Rangers Rumours Archive September 12 2011

 

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12 Sep 2011 23:48:40
To all the gullible rankers fans that believed that there was a bid for jelavic,who reported that?here is the same paper for tomorrow,still belive everything they say?
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2036690/Rangers-owner-Craig-Whyte-refuses-rule-threat-administration.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Hail Hail from Hector(the tax inspector)

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I see THE septic are getting ready to try and win the spl title by default -doesnt say much for their team or manager does it! plus if they cant do it that way then they will create a sectarian war with rangers its the only thing left just bar them from your thoughts and pay no attention to them at all...they keep fishing and all you bams keep bitingust stop it and they have nothing of any use to them...

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In god we trust para CeltiC fans we welColme the Chase

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Whyte sais nothing about going into administration, only states their are plans in place to stop such things happening ! Typical septic ! 4 in a row here we go ... Bring on sunday WATP !x

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ED..............This is becoming boring, Can you move this to the banter page were were wee Timmy and Hoopy can cream in their under wear about Rangers ongoing tax problems.
FOOTBALL rumours on this page boss and let this go, it's the same old same old every day, you can't milk a cow four times a day.

WIZARD {Ed014's Note - The financial plight of Rangers is all rumours, hence it's appearance on the rumours page. Plus it is the first page people see when they visit the site so it has to be kept relevant. I wouldn't class a newspaper article with quotes from the owner as banter either.}

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12 Sep 2011 23:29:32
Not looking good for us whyte has made it clear the youth is the way forward then to sell them in a few years for profit and said as long as we are in spl we can no longer throw 5 million on transfers..... I dont understand this coment cos if we spend 5-10 a year on transfers we can make a profit in champions league revenue whyte is starting to cause some concern

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He is not saying that he is merely saying that he wants us to live within our means. He has stated that the way forward at present is with youth who may have a good sell on value in 2-3 years time, but if Rangers make the Champions league then we would have that money at our disposal.

Read the guys full article he clearly states that he has been left with a mess by the previous board and that he wants us to clear our feet and get out of the mess. He might need to make hard hitting cuts just now but he also wants to get Rangers back to where they should be as quickly as possible.

Give him some time and have some faith and don't listen to what all the papers are saying coz they are printing lies just to stay alive.

The Pilot!

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This is not true. Rangers currently have operating costs of around 20M a year and as we dont have anywhere near that in terms of income, we rely on the CL money to just try and break even

Craig Whyte said that Rangers are operating on the basis of CL qualification each year which makes it vitally important that we win the SPL and qualify next season to get that 15M

So therefore we cannot spend 5-10M a season on players because that CL money is used to cover costs

People need to wake up and realise we CANNOT spend 5-10M on players anymore

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As long as we are in the SPL ..... so maybe London Rangers is not a fantasy after all.
is this the same Mr. Whyte tols us to believe he would spend 5-10 m in the transfer window.
and why not be interviewed in front of the tv people.....in case it came back to haunt him methinks.
lots of maybes.... too many for comfort !

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Is that 5-10£or 000s lolol

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12 Sep 2011 23:20:44
Rangers to win 4-1 sunday naismith jelavic lafferty 2

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I will be happy just as long as we dont get beat as the team r still taking time to settle. we will have to play better than we did against 10 man united. we will need to be fired up and get on top early and hopefully they will be on a downer after thursday.

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I had a dream that it was 4-1, creepy that you mentioned it
azzy

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Funny that i also had same and when phoned my brother it was engaged he was phoning me ........... to call me a w**ker as last 5 bets i dreamt of all lost , sixth time lucky

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I think its time the so called people need to take a good look at there team before making stupid statements.

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Never predict an old firm game mate just jinx's it

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12 Sep 2011 21:39:52
stevie davis so fast he could play frisby by himself first goal sunday

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Aye, agreed, the wee man was in good shape against utd, unlucky not to score.

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12 Sep 2011 20:26:52
HMRC will not accept any kind of 'deal' They will get what they're owed. Taxman always does.

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..Ignorance must be bliss eh Dheclan...ha ha ha..

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Rangers fc will never die. we are and always will be the worlds most successful football club.

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As an accountant i can say your comment is totally wrong. I constantly get deals for the companies that i deal with. Considering the potential size of the tax bill Rangers will be able to settle with HMRC. This is only relevant if they are guilty of any wrong doing which they are not. Its a loop hole that many companies use.

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I got a letter from HMRC saying i owe £100 for a late tax self assesment,i don't do self assesment so they are wrong and the Taxman will get f*** all from me,so they don't always get their money Timmy.RFC1973

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Aiden, it's way past your bed time. 3IAR

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Sorry guys. But if HMRC let Rangers off with this one then there are about 20-30 other clubs that will also get off the hook. This is a potential revenue loss of hundreds of millions of pounds. And given how skint the country is I just can't see HMRC folding on this one.

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Another sweeping statement with no basis whatsoever in fact.

Go back to your own page.

daviet

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Away back to your own site ya fibber

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For every five pound gers fans put in to the tax kitty celtics fans will put ten pounds lol just cant get enough

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And still finish second eh timothy

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The original poster does not have a clue what he is talking about with regards to the tax case.

Football clubs are not looked upon as normal businesses by the HMRC in that if they win a case against a club they do not immediately issue a winding up order like they do with other businesses. Instead they look to agree a settlement out of court.

For example, if rangers are ordered to pay 40M then they will most likely have o pay around 20M (this was taken from an insolvency expert comments)

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12 Sep 2011 18:37:23
Re what was on Celtic shirt posted at 11.35
Daviet and all you other sad bears, it was to give an advert for Celtic Charity, which does good work all over the world. You really are plunging the depths trying to find a way of taking pressure off your own Rangers team and fans. AWAY AND PAY YOUR TAXES
hail hail Timalloy

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Get on your on site yah clown !!

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Timalloy.

You seem drawn to our pages like nothing else. It must be an uncontrollable urge you have. It's a shame you don't feel the same urge for you own. But nevermind.

As far as the Celtic charity thing goes, that's great. I work for a children's charity and any help disadvantaged kids get is fine by me. Such behaviour should be commended. I think the OP was trying to state that Davie Weir was threatened with punishment for having a slogan on his shirt. Regardless of the wording, Celtic also had a slogan on theirs and should therefore also have been threatened. In my view, that's a petty argument. Davie's problem was that his slogan was not approved- perhaps Celtic obtained the necessary? Who knows. In any case it doesn't really matter.

I think you missed the point I was making to my fellow supporter. I thought the point was made quite clearly as I usually do make the effort. But I'll repeat it again just for you.

I am a Rangers supporter. I was born In Aberdeen and so look out for their results too (I know- I'm existential quandry).

I pay about as much attention to your team as I do to Raith Rovers or Kilmarnock. That is to say, I look at their results when my team are playing them!

PERHAPS if there were a lot more supporters like me then we wouldn't have the "yous vs us" arguments that keep cropping up. We certainly wouldn't have the sectarianism and bigotted chanting by either sets of "fans".

Is that clear enough for you? I hope so.

If there's anything else I can help you with just let me know.

daviet

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Why come on the rangers page JEALOUS?

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Davie weirs slogan was a political message ie towards the royal family which is prohibited in UEFA ruling that's why no permission was given as it wouldn't be allowed and rangers fc should have known that as he didn't go out n get it done himself.

At the moment Celtic fc are trying to raise money for there charity and that is why they worn the charity's logo on there strip which is a great way to raise awareness as there has been alot of chat about.

So concluding David weir broke UEFA rulings, Celtic fc didn't as there's was charity related.

Cumby Bhoy

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Timalloy i think u have too much spare time , instead of signing on , get a job, and you start paying ur taxes

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With the age of timalloy`s jokes i think he is past signing on and getting a job.

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Thanks for the clarification Cumby Bhoy.

As I said to your Celtic-minded friend, I think any way of getting charity to needy causes is a good thing.

daviet

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On the note of the celtic shirt logo. ok its stated it was to raise awareness which is great but heres one that would be great i suffer from a mental illness and i feel it would be great for the 2 big ones to promote mental health week in oct, its the biggest killer in the uk.

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Yes you are all for charity. What about Help for Heroes or The Earl Haig Fund?
Charity begins at home.

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Why should i support the earl haig fund, it is named after a mass murderer, he was responsible for the loss of as many british troops lives as enemy forces during the first world war.

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12 Sep 2011 18:35:59
Rumour circulating that we owe Rapid Vienna 500,000 Euros that was due on 31 August.

It says if we don't pay up he will return to Vienna, as was stated in his contract.

Supposedly thats why he didn't play at the weekend because he showed no sign of injury during the Croatia game. Injured on the plane home?

Like I said just a rumour but makes you wonder with the mess we are currently in I wouldn't be surprised! {Ed014's Note - The money was paid. It was late but paid, the next instalment isn't due till next year.

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Vienna have confirmed they recieved payment today,and are happy its all sorted!!

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Rapid were paid their money n say he was injured but fit now

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Why wud he go bck? have you ever heard that happen before?

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12 Sep 2011 20:31:39
Rapid Vienna confirmed they received an overdue amount from Rangers for the transfer of Nikica Jelavic.

sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/269942-rapid-receive-late-payment-from-rangers-for-nikica-jelavic/ {Ed014's Note - I already said that.}

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I thought we had no money

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12 Sep 2011 17:15:12
Heard a rumour that graham spiers was asked to leave and banned from murray park today,can any1 confirm this? Its about time we put our foot down regarding that vile excuse for a football writer {Ed014's Note - Absolute nonsense.}

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Wish that was true hate that bas**rd

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Hope its true and a few more to follow suit

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I know, shame on the guy for highlighting the serious problems Rangers have with sectarianism. Tut tut.

Drew

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I know, shame on the guy for highlighting the serious problems Rangers have with sectarianism. Tut tut.

Drew

Drew I would just like to thank you for posting this, Celtic don't have a problem at Blankhead, they like to think that they are clean and the rest of society should hang their heads in shame DOH
The songs sung at Blankhead about Soldiers are Wee, I WEE i their tiny WEE mind, Go back to the losers page MUPPET.
WIZARD

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I m sorry did i say thetre wasnt problems at Celtic Park? No i didnt. Just taking issue with the comments made about a journalist whos only crime is highlighting a serious problem within ur club. The usual 'uz are worse than us' always has to come in2 it even when ur making a valid, constructive point.

Drew

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I m sorry did i say thetre wasnt problems at Celtic Park? No i didnt. Just taking issue with the comments made about a journalist whos only crime is highlighting a serious problem within ur club. The usual 'uz are worse than us' always has to come in2 it even when ur making a valid, constructive point.

Drew

Drew was dinner school you went to kid

Wizard

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TO THE GUY DREW,PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDNT THROW STONES.

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Speirs tells the truth & the truth hurts

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12 Sep 2011 17:13:34
Craig Whyte to make statement next week

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The staement is rangers are DOOOMED!!!mon the hoops !!!!

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You better hope not tommy cos you will go doon the tube as well

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Maybe he's gonna announce he intends to hand over another 15 million for transfers haha !!!!

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12 Sep 2011 15:58:11
Re the post about matias albelarias - the source was saturdays daily express.

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12 Sep 2011 15:17:36
..Word on the wire Mr Whyte is calling a press conference today for the printed press only...no idea whats afoot..

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Administration?

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It's something that's attached to the end of your leg.

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Hilarious...stop it..your killing me..dheclan...

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12 Sep 2011 15:02:17
[Hi Ed- I posted this as a reply to some dweeb- might be an idea to post on the main page too- delete this as appropriate]

Rangers are not being accused of not paying taxes per se. They are accused of discrepencies in their Employee Benefit Trust during the previous regime. HMRC have not managed to obtain sufficient information from the various clubs so is not in a position to decide whether payments and benefits have been taxed correctly.

Now pay attention- this is where the crux of the HMRC argument comes from. Any cash payments players received out of the EBT should have been net, i.e. after tax and NIC. It is normal for the Trustees to pay the net amount to the player with the PAYE and NIC being passed by the Trustees to the Club for onward payment to HMRC.

If players received an interest free loan from the EBT, the benefit of this should have been shown on the tax return and taxed accordingly.

If players received any other types of benefits from the EBT, such as medical insurance, these are also subject to income tax.

HMRC believe that EBTs are being used by many clubs either to delay tax or avoid it altogether. They have taken one stance that because payments are made by the club into an EBT for specific players, tax should be paid and NIC charged immediately - in the same way as for salary, signing on fees, loyalty payments and match bonuses.

In March 2009, HMRC tested their position by taking a company (Sempra Metals Limited) to the High Court. Their expectation was that the Court would rule that all allocations within an EBT to an individual or to a sub-trust would (in effect) amount to a payment of salary.

The Court, however, ruled against HMRC. This is very important to note. THE CASE WAS DISMISSED. HMRC appealed but then withdrew that appeal.

ALL the legal advice that RFC have had suggests that they will not lose this case, as they have no case to answer.

Daviet

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Finally a sensible post on this site....well I never!

CC

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Word on the wire Mr Whyte to do a press conference today...but only the printed press are to attend..no idea what its about but its about time he came out and said something............

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Is It sensible or what you want to hear? If HMRC have already pursued a case on similar grounds and lost, why would they waste their time on this case.

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If this is to be believed then it would show that Rangers were not avoiding paying tax but simply were trying to use a loop-hole. If this is the case and they are found guilty then surely they would not be punished with the maximum fine as they believed that they were doing no wrong. So I think the £49m is way off the mark.

One other point, Sempra Metals Ltd wasn't owned by Murray was it?

The Pilot!

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What are you talking about?

I have printed facts. You can look it up.

In fact, look it all up and then come back with an argument.

Otherwise, you're only hearing what YOU want to hear little man...

daviet

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I think this is wrong! the problem with the ebt was that contracted wages should not have been paid through it and they where!

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The whole point of an EBT is to avoid the payment of tax. It's quite simple, Rangers avoided the payment of tax and are being done for it.

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Hi, im the original "dweeb"poster. I have read your post carefully and can only say i agree with all you have said. My point was only confirming that the case against rangers is on rocky ground and even more so now that the HMRC are having trouble plugging the leaks!

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Unwashed p*****g their pants reading this in case it is true

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Cuppla things here

Firstly to Pilot- my response was to the post above yours. Ours mposts jmust have crossed during the vetting.

And Dweeb? Sorry. As I said elsewhere I'm trying to reintroduce the word. That and buffoon. Which, by the way, is a cracking word.

My post above was taken mainly from the PFA advice sight in response to letters they were receiving from HMRC. HMRC had written to the players concerned as the various clubs could not provide sufficient paperwork.

I agree with Pilot that Rangers have been found to be using a loophole and now HMRC are trying to close it. HMRC appears to hate these EBT's...

Full judgement on the case can be found here>> clients.squareeye.net/uploads/pump/documents/070798_sempra-080708.pdf

Don't be fooled by the rangerstaxcase website written by our Scottish/Irish Celtic-minded friend with the Irish sounding name...

daviet

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The deustche bank in london have been told to pay 92M on EBTS.......Thats a fact......AS Rangers offered 10M 2 years ago! FACT. So if mr murray thought he wouldnt get away with it , why would whyte ? Murrays not a clown .AS

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WTF are you on about, Murray didn't offer anything anytime anywhere to HMCR - you claim its a fact, then prove it or stop posting nonesense - Whyte Stated today, 12/09/11 .. He believes that Rangers have a solid case and cannot see us losing - we need to stop spouting p*sh on this site and let him get on with it.

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I think if you actually look into the history of this you are well wide of the mark. HMRC have won cases on this...although its better making something up that sounds good so we can all sleep better and have nice dreams about the days when we had nig name p[layers, that looking back WE COULD NOT AFFORD!

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Daviet, you should really stop talking s**t. You try and make out as if you have 'insider' knowledge, don't make me laugh, we never paid the PAYE due.......and now we wil pay!!

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How do English player get away with it ,set up holdng companies players draw cash in way of a loan and if any problems company goes bust

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12 Sep 2011 13:17:01
Rangers ‘to back court papers probe’

Rangers would support a police investigation into stolen court papers regarding its finances, it has emerged.

It is believed the Ibrox club would back a move following claims Edinburgh legal firm Balfour and Manson had reported the matter to police.

The claims come after court papers referring to the club’s finances were “illegally leaked” on the internet.

The documents, which relate to former chief executive Martin Bain’s unfair dismissal case against the Glasgow club, express concern Rangers would “go into insolvency” if it lost its battle with the taxman.

The leaked papers claim Mr Bain fears the Ibrox club could be sunk by a massive tax bill. He is suing the club for £1.4 million, including salary and bonuses.

Mr Bain quit after being suspended following owner Craig Whyte’s takeover.

Papers drawn up by Mr Bain’s lawyers reveal he fears Rangers’ tax bill could be £49m.

A 14-page document, which appeared on the internet on Saturday and details fears about Rangers’ finances, had been lodged with the Court of Session in Edinburgh.

The leaked document is a draft summons by counsel for Mr Bain.

Lothian and Borders Police were unable to confirm or deny whether they were dealing with a complaint.

The document also states the club’s board of directors tried to “ring-fence” cash from season ticket holders from sums that could be lost in tax liability.

However, Mr Bain’s lawyers allege that following the takeover: “Mr Whyte has not ring-fenced those monies collected from season ticket holders.”

It is also contended that Mr Whyte arranged for the club to “assign its season ticket income for the next four years to a London finance company in exchange for cash flow”.

The document accused the club of not having paid bills, although it was written before Rangers settled a £35,000 debt with lawyers Levy & McRae on Friday. evening times

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There is almost certainly a whispering media campaign here, being led by someone with illegally obtained information. This so called tax case is being brought to the publics attention all too easily, in my opinion. I also believe that the person / persons behind this hate campaign against Rangers fc, is playing a very dangerous game where courts are concerned. Even if they themselves have a background in law !! I believe the silence from Craig Whyte, Rangers fc and their legal representatives is not a veiled aproach, rather a dignified silence which comes from confidence in the clubs entire financial solvency, so, no need to go public to assure anyone of this. Someone somewhere is trying to bring our club down by scaremongering, and by means of a web of mhedia lies............... remember Craig Whytes statement recently, " STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT US, OR WE WILL START TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU " Some people need to be very careful what they wish for our there, legelly and also, with the future of a great club and Scottish football at stake. Rangers 'til I die, onward and upwards Bears.

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"This so called tax case is being brought to the publics attention all too easily"

I beg to differ people have been talking about the tax case for ages it is only now that it is get mass media publicity after HMRC ring fenced money.

As for Whyte and lies need I say anymore.

£25000000
Investigation into Bain as he had Whytes number from day 1.

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Here here onwards and upwards. mr bain you dont stand a chance of beating craig white in court my freind you slandered your boss and it cost you your job. unlucky. regardless of how mr white finances his work at glasgow rangers he is here to make this club better and see the club run properly. this tax case has nothing to do with him yet he seems to be taking the flack. the murray legasy lives on.

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Mr Bain and the old regime are the reason my club is in this mess in the first place.

However, I didn't half lap it up until the bank wanted its money back!

What REALLY irked me about Bain is when he wouldn't stand up to the bigots and idiots with their sectarian chants. I would have preferred him to come out and condemned them to Hell and told them not to come back, instead of pointing out the "good work" that RFC do, blah-de-blah.

These narrow-minded individuals needed to be told a long time ago that they were not welcome, and that shoudl have been Bain's job.

The opinions stated in his "leaked document" are just that- his OWN OPINIONS. it's only HIM and his solicitors using words like "insolvency", no-one else!

Also, let's not forget the hefty pay rises he enjoyed and entitlements through the Employee Benefit Trust!

Daviet

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Here here onward and upward could not agree more mate.Why is it that C Whyte is taken all the flack for years of Mr Murrays running of our club and Bain been in charge.Lots of deflections .The spotlight should be on Murray and Bain.

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I think its the uv spotlight thats been on bain the guy looks like he has been tangoed.

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Just thinking out loud here, could the leaked documents not have come from the whyte camp? Seems he doesn't have anything to lose from them becoming public knowledge and everything to gain- brings the case into public domain/ disrepute blah blah blah. Also what really is the big hardship/ problem with club going into administration? Point deduction would mean losing out on champions league, going into europa league but 80% of debt would be written off which would more than compensate for losing champions league money

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12 Sep 2011 13:09:25
Ally McCoist is given an Old Firm lift

Rangers look set to enjoy a triple Old Firm boost.

Ibrox boss Ally McCoist has revealed star striker Nikica Jelavic, Bosnian defender Sasa Papac and full-back Lee Wallace are all set to make it back for Sunday’s visit of Celtic. Evening times

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Now all we need is edu and mculloch to pick up knocks and we should be in good shape.

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12 Sep 2011 12:58:07
Wilson set for Leeds loan switch

Liverpool and Scotland defender Danny Wilson could be set to move to Leeds United on a season-long loan deal in a bid to kick-start his Anfield career. The former Rangers player has been utilised as an emergency left back by Kenny Dalglish this season but could be persuaded to look elsewhere for first team football. (The Sun)

Blue bells are blue

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Oops looks like someone has been a sillly boy danny. grass not so green?. oh well we man you could have been a legend as well.

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12 Sep 2011 12:38:07
Heard that a few clubs have been sniffing around Naismith, keeping a close eye. Due to his recent performances in International games, end of last season and current form.

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They wont need to sniff too hard he's stinking

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Current form .... are you mad..... he's been rotten

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12 Sep 2011 12:31:22
So, could one of you know all's remind me at which time today are we going into administration?

Oh dear, was it all made up again?

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I believe it will be around twenty past seven. ish.

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Another lesson on how the schooling system is letting down our Brothers in the East, Twenty past seven ish, Belter you just can't make it up son.

Wizard

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So is that 7:21 or 7:20 30 seconds

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12 Sep 2011 11:35:49
i know its a bit off the topic of buy outs etc but does any1 know what was on there top against motherwell on saturday? I only point this out because wen davie wier had his message to the royals on his top there was a media frenzy but nothing has been said about them! It never will unless we complain like they do.

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It was to promote a charity you pathetic idiot.Lets no look for problems where there isnt,grow up son.

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Who cares what was on their shirt and chances are when it was on them all it would not be some personal stunt. This is the train of thought I would like to see our support lose. It might take time but I for one am fed up with all this nonsense.

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Get a grip ya tube, who cares what they had on their top. Ur bein pathetic n immature. Get off ur fone n pay attention to the teacher wee man

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I've posted many times on this subject before, but it's worth mentioning again.

The "yous are worser than us (sic)" argument shows people up to be the ignorant buffoons they really are (I'm trying to get "buffoon" back into regular usage. And "dweeb".)

As a RANGERS FAN, I don't care what Celtic are doing. Never have and never will. I'm too busy supporting my team.

The "yous are worser than us (sic)" argument has prevailed for too long and it's taken us many decades to rid ourselves of this bigotted, sectarian nonsense which does not belong in the football ground. There's still a lot of work to be done (along with some of the Celtic-minded posters here (sickbhoy, et al)) but we're getting there.

Let's support OUR club the way it SHOULD be supported.

Over and out

Daviet

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I think it was some plastic bottles that were on there tops

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The UEFA rules state that any message printed on the tops cannot have any political message related..the message printed on the rangers shirts was classed as political since it was to do with the royal family..their is no such rule against having messages regarding charities..dont know what the message was on there shirt but if the other poster was right theyve done nothing wrong

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12 Sep 2011 09:55:17
Rangers have £7 m rated argentine a matias abelairas on trial.
26 year old is a free agent with 3 full caps, and was subject of a big-money bid by villarreal two seasons ago when playing for river plate, and has arrived at ibrox due to a big money deal to the german bundesliga not going through.
Mccoist said he is a tidy player with good control and left sided and he is still in the market if a suitable free agent comes up.

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Aye right, if he's currently rated at £7mil why would he be on trial anywhere? {Ed001's Note - because he had a bad injury.}

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Will rangers take him on for another club for january?

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Really hope we sign him

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Excuse me guys is this for real?

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More rubbish not reported anywhere other than in your head pal

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Try looking at official Gers website you muppet its on there

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Reported on stv web last week hes on a weeks trial check him out on u tube looks quality before he got his injury

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Wow the bears bn linked with a football player for a change. this guy looks like the real deal. just hope injury hasn't ruined him. i knw u can make any player look good on youtube but quick, skillful, strong, can take a player on, excellent set pieces, can finish and looks ok defensively as wl. really hope this1 works out. watp

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12 Sep 2011 09:45:33
See it's being reported in some papers that McLeish is plotting another move in January for Davis. The vultures are starting to circle already and it's an especially bitter pill to swallow when it's one of your own picking the bones. I know the games a business but Eck knows we're in a mess and will probably try and land our captain on the cheap. It's going to be a long January. Hopefully Whyte isn't tempted into selling our top stars. We need someone at the club to come out and shed some light on what's going on at the moment. We're expected to keep turning up and paying our hard earned money and most of us do. I think we're being taken for granted. We have been kept in the dark for too long now. It's time for some questions to be answered.

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Were in september alot of things change in football in 5 months-eck might no be in the job-davis could of agreed to move else where- rangers wont sell him on the cheap- stop worrying about whats not set in stone
steve the ger

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Maybe rangers want him of there hands come that time and we need rangers men to help us out eck maybe doing us a favour by that time like the man says wait and see

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I know peoples situations can change mate but our situation seems to be going from one extreme to another just now. I think January is going to be a difficult month for us and we're going to have to fight tooth and nail to hang onto guys like Davis, Jelavic, Naismith, McGregor etc... There is zero sentiment in the game nowadays (and that's fine) and other clubs will see the predicament we're in and use it as leverage to try and get our best players on the cheap. It's a frustrating time for everyone involved with the club just now. Hopefully we'll get a much needed lift on Sunday. We could all use it!

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Mcleish crossed the birmingham/villa divide, do u think he'll have any quams about buying players on the cheap from rangers. Rooney loves Everton etc

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What predicament we are in? we have not lost any tax case yet have we. everyone here seems to be looking to a bleak future. if rangers win this tax case we will be laughing. ok i know if the tax man wants his money he wil get it one way or another but the payments to these players were paid in to offshore accounts does hmrc have any claim to this so called un paid tax?. time will tell but im confident. as for 49 million aye good one mr bain.

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12 Sep 2011 09:42:45
Surely if we had our assets frozen etc, we wouldn't be allowed to even sign players out of contract, so why have we taken the Argentinian for a trial, things aren't quite as bad as are being made out to be imo.

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Only amount frozen is HMRC small bill.anything still there(not a lot)can still be used.

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This money frozen rubbish is doing my head in. are we talking about bain asking for money to be frozen?. bain will loose his case this guy is an idiot where would he be without rangers?. the guy has a damn cheek.

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