousands of companies have exited administration via a CVA, you been on their forums saying the same nonsense?

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SFA will NOT suspend Rangers from the league, they have already stated this was too harsh a punishment. SC suspension will happen, or theyll just make up another thing to suit them.

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Mmmmm believe all you so called experts or trust the opinion of a real expert ? god its so hard. never mind thursday nearly here then we will know for sure ...mark.

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To the guy thats gonna stop paying his taxes what ya think ya chances of a cva are lol ....mark.

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"Green and whyte ur not welcome"
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Who exactly would be welcome?

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Trading companies exit admin through CVA due to the variances of the economy, market forces, supply and demand..... Normal business risks and honest.
Rangers, a football club are offering a CVA due to tax evasion on a huge scale, bank indebtedness on a huge scale and conning 274 other service providers. Total board incompetence and mid management.

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If the CVA is accepted I will not be paying tax again? CVAs are accepted every day, is it just if Rangers CVA is accepted?

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Not that i'm bothered, I want this to be over and done with so we can get back to talking about football, but the CVA's that are accepted daily are not by the taxman. There is a difference.

VictorsGonnaeGetYou

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"Not that i'm bothered, I want this to be over and done with so we can get back to talking about football, but the CVA's that are accepted daily are not by the taxman."
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Doesn't bother you at all you say... On a Gers fans rumours page!

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Not just for Rangers fans but a rumour page about Rangers - not a difficult concept to understand. And why should fans of other clubs not have an interest in the situation at the moment? {Ed039's Note - All suporters posts are accepted, as long as they comply with sites rules)

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Will CVA be accepted? Yes
Will RFC be suspended from the SPL? Unlikely. No.
Will we be able to sign players? Yes
Will they be of the calibre of our current squad? Unlikely for the most part.
Will there be a mass exodus? Many will go, yes. Not all.
What will happen next season? a) Much hostility from fans of all other teams. b) But a strong showing in the SPL. Top half, maybe 2nd but who knows.
What punishments will we get? Scottish cup ban. But Green will not walk away, he is too deep in the water to go back now.

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That nick patey's full off sh*t man!

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10 Jun 2012 23:52:44
papers saying, Rangers interested in bringing martin petrov to ibrox

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Daily Mail story - two paragraphs long with no quotes or sources. Furthermore, Petrov signed a new contract with Bolton last week. Dream on.

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Best one yet lol this player is on 50k a week?

Maybe he plans to give him 15k and make the rest up on magic beans.

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Id be interested in gettiing Samantha Fox to move in with me but it isn't going to happen

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